***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2013 Thread***

Ledbetterman10

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Don't shoot the messenger. Look at the by line

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/ ... um=twitter

I still think it was a good run and can live with a decade of sucking. They sucked for my entire childhood except for '93. I can easily alternate decades of sucking and decades of being good for the rest of my life. It's just baseball.

Cliffy6745

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Don't shoot the messenger. Look at the by line

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/ ... um=twitter

I still think it was a good run and can live with a decade of sucking. They sucked for my entire childhood except for '93. I can easily alternate decades of sucking and decades of being good for the rest of my life. It's just baseball.

It was, but it should have been better

And I can't say too much. Yanks are averaging only a little more per game, but it's certainly more worrisome for the Phillies who don't have as deep pockets in general.

Jearlpam0925

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Don't shoot the messenger. Look at the by line

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/ ... um=twitter

I still think it was a good run and can live with a decade of sucking. They sucked for my entire childhood except for '93. I can easily alternate decades of sucking and decades of being good for the rest of my life. It's just baseball.

It was, but it should have been better

And I can't say too much. Yanks are averaging only a little more per game, but it's certainly more worrisome for the Phillies who don't have as deep pockets in general.

As deep as pockets as who? The Yankees? Rangers? Red Sox? Angels? Dodgers?

I'm not too worried - they're top 5 in percentage of capacity, average the 7th highest/game, and through 14 games have drew over a half million fans. This is all the while not making the playoffs last year and being an absolutely shitty team. Sure, it's not 2010 anymore but to say this team doesn't have deep pockets, nor the payroll to sustain, is pure gibberish. If anything you're seeing teams like the Yankees and Red Sox fall more back to the pack and there be a more level playing field, instead of the threat of the Phils returning to the dreck of the 90's. Watch in 2015 when they land their TV deal...still gonna be silly money no matter how ya look at it.

I expect the attendance numbers to be where they are and I don't mind it. It's like people don't remember games at The Bank pre-2009 - this is what the crowds looked like.

If things fall apart this year, will it suck? Absolutely. But this whole going into the doldrums for years and years is absolutely ludicrous. This team has the ability to spend with anybody. Also, people are getting way too worked up about how barren the farm system is.

The Juggler

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

I still think it was a good run and can live with a decade of sucking. They sucked for my entire childhood except for '93. I can easily alternate decades of sucking and decades of being good for the rest of my life. It's just baseball.

It was, but it should have been better

And I can't say too much. Yanks are averaging only a little more per game, but it's certainly more worrisome for the Phillies who don't have as deep pockets in general.

As deep as pockets as who? The Yankees? Rangers? Red Sox? Angels? Dodgers?

I'm not too worried - they're top 5 in percentage of capacity, average the 7th highest/game, and through 14 games have drew over a half million fans. This is all the while not making the playoffs last year and being an absolutely shitty team. Sure, it's not 2010 anymore but to say this team doesn't have deep pockets, nor the payroll to sustain, is pure gibberish. If anything you're seeing teams like the Yankees and Red Sox fall more back to the pack and there be a more level playing field, instead of the threat of the Phils returning to the dreck of the 90's. Watch in 2015 when they land their TV deal...still gonna be silly money no matter how ya look at it.

I expect the attendance numbers to be where they are and I don't mind it. It's like people don't remember games at The Bank pre-2009 - this is what the crowds looked like.

If things fall apart this year, will it suck? Absolutely. But this whole going into the doldrums for years and years is absolutely ludicrous. This team has the ability to spend with anybody. Also, people are getting way too worked up about how barren the farm system is.

E.X.A.C.T.L.Y


we paid about 50 bucks per (before surcharges) to sit 10 rows behind the phils dugout directly next to the diamond club last week. that hasn't happened in years. love it. of course the bandwagoners were going to disappear at some point.

and to go along with all the stuff you mentioned, the weather has been freezing cold for a lot of their games too. they still are at 84% capacity, well ahead of cliff's team actually.

tons of money to play around with as early as next year too if need be. we're not headed back into 1994, people.


CHOOCH!

The Juggler

did anyone notice tom mccarthy's contract was extended for 5 years last year? i don't know how i missed that.

horrible news. just terrible.

Jearlpam0925

The Juggler wrote:

did anyone notice tom mccarthy's contract was extended for 5 years last year? i don't know how i missed that.

horrible news. just terrible.

Yeah, man. Awful.

SMACKADOOOOOOS. Fucking awful.

http://www.crossingbroad.com/2013/04/ev ... shell.html

http://tmacsucks.blogspot.com/

All the while Franzke and LA are being wasted on the radio.

And for Chooch, this is awesome - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vjhh1rEEeE

The Juggler

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

did anyone notice tom mccarthy's contract was extended for 5 years last year? i don't know how i missed that.

horrible news. just terrible.

Yeah, man. Awful.

SMACKADOOOOOOS. Fucking awful.

http://www.crossingbroad.com/2013/04/ev ... shell.html

http://tmacsucks.blogspot.com/

All the while Franzke and LA are being wasted on the radio.

yeah i heard the smackadoos thing live then saw the cb story.

smackadoos? what? he can't even do "douche bag schtick" correctly. no redeeming qualities what so ever in this guy.

Jearlpam0925

Speaking of which, TheFightins.com is back up and running, and this is funny... http://thefightins.com/me-watching-the-game/

Jearlpam0925

And, I gotta say, another stupid move by this GM. Kratz has an option left; Quintero is a MUCH better defensive catcher. Why they don't demote Kratz and keep Quintero on the roster makes no sense to me, especially when pitchers like Doc, Cliff, and Cole don't like pitching to Kratz. Stupid.

eeriepadave

sweeping The Mets is always good :thumbup:

jamminpearls

R6 starts producing the team starts winning.

JK_Livin

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Don't shoot the messenger. Look at the by line

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/ ... um=twitter

Understandable but I would bet that attendance is down on the east coast due to some weather conditions. Not winning and bad weather is a bad combination.

JK_Livin

How good does it feel to see Ryan mashing the ball again? I'll tell you, it's awesome. 6 great starts in a row from the rotation. Nobody is going to run away with it this year. Plenty of time to right the ship. Chooch will probably get a standing ovation for his 1st home game but he doesn't deserve it. He set the team back this year.

jamminpearls

Jesse Biddle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jearlpam0925

Speaking of...

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/patt ... g-war.html

Yeah, like I said.....silly money....

Cliffy6745

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

As deep as pockets as who? The Yankees? Rangers? Red Sox? Angels? Dodgers?

I'm not too worried - they're top 5 in percentage of capacity, average the 7th highest/game, and through 14 games have drew over a half million fans. This is all the while not making the playoffs last year and being an absolutely shitty team. Sure, it's not 2010 anymore but to say this team doesn't have deep pockets, nor the payroll to sustain, is pure gibberish. If anything you're seeing teams like the Yankees and Red Sox fall more back to the pack and there be a more level playing field, instead of the threat of the Phils returning to the dreck of the 90's. Watch in 2015 when they land their TV deal...still gonna be silly money no matter how ya look at it.

I expect the attendance numbers to be where they are and I don't mind it. It's like people don't remember games at The Bank pre-2009 - this is what the crowds looked like.

If things fall apart this year, will it suck? Absolutely. But this whole going into the doldrums for years and years is absolutely ludicrous. This team has the ability to spend with anybody. Also, people are getting way too worked up about how barren the farm system is.

I wasn't saying they don't have deep pockets. They obviously have dough and aren't all of a sudden going to be spending like the Rays but my point was that there are a few teams (Yanks, Dodgers, Boston) that just start with more money and rely a whole lot less on gates than the rest of baseball.

Jearlpam0925

You see that article right above your post? Oh, it's comin' boy...it's comin'....

Cliffy6745

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

You see that article right above your post? Oh, it's comin' boy...it's comin'....

I did. And it will be big, no doubt. These deals are going to be the norm now, until the bottom falls out...

Cliffy6745

Lorenzo's opened and has toppings. Weird.

Jearlpam0925

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

You see that article right above your post? Oh, it's comin' boy...it's comin'....

I did. And it will be big, no doubt. These deals are going to be the norm now, until the bottom falls out...

Which is definitely going to happen.