No ma'am, I won't register my guns

81

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

unsung wrote:

There used to be classes in schools on gun safety but that ended because liberals thought it was too dangerous. Can't have it both ways, can you?

honest question, do you think that a school teaching gun safety is a good idea?

what wrong with it.... :?:

my school had an out door resources class. basically about animals, the enviroment, etc...i took a couple of years of it. good stuff.

i took a trap and skeet shooting class in college. good times. once a week we hit the range

hedonist

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

unsung wrote:

There used to be classes in schools on gun safety but that ended because liberals thought it was too dangerous. Can't have it both ways, can you?

honest question, do you think that a school teaching gun safety is a good idea?

Partisanship shouldn't have a place in this issue - if it's relevant in that particular environment, I'd say it is a good idea...just as safe & responsible sex is taught in school.

It's about educating when and where there's a need.

(granted, I'd rather it come from the parents but then again...some parents are either ignorant themselves or just don't give a shit)

peacefrompaul

I took my gun safety course in a middle school

JimmyV

I took mine in the Boy Scouts.

gimmesometruth27

81 wrote:

what wrong with it.... :?:

my school had an out door resources class. basically about animals, the enviroment, etc...i took a couple of years of it. good stuff.

i took a trap and skeet shooting class in college. good times. once a week we hit the range

if i plan to shoot up my school and i need to learn how to be comfortable with a gun and use it proficiently, i am gonna take that class.

hedonist

JimmyV wrote:

I took mine in the Boy Scouts.

This sounds like a really bad euphemism.

(sorry; carry on )

gimmesometruth27

hedonist wrote:

Partisanship shouldn't have a place in this issue - if it's relevant in that particular environment, I'd say it is a good idea...just as safe & responsible sex is taught in school.

It's about educating when and where there's a need.

(granted, I'd rather it come from the parents but then again...some parents are either ignorant themselves or just don't give a shit)

partisanship should not have a place in the issue. but it does. one side wants to try to prevent mass shootings in the future. the american people want it. in every poll the vast majority of americans want background checks, magazine capacity limits, and a curb in assauly weapons sales. 90% of gun owners want mandatory background checks. and the other side refuses to budge on anything relating to those things. they are opposing the will of the majority of americans. no wonder we are pissed off.

JimmyV

hedonist wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

I took mine in the Boy Scouts.

This sounds like a really bad euphemism.

(sorry; carry on )

Kinda does, yes.

81

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

81 wrote:

what wrong with it.... :?:

my school had an out door resources class. basically about animals, the enviroment, etc...i took a couple of years of it. good stuff.

i took a trap and skeet shooting class in college. good times. once a week we hit the range

if i plan to shoot up my school and i need to learn how to be comfortable with a gun and use it proficiently, i am gonna take that class.

yup, that's what it was all about....how to effectively rampage. :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp:

peacefrompaul

JimmyV wrote:

I took mine in the Boy Scouts.

Nice

gimmesometruth27

81 wrote:

yup, that's what it was all about....how to effectively rampage. :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp:

are you saying that that would never happen?

unsung

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

unsung wrote:

There used to be classes in schools on gun safety but that ended because liberals thought it was too dangerous. Can't have it both ways, can you?

honest question, do you think that a school teaching gun safety is a good idea?

How many mass school shootings (other than those that the government did) happened when these classes existed in the 50's, 60's and 70's?

Classes teach kids to respect a firearm and instruct them on its use.

on edit: I'm guessing mass shootings were down in general. I'm guessing gun crime was down in general.

JimmyV

unsung wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

unsung wrote:

There used to be classes in schools on gun safety but that ended because liberals thought it was too dangerous. Can't have it both ways, can you?

honest question, do you think that a school teaching gun safety is a good idea?

How many mass school shootings (other than those that the government did) happened when these classes existed in the 50's, 60's and 70's?

Classes teach kids to respect a firearm and instruct them on its use.

on edit: I'm guessing mass shootings were down in general. I'm guessing gun crime was down in general.

I would also be curious to know how common it was to have assault weapons easily accessible in the home during the 50's, 60's and 70's. Guessing it was much less common than today. Think that might have played a role too?

PJ_Soul

hedonist wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

unsung wrote:

There used to be classes in schools on gun safety but that ended because liberals thought it was too dangerous. Can't have it both ways, can you?

honest question, do you think that a school teaching gun safety is a good idea?

Partisanship shouldn't have a place in this issue - if it's relevant in that particular environment, I'd say it is a good idea...just as safe & responsible sex is taught in school.

It's about educating when and where there's a need.

(granted, I'd rather it come from the parents but then again...some parents are either ignorant themselves or just don't give a shit)

There is no way in hell that I'd let my kid be around a bunch of idiot teenagers at school playing with guns. This idea is crazy. There should be NO guns allowed on school property, and there should be no field trips to places filled with guns. It should a legal requirement for anyone buying a gun to have taken gun safety training - training that they have to seek out and pay for themselves.

hedonist

PJ_Soul wrote:

hedonist wrote:

Partisanship shouldn't have a place in this issue - if it's relevant in that particular environment, I'd say it is a good idea...just as safe & responsible sex is taught in school.

It's about educating when and where there's a need.

(granted, I'd rather it come from the parents but then again...some parents are either ignorant themselves or just don't give a shit)

There is no way in hell that I'd let my kid be around a bunch of idiot teenagers at school playing with guns. This idea is crazy. There should be NO guns allowed on school property, and there should be no field trips to places filled with guns. It should a legal requirement for anyone buying a gun to have taken gun safety training - training that they have to seek out and pay for themselves.

Maybe I'm mistaken - I assumed that one can learn about gun safety without the actual weapon. They don't have kids applying condoms to actual penises in health/sex ed class, do they? :P

PJ_Soul

hedonist wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

hedonist wrote:

Partisanship shouldn't have a place in this issue - if it's relevant in that particular environment, I'd say it is a good idea...just as safe & responsible sex is taught in school.

It's about educating when and where there's a need.

(granted, I'd rather it come from the parents but then again...some parents are either ignorant themselves or just don't give a shit)

There is no way in hell that I'd let my kid be around a bunch of idiot teenagers at school playing with guns. This idea is crazy. There should be NO guns allowed on school property, and there should be no field trips to places filled with guns. It should a legal requirement for anyone buying a gun to have taken gun safety training - training that they have to seek out and pay for themselves.

Maybe I'm mistaken - I assumed that one can learn about gun safety without the actual weapon. They don't have kids applying condoms to actual penises in health/sex ed class, do they? :P

Oh, I see. I just assumed it would involved handling a gun.
Well, where I live I would consider such classes a waste of valuable time, when my kid could be learning more useful shit, and wouldn't think it appropriate that they're even suggesting to students that they should even be thinking about handling a gun, but that's here. It wouldn't make sense here at all. I suppose if they live in places full of gun-totin' fanatics, where there is a big gun culture, that could be useful.

OnTheEdge

Was the 2nd amendment not written to protect the people from a government of tyranny? And even if it wasn't, how do we know we're not going to have to stand up against our government someday and fight for our rights? Maybe not in our lifetime but what about for future generations to come? Our kids, grandkids, or great grandkids. No one knows what the future holds. How do you think the people will stand up against tyranny with pistols and double barrel shotguns that have to be loaded every 2 shots? Meanwhile the government will be using all the weapons they said we weren't allowed to have.

PJ_Soul

OnTheEdge wrote:

Was the 2nd amendment not written to protect the people from a government of tyranny? And even if it wasn't, how do we know we're not going to have to stand up against our government someday and fight for our rights? Maybe not in our lifetime but what about for future generations to come? Our kids, grandkids, or great grandkids. No one knows what the future holds. How do you think the people will stand up against tyranny with pistols and double barrel shotguns that have to be loaded every 2 shots? Meanwhile the government will be using all the weapons they said we weren't allowed to have.

Okay, it doesn't matter if you have a machine gun or a pistol from 1895. You're not going to be able to do ANYTHING against the US military/government if they decide to smack down an uprising with force. The issue is completely moot, and the most ridiculous part of any gun freak's argument against gun control.

josevolution

OnTheEdge wrote:

Was the 2nd amendment not written to protect the people from a government of tyranny? And even if it wasn't, how do we know we're not going to have to stand up against our government someday and fight for our rights? Maybe not in our lifetime but what about for future generations to come? Our kids, grandkids, or great grandkids. No one knows what the future holds. How do you think the people will stand up against tyranny with pistols and double barrel shotguns that have to be loaded every 2 shots? Meanwhile the government will be using all the weapons they said we weren't allowed to have.

Oh ok that's why you wan't to have the R15's so you can have a shoot out against the troops that will be coming to invade your property ok that makes total sense, and offcourse that is what the the 2nd amendment was for ....

gimmesometruth27

PJ_Soul wrote:

OnTheEdge wrote:

Was the 2nd amendment not written to protect the people from a government of tyranny? And even if it wasn't, how do we know we're not going to have to stand up against our government someday and fight for our rights? Maybe not in our lifetime but what about for future generations to come? Our kids, grandkids, or great grandkids. No one knows what the future holds. How do you think the people will stand up against tyranny with pistols and double barrel shotguns that have to be loaded every 2 shots? Meanwhile the government will be using all the weapons they said we weren't allowed to have.

Okay, it doesn't matter if you have a machine gun or a pistol from 1895. You're not going to be able to do ANYTHING against the US military/government if they decide to smack down an uprising with force. The issue is completely moot, and the most ridiculous part of any gun freak's argument against gun control.

agreed.
if the government wants to get you bad enough, you will never have the firepower to stop it.

and ontheedge, one man's sensible government is another man's tyranny. depends on the individual perspective... people in the south call lincoln a tyrant, people in the north call him a saint.