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  • DE4173
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,578
    Evel K said:
    josevolution said:
    Yeah I’m anti ice so let me kill some immigrants makes zero sense! That’s like the shooter of the ear saying I hate Biden so let me shoot Trump 
    The shooter of the ear? That is your stance on the attempted assassination of a former President of the United States who was campaigning for a second term. Do you really have to question why Americans will hold tight to their guns when people downplay such a significant moment in our history. 
    why has trump not released the records relating to this? we knew more about the kirk shooter in 12 hours that we have ever known about this kid. why is that? why does trump not have a scar or a piece of his ear missing?

    why does trump not talk about it? he complains about EVERYTHING. he said more at the un about the escalator breaking down than he has said about his "shooter". that is the one topic trump will not talk about. why?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,977
    edited September 25
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Evel K said:
    josevolution said:
    Yeah I’m anti ice so let me kill some immigrants makes zero sense! That’s like the shooter of the ear saying I hate Biden so let me shoot Trump 
    The shooter of the ear? That is your stance on the attempted assassination of a former President of the United States who was campaigning for a second term. Do you really have to question why Americans will hold tight to their guns when people downplay such a significant moment in our history. 
    why has trump not released the records relating to this? we knew more about the kirk shooter in 12 hours that we have ever known about this kid. why is that? why does trump not have a scar or a piece of his ear missing?

    why does trump not talk about it? he complains about EVERYTHING. he said more at the un about the escalator breaking down than he has said about his "shooter". that is the one topic trump will not talk about. why?
    He played it up for a few weeks (by wearing that ridiculous bandage). As well as promoting that “fight” image and making a coin of it. That coin is still for sale.  What do you want to know? Do you think it was faked or staged. Or he wasn’t the shooter? Putting “shooter” in quotes looks like you think it wasn’t real?
    He absolutely was shot in the ear. It was also just a graze and he played it up with that giant bandage. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,578
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Evel K said:
    josevolution said:
    Yeah I’m anti ice so let me kill some immigrants makes zero sense! That’s like the shooter of the ear saying I hate Biden so let me shoot Trump 
    The shooter of the ear? That is your stance on the attempted assassination of a former President of the United States who was campaigning for a second term. Do you really have to question why Americans will hold tight to their guns when people downplay such a significant moment in our history. 
    why has trump not released the records relating to this? we knew more about the kirk shooter in 12 hours that we have ever known about this kid. why is that? why does trump not have a scar or a piece of his ear missing?

    why does trump not talk about it? he complains about EVERYTHING. he said more at the un about the escalator breaking down than he has said about his "shooter". that is the one topic trump will not talk about. why?
    He played it up for a few weeks (by wearing that ridiculous bandage). As well as promoting that “fight” image and making a coin of it. That coin is still for sale.  What do you want to know? Do you think it was faked or staged. Or he wasn’t the shooter? Putting “shooter” in quotes looks like you think it wasn’t real?
    He absolutely was shot in the ear. It was also just a graze and he played it up with that giant bandage. 
    i believe it was staged.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,977
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Evel K said:
    josevolution said:
    Yeah I’m anti ice so let me kill some immigrants makes zero sense! That’s like the shooter of the ear saying I hate Biden so let me shoot Trump 
    The shooter of the ear? That is your stance on the attempted assassination of a former President of the United States who was campaigning for a second term. Do you really have to question why Americans will hold tight to their guns when people downplay such a significant moment in our history. 
    why has trump not released the records relating to this? we knew more about the kirk shooter in 12 hours that we have ever known about this kid. why is that? why does trump not have a scar or a piece of his ear missing?

    why does trump not talk about it? he complains about EVERYTHING. he said more at the un about the escalator breaking down than he has said about his "shooter". that is the one topic trump will not talk about. why?
    He played it up for a few weeks (by wearing that ridiculous bandage). As well as promoting that “fight” image and making a coin of it. That coin is still for sale.  What do you want to know? Do you think it was faked or staged. Or he wasn’t the shooter? Putting “shooter” in quotes looks like you think it wasn’t real?
    He absolutely was shot in the ear. It was also just a graze and he played it up with that giant bandage. 
    i believe it was staged.
    So what about the guy that was killed? They just shot him to make it look real? An unwilling participant?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,578
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Evel K said:
    josevolution said:
    Yeah I’m anti ice so let me kill some immigrants makes zero sense! That’s like the shooter of the ear saying I hate Biden so let me shoot Trump 
    The shooter of the ear? That is your stance on the attempted assassination of a former President of the United States who was campaigning for a second term. Do you really have to question why Americans will hold tight to their guns when people downplay such a significant moment in our history. 
    why has trump not released the records relating to this? we knew more about the kirk shooter in 12 hours that we have ever known about this kid. why is that? why does trump not have a scar or a piece of his ear missing?

    why does trump not talk about it? he complains about EVERYTHING. he said more at the un about the escalator breaking down than he has said about his "shooter". that is the one topic trump will not talk about. why?
    He played it up for a few weeks (by wearing that ridiculous bandage). As well as promoting that “fight” image and making a coin of it. That coin is still for sale.  What do you want to know? Do you think it was faked or staged. Or he wasn’t the shooter? Putting “shooter” in quotes looks like you think it wasn’t real?
    He absolutely was shot in the ear. It was also just a graze and he played it up with that giant bandage. 
    i believe it was staged.
    So what about the guy that was killed? They just shot him to make it look real? An unwilling participant?
    you gotta break eggs to make an omelette, no?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,578
    the whole thing. the production of it. the secret service letting the person they are charged with protecting stand up and do the "fight fight fight" fist pumping when they did not know if there was still an active shooter, etc. it was all bullshit, all for show, and you fell for it. like millions of people.

    there is no scar on the ear. no evidence that it was hit with anything. it looks completely normal. ears are cartilage and they do not grow back. he did not even have a scab on it. ears take forever to heal because there is poor blood supply. he did not wear the dressing on there long enough for ear skin to repair itself. 

    why was info on the shooter buried? we still do not have all of the information.

    trump does not talk about it. and you know he complains about EVERYTHING. like an old man trying to send back soup at a restaurant.

    but this has all been discussed, so i am not going to yammer on about it. nothing will convince me it was real.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,578
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Evel K said:
    josevolution said:
    Yeah I’m anti ice so let me kill some immigrants makes zero sense! That’s like the shooter of the ear saying I hate Biden so let me shoot Trump 
    The shooter of the ear? That is your stance on the attempted assassination of a former President of the United States who was campaigning for a second term. Do you really have to question why Americans will hold tight to their guns when people downplay such a significant moment in our history. 
    why has trump not released the records relating to this? we knew more about the kirk shooter in 12 hours that we have ever known about this kid. why is that? why does trump not have a scar or a piece of his ear missing?

    why does trump not talk about it? he complains about EVERYTHING. he said more at the un about the escalator breaking down than he has said about his "shooter". that is the one topic trump will not talk about. why?
    He played it up for a few weeks (by wearing that ridiculous bandage). As well as promoting that “fight” image and making a coin of it. That coin is still for sale.  What do you want to know? Do you think it was faked or staged. Or he wasn’t the shooter? Putting “shooter” in quotes looks like you think it wasn’t real?
    He absolutely was shot in the ear. It was also just a graze and he played it up with that giant bandage. 
    i believe it was staged.
    So what about the guy that was killed? They just shot him to make it look real? An unwilling participant?
    you do not think that trump would think twice about having someone killed? look at him killing people on boats. he does not care. you don't think his advisors would think twice or object to him pulling something like that?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,816
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    This is what passes for gun control and upholding the 2A now? What a fucked up country, as dysfunctional as they come. Gut feelings and apparel choices. Good to know.

    This gun store prides itself on stopping guns from ending up in the wrong hands. Then a customer was named as a mass shooter

    Five federal agents entered the gun store on the busy highway in central Minnesota that Chris Mercadante manages and gave him a serial number.

    Unfamiliar, he flicked through the book that keeps a record of every gun that passes through Frontiersman Sports gun shop until he spotted it. It belonged to a revolver purchased by a customer just four days prior.

    That customer had opened fire on Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis just hours earlier, authorities say, firing through the windows at the pews, killing two children and wounding 18 other people.

    It’s important for Krause that his employees pick up on even the most subtle warning signs. They refuse to sell firearms to shoppers they suspect may be a danger to themselves or others, seem mentally unstable, are under the influence of drugs or alcohol or appear to be purchasing a gun for someone else, Krause said, adding sometimes they’ll turn away multiple people in one week.

    “We do not discriminate based on race, ethnicity, sex, age, sexual orientation, or appearance. We do discriminate based solely on behavior and actions,” Krause said.

    There is no mention of the revolver purchased at Frontiersman Sports in police search warrant documents related to the shooting investigation, which list a Magpul semi-automatic rifle, a Taurus semi-automatic pistol and a Mossberg pump-action shotgun among the evidence collected. When asked by CNN, police could not comment on whether a revolver was taken into evidence.

    Still, Frontiersman Sports’ youngest employee was the person who sold the suspect the gun, and Krause said the incident has affected him.

    “You always sit back and go, ‘Could I have done more?’ … ‘Did something stand out that I didn’t see?’” Mercadante said. “The (suspect) was smiling and joking and laughing. I mean, if that’s not evil, I don’t know what is.”

    Spotting red flags in shoppers

    While Minnesota state laws already prohibit the sale of guns to those with a criminal record or who have been adjudicated as mentally ill, among other restrictions, Krause says his store goes above and beyond to try to make sure their guns don’t end up with bad actors.

    The store has also taken additional measures after Charlie’s Kirk’s shooting on September 10, like being prepared to deny guns to people wearing the same distinctive American flag and eagle T-shirt that Kirk’s shooting suspect wore. Depending on the customer’s actions, they’ll also call the ATF or local police.

    When Mercadante has a gut feeling that something isn’t right, sometimes he’ll ask one of his staffers for a second opinion. Mercadante said upset shoppers have accused him of discrimination and threatened to sue him for refusing to sell, but that never changes his mind.

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  • Gern Blansten
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    I'm surprised the writing didn't say "I hate trump but he's very good looking"
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  • mace1229
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    edited September 25
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Evel K said:
    josevolution said:
    Yeah I’m anti ice so let me kill some immigrants makes zero sense! That’s like the shooter of the ear saying I hate Biden so let me shoot Trump 
    The shooter of the ear? That is your stance on the attempted assassination of a former President of the United States who was campaigning for a second term. Do you really have to question why Americans will hold tight to their guns when people downplay such a significant moment in our history. 
    why has trump not released the records relating to this? we knew more about the kirk shooter in 12 hours that we have ever known about this kid. why is that? why does trump not have a scar or a piece of his ear missing?

    why does trump not talk about it? he complains about EVERYTHING. he said more at the un about the escalator breaking down than he has said about his "shooter". that is the one topic trump will not talk about. why?
    He played it up for a few weeks (by wearing that ridiculous bandage). As well as promoting that “fight” image and making a coin of it. That coin is still for sale.  What do you want to know? Do you think it was faked or staged. Or he wasn’t the shooter? Putting “shooter” in quotes looks like you think it wasn’t real?
    He absolutely was shot in the ear. It was also just a graze and he played it up with that giant bandage. 
    i believe it was staged.
    So what about the guy that was killed? They just shot him to make it look real? An unwilling participant?
    you do not think that trump would think twice about having someone killed? look at him killing people on boats. he does not care. you don't think his advisors would think twice or object to him pulling something like that?
    It's not just his advisors. You would have to convince the SS team and local law enforcement. And find a kid willing to die for the ploy, or at least convince him it will be covered up and he'll live a happy life (which who would believe that?). Then you have to convince the head of Secret Service to defend the actions for several weeks before she finally resigns. All without word leaking out, without one person in the secret service or local law enforcement standing up and saying "nah, I'm not cool with this." And then have all the media in on it and not dig up any history on the shooter.
    And then actually pull it off. Have Trump duck and begin bleeding from the ear at the exact time the gun was fired. He looked genuinely shocked, like he thought he got stung by a bee. I've seen Home Alone 2, he's not that good of an actor. 

    Or, the simpler truth, that he was a deranged individual. Security was very poor that day. The secret service team had become complacent in their jobs and did a poor job that day and this deranged individual got lucky enough to be able to pull off a shot. He missed by a few mm and killed someone in the background. That to me seems much more plausible. He was a loner, so there isn't much to know about him. Didn't have friends or a social media profile. Was just a loner who thought he could make a difference or wanted his name to finally be known, who knowns what his motive was. 
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  • DE4173
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  • josevolution
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    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Evel K said:
    josevolution said:
    Yeah I’m anti ice so let me kill some immigrants makes zero sense! That’s like the shooter of the ear saying I hate Biden so let me shoot Trump 
    The shooter of the ear? That is your stance on the attempted assassination of a former President of the United States who was campaigning for a second term. Do you really have to question why Americans will hold tight to their guns when people downplay such a significant moment in our history. 
    why has trump not released the records relating to this? we knew more about the kirk shooter in 12 hours that we have ever known about this kid. why is that? why does trump not have a scar or a piece of his ear missing?

    why does trump not talk about it? he complains about EVERYTHING. he said more at the un about the escalator breaking down than he has said about his "shooter". that is the one topic trump will not talk about. why?
    He played it up for a few weeks (by wearing that ridiculous bandage). As well as promoting that “fight” image and making a coin of it. That coin is still for sale.  What do you want to know? Do you think it was faked or staged. Or he wasn’t the shooter? Putting “shooter” in quotes looks like you think it wasn’t real?
    He absolutely was shot in the ear. It was also just a graze and he played it up with that giant bandage. 
    i believe it was staged.
    So what about the guy that was killed? They just shot him to make it look real? An unwilling participant?
    you do not think that trump would think twice about having someone killed? look at him killing people on boats. he does not care. you don't think his advisors would think twice or object to him pulling something like that?
    It's not just his advisors. You would have to convince the SS team and local law enforcement. And find a kid willing to die for the ploy, or at least convince him it will be covered up and he'll live a happy life (which who would believe that?). Then you have to convince the head of Secret Service to defend the actions for several weeks before she finally resigns. All without word leaking out, without one person in the secret service or local law enforcement standing up and saying "nah, I'm not cool with this." And then have all the media in on it and not dig up any history on the shooter.
    And then actually pull it off. Have Trump duck and begin bleeding from the ear at the exact time the gun was fired. He looked genuinely shocked, like he thought he got stung by a bee. I've seen Home Alone 2, he's not that good of an actor. 

    Or, the simpler truth, that he was a deranged individual. Security was very poor that day. The secret service team had become complacent in their jobs and did a poor job that day and this deranged individual got lucky enough to be able to pull off a shot. He missed by a few mm and killed someone in the background. That to me seems much more plausible. He was a loner, so there isn't much to know about him. Didn't have friends or a social media profile. Was just a loner who thought he could make a difference or wanted his name to finally be known, who knowns what his motive was. 
    Not one medical report zero nada who was the attending MD? Go back and take a look at the detailed MD report for Regan getting shot! 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,578
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Evel K said:
    josevolution said:
    Yeah I’m anti ice so let me kill some immigrants makes zero sense! That’s like the shooter of the ear saying I hate Biden so let me shoot Trump 
    The shooter of the ear? That is your stance on the attempted assassination of a former President of the United States who was campaigning for a second term. Do you really have to question why Americans will hold tight to their guns when people downplay such a significant moment in our history. 
    why has trump not released the records relating to this? we knew more about the kirk shooter in 12 hours that we have ever known about this kid. why is that? why does trump not have a scar or a piece of his ear missing?

    why does trump not talk about it? he complains about EVERYTHING. he said more at the un about the escalator breaking down than he has said about his "shooter". that is the one topic trump will not talk about. why?
    He played it up for a few weeks (by wearing that ridiculous bandage). As well as promoting that “fight” image and making a coin of it. That coin is still for sale.  What do you want to know? Do you think it was faked or staged. Or he wasn’t the shooter? Putting “shooter” in quotes looks like you think it wasn’t real?
    He absolutely was shot in the ear. It was also just a graze and he played it up with that giant bandage. 
    i believe it was staged.
    So what about the guy that was killed? They just shot him to make it look real? An unwilling participant?
    you do not think that trump would think twice about having someone killed? look at him killing people on boats. he does not care. you don't think his advisors would think twice or object to him pulling something like that?
    It's not just his advisors. You would have to convince the SS team and local law enforcement. And find a kid willing to die for the ploy, or at least convince him it will be covered up and he'll live a happy life (which who would believe that?). Then you have to convince the head of Secret Service to defend the actions for several weeks before she finally resigns. All without word leaking out, without one person in the secret service or local law enforcement standing up and saying "nah, I'm not cool with this." And then have all the media in on it and not dig up any history on the shooter.
    And then actually pull it off. Have Trump duck and begin bleeding from the ear at the exact time the gun was fired. He looked genuinely shocked, like he thought he got stung by a bee. I've seen Home Alone 2, he's not that good of an actor. 

    Or, the simpler truth, that he was a deranged individual. Security was very poor that day. The secret service team had become complacent in their jobs and did a poor job that day and this deranged individual got lucky enough to be able to pull off a shot. He missed by a few mm and killed someone in the background. That to me seems much more plausible. He was a loner, so there isn't much to know about him. Didn't have friends or a social media profile. Was just a loner who thought he could make a difference or wanted his name to finally be known, who knowns what his motive was. 
    where is the evidence of injury on his ear? there isn't any. no scar. no deformity. physiologically, cartilage does not regenerate or re-grow. also, ears do not bleed that much because they are not very vascular. 

    if he were actually shot, we would never hear the end of it. ever. he complains about the smallest perceived slight. he is a coward. if he were actually shot he would never have gone in front of a large crowd again. 

    you can believe what you want, but i choose to believe my eyes. that was an elaborate scheme to increase sympathy before the convention. did you not see all those folks at the rnc wearing maxipads on their right ears?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,977
    josevolution said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Evel K said:
    josevolution said:
    Yeah I’m anti ice so let me kill some immigrants makes zero sense! That’s like the shooter of the ear saying I hate Biden so let me shoot Trump 
    The shooter of the ear? That is your stance on the attempted assassination of a former President of the United States who was campaigning for a second term. Do you really have to question why Americans will hold tight to their guns when people downplay such a significant moment in our history. 
    why has trump not released the records relating to this? we knew more about the kirk shooter in 12 hours that we have ever known about this kid. why is that? why does trump not have a scar or a piece of his ear missing?

    why does trump not talk about it? he complains about EVERYTHING. he said more at the un about the escalator breaking down than he has said about his "shooter". that is the one topic trump will not talk about. why?
    He played it up for a few weeks (by wearing that ridiculous bandage). As well as promoting that “fight” image and making a coin of it. That coin is still for sale.  What do you want to know? Do you think it was faked or staged. Or he wasn’t the shooter? Putting “shooter” in quotes looks like you think it wasn’t real?
    He absolutely was shot in the ear. It was also just a graze and he played it up with that giant bandage. 
    i believe it was staged.
    So what about the guy that was killed? They just shot him to make it look real? An unwilling participant?
    you do not think that trump would think twice about having someone killed? look at him killing people on boats. he does not care. you don't think his advisors would think twice or object to him pulling something like that?
    It's not just his advisors. You would have to convince the SS team and local law enforcement. And find a kid willing to die for the ploy, or at least convince him it will be covered up and he'll live a happy life (which who would believe that?). Then you have to convince the head of Secret Service to defend the actions for several weeks before she finally resigns. All without word leaking out, without one person in the secret service or local law enforcement standing up and saying "nah, I'm not cool with this." And then have all the media in on it and not dig up any history on the shooter.
    And then actually pull it off. Have Trump duck and begin bleeding from the ear at the exact time the gun was fired. He looked genuinely shocked, like he thought he got stung by a bee. I've seen Home Alone 2, he's not that good of an actor. 

    Or, the simpler truth, that he was a deranged individual. Security was very poor that day. The secret service team had become complacent in their jobs and did a poor job that day and this deranged individual got lucky enough to be able to pull off a shot. He missed by a few mm and killed someone in the background. That to me seems much more plausible. He was a loner, so there isn't much to know about him. Didn't have friends or a social media profile. Was just a loner who thought he could make a difference or wanted his name to finally be known, who knowns what his motive was. 
    Not one medical report zero nada who was the attending MD? Go back and take a look at the detailed MD report for Regan getting shot! 
    I don't think his ear was seriously injured. It was probably a graze that didn't even require stitches. I do believe he 100% played it up by wearing a comically oversized bandaged for 2 weeks when simple bandaid for a day or 2 was all he needed. 
    Which is why he hasn't released any medical records. 
  • gimmesometruth27
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    additionally, trump brags about everything. i won by a landslide, by the greatest margin ever. no he didn't. i now have the tallest building in manhattan. that was true, but no sane person would have said that on 9/11. we would hear about it all the time that he is here due to divine providence because god miraculously spared his life. we don't hear anything like this from him.

    what is the best way to cover something up?

    avoid releasing evidence, and stop talking about it completely and it will go away. this is textbook how to handle a big lie.
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Evel K said:
    josevolution said:
    Yeah I’m anti ice so let me kill some immigrants makes zero sense! That’s like the shooter of the ear saying I hate Biden so let me shoot Trump 
    The shooter of the ear? That is your stance on the attempted assassination of a former President of the United States who was campaigning for a second term. Do you really have to question why Americans will hold tight to their guns when people downplay such a significant moment in our history. 
    why has trump not released the records relating to this? we knew more about the kirk shooter in 12 hours that we have ever known about this kid. why is that? why does trump not have a scar or a piece of his ear missing?

    why does trump not talk about it? he complains about EVERYTHING. he said more at the un about the escalator breaking down than he has said about his "shooter". that is the one topic trump will not talk about. why?
    He played it up for a few weeks (by wearing that ridiculous bandage). As well as promoting that “fight” image and making a coin of it. That coin is still for sale.  What do you want to know? Do you think it was faked or staged. Or he wasn’t the shooter? Putting “shooter” in quotes looks like you think it wasn’t real?
    He absolutely was shot in the ear. It was also just a graze and he played it up with that giant bandage. 
    i believe it was staged.
    So what about the guy that was killed? They just shot him to make it look real? An unwilling participant?
    you do not think that trump would think twice about having someone killed? look at him killing people on boats. he does not care. you don't think his advisors would think twice or object to him pulling something like that?
    It's not just his advisors. You would have to convince the SS team and local law enforcement. And find a kid willing to die for the ploy, or at least convince him it will be covered up and he'll live a happy life (which who would believe that?). Then you have to convince the head of Secret Service to defend the actions for several weeks before she finally resigns. All without word leaking out, without one person in the secret service or local law enforcement standing up and saying "nah, I'm not cool with this." And then have all the media in on it and not dig up any history on the shooter.
    And then actually pull it off. Have Trump duck and begin bleeding from the ear at the exact time the gun was fired. He looked genuinely shocked, like he thought he got stung by a bee. I've seen Home Alone 2, he's not that good of an actor. 

    Or, the simpler truth, that he was a deranged individual. Security was very poor that day. The secret service team had become complacent in their jobs and did a poor job that day and this deranged individual got lucky enough to be able to pull off a shot. He missed by a few mm and killed someone in the background. That to me seems much more plausible. He was a loner, so there isn't much to know about him. Didn't have friends or a social media profile. Was just a loner who thought he could make a difference or wanted his name to finally be known, who knowns what his motive was. 
    where is the evidence of injury on his ear? there isn't any. no scar. no deformity. physiologically, cartilage does not regenerate or re-grow. also, ears do not bleed that much because they are not very vascular. 

    if he were actually shot, we would never hear the end of it. ever. he complains about the smallest perceived slight. he is a coward. if he were actually shot he would never have gone in front of a large crowd again. 

    you can believe what you want, but i choose to believe my eyes. that was an elaborate scheme to increase sympathy before the convention. did you not see all those folks at the rnc wearing maxipads on their right ears?
    The irony of that last statement is you have to believe beyond your eyes to accept a conspiracy theory and an elaborate scheme. You're going off your gut feeling to believe Trump orchestrated this, because there is no concrete evidence to support that.
  • mace1229
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
    additionally, trump brags about everything. i won by a landslide, by the greatest margin ever. no he didn't. i now have the tallest building in manhattan. that was true, but no sane person would have said that on 9/11. we would hear about it all the time that he is here due to divine providence because god miraculously spared his life. we don't hear anything like this from him.

    what is the best way to cover something up?

    avoid releasing evidence, and stop talking about it completely and it will go away. this is textbook how to handle a big lie.
    So why go through this elaborate setup just to let it fade away and not talk about it? The risk/reward ratio doesn't match up if the plan is to just let it fade away. 
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    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,565
    mace1229 said:
    josevolution said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Evel K said:
    josevolution said:
    Yeah I’m anti ice so let me kill some immigrants makes zero sense! That’s like the shooter of the ear saying I hate Biden so let me shoot Trump 
    The shooter of the ear? That is your stance on the attempted assassination of a former President of the United States who was campaigning for a second term. Do you really have to question why Americans will hold tight to their guns when people downplay such a significant moment in our history. 
    why has trump not released the records relating to this? we knew more about the kirk shooter in 12 hours that we have ever known about this kid. why is that? why does trump not have a scar or a piece of his ear missing?

    why does trump not talk about it? he complains about EVERYTHING. he said more at the un about the escalator breaking down than he has said about his "shooter". that is the one topic trump will not talk about. why?
    He played it up for a few weeks (by wearing that ridiculous bandage). As well as promoting that “fight” image and making a coin of it. That coin is still for sale.  What do you want to know? Do you think it was faked or staged. Or he wasn’t the shooter? Putting “shooter” in quotes looks like you think it wasn’t real?
    He absolutely was shot in the ear. It was also just a graze and he played it up with that giant bandage. 
    i believe it was staged.
    So what about the guy that was killed? They just shot him to make it look real? An unwilling participant?
    you do not think that trump would think twice about having someone killed? look at him killing people on boats. he does not care. you don't think his advisors would think twice or object to him pulling something like that?
    It's not just his advisors. You would have to convince the SS team and local law enforcement. And find a kid willing to die for the ploy, or at least convince him it will be covered up and he'll live a happy life (which who would believe that?). Then you have to convince the head of Secret Service to defend the actions for several weeks before she finally resigns. All without word leaking out, without one person in the secret service or local law enforcement standing up and saying "nah, I'm not cool with this." And then have all the media in on it and not dig up any history on the shooter.
    And then actually pull it off. Have Trump duck and begin bleeding from the ear at the exact time the gun was fired. He looked genuinely shocked, like he thought he got stung by a bee. I've seen Home Alone 2, he's not that good of an actor. 

    Or, the simpler truth, that he was a deranged individual. Security was very poor that day. The secret service team had become complacent in their jobs and did a poor job that day and this deranged individual got lucky enough to be able to pull off a shot. He missed by a few mm and killed someone in the background. That to me seems much more plausible. He was a loner, so there isn't much to know about him. Didn't have friends or a social media profile. Was just a loner who thought he could make a difference or wanted his name to finally be known, who knowns what his motive was. 
    Not one medical report zero nada who was the attending MD? Go back and take a look at the detailed MD report for Regan getting shot! 
    I don't think his ear was seriously injured. It was probably a graze that didn't even require stitches. I do believe he 100% played it up by wearing a comically oversized bandaged for 2 weeks when simple bandaid for a day or 2 was all he needed. 
    Which is why he hasn't released any medical records. 
    yeah you could tell that bandage wasn't put together by anyone with medical skill....looked like a maxi pad taped to his head
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  • mace1229
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    edited September 25
    For the inside job theories I have some serious holes. Until someone can answer these questions it just doesn't make sense.
    How did they get essentially the entire secret service team that day on board? If it was all part of the play to let the sniper take a shot to letting Trump stand and hold up his first, they'd all have to be in on it. 
    How did they get the former director Cheatle to help cover it up? She initially defended their actions that day.
    How did they get local law enforcement on board? They were made aware of someone on the roof and didn't prevent the shooting. I believe it was incompetence. But if this was a ploy, how'd they get them on board?
    How did they recruit the shooter? Did they approach him and convince him he'd be a hero, or they'd let him get by? Did he know it was a suicide mission?
    They managed all that without one person leaking it? Without one person saying they wouldn't take part it in? There's just too many moving parts for this to be a logical theory. 

    Straight up incompetence makes much more sense. 
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