NRA-the massacre wouldn't have happened if teachers had guns

unsung

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

No... stick around. I realize it's a very difficult argument to try and make on your part- in the face of such tragedy, overwhelming statistics, and logic- but keep trying.

yawn...I've got things to do.

Zoso

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

also, diane feinstein just said that on day one of the new congress they are introducing bills in the house and senate to ban all future imports, sales, purchases, and possessions of assault rifles and magazines/clips that hold more than 10 rounds.

now before you pro gun people explode on democrats and blame them for trying to do something to prevent these massacres in the future, maybe blame the countless murderers who have killed people with these guns for fucking it up for all of you.

I saw this.... great news.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

unsung wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

No... stick around. I realize it's a very difficult argument to try and make on your part- in the face of such tragedy, overwhelming statistics, and logic- but keep trying.

yawn...I've got things to do.

Like coloring?

gimmesometruth27

Zoso wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

also, diane feinstein just said that on day one of the new congress they are introducing bills in the house and senate to ban all future imports, sales, purchases, and possessions of assault rifles and magazines/clips that hold more than 10 rounds.

now before you pro gun people explode on democrats and blame them for trying to do something to prevent these massacres in the future, maybe blame the countless murderers who have killed people with these guns for fucking it up for all of you.

I saw this.... great news.

yeah i was pissed when lawn darts got banned for killing a few kids, and when slip n slides got banned because a few kids got paralyzed, but i got over it...

dimitrispearljam

unsung wrote:

redrock wrote:

unsung wrote:

My guns have never harmed anyone.

Neither had the guns legally owned by the mother of the shooter, until a couple of days ago.

He could have killed her with a pillow. I.

why u dont buy pillows then and you buy guns??
seems you can do the same things with those 2 "products"..

Zoso

one guy had a shoe bomb in an airport and what happened? 31 school shooting since 1999 and nothing

satansbed

unsung wrote:

redrock wrote:

unsung wrote:

My guns have never harmed anyone.

Neither had the guns legally owned by the mother of the shooter, until a couple of days ago.

He could have killed her with a pillow. I'm done going round and round with you guys. All you want to do is punish law abiding people instead of focusing on why these cowards do what they do.

Later.

I would have liked to see him try and kill almost thirty people with a pillow

goingtoverona

bummer man, hopefully if that does come to pass it will take a long time like most things in government. i just don't have the bones to stock up on assault rifles and mags right now. not only that but prices would be really high from all other gun owners doing the same thing. oh wells, only time will tell.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

also, diane feinstein just said that on day one of the new congress they are introducing bills in the house and senate to ban all future imports, sales, purchases, and possessions of assault rifles and magazines/clips that hold more than 10 rounds.

now before you pro gun people explode on democrats and blame them for trying to do something to prevent these massacres in the future, maybe blame the countless murderers who have killed people with these guns for fucking it up for all of you.

gimmesometruth27

goingtoverona wrote:

bummer man, hopefully if that does come to pass it will take a long time like most things in government. i just don't have the bones to stock up on assault rifles and mags right now. not only that but prices would be really high from all other gun owners doing the same thing. oh wells, only time will tell.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

also, diane feinstein just said that on day one of the new congress they are introducing bills in the house and senate to ban all future imports, sales, purchases, and possessions of assault rifles and magazines/clips that hold more than 10 rounds.

now before you pro gun people explode on democrats and blame them for trying to do something to prevent these massacres in the future, maybe blame the countless murderers who have killed people with these guns for fucking it up for all of you.

the way i understand the bill, if you own one now you are ok. it just goes into effect on future purchases and sales etc. you are probably going to have to regester the AR that you already own so you do not get in trouble after the proposed law goes into effect.

mickeyrat

goingtoverona wrote:

bummer man, hopefully if that does come to pass it will take a long time like most things in government. i just don't have the bones to stock up on assault rifles and mags right now. not only that but prices would be really high from all other gun owners doing the same thing. oh wells, only time will tell.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

also, diane feinstein just said that on day one of the new congress they are introducing bills in the house and senate to ban all future imports, sales, purchases, and possessions of assault rifles and magazines/clips that hold more than 10 rounds.

now before you pro gun people explode on democrats and blame them for trying to do something to prevent these massacres in the future, maybe blame the countless murderers who have killed people with these guns for fucking it up for all of you.

cmon man, thats a little insensitive aint it?


What solution(s) would you suggest to try to slow or stop these horrific acts?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

goingtoverona wrote:

bummer man, hopefully if that does come to pass it will take a long time like most things in government. i just don't have the bones to stock up on assault rifles and mags right now. not only that but prices would be really high from all other gun owners doing the same thing. oh wells, only time will tell.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

also, diane feinstein just said that on day one of the new congress they are introducing bills in the house and senate to ban all future imports, sales, purchases, and possessions of assault rifles and magazines/clips that hold more than 10 rounds.

now before you pro gun people explode on democrats and blame them for trying to do something to prevent these massacres in the future, maybe blame the countless murderers who have killed people with these guns for fucking it up for all of you.

Well... hopefully you can drum up a bunch of cash so you can build your armory.

I might be mistaken... but this post kind of had a "nah nah na boo boo" tone to it.

goingtoverona

i don't understand why gun owners are so against registering their firearms. not really sure how a national database is hurting anyones rights. i'm a hundred percent ok with registering everything i got.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

goingtoverona wrote:

bummer man, hopefully if that does come to pass it will take a long time like most things in government. i just don't have the bones to stock up on assault rifles and mags right now. not only that but prices would be really high from all other gun owners doing the same thing. oh wells, only time will tell.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

also, diane feinstein just said that on day one of the new congress they are introducing bills in the house and senate to ban all future imports, sales, purchases, and possessions of assault rifles and magazines/clips that hold more than 10 rounds.

now before you pro gun people explode on democrats and blame them for trying to do something to prevent these massacres in the future, maybe blame the countless murderers who have killed people with these guns for fucking it up for all of you.

the way i understand the bill, if you own one now you are ok. it just goes into effect on future purchases and sales etc. you are probably going to have to regester the AR that you already own so you do not get in trouble after the proposed law goes into effect.

goingtoverona

i have no idea on how to stop random crazy people from killing innocent people. i wish i did. can someone tell me why gun laws work in canada and australia but they don't work in mexico? i keep hearing this " where i live they do this and we dont have gun deaths" what is it about your countries that makes your gun bans work and why doesn't it work in mexico? and why would it work it the u.s., and please don't say it will work in the states because it worked in my country.

mickeyrat wrote:

goingtoverona wrote:

bummer man, hopefully if that does come to pass it will take a long time like most things in government. i just don't have the bones to stock up on assault rifles and mags right now. not only that but prices would be really high from all other gun owners doing the same thing. oh wells, only time will tell.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

also, diane feinstein just said that on day one of the new congress they are introducing bills in the house and senate to ban all future imports, sales, purchases, and possessions of assault rifles and magazines/clips that hold more than 10 rounds.

now before you pro gun people explode on democrats and blame them for trying to do something to prevent these massacres in the future, maybe blame the countless murderers who have killed people with these guns for fucking it up for all of you.

cmon man, thats a little insensitive aint it?


What solution(s) would you suggest to try to slow or stop these horrific acts?

gimmesometruth27

mickeyrat wrote:

cmon man, thats a little insensitive aint it?


What solution(s) would you suggest to try to slow or stop these horrific acts?

no it is not insensitive. i have been getting shit on here for my anti gun stance for years. and if the new law passes and is enacted, it is going to be liberals and democrats who the gun rights people are going to blame, when they should be blaming the individual shooters who got their assault rifles banned.

i blame the shoe bomber for making all of us have to take out shoes off at the airport, not tsa. if this guy did not try to bomb the plane with shoe bombs we would not have to take our shoes off.

i would first suggest limiting the amount of ammo one can purchase in a 7 day period. most of these crimes are committed with mass ammo purchases in the weeks leading up to the attacks. i would ban large capacity magazines, that way the shooter would have to stop and reload very often and they would have to get many many clips and they might not be able to carry all of that ammo without bags, etc, which would make them look suspicious to onlookers. i do not think that combat-ready weapons should be on the streets of america.

youngster

Yeah, that's sounds smart. Arm the teachers.

Then a group of punk pricks would attack a teacher by surprise in an empty hallway or a bathroom, steal the weapon and kill some kids or other teachers.

And don't say that would never happen.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

youngster wrote:

Yeah, that's sounds smart. Arm the teachers.

Then a group of punk pricks would attack a teacher by surprise in an empty hallway or a bathroom, steal the weapon and kill some kids or other teachers.

And don't say that would never happen.

Taking it even further... do you think the situation would ever arise when some teacher might feel threatened for some reason (hyper-cautious) and use the gun in self-defence?

youngster

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

youngster wrote:

Yeah, that's sounds smart. Arm the teachers.

Then a group of punk pricks would attack a teacher by surprise in an empty hallway or a bathroom, steal the weapon and kill some kids or other teachers.

And don't say that would never happen.

Taking it even further... do you think the situation would ever arise when some teacher might feel threatened for some reason (hyper-cautious) and use the gun in self-defence?

Excellent point. Another plausible situation. Bad idea all around. Locking school doors, windows, and any other entryway and have alarms for each door so there is an audible alarm at the door and at a central monitor panel is a start. I hate to think like this, but metal detectors now seem like a good idea so kids can't bring weapons into school. And have a guard/or security officer to log in/out every person who enters the school after school hours begin. I realize this would cost more money but I would be in favor of my local taxes going up a little to fund this.

Arming teachers and more gun control unfortunately will not stop tragedies like this from happening.

mickeyrat

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

mickeyrat wrote:

cmon man, thats a little insensitive aint it?


What solution(s) would you suggest to try to slow or stop these horrific acts?

no it is not insensitive. i have been getting shit on here for my anti gun stance for years. and if the new law passes and is enacted, it is going to be liberals and democrats who the gun rights people are going to blame, when they should be blaming the individual shooters who got their assault rifles banned.

i blame the shoe bomber for making all of us have to take out shoes off at the airport, not tsa. if this guy did not try to bomb the plane with shoe bombs we would not have to take our shoes off.

i would first suggest limiting the amount of ammo one can purchase in a 7 day period. most of these crimes are committed with mass ammo purchases in the weeks leading up to the attacks. i would ban large capacity magazines, that way the shooter would have to stop and reload very often and they would have to get many many clips and they might not be able to carry all of that ammo without bags, etc, which would make them look suspicious to onlookers. i do not think that combat-ready weapons should be on the streets of america.

I agree ,my post was more directed at GTV's response to your post. Something has to give , somewhere. An honest frank discussion about where we are as a nation, where we could be and what we need to do to get there is in order.
Followed by the action to get us there.
Hopefully, as ACA gos further into effect, it will address some of the short falls in mental health care.

pandora

As he entered the building and killed the first two adults he then went to the office.
The school nurse was hiding under the desk. She could see his feet.

Am I alone really? I wish she had had a gun and been trained to defend defenseless children.

redrock

Sooooo.... Where and how would all these guns and ammo be stored in a school? In the classrooms with all the kids? Would the teacher have the keys to these cabinets on her keyring. Those never get stolen or misplaced, do they? Gunman about to enter classroom full of panicking children (and teacher) - fumble with keys, get to first cabinet, get gun, fumble with keys again, get to second cabinet, get ammo, load gun with ammo, - where's the gunman? He had time to kill all the kids as they had no guidance from an adult to try and ensure their safety while she was trying to get herself armed. She's probably dead too anyway.

Yep. Great idea.