What I've learned on "This Moving Train"

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    dignin wrote:
    Great post
    Agreed.

    f4f, it's nice to see a different side of you, and to know of your background - music and otherwise. Kinda goes back to some of what gimme said in his post.

    (and by the way, I don't mind the long ones, I just need to be in a place to properly take it all in)

    (that's what she said :P )
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    hedonist wrote:

    (that's what she said :P )

    Hi-O!
  • fear4freedom
    fear4freedom Posts: 920
    hedonist wrote:
    dignin wrote:
    Great post
    Agreed.

    f4f, it's nice to see a different side of you, and to know of your background - music and otherwise. Kinda goes back to some of what gimme said in his post.

    (and by the way, I don't mind the long ones, I just need to be in a place to properly take it all in)

    (that's what she said :P )

    OH yes I used to have many places to "take it all in" :twisted:
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    hedonist wrote:

    (that's what she said :P )

    Hi-O!
    Day-O!

    That sig photo has me jonesing yet again.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I will also say that sometimes, I look back and wonder what the FUCK was I thinking?

    Live, and in the process, hopefully learn - at least try.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,894
    I've learned that I do not read long posts. ;)

    All great things here. I like Gimmie's description. It can get heated from time to time, but it's all good. Helps you either strengthen your viewpoint (by really being challenged) or change it. I've done both here over time.
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I've learned that I do not read long posts. ;)

    All great things here. I like Gimmie's description. It can get heated from time to time, but it's all good. Helps you either strengthen your viewpoint (by really being challenged) or change it. I've done both here over time.

    no kidding. back in 2001 I thought Dubya did the right thing invading Iraq. That was before I did my own research! :lol:
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  • dancepartner
    dancepartner Posts: 324
    cindybearcat; so, how often is your prerogative changed due to hostility?
    I say this because I've just seen my first example of what you guys keep referring to; that it can get rough on this train.
    It's not just an affliction that only I must suffer, but when I decided to hang out here and get to know you guys, I feel I've done just that. In fact, I feel as though you are one tight bunch but yet, there's a pack attack going on in another thread and I'm confused. Are you not a tight group? Well regardless, my affliction flared and I went on auto-pilot. I came to the defense of the one down being kicked.

    So yeah, this is one aspect I didn't need to learn here on this MT. There's enough of that crap going on "out there".
    sign me bummed....

    HFD; I had something I was gonna say here and now I've forgotten. Troubled mind I guess. If there's a way to review anothers post without losing your own, then I'd go back and see what it was you wrote inspiring me to want to reply to you. Ah well, maybe tomorrow. nite.
  • comebackgirl
    comebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    I think to a large extent we are a tight bunch, and like with any group there is conflict. The conflict isn't necessarily a problem...working through it in a productive manner can actually strengthen the group. Many of us probably replay the same dynamics that we experience with people in other areas of our life. Doing it on here gives us an opportunity to learn from it if we want to. We can take a step back and observe how we contribute to the dynamic and the role we play. Do we seek it out? Do we avoid it? Do we move through the drama triangle of becoming perpetrator, victim and rescuer? The triangle does get played out on repeat sometimes and the only way to stop it is to refuse to move into the different roles...but that is easier said than done...and maybe not everyone wants that to change.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    ?what happened
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    I have learned from other positive posters here.
    I have reinforced rejuvenated my positive side. It carries in my personal life as well.
    It is what I look for daily. :D
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    dancepartner wrote:
    cindybearcat; so, how often is your prerogative changed due to hostility?
    I say this because I've just seen my first example of what you guys keep referring to; that it can get rough on this train.
    It's not just an affliction that only I must suffer, but when I decided to hang out here and get to know you guys, I feel I've done just that. In fact, I feel as though you are one tight bunch but yet, there's a pack attack going on in another thread and I'm confused. Are you not a tight group? Well regardless, my affliction flared and I went on auto-pilot. I came to the defense of the one down being kicked.

    So yeah, this is one aspect I didn't need to learn here on this MT. There's enough of that crap going on "out there".
    sign me bummed....

    HFD; I had something I was gonna say here and now I've forgotten. Troubled mind I guess. If there's a way to review anothers post without losing your own, then I'd go back and see what it was you wrote inspiring me to want to reply to you. Ah well, maybe tomorrow. nite.


    we are tight knit but we do not suffer fools. do you not call your friends on their shit??? as far as ive ever experienced on here, you need to state your view clearly, you need not waffle about who the crap knows what and you can not be evasive when you are challenged. if a question is asked, its cause someone is seeking an answer... an answer that we can all understand. if that answer is not forthcoming then we will keep asking til we get the clarification we are looking for. oh and if soemone says stupid shit, they will be called on it. simple.
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    "pack attack" I like that term ...

    now I got to find a smiley with a sign :lol:

    Humor is needed in dealing with some here...
    also to remember people are just not what/who they seem.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
    Carl Rogers (whose work greatly influenced what is often referred to as "client centered therapy") said this:

    "It seems to me that anything that can be taught to another is relatively inconsequential and has little or no significant influence on behavior. Such self-discovered learning, truth that has been personally appropriated and assimilated in experience, cannot be directly communicated to another."

    It might be helpful- at least I feel certain this is true for myself- that the best of what can be learned here on AMT is that which comes from what we on our own coalesce through assimilating, digesting, experiencing and finally discovering for ourselves. Limiting what I take in limits what I experience which, in the long run, limits what I discover. Looked at this way, I think the converse could be just as true. That what I think I have to offer here is but a small part of a much larger whole seeking to be discovered. The moving train has many cars.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    brianlux wrote:
    ... The moving train has many cars.


    ill be in the bar car if you need me. ;)8-)
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
    catefrances wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    ... The moving train has many cars.


    ill be in the bar car if you need me. ;)8-)

    :lol: Good choice!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    hedonist wrote:
    I will also say that sometimes, I look back and wonder what the FUCK was I thinking?

    Live, and in the process, hopefully learn - at least try.

    I know... I've got posts here going back to 2003 and I'm afraid to look at them if I happen to come across them, because if I do, I'm usually embarrassed by them. Shit, I wish I could take back some of things I posted here last week. :oops: Oh well. So I've learned some things about myself here, as well as learning from the many interesting and brilliantly worded posts by others. :thumbup:
  • dancepartner
    dancepartner Posts: 324
    Kenny Olav; You've taught me to rethink socialsim. Understand though, I'm born and bred American. We were gifted a democracy. Something we've broken and we need to fix. Probably the best part of what you said was
    (I'd use those cute little paste quote things except I don't know how to get back to here) something about "Norway isn't perfect but it runs FOR the people".
    You are right, we have allowed our once nobly envisioned democracy to run for power. While we can learn from some great aspects about socialism, still, I'd rather have a democracy that works as intended. Socialism would be great if the people had in place a good plenty of failsafe detterents of elitist corruption. Evidently, Norway has yet to confront those what ifs.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    dancepartner wrote:
    Kenny Olav; You've taught me to rethink socialsim. Understand though, I'm born and bred American. We were gifted a democracy. Something we've broken and we need to fix. Probably the best part of what you said was
    (I'd use those cute little paste quote things except I don't know how to get back to here) something about "Norway isn't perfect but it runs FOR the people".
    You are right, we have allowed our once nobly envisioned democracy to run for power. While we can learn from some great aspects about socialism, still, I'd rather have a democracy that works as intended. Socialism would be great if the people had in place a good plenty of failsafe detterents of elitist corruption. Evidently, Norway has yet to confront those what ifs.

    personally id rather a system that values people equally over profit.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    catefrances wrote:
    dancepartner wrote:
    Kenny Olav; You've taught me to rethink socialsim. Understand though, I'm born and bred American. We were gifted a democracy. Something we've broken and we need to fix. Probably the best part of what you said was
    (I'd use those cute little paste quote things except I don't know how to get back to here) something about "Norway isn't perfect but it runs FOR the people".
    You are right, we have allowed our once nobly envisioned democracy to run for power. While we can learn from some great aspects about socialism, still, I'd rather have a democracy that works as intended. Socialism would be great if the people had in place a good plenty of failsafe detterents of elitist corruption. Evidently, Norway has yet to confront those what ifs.

    personally id rather a system that values people equally over profit.

    You would would hate the States.

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