What is the purpose of registering guns again? What is thought to be accomplished here?
Is it so the government knows who has a gun and who doesn't? Can this information
be made public? How did that info get out there for the world to see?
We know the people who are living violent lives, criminals, won't register their guns.
I am more in favor of the local permit laws which already exist.
It is very useful information for police investigations. Also, I think it would be useful and would make me feel more comfortable to have it on record when people are collecting huge numbers of firearms, and what kinds, because just because someone is registering their gun, doesn't mean they are responsible, law abiding people (if they are, wonderful - nothing for them or anyone else to worry about). And for criminals who wouldn't register, many crimes are committed with stolen or sold guns. If they can find the original owner of the gun used in a crime, they may be able to connect the dots and find the criminal... or the ones who got the weapon to the criminal. I can think of many reasons why registering guns could come in handy, but no reasons as to why they shouldn't be registered.
exactly what I was thinking. Also, its possible the semi-responsible gun owner might become a little more responsible if there are implications surrounding criminals getting their hands on his gun.
What is the purpose of registering guns again? What is thought to be accomplished here?
Is it so the government knows who has a gun and who doesn't? Can this information
be made public? How did that info get out there for the world to see?
We know the people who are living violent lives, criminals, won't register their guns.
I am more in favor of the local permit laws which already exist.
It is very useful information for police investigations. Also, I think it would be useful and would make me feel more comfortable to have it on record when people are collecting huge numbers of firearms, and what kinds, because just because someone is registering their gun, doesn't mean they are responsible, law abiding people (if they are, wonderful - nothing for them or anyone else to worry about). And for criminals who wouldn't register, many crimes are committed with stolen or sold guns. If they can find the original owner of the gun used in a crime, they may be able to connect the dots and find the criminal... or the ones who got the weapon to the criminal. I can think of many reasons why registering guns could come in handy, but no reasons as to why they shouldn't be registered.
exactly what I was thinking. Also, its possible the semi-responsible gun owner might become a little more responsible if there are implications surrounding criminals getting their hands on his gun.
exactly. no harm, no foul. only good comes from it. except for all the nuts who think the government knowing who's stockpiling an arsenal is a bad thing.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
these are guns that were around at the drafting of the 2nd amendment. these are the "arms" they were referring to. how many massacres were committed by one person using these guns?
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Not so keen on registration.
Meanwhile, let’s ensure that every gun owner votes for gun rights this year
and the next. We are protecting our rights of the future. Gun bans and gun confiscation
is the real deal.
I can identify with your last words here and agree...
It is totally asinine and self-serving to suggest removing people's rights
most especially in other people's countries.
I also agree that the founding fathers would be slapping their heads
at those who think they would be slapping their heads for creating our constitution
with the forethought to last hundreds of years for the same reasons it was created so long ago.
I'm sure you'd be getting a great big wtf You are certainly cut from different cloth then they,
than Americans who value their rights.
Some of the assumptions and outrageous insults by people not within our borders
leaves me quite sure we are again at what you can not understand you fear.
You can not understand why we want, need and enjoy our gun rights
whether we choose to own a gun or not.
If you did you would not entertain taking them away. Same goes for our dogs :?
Both are here to stay.
any decent human being's caring nature doesn't end at an imaginary geographical line. we are all human. I care about all of them, which means dangerous American gun (non)policy is a concern to everyone, not just those within its borders.
AND I have family in the US.
you are calling those who wish to regulate guns fearful? Um, I think that's a direct contradiction of every reason you've ever given for wanting to have gun protection.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I can identify with your last words here and agree...
It is totally asinine and self-serving to suggest removing people's rights
most especially in other people's countries.
I also agree that the founding fathers would be slapping their heads
at those who think they would be slapping their heads for creating our constitution
with the forethought to last hundreds of years for the same reasons it was created so long ago.
I'm sure you'd be getting a great big wtf You are certainly cut from different cloth then they,
than Americans who value their rights.
Some of the assumptions and outrageous insults by people not within our borders
leaves me quite sure we are again at what you can not understand you fear.
You can not understand why we want, need and enjoy our gun rights
whether we choose to own a gun or not.
If you did you would not entertain taking them away. Same goes for our dogs :?
Both are here to stay.
any decent human being's caring nature doesn't end at an imaginary geographical line. we are all human. I care about all of them, which means dangerous American gun (non)policy is a concern to everyone, not just those within its borders.
AND I have family in the US.
you are calling those who wish to regulate guns fearful? Um, I think that's a direct contradiction of every reason you've ever given for wanting to have gun protection.
Yes, and also, It's also a concern for Canadians because our own laws and policies are influenced by US ones, and we share a massive, largely unprotected border that people can carry guns across. I think sometimes certain people try for the "you're not American so what you say is irrelevant" because sometimes Canadians are just making point that really can't be argued with.
And er, yeah... Pandora, all of your support for no regulation seems to be based namely on your fear. So definitely a strange comment for you to make.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I don't see how registering your guns goes against any constitutional right at all.
registering weapons would serve to make the intial owner liable for any acts commited with said weapon. As it should be, in my opinion.
Take reasonable steps to secure your weapons, if they get stolen, perhaps civially liable.
If you choose to give ready access to ANYONE other than yourself through lax securement and a crime is commited? In my opinion , you are as equally culpable as the person pulling the trigger and as such should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
That is why I believe there should be universal backround checks and registration of all firearms held in possession now and in the future.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I don't see how registering your guns goes against any constitutional right at all.
registering weapons would serve to make the intial owner liable for any acts commited with said weapon. As it should be, in my opinion.
Take reasonable steps to secure your weapons, if they get stolen, perhaps civially liable.
If you choose to give ready access to ANYONE other than yourself through lax securement and a crime is commited? In my opinion , you are as equally culpable as the person pulling the trigger and as such should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
That is why I believe there should be universal backround checks and registration of all firearms held in possession now and in the future.
Agreed. And none of those expectations violates anyone's rights under the constitution as far as I can tell.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I don't see how registering your guns goes against any constitutional right at all.
registering weapons would serve to make the intial owner liable for any acts commited with said weapon. As it should be, in my opinion.
Take reasonable steps to secure your weapons, if they get stolen, perhaps civially liable.
If you choose to give ready access to ANYONE other than yourself through lax securement and a crime is commited? In my opinion , you are as equally culpable as the person pulling the trigger and as such should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
That is why I believe there should be universal backround checks and registration of all firearms held in possession now and in the future.
come on now mickeyrat. we can't do any of this because doing so would just make too much sense.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
people are asking "why we don't catch these people before they can do these crazy acts??"
the only alternative i can think of is mandatory mental health screenings for every kid before entering high school to look for mental illness or the predisposing factors, but i know that the republicans and the nra will oppose that, so might as well not even mention it and just leave everything as is.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
people are asking "why we don't catch these people before they can do these crazy acts??"
the only alternative i can think of is mandatory mental health screenings for every kid before entering high school to look for mental illness or the predisposing factors, but i know that the republicans and the nra will oppose that, so might as well not even mention it and just leave everything as is.
The problems that doing this would solve are many, and not just as it relates to gun ownership. I think it's a great idea. It would probably advance the public perception around mental health by light years.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
people are asking "why we don't catch these people before they can do these crazy acts??"
the only alternative i can think of is mandatory mental health screenings for every kid before entering high school to look for mental illness or the predisposing factors, but i know that the republicans and the nra will oppose that, so might as well not even mention it and just leave everything as is.
The problems that doing this would solve are many, and not just as it relates to gun ownership. I think it's a great idea. It would probably advance the public perception around mental health by light years.
plus this gun thing is a societal problem, and society needs to come together to solve it. if we can not ban the guns, we need to screen the people.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
One more time... self reliance and preparedness is something you won't regret.
Don't be afraid to hold a gun and protect yourself, I understand...
then vote for others to have that same right to self reliance and preparedness.
And if you ever get a chance give a dog a bone make a friend.
kudos on the mental illness screenings but we all know there were warnings
and family members who tried to get this young man help... same age group same profile.
One more time... self reliance and preparedness is something you won't regret.
Don't be afraid to hold a gun and protect yourself, I understand...
then vote for others to have that same right to self reliance and preparedness.
And if you ever get a chance give a dog a bone make a friend.
kudos on the mental illness screenings but we all know there were warnings
and family members who tried to get this young man help... same age group same profile.
YOU understand: I AM self-reliant and prepared. WITHOUT a gun. Wtf are you talking about anyway? You don't even HAVE a gun... right?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
One more time... self reliance and preparedness is something you won't regret.
Don't be afraid to hold a gun and protect yourself, I understand...
then vote for others to have that same right to self reliance and preparedness.
And if you ever get a chance give a dog a bone make a friend.
kudos on the mental illness screenings but we all know there were warnings
and family members who tried to get this young man help... same age group same profile.
YOU understand: I AM self-reliant and prepared. WITHOUT a gun. Wtf are you talking about anyway? You don't even HAVE a gun... right?
One more time... self reliance and preparedness is something you won't regret.
Don't be afraid to hold a gun and protect yourself, I understand...
then vote for others to have that same right to self reliance and preparedness.
And if you ever get a chance give a dog a bone make a friend.
kudos on the mental illness screenings but we all know there were warnings
and family members who tried to get this young man help... same age group same profile.
YOU understand: I AM self-reliant and prepared. WITHOUT a gun. Wtf are you talking about anyway? You don't even HAVE a gun... right?
wrong
That's what I thought. Finally you admit it.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
as far as im concerned if you want to take advantage of the 2nd amendment then you should be responsible enough to register your weapons. whats the big deal anyway. you register your car and your dog cause youre a responsible car owner and responsible dog owner.. heck you even register as a parent when you register the birth of your child/ren... so whats the difference when it comes to guns???
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
as far as im concerned if you want to take advantage of the 2nd amendment then you should be responsible enough to register your weapons. whats the big deal anyway. you register your car and your dog cause youre a responsible car owner and responsible dog owner.. heck you even register as a parent when you register the birth of your child/ren... so whats the difference when it comes to guns???
Because people think the big bad government will come and take them away. :roll:
(just teasing, don't bite my head off. lol)
It all comes back to the Constitution.
~Carter~
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
What is the purpose of registering guns again? What is thought to be accomplished here?
Is it so the government knows who has a gun and who doesn't? Can this information
be made public? How did that info get out there for the world to see?
We know the people who are living violent lives, criminals, won't register their guns.
I am more in favor of the local permit laws which already exist.
It is very useful information for police investigations. Also, I think it would be useful and would make me feel more comfortable to have it on record when people are collecting huge numbers of firearms, and what kinds, because just because someone is registering their gun, doesn't mean they are responsible, law abiding people (if they are, wonderful - nothing for them or anyone else to worry about). And for criminals who wouldn't register, many crimes are committed with stolen or sold guns. If they can find the original owner of the gun used in a crime, they may be able to connect the dots and find the criminal... or the ones who got the weapon to the criminal. I can think of many reasons why registering guns could come in handy, but no reasons as to why they shouldn't be registered.
Nice post and I agree....we have to register a car to show to whom it belongs to right. So why can't the same be done with guns and what difference does it make if registration for guns is across the country instead of on the local. With a national registration possibly, possibly gun owners will be even more responsible and it WON'T take away anyone's guns....you can STILL buy ALL the guns you want just register them.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
One more time... self reliance and preparedness is something you won't regret.
Don't be afraid to hold a gun and protect yourself, I understand...
then vote for others to have that same right to self reliance and preparedness.
And if you ever get a chance give a dog a bone make a friend.
kudos on the mental illness screenings but we all know there were warnings
and family members who tried to get this young man help... same age group same profile.
One more time: having a loaded weapon is not being self-reliant. that's being weapon-reliant. I don't need a gun. Never have, never will. Nor am I afraid of one. to equate not owning a gun to being a weak or scared person is the single most preposterous thing I think you've said on this forum.
or maybe I just have a short memory. you've gone from people needing to keep their rights to bear arms to being weak for NOT exercising that right. do you really believe this shit?
take a poll of people who have bought guns after being victimized by crime, and ask why they did it: it's for FEAR of being victimized again. FEAR.
FOR EVER ARMED & RECKLESS
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
One more time... self reliance and preparedness is something you won't regret.
Don't be afraid to hold a gun and protect yourself, I understand...
then vote for others to have that same right to self reliance and preparedness.
And if you ever get a chance give a dog a bone make a friend.
kudos on the mental illness screenings but we all know there were warnings
and family members who tried to get this young man help... same age group same profile.
One more time: having a loaded weapon is not being self-reliant. that's being weapon-reliant. I don't need a gun. Never have, never will. Nor am I afraid of one. to equate not owning a gun to being a weak or scared person is the single most preposterous thing I think you've said on this forum.
or maybe I just have a short memory. you've gone from people needing to keep their rights to bear arms to being weak for NOT exercising that right. do you really believe this shit?
take a poll of people who have bought guns after being victimized by crime, and ask why they did it: it's for FEAR of being victimized again. FEAR.
FOR EVER ARMED & RECKLESS
I agree....it appears its saying those who don't have a loaded gun are pussies. I don't need a gun for protection do like I do and buy a 4 foot sword from Pakistan. I probably can handle knives, swords or a machete as well I can a rifle. No fear in living here, enjoy life.
“Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all.”
― Helen Keller
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Progressives :? more like pompous' expecting to remove the rights of others is just
an incredibly pompous view on life and other people.
Again what one can not understand they fear so they must try to make others
just like them. I'm pretty sure that won't be happening. Well not for some of us.
I respect our Constitution, our rights as many do. Our individuality,
our choices. I can choose to own a gun, be prepared in my life, be self reliant
while some will depend on others. It's all about choices. I also choose to own
a most lovely pit bull mix who would protect me at all costs. My beautiful big big love
like no other.
To quote a fine mind on this forum (Byrnzie): What a load of odd cobblers.
these are guns that were around at the drafting of the 2nd amendment. these are the "arms" they were referring to. how many massacres were committed by one person using these guns?
anyone care to address my question?
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
One more time... self reliance and preparedness is something you won't regret.
Don't be afraid to hold a gun and protect yourself, I understand...
then vote for others to have that same right to self reliance and preparedness.
And if you ever get a chance give a dog a bone make a friend.
kudos on the mental illness screenings but we all know there were warnings
and family members who tried to get this young man help... same age group same profile.
One more time: having a loaded weapon is not being self-reliant. that's being weapon-reliant. I don't need a gun. Never have, never will. Nor am I afraid of one. to equate not owning a gun to being a weak or scared person is the single most preposterous thing I think you've said on this forum.
or maybe I just have a short memory. you've gone from people needing to keep their rights to bear arms to being weak for NOT exercising that right. do you really believe this shit?
take a poll of people who have bought guns after being victimized by crime, and ask why they did it: it's for FEAR of being victimized again. FEAR.
FOR EVER ARMED & RECKLESS
You don't need a gun. never have, never will.
So must everyone be like you? I enjoy guns and I enjoy collecting them, and I enjoy knowing that if anyone breaks into my home to cause us any harm I will be able to protect my family. Maybe things like that don't happen in your country but here we have thousands of stories of people protecting their families because they had a gun. But of course, you don't hear those stories on the news.
these are guns that were around at the drafting of the 2nd amendment. these are the "arms" they were referring to. how many massacres were committed by one person using these guns?
A Texas burglary suspect dialed 911 early Tuesday morning to report that an armed homeowner was threatening to shoot him, MyFoxDFW.com reported.
James Gerow, the homeowner, told the station that he awoke and discovered a man wearing a dark hoodie inside his Springtown, Texas home. Springtown is a small city Northwest of Fort Worth.
Gerow grabbed his gun and followed the man out to a truck in his driveway.
With gun in hand, Gerow convinced the man to drop his keys. He told his wife to call 911 and waited for deputies to arrive.
On January 19th, an elderly homeowner in MO was forced to defend himself when a 30 year old suspect broke into his home and assaulted him.
The homeowner fired a shot at the intruder, striking him in the arm.
The suspect then fled the scene, but was captured by police after a brief manhunt.
The homeowner was taken to the hospital for treatment of the injuries he sustained in the assault. The homeowner had to be airlifted to a second hospital for head injuries.
The suspect is charged with 1st degree assault and 1st degree burglary.
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exactly what I was thinking. Also, its possible the semi-responsible gun owner might become a little more responsible if there are implications surrounding criminals getting their hands on his gun.
exactly. no harm, no foul. only good comes from it. except for all the nuts who think the government knowing who's stockpiling an arsenal is a bad thing.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Meanwhile, let’s ensure that every gun owner votes for gun rights this year
and the next. We are protecting our rights of the future. Gun bans and gun confiscation
is the real deal.
any decent human being's caring nature doesn't end at an imaginary geographical line. we are all human. I care about all of them, which means dangerous American gun (non)policy is a concern to everyone, not just those within its borders.
AND I have family in the US.
you are calling those who wish to regulate guns fearful? Um, I think that's a direct contradiction of every reason you've ever given for wanting to have gun protection.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
And er, yeah... Pandora, all of your support for no regulation seems to be based namely on your fear. So definitely a strange comment for you to make.
Take reasonable steps to secure your weapons, if they get stolen, perhaps civially liable.
If you choose to give ready access to ANYONE other than yourself through lax securement and a crime is commited? In my opinion , you are as equally culpable as the person pulling the trigger and as such should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
That is why I believe there should be universal backround checks and registration of all firearms held in possession now and in the future.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
the only alternative i can think of is mandatory mental health screenings for every kid before entering high school to look for mental illness or the predisposing factors, but i know that the republicans and the nra will oppose that, so might as well not even mention it and just leave everything as is.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Don't be afraid to hold a gun and protect yourself, I understand...
then vote for others to have that same right to self reliance and preparedness.
And if you ever get a chance give a dog a bone
kudos on the mental illness screenings but we all know there were warnings
and family members who tried to get this young man help... same age group same profile.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Because people think the big bad government will come and take them away. :roll:
(just teasing, don't bite my head off. lol)
It all comes back to the Constitution.
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
Nice post and I agree....we have to register a car to show to whom it belongs to right. So why can't the same be done with guns and what difference does it make if registration for guns is across the country instead of on the local. With a national registration possibly, possibly gun owners will be even more responsible and it WON'T take away anyone's guns....you can STILL buy ALL the guns you want just register them.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
One more time: having a loaded weapon is not being self-reliant. that's being weapon-reliant. I don't need a gun. Never have, never will. Nor am I afraid of one. to equate not owning a gun to being a weak or scared person is the single most preposterous thing I think you've said on this forum.
or maybe I just have a short memory. you've gone from people needing to keep their rights to bear arms to being weak for NOT exercising that right. do you really believe this shit?
take a poll of people who have bought guns after being victimized by crime, and ask why they did it: it's for FEAR of being victimized again. FEAR.
FOR
EVER
ARMED &
RECKLESS
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I agree....it appears its saying those who don't have a loaded gun are pussies. I don't need a gun for protection do like I do and buy a 4 foot sword from Pakistan. I probably can handle knives, swords or a machete as well I can a rifle. No fear in living here, enjoy life.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
To quote a fine mind on this forum (Byrnzie): What a load of odd cobblers.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
You don't need a gun. never have, never will.
So must everyone be like you? I enjoy guns and I enjoy collecting them, and I enjoy knowing that if anyone breaks into my home to cause us any harm I will be able to protect my family. Maybe things like that don't happen in your country but here we have thousands of stories of people protecting their families because they had a gun. But of course, you don't hear those stories on the news.
I don't know but i'd love to have some of those.
James Gerow, the homeowner, told the station that he awoke and discovered a man wearing a dark hoodie inside his Springtown, Texas home. Springtown is a small city Northwest of Fort Worth.
Gerow grabbed his gun and followed the man out to a truck in his driveway.
With gun in hand, Gerow convinced the man to drop his keys. He told his wife to call 911 and waited for deputies to arrive.
The homeowner fired a shot at the intruder, striking him in the arm.
The suspect then fled the scene, but was captured by police after a brief manhunt.
The homeowner was taken to the hospital for treatment of the injuries he sustained in the assault. The homeowner had to be airlifted to a second hospital for head injuries.
The suspect is charged with 1st degree assault and 1st degree burglary.