NRA-the massacre wouldn't have happened if teachers had guns

gibsonguitars

Hi, just spent the last several minutes reading some opinions posted on the "MOVING TRAIN" and I can't believe what I'm reading on some of them. I'm a Canadian Pearl Jam fan, I grew up in a small farming community just north of Montana. We owned several firearms back then, but we never felt we needed to go out and purchase handguns or automatic assault rifles. After I left home and moved to a city more than 30 years ago, I really felt no need to own a firearm.
What is this need that Americans feel to protect themselves? If you find that you are living in an area where you and your family are threatened in some way, MOVE!! RELOCATE TO A BETTER NEIGHBORHOOD!!
If I could somehow have Charleston Hesston brought back to life, I'd like to pry that gun out of his "cold, dead, hands" and smack him across the side of the head with it.
I would have thought that most people who frequent this forum would be somehow politically like-mined, but I guess there will always be that segment of readnecks and gangster wannabees out there.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

gibsonguitars wrote:

Hi, just spent the last several minutes reading some opinions posted on the "MOVING TRAIN" and I can't believe what I'm reading on some of them. I'm a Canadian Pearl Jam fan, I grew up in a small farming community just north of Montana. We owned several firearms back then, but we never felt we needed to go out and purchase handguns or automatic assault rifles. After I left home and moved to a city more than 30 years ago, I really felt no need to own a firearm.
What is this need that Americans feel to protect themselves? If you find that you are living in an area where you and your family are threatened in some way, MOVE!! RELOCATE TO A BETTER NEIGHBORHOOD!!
If I could somehow have Charleston Hesston brought back to life, I'd like to pry that gun out of his "cold, dead, hands" and smack him across the side of the head with it.
I would have thought that most people who frequent this forum would be somehow politically like-mined, but I guess there will always be that segment of readnecks and gangster wannabees out there.

Mindblowing, eh?

dimitrispearljam

redrock wrote:

Sooooo.... Where and how would all these guns and ammo be stored in a school? In the classrooms with all the kids? Would the teacher have the keys to these cabinets on her keyring. Those never get stolen or misplaced, do they? Gunman about to enter classroom full of panicking children (and teacher) - fumble with keys, get to first cabinet, get gun, fumble with keys again, get to second cabinet, get ammo, load gun with ammo, - where's the gunman? He had time to kill all the kids as they had no guidance from an adult to try and ensure their safety while she was trying to get herself armed. She's probably dead too anyway.

Yep. Great idea.

or the bad guy dont have a gun ,steal the keys and kill people with those guns
or he has a gun,kill the teacher and use more guns and ammo took from school to kill more people..

comebackgirl

redrock wrote:

Sooooo.... Where and how would all these guns and ammo be stored in a school? In the classrooms with all the kids? Would the teacher have the keys to these cabinets on her keyring. Those never get stolen or misplaced, do they? Gunman about to enter classroom full of panicking children (and teacher) - fumble with keys, get to first cabinet, get gun, fumble with keys again, get to second cabinet, get ammo, load gun with ammo, - where's the gunman? He had time to kill all the kids as they had no guidance from an adult to try and ensure their safety while she was trying to get herself armed. She's probably dead too anyway.

Yep. Great idea.

It's such an asinine idea. I would quit my job if they started instituting this at colleges.

goingtoverona

well obama was definitely hinting at gun policy change tonight in his address. i really hope that whatever ends up happening that it actually works and isn't just for show.

dignin

goingtoverona wrote:

well obama was definitely hinting at gun policy change tonight in his address. i really hope that whatever ends up happening that it actually works and isn't just for show.

With ya there

Heisenberg

Huckabee says the real reason the shooting happened is "not enough god in schools" :fp:

MayDay10

redrock wrote:

Sooooo.... Where and how would all these guns and ammo be stored in a school? In the classrooms with all the kids? Would the teacher have the keys to these cabinets on her keyring. Those never get stolen or misplaced, do they? Gunman about to enter classroom full of panicking children (and teacher) - fumble with keys, get to first cabinet, get gun, fumble with keys again, get to second cabinet, get ammo, load gun with ammo, - where's the gunman? He had time to kill all the kids as they had no guidance from an adult to try and ensure their safety while she was trying to get herself armed. She's probably dead too anyway.

Yep. Great idea.

It is terribly bad. I think the element of surprise and the actions necessary would make it very unlikely they could stop this kind of thing in time. There are also, what 1,000,000 teachers? I am sure many of them are irresponsible, untrustworthy, maybe have mental issues. I would think that we would have at least as good of a chance of a suicide in front of the kids, a teacher snapping, a teacher taking their firearm for a violent action, or an accidental shooting of someone who was misidentified as an intruder

I dont think this will ever, ever happen, but if it did, I would seriously have to evaluate if I want my family living here anymore.

gimmesometruth27

goingtoverona wrote:

well obama was definitely hinting at gun policy change tonight in his address. i really hope that whatever ends up happening that it actually works and isn't just for show.

i agree, i got that impression too. the polls over the weekend are supporting tighter gun laws.

people are legitimately angry over this event and i do not think that anything will be just for show. it would be a sick joke to engage in 6 months of political theater to get no real reform.

dimitrispearljam

well...the moto is
"at Democracy there are not dead-ends.."

the president need to move things..to do something,to put this matter on the table

and in the end,if he cant do it alone,is at your constitution the option of referendum?

let the people speak for this matter..

put all the option in a paper(free guns,ban guns,bun bullets,allow guns only after checking,,trained people only,checked from doctors before get a gun,armed schools,officers,the military at schools,no riffles,only pistols)..i dont know every possible idea and option,and let people of America to speak..
its your lifes and your children lifes we are talking...your voice should be heard..

gimmesometruth27

dimitrispearljam wrote:

well...the moto is
"at Democracy there are not dead-ends.."

the president need to move things..to do something,to put this matter on the table

and in the end,if he cant do it alone,is at your constitution the option of referendum?

let the people speak for this matter..

put all the option in a paper(free guns,ban guns,bun bullets,allow guns only after checking,,trained people only,checked from doctors before get a gun,armed schools,officers,the military at schools,no riffles,only pistols)..i dont know every possible idea and option,and let people of America to speak..
its your lifes and your children lifes we are talking...your voice should be heard..

we should be able to vote on it. but i think that the laws have to be made in the congress and signed by the president.

dimitrispearljam

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

well...the moto is
"at Democracy there are not dead-ends.."

the president need to move things..to do something,to put this matter on the table

and in the end,if he cant do it alone,is at your constitution the option of referendum?

let the people speak for this matter..

put all the option in a paper(free guns,ban guns,bun bullets,allow guns only after checking,,trained people only,checked from doctors before get a gun,armed schools,officers,the military at schools,no riffles,only pistols)..i dont know every possible idea and option,and let people of America to speak..
its your lifes and your children lifes we are talking...your voice should be heard..

we should be able to vote on it. but i think that the laws have to be made in the congress and signed by the president.

yep..every single citizen to vote..what ever needs to be done for people choose what type of life they want as comes to guns...
better late than never.....
if this last killing.. doesnt wake up people there and the leaders..
well,im sorry to say it,but the next fuckin crazy shooter will go to a hospital and kill 30 new born babies..

gimmesometruth27

not to get off topic, but i just noticed that you have 90,000+ posts

that is quite impressive... nice!!


ok back to the topic.

i do not think we can vote on it, i wish we could though.

dimitrispearljam

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

not to get off topic, but i just noticed that you have 90,000+ posts

that is quite impressive... nice!!


ok back to the topic.

i do not think we can vote on it, i wish we could though.

yep,i post alot of smiles,im a happy person!

so,what needs for some things change to constitution ?
what needs the president or the congress to do??

300 years ago wroitten a constitution and that it??you die with it..
its almost 2013..if something needs to change for the safety of the people of America,..things must change

goingtoverona

but would it really surprise you though? placate us temporarily until it isn't the top news story anymore then business as usual.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

goingtoverona wrote:

well obama was definitely hinting at gun policy change tonight in his address. i really hope that whatever ends up happening that it actually works and isn't just for show.

i agree, i got that impression too. the polls over the weekend are supporting tighter gun laws.

people are legitimately angry over this event and i do not think that anything will be just for show. it would be a sick joke to engage in 6 months of political theater to get no real reform.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

goingtoverona wrote:

but would it really surprise you though? placate us temporarily until it isn't the top news story anymore then business as usual.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

goingtoverona wrote:

well obama was definitely hinting at gun policy change tonight in his address. i really hope that whatever ends up happening that it actually works and isn't just for show.

i agree, i got that impression too. the polls over the weekend are supporting tighter gun laws.

people are legitimately angry over this event and i do not think that anything will be just for show. it would be a sick joke to engage in 6 months of political theater to get no real reform.

I'm not trying to pick a fight. Have you had a change of heart?

I sense that you are not really opposed (or at least not strongly opposed), but if I recall and am not getting people mixed up... I thought you were against gun legislation?

fife

goingtoverona wrote:

i have no idea on how to stop random crazy people from killing innocent people. i wish i did. can someone tell me why gun laws work in canada and australia but they don't work in mexico? i keep hearing this " where i live they do this and we dont have gun deaths" what is it about your countries that makes your gun bans work and why doesn't it work in mexico? and why would it work it the u.s., and please don't say it will work in the states because it worked in my country.

Good question going. I do live in Canada i don't know why its doesn't work in america or why it works in Canada. from my point of view which can be viewed as narrow is that we just don't understand why people need guns. We don't live in fear of being killed or not people taking our stuff. America I believe is a very fearful nation. They are afraid of what is unknown. They don't seem to have their priorities straight.

America is a very young nation when you think of it.

I just remember back in the 90's Radio head released a music video and in that video that was a topless woman and also a man that was dismembered. It was cartoon btw. MTV in America asked radio head to cut the scene of the topless woman out where in Canada we had a problem with the dismembering.

goingtoverona

i am strongly opposed to children getting mowed down with guns, but i am strongly for gun ownership. i don't really care about gun legislation getting passed, none of it should affect me if i make certain purchases in a timely fashion. i still believe it won't stop death, i wish it would, but i don't think it will.
i would be against legislation straight up banning all guns unless it was guns, cars, tobacco, alcohol, and other major killers all together.

JK_Livin

goingtoverona wrote:

i would be against legislation straight up banning all guns unless it was guns, cars, tobacco, alcohol, and other major killers all together.

The only thing I can say to this is that a gun's sole purpose is to kill and the others you list are not.

dunkman

goingtoverona wrote:

i would be against legislation straight up banning all guns unless it was guns, cars, tobacco, alcohol, and other major killers all together.

you forgot cancer... you need to ban cancer.