lol, Even I know not to go to Fox news as a reliable source!!!!! I was reading a hunting forum the other day and a guide from CO said that he had about 60 cancelations in the past 3 weeks. I can't remember what town he was from, but it was one of the smaller ones that depend on hunters to provide revenue. I'll try to dig it up for you.
People who want to ban all guns can't show themselves, that would be jumping the gun
but it is so very obvious when you run into the dictator mentality...
harsh, arbitrary, oppressive, of course I'm not taking about anyone here.
I still fail to understand how it is a public safety issue and not a political one? There's a whole other side of the fence that believes pushing these laws is going to adversly effect public safety. I guess we'll see what happens...And "good for those politicians"? I didn't think you supported the ban of even the most basic hunting rifles/shotguns? I guess I was mistaken...
when I said "good for those politicians", I was being sarcastic.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Ok. But just for the record, I didn't call you a pussy. If you don't want a gun then don't have one. And that goes for every anti gun liberal out there. Why would I care? But on another note, I don't want them telling me I can't. As far as registering, I'm undecided I guess. Part of me says well maybe it might do some good if they got stolen. But a whole lot of me says I don't trust these government fucking crooks that are trying to control my life. You live in Canada......so you're used to it (little sarcastic joke)
If someone is anti gun that does not mean they are liberal. I have conservative friends who are pushing for some minor gun control and are not gun worshipers; they like guns, but not obsessed with them.
~Carter~
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
People who want to ban all guns can't show themselves, that would be jumping the gun
but it is so very obvious when you run into the dictator mentality...
harsh, arbitrary, oppressive, of course I'm not taking about anyone here.
Who do you know here wants to ban all guns. It will never happen in this country even if BOTH sides pros and cons wants to do so. I don't even want to ban assault weapons or ban smaller magazines why because it will NEVER. Come to be in this country.
However, national background checks and registration I would like to see become law. Mandatory gun safety classes in shooting and proper storage of these weapons. Pass it and you have access to ALL the guns you want.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Who do you know here wants to ban all guns. It will never happen in this country even if BOTH sides pros and cons wants to do so. I don't even want to ban assault weapons or ban smaller magazines why because it will NEVER. Come to be in this country.
However, national background checks and registration I would like to see become law. Mandatory gun safety classes in shooting and proper storage of these weapons. Pass it and you have access to ALL the guns you want.
Peace
I pretty much agree with you. I will add though I think a test similar to getting a drivers license should be taken before getting a gun. The test should cover safety of guns in the houses, around kids, mentally ill family members or friends, etc.
~Carter~
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
Who do you know here wants to ban all guns. It will never happen in this country even if BOTH sides pros and cons wants to do so. I don't even want to ban assault weapons or ban smaller magazines why because it will NEVER. Come to be in this country.
However, national background checks and registration I would like to see become law. Mandatory gun safety classes in shooting and proper storage of these weapons. Pass it and you have access to ALL the guns you want.
Peace
I pretty much agree with you. I will add though I think a test similar to getting a drivers license should be taken before getting a gun. The test should cover safety of guns in the houses, around kids, mentally ill family members or friends, etc.
I agree especially your last sentence. If And I say IF I lived alone no wife, gf or children I may want to keep a rifle in the house. My trouble is with others getting their hands on weapons they don't know how to use it.
In the future I hope to get a 22 small bore rifle for target shooting and keep it at the gun club.
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
sorry I mistake it was someone else who was accusing the left of scare tactics. secondly, can you show any links that prove your point about what you just stated.
There's several companies out there. There's a whole list of manufacturers that are moving from New York, Colorado, and Connecticut...but if you're really interested, you can google "gun manufacurers leaving" and find plenty results. If you google "hunters boycott Colorado", there's plenty of articles there too. It's a big deal. I don't think a lot of people realized the economic impact of pushing this legislation. Some of the laws are so loosly written that hunters are affraid of getting arrested becuase their guns can technically "accept high capacity magazines"...even if it might take a lot of modification to the firearm.
well here is one article that i found from foxnews.
it actually looks like it not as big of a problem as you state.
lol, Even I know not to go to Fox news as a reliable source!!!!! I was reading a hunting forum the other day and a guide from CO said that he had about 60 cancelations in the past 3 weeks. I can't remember what town he was from, but it was one of the smaller ones that depend on hunters to provide revenue. I'll try to dig it up for you.[/quote]
actually the reason I did pick the fox one was due to the fact that they tend to be more right wing and tend to show "facts" that tend to be more right wing. also, I don't know if I would trust a hunting forum as they may have a bias also since you know they are a hunting forum but I will welcome the link to that story.
People who want to ban all guns can't show themselves, that would be jumping the gun
but it is so very obvious when you run into the dictator mentality...
harsh, arbitrary, oppressive, of course I'm not taking about anyone here.
Who do you know here wants to ban all guns. It will never happen in this country even if BOTH sides pros and cons wants to do so. I don't even want to ban assault weapons or ban smaller magazines why because it will NEVER. Come to be in this country.
However, national background checks and registration I would like to see become law. Mandatory gun safety classes in shooting and proper storage of these weapons. Pass it and you have access to ALL the guns you want.
Peace
There used to be classes in schools on gun safety but that ended because liberals thought it was too dangerous. Can't have it both ways, can you?
There used to be classes in schools on gun safety but that ended because liberals thought it was too dangerous. Can't have it both ways, can you?
honest question, do you think that a school teaching gun safety is a good idea?
Partisanship shouldn't have a place in this issue - if it's relevant in that particular environment, I'd say it is a good idea...just as safe & responsible sex is taught in school.
It's about educating when and where there's a need.
(granted, I'd rather it come from the parents but then again...some parents are either ignorant themselves or just don't give a shit)
Partisanship shouldn't have a place in this issue - if it's relevant in that particular environment, I'd say it is a good idea...just as safe & responsible sex is taught in school.
It's about educating when and where there's a need.
(granted, I'd rather it come from the parents but then again...some parents are either ignorant themselves or just don't give a shit)
partisanship should not have a place in the issue. but it does. one side wants to try to prevent mass shootings in the future. the american people want it. in every poll the vast majority of americans want background checks, magazine capacity limits, and a curb in assauly weapons sales. 90% of gun owners want mandatory background checks. and the other side refuses to budge on anything relating to those things. they are opposing the will of the majority of americans. no wonder we are pissed off.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
There used to be classes in schools on gun safety but that ended because liberals thought it was too dangerous. Can't have it both ways, can you?
honest question, do you think that a school teaching gun safety is a good idea?
How many mass school shootings (other than those that the government did) happened when these classes existed in the 50's, 60's and 70's?
Classes teach kids to respect a firearm and instruct them on its use.
on edit: I'm guessing mass shootings were down in general. I'm guessing gun crime was down in general.
I would also be curious to know how common it was to have assault weapons easily accessible in the home during the 50's, 60's and 70's. Guessing it was much less common than today. Think that might have played a role too?
There used to be classes in schools on gun safety but that ended because liberals thought it was too dangerous. Can't have it both ways, can you?
honest question, do you think that a school teaching gun safety is a good idea?
Partisanship shouldn't have a place in this issue - if it's relevant in that particular environment, I'd say it is a good idea...just as safe & responsible sex is taught in school.
It's about educating when and where there's a need.
(granted, I'd rather it come from the parents but then again...some parents are either ignorant themselves or just don't give a shit)
There is no way in hell that I'd let my kid be around a bunch of idiot teenagers at school playing with guns. This idea is crazy. There should be NO guns allowed on school property, and there should be no field trips to places filled with guns. It should a legal requirement for anyone buying a gun to have taken gun safety training - training that they have to seek out and pay for themselves.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Partisanship shouldn't have a place in this issue - if it's relevant in that particular environment, I'd say it is a good idea...just as safe & responsible sex is taught in school.
It's about educating when and where there's a need.
(granted, I'd rather it come from the parents but then again...some parents are either ignorant themselves or just don't give a shit)
There is no way in hell that I'd let my kid be around a bunch of idiot teenagers at school playing with guns. This idea is crazy. There should be NO guns allowed on school property, and there should be no field trips to places filled with guns. It should a legal requirement for anyone buying a gun to have taken gun safety training - training that they have to seek out and pay for themselves.
Maybe I'm mistaken - I assumed that one can learn about gun safety without the actual weapon. They don't have kids applying condoms to actual penises in health/sex ed class, do they? :P
Partisanship shouldn't have a place in this issue - if it's relevant in that particular environment, I'd say it is a good idea...just as safe & responsible sex is taught in school.
It's about educating when and where there's a need.
(granted, I'd rather it come from the parents but then again...some parents are either ignorant themselves or just don't give a shit)
There is no way in hell that I'd let my kid be around a bunch of idiot teenagers at school playing with guns. This idea is crazy. There should be NO guns allowed on school property, and there should be no field trips to places filled with guns. It should a legal requirement for anyone buying a gun to have taken gun safety training - training that they have to seek out and pay for themselves.
Maybe I'm mistaken - I assumed that one can learn about gun safety without the actual weapon. They don't have kids applying condoms to actual penises in health/sex ed class, do they? :P
Oh, I see. I just assumed it would involved handling a gun.
Well, where I live I would consider such classes a waste of valuable time, when my kid could be learning more useful shit, and wouldn't think it appropriate that they're even suggesting to students that they should even be thinking about handling a gun, but that's here. It wouldn't make sense here at all. I suppose if they live in places full of gun-totin' fanatics, where there is a big gun culture, that could be useful.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Was the 2nd amendment not written to protect the people from a government of tyranny? And even if it wasn't, how do we know we're not going to have to stand up against our government someday and fight for our rights? Maybe not in our lifetime but what about for future generations to come? Our kids, grandkids, or great grandkids. No one knows what the future holds. How do you think the people will stand up against tyranny with pistols and double barrel shotguns that have to be loaded every 2 shots? Meanwhile the government will be using all the weapons they said we weren't allowed to have.
Was the 2nd amendment not written to protect the people from a government of tyranny? And even if it wasn't, how do we know we're not going to have to stand up against our government someday and fight for our rights? Maybe not in our lifetime but what about for future generations to come? Our kids, grandkids, or great grandkids. No one knows what the future holds. How do you think the people will stand up against tyranny with pistols and double barrel shotguns that have to be loaded every 2 shots? Meanwhile the government will be using all the weapons they said we weren't allowed to have.
Okay, it doesn't matter if you have a machine gun or a pistol from 1895. You're not going to be able to do ANYTHING against the US military/government if they decide to smack down an uprising with force. The issue is completely moot, and the most ridiculous part of any gun freak's argument against gun control.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Was the 2nd amendment not written to protect the people from a government of tyranny? And even if it wasn't, how do we know we're not going to have to stand up against our government someday and fight for our rights? Maybe not in our lifetime but what about for future generations to come? Our kids, grandkids, or great grandkids. No one knows what the future holds. How do you think the people will stand up against tyranny with pistols and double barrel shotguns that have to be loaded every 2 shots? Meanwhile the government will be using all the weapons they said we weren't allowed to have.
Oh ok that's why you wan't to have the R15's so you can have a shoot out against the troops that will be coming to invade your property ok that makes total sense, and offcourse that is what the the 2nd amendment was for ....
Was the 2nd amendment not written to protect the people from a government of tyranny? And even if it wasn't, how do we know we're not going to have to stand up against our government someday and fight for our rights? Maybe not in our lifetime but what about for future generations to come? Our kids, grandkids, or great grandkids. No one knows what the future holds. How do you think the people will stand up against tyranny with pistols and double barrel shotguns that have to be loaded every 2 shots? Meanwhile the government will be using all the weapons they said we weren't allowed to have.
Okay, it doesn't matter if you have a machine gun or a pistol from 1895. You're not going to be able to do ANYTHING against the US military/government if they decide to smack down an uprising with force. The issue is completely moot, and the most ridiculous part of any gun freak's argument against gun control.
agreed.
if the government wants to get you bad enough, you will never have the firepower to stop it.
and ontheedge, one man's sensible government is another man's tyranny. depends on the individual perspective... people in the south call lincoln a tyrant, people in the north call him a saint.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Oh. The old hunting forum and some town.
Geez man. And you are ripping fox news?
but it is so very obvious when you run into the dictator mentality...
harsh, arbitrary, oppressive, of course I'm not taking about anyone here.
when I said "good for those politicians", I was being sarcastic.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
If someone is anti gun that does not mean they are liberal. I have conservative friends who are pushing for some minor gun control and are not gun worshipers; they like guns, but not obsessed with them.
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
Who do you know here wants to ban all guns. It will never happen in this country even if BOTH sides pros and cons wants to do so. I don't even want to ban assault weapons or ban smaller magazines why because it will NEVER. Come to be in this country.
However, national background checks and registration I would like to see become law. Mandatory gun safety classes in shooting and proper storage of these weapons. Pass it and you have access to ALL the guns you want.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I pretty much agree with you. I will add though I think a test similar to getting a drivers license should be taken before getting a gun. The test should cover safety of guns in the houses, around kids, mentally ill family members or friends, etc.
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
I agree especially your last sentence. If And I say IF I lived alone no wife, gf or children I may want to keep a rifle in the house. My trouble is with others getting their hands on weapons they don't know how to use it.
In the future I hope to get a 22 small bore rifle for target shooting and keep it at the gun club.
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
actually the reason I did pick the fox one was due to the fact that they tend to be more right wing and tend to show "facts" that tend to be more right wing. also, I don't know if I would trust a hunting forum as they may have a bias also since you know they are a hunting forum but I will welcome the link to that story.
There used to be classes in schools on gun safety but that ended because liberals thought it was too dangerous. Can't have it both ways, can you?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
what wrong with it.... :?:
my school had an out door resources class. basically about animals, the enviroment, etc...i took a couple of years of it. good stuff.
i took a trap and skeet shooting class in college. good times. once a week we hit the range
It's about educating when and where there's a need.
(granted, I'd rather it come from the parents but then again...some parents are either ignorant themselves or just don't give a shit)
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
(sorry; carry on
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Kinda does, yes.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
yup, that's what it was all about....how to effectively rampage. :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp:
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
How many mass school shootings (other than those that the government did) happened when these classes existed in the 50's, 60's and 70's?
Classes teach kids to respect a firearm and instruct them on its use.
on edit: I'm guessing mass shootings were down in general. I'm guessing gun crime was down in general.
I would also be curious to know how common it was to have assault weapons easily accessible in the home during the 50's, 60's and 70's. Guessing it was much less common than today. Think that might have played a role too?
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Well, where I live I would consider such classes a waste of valuable time, when my kid could be learning more useful shit, and wouldn't think it appropriate that they're even suggesting to students that they should even be thinking about handling a gun, but that's here. It wouldn't make sense here at all. I suppose if they live in places full of gun-totin' fanatics, where there is a big gun culture, that could be useful.
Oh ok that's why you wan't to have the R15's so you can have a shoot out against the troops that will be coming to invade your property ok that makes total sense, and offcourse that is what the the 2nd amendment was for ....
if the government wants to get you bad enough, you will never have the firepower to stop it.
and ontheedge, one man's sensible government is another man's tyranny. depends on the individual perspective... people in the south call lincoln a tyrant, people in the north call him a saint.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."