What I've learned on "This Moving Train"

peacefrompaul

dancepartner wrote:

Okay you guys have me laughing. And also thinking, musing. This thread went awry, for my intention anyway, but it has given you (I think) a needed dialogue. I've been keeping up, feel like I'm getting to know you all, a nibble at a time. No, probably won't surround myself with people who like my shoes, but yeah, anyone who likes my landscaping is a shoe-in for life!
I'm musing though, realizing its not my place to try and redirect this thread back to the question I posed (several times) but rather - simply enjoy where you guys have taken it. So yeah, its been my privilege.
However, next post - I'm gonna be more specific!

CBG has done it again

catefrances

brianlux wrote:

Cosmo, your thoughts about using our minds remind me that the other day I watched "Idiocracy". It's an incredible dumb movie that makes a good point (although a much shorter version would have worked for me- maybe 10 minutes ). But yeah, it's just too easy to grab a sound bite, Google a few "facts", stick them in the micro wave and , voila, an opinion.

Dancepartner- yeah, it's easy to jaded or even bitter at times and we all do that here but hopefully we're learning and it's good to have a fresh voice here such as yours. And a good well-aged port on a cold day- oh yeah!

granted it was a movie about incredible dumbness but are you sure idiocracy is an incredibly dumb movie?


p.s. i dont own a microwave.

peacefrompaul

catefrances wrote:

p.s. i dont own a microwave.

How do you cook hot pockets? :P

hedonist

peacefrompaul wrote:

catefrances wrote:

p.s. i dont own a microwave.

How do you cook hot pockets? :P

That is a loaded question

dancepartner, sorry...tangents tend to happen. Hope you can take umbrage in that this has mostly been a refreshingly open and positive thread.

dancepartner

yes I can and I am! Thanks and g'nite.

comebackgirl

peacefrompaul wrote:

dancepartner wrote:

Okay you guys have me laughing. And also thinking, musing. This thread went awry, for my intention anyway, but it has given you (I think) a needed dialogue. I've been keeping up, feel like I'm getting to know you all, a nibble at a time. No, probably won't surround myself with people who like my shoes, but yeah, anyone who likes my landscaping is a shoe-in for life!
I'm musing though, realizing its not my place to try and redirect this thread back to the question I posed (several times) but rather - simply enjoy where you guys have taken it. So yeah, its been my privilege.
However, next post - I'm gonna be more specific!

CBG has done it again

You love hearing about my shoes :wave:

pandora

I've learned people do not do as they say.

I posted a video about irresponsibility in another thread ...
it says we can never see it in the mirror but certainly can in others.
I would say this is very true of us all.

Cosmo

dancepartner wrote:

Okay you guys have me laughing. And also thinking, musing. This thread went awry, for my intention anyway, but it has given you (I think) a needed dialogue. I've been keeping up, feel like I'm getting to know you all, a nibble at a time. No, probably won't surround myself with people who like my shoes, but yeah, anyone who likes my landscaping is a shoe-in for life!
I'm musing though, realizing its not my place to try and redirect this thread back to the question I posed (several times) but rather - simply enjoy where you guys have taken it. So yeah, its been my privilege.
However, next post - I'm gonna be more specific!

...
Wait... I thought the topic of this discussion was "What I Have Learned on This 'Moving Train".
Are you simply stating what You (dancepartner) have learned here... or are you asking Me (Cosmo, Hedonist, ComeBackGirl, et. al.) what I have learned from this 'Moving Train'?
Because if you want to know what WE have learned... it is going to be far different from what you have learned, isn't it? That's because we all process things differently, based upon our own perspectives... mostly based upon our life experiences. And part of the learning process is observation of the environment. This involves processing limited incoming information in order to form an opinion on where people are coming from.. based solely on what is type out on here... from basically, an anonymous source.
...
So... I don't get what you are saying here... do you want to know what we have learned here... or do you want to express wht you have learned... and want feed back on your learning experience here?

pandora

dancepartner wrote:

Okay you guys have me laughing. And also thinking, musing. This thread went awry, for my intention anyway, but it has given you (I think) a needed dialogue. I've been keeping up, feel like I'm getting to know you all, a nibble at a time. No, probably won't surround myself with people who like my shoes, but yeah, anyone who likes my landscaping is a shoe-in for life!
I'm musing though, realizing its not my place to try and redirect this thread back to the question I posed (several times) but rather - simply enjoy where you guys have taken it. So yeah, its been my privilege.
However, next post - I'm gonna be more specific!

We are entertaining yes?

I love it here I have learned that!

gimmesometruth27

i have not replied because i hadn't had time to read through all of the thread and compose my thoughts.

i have learned a lot on here. a lot about life in general, and also a lot of factual stuff and history and politics. i've also learned a lot of practical information like "be careful who you trust".

i have viewed forums all over the internet and for some reason this forum, a vast majority of the time, seems to be the most warm and highbrow and diverse. some forums if you are a liberal it is better to not get involved there. some are the same way but about conservatives. we have a good mix here with liberals, democrats, republicans, independants, third party supporters, tea partiers, and people from all over the world of differing political philosophies.

i have been around here for a long time and i have seen various incarnations of AMT. i have developed great relationships on here, friendships and otherwise. even the most tragic relationship of my life was with someone i met on this very forum, but that is an entirely different story. i think years ago before posters had to be paying members to post it was much more diverse. we had people from all walks of life from all corners of the world posting on there. i got to know some people pretty well back then that seemed to disappear overnight when the board became pay-to-post. i think tenclub might have done itself a disservice when they made that decision, but i can't judge when i do not know the factors involved in the decision. i do sometimes wonder about some of those people and wonder how they are doing.

it is just like life when you read enough posts by someone that you feel like you kind of know them in some way and you can almost predict what they might say in certain threads. i think we have that here now. there are regulars here and we kind of know each others' politics and positions on issues. but also just like in life, people come and go. for whatever reasons, you develop relationships and become friends with people and after awhile they come and go.

i think the best analogy that i can come up with to describe the community on here would be like when i was living in a fraternity house in college. there are people from all over the place. different states, countries, political affiliations, socioeconomic statuses, etc, but there is something that unites us and keeps us coming back. that thing here is pearl jam.

in the fraternity house we had about 50 guys living there. it was like living in an apartment complex where everyone leaves for a bit and then comes back at the end of the day. i knew a bit about everyone but there were people that i tended to gravitate to and get to know a little better and i got very close to some people. just like on here. there were people there that i did not see eye to eye with, or didn't particularly like. we never wished each other ill, we just were not close. just like on here. i used to go at it pretty hard with some people on here and i have to admit that i really did not like some of those guys, but at PJ 20 we all met, shared beer and jager, had discussions, and we patched up any animosity that there may have been. i can't believe that it's been a year since i argued with any of them on here but bonding over beer was how we handled such things in the house too...ahhh the healing powers of booze.. lol....

in the house we used to talk trash to each other and we used to try to have intelligent discussion about the issues of the day, just as we do on here. only back then i remember 2 guys fistfighting over nafta in 1993, but that again is a different story.. when things went well for one or a few guys we celebrated and were happy for them, just like on here. as years went on people would move out of the house and new ones would move in. just like on here. when one of the brothers died tragically, we all mourned together. just like we have done on here when posters have passed away.

people will always come and go in our lives, but institutions remain. just as i left the house in 1998, the fraternity remains. when people come and go here, long after i have left, pearl jam and their legacy will remain.

perhaps the biggest thing that i have learned, even though the lesson escapes me all the time, is this... i am just a dude sitting behind a keyboard reading things typed by others on this website. i reply, or post, or quote and reply to someone, and i forget that that person i reply to is another real person on the other end of the internet reading my words. and there are all these other real people at other corners of the internet reading the exchange between that poster and i. these people are reading it and thinking about it. some blow me off, most times rightfully so lol... some process that and formulate and type a reply, some add to it, some offer a rebuttal and then the direction of this thread full of words and letters changes and evolves. and it absolutely fucking blows me away how that works.... the lesson i keep losing is that we are all real people, we all have real feelings, and we all have our real lives. and to me THAT is the biggest lesson and the biggest thing i need to keep in mind when i post.

hedonist

Great post there, gimme.

brianlux

Well said, gimme. Thanks for the reminder that others out there are real people with feelings.

We all have something to learn- I certainly know I do. I think :shock: that's why I enjoy this forum. I've learned a lot from others here and I'm encouraged to learn more. I also like that at times my beliefs are challenged. This offers me an opportunity to go a little further in researching an issue or looking at it from a different angle.

Kudos to all here!

Hugh Freaking Dillon

I was not well versed in world politics, and am still quite challenged in that area. But my inner circle of friends never really touch on "serious" topics, and when we do, it's because the one person who does is a fucking know-it-all lawyer who thinks she knows everything, so people shy away from that type of personality, much like people do here.

I learn something new about world affairs every time I'm here. Which is pretty much every day.

dancepartner

Oh boy! How I enjoy this thread. FYI—I live an unscheduled life which means I can't check in regularly.

Comebackgirl; yeah, girls and their shoes and it sums it up just fine: we really do like it when others think we have something special going on—either from our tips to our toes!

Cosmo; I'm chuckling at the humor, the twist, and at myself. Yes, this post is "What I've learned on AMT
It ends with a question: "What do YOU guys want to see, (or feel) this MT (a political thread catagory) could, or should be, used for? Instead, YOU guys took this thread on a run of its own: "what YOU guys have learned from this MT". So I'm smiling, thinking about everyones post here, thinking that I've learned more about you guys in this one thread than I have from all the months of reading all the other threads and THIS makes me happy. So you see—the jokes on me. YOU guys took it where you wanted, not where I wanted and yet—it's exacally what it need to be! so yeah, thanks.

Pandora; always, I like the entertainment here.

Gimme; Wow! that was a post of some insightful thought. You honor me.

HFD; I'm certain ALL of us can relate: finding ourselves hanging with the same group of friends—casual and the best of, when a breeze lifts us, suspends us above the rumble of the same conversation which took place at the last gathering and the last and the last. The same, "safe stuff" conversation over and over where if anyone ventured into the waters of a "serious dialogue" the hubbub would drop like an LP coming to a screeching halt. So yeah, its probably like a breath of fresh air for all of us to come here—to challenge ourselves to expand just a bit.

Well, nite again. By the way, is there a particular evening when most of you check in? Nothing comes regular in my life but if it does for you guys—I'd like to make a speficifc effort to join you.

catefrances

peacefrompaul wrote:

catefrances wrote:

p.s. i dont own a microwave.

How do you cook hot pockets? :P

farts warm them up. thats why i have a cow. :P

peacefrompaul

catefrances wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

catefrances wrote:

p.s. i dont own a microwave.

How do you cook hot pockets? :P

farts warm them up. thats why i have a cow. :P

You just ruined hot pockets for me

catefrances

peacefrompaul wrote:

You just ruined hot pockets for me

youre welcome. :P

fear4freedom

My brother gave me a CD called Pearl Jam TEN two weeks before it went nationwide. I listened to it and knew that they were the band I would be closest to for the next couple decades or so. Maybe they will even be there forever. I walked closer with Pearl Jam than anything else in the world, including God! I was a hacky-sacking, acid eating, beach combing hippie! One thing I excelled at was hosting parties that will never be forgotten, and Pearl Jam was always in the air. I grew up in a very liberal household and lets just say my extended family was very big and very carefree. We had parties my entire life and when I was old enough to have parties.....you better believe that I hosting unique parties with Pearl Jam as the main sound! I promoted Pearl Jam to everyone, including my mother! Today, when people hear a Pearl Jam song, they tell me they think of me briefly. Pearl Jam concerts, Pittsburgh Steelers football games, Ocean City, Md. beach houses, Pittsburgh clubs, bars and universities were all on the menu and Pearl Jam was the main entree.

It took me awhile to join the club here, but when I did, it was a special feeling of inclusiveness. It felt great to be a part of something global and all having something in common that I love....Pearl Jam. Pearl Jam used to be my life, now its an escape. I dont listen to much music anymore, nor do I ever travel to attend concerts, however I will still do so for one band! I feel as if I have changed and my interests have changed, I still love PJ but I wont spend 8k to go see them on a tour in Europe, although that would be the best thing ever! I did see them in Toronto for PJ20 on 9/11/11, which was an unbelieveable show! I have seen them about 20 times, which is a blessing for sure.

I have not gotten close to anyone on the site here....probably cause im a outspoken conservative, so I wont hold my breath. I can easily hang out with anyone here and we would have a blast! I can appreciate everyone's right to have their opinions and speak their mind. I think that anyone who is active in discussing the issues, whether left or right or in between, is a good thing. Its important for us to remain informed as much as possible. It seems as if both sides have witty, intelligent, honorable and motivated people, which is awesome. I grew up a liberal Democrat so I have much empathy for everyone on here. I believe moderation is one of the key value we need to embrace regarding all aspects in our lives. Rebellious Truths is a model which I would like to try here on AMT one day. Its a place for all walks of life to come together and try to be constructive. God bless you all and Godspeed.

dignin

fear4freedom wrote:

My brother gave me a CD called Pearl Jam TEN two weeks before it went nationwide. I listened to it and knew that they were the band I would be closest to for the next couple decades or so. Maybe they will even be there forever. I walked closer with Pearl Jam than anything else in the world, including God! I was a hacky-sacking, acid eating, beach combing hippie! One thing I excelled at was hosting parties that will never be forgotten, and Pearl Jam was always in the air. I grew up in a very liberal household and lets just say my extended family was very big and very carefree. We had parties my entire life and when I was old enough to have parties.....you better believe that I hosting unique parties with Pearl Jam as the main sound! I promoted Pearl Jam to everyone, including my mother! Today, when people hear a Pearl Jam song, they tell me they think of me briefly. Pearl Jam concerts, Pittsburgh Steelers football games, Ocean City, Md. beach houses, Pittsburgh clubs, bars and universities were all on the menu and Pearl Jam was the main entree.

It took me awhile to join the club here, but when I did, it was a special feeling of inclusiveness. It felt great to be a part of something global and all having something in common that I love....Pearl Jam. Pearl Jam used to be my life, now its an escape. I dont listen to much music anymore, nor do I ever travel to attend concerts, however I will still do so for one band! I feel as if I have changed and my interests have changed, I still love PJ but I wont spend 8k to go see them on a tour in Europe, although that would be the best thing ever! I did see them in Toronto for PJ20 on 9/11/11, which was an unbelieveable show! I have seen them about 20 times, which is a blessing for sure.

I have not gotten close to anyone on the site here....probably cause im a outspoken conservative, so I wont hold my breath. I can easily hang out with anyone here and we would have a blast! I can appreciate everyone's right to have their opinions and speak their mind. I think that anyone who is active in discussing the issues, whether left or right or in between, is a good thing. Its important for us to remain informed as much as possible. It seems as if both sides have witty, intelligent, honorable and motivated people, which is awesome. I grew up a liberal Democrat so I have much empathy for everyone on here. I believe moderation is one of the key value we need to embrace regarding all aspects in our lives. Rebellious Truths is a model which I would like to try here on AMT one day. Its a place for all walks of life to come together and try to be constructive. God bless you all and Godspeed.

Great post

dancepartner

Fear4freedom; I think this has been about the 4th long post here. Actually, about the 4th longest (aside from mine as I don't do well with writing short anything it seems...dammit!) But the 4th longest about how you guys actually feel about each other, and about AMT. Nice effort. thks.