No I'm familiar with it. I believe you made the point about fighting about Medicaid but then collecting it. I could read it back for you if you want?
Right.. Which you then made about your pool and your garage and stuff.
Wow. :fp: There was quite a bit more there than that. Some sort of BS about how you feel people who have enough shouldn't have that much...or blah blah blah...some sort of socialist bs. If you don't remember just read through.
What if that vote was coupled along with a bill to not club baby seals?
Baby seals.
You're so unaware of current events that you think the vote to end DADT was maybe coupled with a bill protecting baby seals.
Well, that explains a lot.
First of all, it was an example. :fp: Second of all, taking that hard line a stand about a single vote when not taking the other circumstances surrounding any stance a politician takes is like the exmple I used of Obama is a murderer. He did sign off on the assasination of Bin Laden correct? I guess he's a murderer. Simple as that then. I say we gather our pitchforks and storm the WHite House. There really couldn't have been any other factors going into that decision correct? :fp:
Wow. :fp: There was quite a bit more there than that. Some sort of BS about how you feel people who have enough shouldn't have that much...or blah blah blah...some sort of socialist bs. If you don't remember just read through.
No.. You said that everyone takes all they can get. Don't think I said that there should be a limit on how much anyone has, just that some people are willin to help others out and some aren't.
It was about how you'd take whatever you could get and then there was some doomsday "one piece of food" scenario and then you bragging about having a two car garage and a pool.
First of all, it was an example. :fp: Second of all, taking that hard line a stand about a single vote when not taking the other circumstances surrounding any stance a politician takes
And it was an absurd one.
You've talked yourself into a corner.
You said you could find 50 news sources to contradict the facts in that article.
I told you to go find one. Just one source that said he didn't vote against repealing DADT.
Instead, you suggested that maybe he was protecting the baby deals the two times he voted on the DADT repeal (which was a stand-alone bill with no mention of baby seals), And you said that because you can't find a single article that says he didn't vote "no" on repealing DADT twice.
Wow. :fp: There was quite a bit more there than that. Some sort of BS about how you feel people who have enough shouldn't have that much...or blah blah blah...some sort of socialist bs. If you don't remember just read through.
No.. You said that everyone takes all they can get. Don't think I said that there should be a limit on how much anyone has, just that some people are willin to help others out and some aren't.
It was about how you'd take whatever you could get and then there was some doomsday "one piece of food" scenario and then you bragging about having a two car garage and a pool.
I can draw you a pie chart if you want.
Wow...you really do hear what you want to hear. :fp: I wasn't bragging about having a two car garage. You brought up the ridiculous point about someone having enough and should ditribute like this was Communist Russia or something and I brought up the point about who determines what is enough? Is it you. Is it me? I mean I live a neighborhood where a family has a five car garage. SHould I go to their house...knock on the door and say you have enough fucker, had it over! Try rereading the threads...it will help you.
First of all, it was an example. :fp: Second of all, taking that hard line a stand about a single vote when not taking the other circumstances surrounding any stance a politician takes
And it was an absurd one.
You've talked yourself into a corner.
You said you could find 50 news sources to contradict the facts in that article.
I told you to go find one. Just one source that said he didn't vote against repealing DADT.
Instead, you suggested that maybe he was protecting the baby deals the two times he voted on the DADT repeal (which was a stand-alone bill with no mention of baby seals), And you said that because you can't find a single article that says he didn't vote "no" on repealing DADT twice.
No I haven't talked myself into a corner. Also, I think it''s quite funny that you keep bringing up the "baby seal" example I used when I never said this bill was coupled with something like that and you conveniently leave out the three other points I make in the same sentence. I think that's called "selective quotes" or "selective journalisn" quite like that webpage. You really are quite lost if you believe single votes by politicians are determined solely by them and don't follow other protocol and circumstance. Furthering that you keep avoiding the point I make about Obama being a murderer correct. I mean he signed the order to assasinate Bin Laden correct? There wasn't anything else that went into that decision correct? I mean he basically just wanted to kill Bin Laden one day so he woke up and said "you know what guys...today we kill Bin Laden". He signed the order adn it was done. I guess that makes him a murderer as much as Paul's vote on this single issue makes him what this "alternative" lifestyle page paints him to be.
You really are quite lost if you believe single votes by politicians are determined solely by them and don't follow other protocol and circumstance.
So you didn't read the article. Because it wasn't about a "single vote" but how he has 100% of the time voted against any and all glbt issues... Adoption, DADT, DOMA, hate crimes, ENDA, immigration, marriage equality and even anti-bullying. Over his 7 terms.
Furthering that you keep avoiding the point I make about Obama being a murderer correct.
Well if you mean your desperate and rather pathetic attempt to change the subject to something else, then yes... I'm ignoring it.
I guess that makes him a murderer as much as Paul's vote on this single issue makes him what this "alternative" lifestyle page paints him to be.
Like I pointed about above, it's many issues... Over many years... And many votes. A "pattern," if you will.
I realize you're getting a juvenile kick out of telling me I'm an "alternative lifestyle" but that says more about you than anything else.
And calling The Advocate (a news magazine that been in print since the early 70s and has won a lot on journalism awards) an "alternative page" and comparing it to a nazi website shows how desperate you are to make your "points."
I don't really trust any politicians to have any interest in my financial situation. Therefore I usually vote on social issues. Paul Ryan is ready to take us back 100 years or more. No thanks. Anti-elderly, anti-women, anti-gay, anti-poor and pro military spending out the ass. Maybe the easiest choice for me since '04.
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Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) cosponsored a bill that would give fetuses full personhood rights from the moment of fertilization, which was even rejected by voters in the socially conservative state of Mississippi. He voted to defund federal family planning programs, authored a budget that dismantles Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare, all of which disproportionately aid and employ women, and voted multiple times to prevent women in the military from using their own money to pay for abortions at military hospitals.
Ryan also supported a highly controversial bill that Democrats nicknamed the "Let Women Die Act," which would have allowed hospitals to refuse to provide a woman emergency abortion care, even if her life is on the line.
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There is simply no refuting the argument that Paul Ryan has done everything within his power to oppress the GL community. Facts are facts. In all that silly arguing, nobody posted anything to the contrary. This man is a dangerous extremist. And his viewpoints are not nuanced. He has laid it out there for all to see (which is admirable in a way, especially compared to his running mate :? ).
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"Mitt Romney requested "several" years of tax returns from his potential running mates, a senior adviser to the candidate said Saturday, suggesting that those considered for the ticket may have been required to reveal more financial documents than the candidate himself."
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"Mitt Romney requested "several" years of tax returns from his potential running mates, a senior adviser to the candidate said Saturday, suggesting that those considered for the ticket may have been required to reveal more financial documents than the candidate himself."
So, he's a hypocrite because this may have happend and it MAY mean they would be required to reveal more? Seems a little presumptions. But then again, this is what politics in general has become. And obama is the new leader of this absurdity.
What I continue to find frustrating is that it seems that almost any politician that is actually for making tough decisions about spending, always skews those cuts too far to one side of the aisle and is usually against personal liberties of all citizens.
I guess since I will never have the right candidate all on one, I'm going to try and balance my voting so I get it all from different candidates (pres & congress). It might be the only way to try and get balance, though I may also get a government that accomplishes nothing!
"Mitt Romney requested "several" years of tax returns from his potential running mates, a senior adviser to the candidate said Saturday, suggesting that those considered for the ticket may have been required to reveal more financial documents than the candidate himself."
So, he's a hypocrite because this may have happend and it MAY mean they would be required to reveal more? Seems a little presumptions. But then again, this is what politics in general has become. And obama is the new leader of this absurdity.
That's one reason. His health care policy is another. The fact that he rails against outsourcing while making a fortune doing it is another.
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There is simply no refuting the argument that Paul Ryan has done everything within his power to oppress the GL community. Facts are facts. In all that silly arguing, nobody posted anything to the contrary. This man is a dangerous extremist. And his viewpoints are not nuanced. He has laid it out there for all to see (which is admirable in a way, especially compared to his running mate :? ).
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Speaking of which...is anyone else's gaydar picking up on Mr. Ryan?
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."
plus he came up with the controversial ryan budget that has pissed off a lot of people and can't seem to pass...
this is a shameless play to appease the teapartiers. the former governor of mass has gone way right with this pick....let's see how it works.
let's get it on!!
:corn:
We're waist deep in a recession and it's getting worse by the month. "Let's get it on?" This isn't the Super Bowl. Our political discourse fucking sucks.
There is simply no refuting the argument that Paul Ryan has done everything within his power to oppress the GL community. Facts are facts. In all that silly arguing, nobody posted anything to the contrary. This man is a dangerous extremist. And his viewpoints are not nuanced. He has laid it out there for all to see (which is admirable in a way, especially compared to his running mate :? ).
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Speaking of which...is anyone else's gaydar picking up on Mr. Ryan?
ummm..."sleeps at work" while his wife and children are at home? Yes...maybe he could be the push to homesexual acceptance across the two parties?
There is simply no refuting the argument that Paul Ryan has done everything within his power to oppress the GL community. Facts are facts. In all that silly arguing, nobody posted anything to the contrary. This man is a dangerous extremist. And his viewpoints are not nuanced. He has laid it out there for all to see (which is admirable in a way, especially compared to his running mate :? ).
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Speaking of which...is anyone else's gaydar picking up on Mr. Ryan?
ummm..."sleeps at work" while his wife and children are at home? Yes...maybe he could be the push to homesexual acceptance across the two parties?
Yep. It's always the ones that yell the loudest that end up in a motel room with a male stripper.
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We can debate the two-faced "for me, not for thee" attitude of Ayn Rand in another thread, maybe, but while I'm not surprised at someone whose whole mantra was "greed is good, fuck you" taking what they can get while unloading on others who do the same, there are many people who have done a lot of work to help others in their lives when they could have spent that time helping themselves.
When PJ tickets go on sale...you can have them or I can have them. No in between...just you or me. Please don't tell me you will defer those tickets to me. :fp: Society is the way it is. Take care of yourself, family, then friends. Just the way it is.
:? :? That's how some people in society are. But there are also people who do things that are meant of be solely for the greater good and do so at a cost or sacrifice. I hope you realize that and were just overstating your case!
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At least this a fair and unbiased source. :fp: Shall we dig up some other fair and unbiased sources talking about the other side then too?
No. We can't. If you're going to say that a glbt news magazine isn't reliable when talking about glbt issues, then no Christians can be considered trustworthy when talking about religious freedoms and the wall street journal isn't allowed to be considered a reliable source when taking about money.
And what "other side" did you want? Someone to talk about how great it is that he voted to ban glbt adoption or someone to say he didn't REALLY vote to keep DADT.
The article linked there is just a list of facts. How he voted. That isn't an opinion piece. So "biased" and "balanced" don't apply. Unless there's a fact you think they have wrong.
Seriosuly? :fp: SO quoting an article from an "alernative website" is unbiased? Certainly you can't be serious. That's like me quoting an article from a Red Sox website assuming they would be unbiased about how good the New York Yankees are!
Geez, I hope you don't rely solely on mainstream news sites for your info - they can be the most biased of all. If anyone wants to be try well informed, alternate news sources are really important! Just because it's not on CNN or MSNBC or fox or whatever doesn't mean it's automatically untrue. Ryan's extensive history on LGBT related votes is well documented. The Advocate is, in this case, an expert source on the topic. Did I read you compare the advocate to neo-nazi propaganda???? :fp: The Advocate does of course have a platform, but they also know the importance of fact so that they don't degrade themselves as a source of correct and intelligent information so as to not compromise their position.
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Why do I see a picture of Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney when I go to Barack Obama's website? At what point are we finally going to wake up and realize we're suckers?
plus he came up with the controversial ryan budget that has pissed off a lot of people and can't seem to pass...
this is a shameless play to appease the teapartiers. the former governor of mass has gone way right with this pick....let's see how it works.
let's get it on!!
:corn:
We're waist deep in a recession and it's getting worse by the month. "Let's get it on?" This isn't the Super Bowl. Our political discourse fucking sucks.
what are you talking about? this election is a clear choice of which direction the people want the country to go. romney has gone waaay right with this pick. he could have chosen a moderate but he didn't. the battle lines are drawn, we know who is on both tickets now, and we know who either side is pandering to. so yeah. let's duke it out and let the people decide.
there is so much on this ryan guy that obama can make an issue of that i think that romney just sunk his own ship.
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Within minutes of tapping Paul Ryan as his vice presidential nominee, presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney was distancing himself from the congressman's controversial budget, which includes steep cuts to government programs and changing Medicare into a voucher-like program.
The Romney campaign sent out talking points on Saturday that made the case that he was his own man on matters of Medicare and Social Security and that he wouldn't be tied to a document he insisted he'd sign into law and once called "marvelous."
The main talking points are below:
Questions and Answers About The Romney/Ryan Ticket:
1) Does this mean Mitt Romney is adopting the Paul Ryan plan?
· Gov. Romney applauds Paul Ryan for going in the right direction with his budget, and as president he will be putting together his own plan for cutting the deficit and putting the budget on a path to balance.
· Romney's administration will go through the budget line by line and ask two questions: Can we afford it? And, if not, should we borrow money from China to pay for it?
· Mitt Romney will start with the easiest cut of all: Obamacare, a trillion-dollar entitlement we don't want and can't afford.
· Mitt Romney also laid out commonsense reforms that will make good on our promises to today's seniors and save Social Security and Medicare for future generations.
2) Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have different views on some policy areas -- like Medicare spending, entitlement reform, labor, etc. -- do you think those differences are going to hurt or help?
· Of course they aren't going to have the same view on every issue. But they both share the view that this election is a choice about two fundamentally different paths for this country. President Obama has taken America down a path of debt and decline. Romney and Ryan believe in a path for America that leads to more jobs, less debt and smaller government. So, while you might find an issue or two where they might not agree, they are in complete agreement on the direction that they want to lead America
Distancing himself from the Ryan budget may be an act of political necessity for Romney, as the proposals -- mainly those for entitlement programs -- have proven unpopular in various congressional district races and public opinion polls.
But it won't be easy, as Romney is on record praising the Ryan budget on multiple occasions.
"I think it'd be marvelous if the Senate were to pick up Paul Ryan's budget and to adopt it and pass it along to the president," he said this March.
Elsewhere, he added: "I spent a good deal of time with Congressman Ryan. When his plan came out, I applauded it as an important step," he said. "We're going to have to make changes like the ones Paul Ryan proposed."
In a Fox News Sunday interview in December 2011, meanwhile, Romney was asked about the Ryan budget as if it were his own plan and responded by arguing the merits of Ryan's approach.
And as pointed out by the Obama campaign, Romney said in an interview with a Milwaukee radio station in March 2012 that he and Ryan had been working "over the last several months" in collaboration on plans "for a tax policy and spending, as well as Medicare reform." Ryan's "proposals and the ones I’ve outlined in my campaign are very much on the same page," Romney added.
Ryan, for his part, seemed to agree, telling CBS in March that Romney would enact the major parts of his budget as president.
"I'm not expecting everybody to enact every little piece of this," Ryan said. "But, yes, he -- and the other candidates running for president -- have embraced these kinds of reforms because we know it's the best way to save and strengthen the Medicare guarantee, save Medicaid."
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Within minutes of tapping Paul Ryan as his vice presidential nominee, presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney was distancing himself from the congressman's controversial budget, which includes steep cuts to government programs and changing Medicare into a voucher-like program.
The Romney campaign sent out talking points on Saturday that made the case that he was his own man on matters of Medicare and Social Security and that he wouldn't be tied to a document he insisted he'd sign into law and once called "marvelous."
The main talking points are below:
Questions and Answers About The Romney/Ryan Ticket:
1) Does this mean Mitt Romney is adopting the Paul Ryan plan?
· Gov. Romney applauds Paul Ryan for going in the right direction with his budget, and as president he will be putting together his own plan for cutting the deficit and putting the budget on a path to balance.
· Romney's administration will go through the budget line by line and ask two questions: Can we afford it? And, if not, should we borrow money from China to pay for it?
· Mitt Romney will start with the easiest cut of all: Obamacare, a trillion-dollar entitlement we don't want and can't afford.
· Mitt Romney also laid out commonsense reforms that will make good on our promises to today's seniors and save Social Security and Medicare for future generations.
2) Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have different views on some policy areas -- like Medicare spending, entitlement reform, labor, etc. -- do you think those differences are going to hurt or help?
· Of course they aren't going to have the same view on every issue. But they both share the view that this election is a choice about two fundamentally different paths for this country. President Obama has taken America down a path of debt and decline. Romney and Ryan believe in a path for America that leads to more jobs, less debt and smaller government. So, while you might find an issue or two where they might not agree, they are in complete agreement on the direction that they want to lead America
Distancing himself from the Ryan budget may be an act of political necessity for Romney, as the proposals -- mainly those for entitlement programs -- have proven unpopular in various congressional district races and public opinion polls.
But it won't be easy, as Romney is on record praising the Ryan budget on multiple occasions.
"I think it'd be marvelous if the Senate were to pick up Paul Ryan's budget and to adopt it and pass it along to the president," he said this March.
Elsewhere, he added: "I spent a good deal of time with Congressman Ryan. When his plan came out, I applauded it as an important step," he said. "We're going to have to make changes like the ones Paul Ryan proposed."
In a Fox News Sunday interview in December 2011, meanwhile, Romney was asked about the Ryan budget as if it were his own plan and responded by arguing the merits of Ryan's approach.
And as pointed out by the Obama campaign, Romney said in an interview with a Milwaukee radio station in March 2012 that he and Ryan had been working "over the last several months" in collaboration on plans "for a tax policy and spending, as well as Medicare reform." Ryan's "proposals and the ones I’ve outlined in my campaign are very much on the same page," Romney added.
Ryan, for his part, seemed to agree, telling CBS in March that Romney would enact the major parts of his budget as president.
"I'm not expecting everybody to enact every little piece of this," Ryan said. "But, yes, he -- and the other candidates running for president -- have embraced these kinds of reforms because we know it's the best way to save and strengthen the Medicare guarantee, save Medicaid."
:fp: It's so marvelous it's problematic. He never ceases to amaze me by what he says. Especially this, from the article:
"I think it'd be marvelous if the Senate were to pick up Paul Ryan's budget and to adopt it and pass it along to the president," he said this March.
Did he really think, if it passed, that Obama would sign it?
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Admittedly, I know little about Paul Ryan, but today I heard he sleeps in his congressional office. If that's true, that part .... there, that, that's pretty cool.
Otherwise, I don't know. Will be interesting. I don't see this swaying too many people.
I think that makes him sound kind of crazy and obsessive. He has a family with kids... why don't they live in Washington so he can live at least a little bit like a normal human being?? Seems odd to me. Unless he's divorced and I missed that part. If so, well, it's still weird to sleep in your office as it doesn't lend to someone being well-rounded or anything, but it's better than him keeping his family in another state for years on end while he crashes in his desk.
I had a co-worker who slept in his office. He'd send us rambling emails at 3am and be all rumpled in the same clothes the following morning. He was crazy, so much so that another worker got a restraining order against him and he's no longer allowed to have student contact. He was union and they couldn't fire him, so they promoted him instead
Paul Ryan's record on social issues, particularly those that impact women and the lgbt community is alarming to me. Those are deal breakers for me. He wants to protect the rights that come from god and nature...ummmm whose god? And what about separation of church and state?
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Admittedly, I know little about Paul Ryan, but today I heard he sleeps in his congressional office. If that's true, that part .... there, that, that's pretty cool.
Otherwise, I don't know. Will be interesting. I don't see this swaying too many people.
I think that makes him sound kind of crazy and obsessive. He has a family with kids... why don't they live in Washington so he can live at least a little bit like a normal human being?? Seems odd to me. Unless he's divorced and I missed that part. If so, well, it's still weird to sleep in your office as it doesn't lend to someone being well-rounded or anything, but it's better than him keeping his family in another state for years on end while he crashes in his desk.
I had a co-worker who slept in his office. He'd send us rambling emails at 3am and be all rumpled in the same clothes the following morning. He was crazy, so much so that another worker got a restraining order against him and he's no longer allowed to have student contact. He was union and they couldn't fire him, so they promoted him instead
Paul Ryan's record on social issues, particularly those that impact women and the lgbt community is alarming to me. Those are deal breakers for me. He wants to protect the rights that come from god and nature...ummmm whose god? And what about separation of church and state?
imagine sarah palin with a penis.. that is paul ryan. he is very much more extreme then romney is.. really just backs the ideology of the tea party.. would be terrible for middle america if this team won.
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Wow. :fp:
First of all, it was an example. :fp: Second of all, taking that hard line a stand about a single vote when not taking the other circumstances surrounding any stance a politician takes is like the exmple I used of Obama is a murderer. He did sign off on the assasination of Bin Laden correct?
No.. You said that everyone takes all they can get. Don't think I said that there should be a limit on how much anyone has, just that some people are willin to help others out and some aren't.
It was about how you'd take whatever you could get and then there was some doomsday "one piece of food" scenario and then you bragging about having a two car garage and a pool.
I can draw you a pie chart if you want.
And it was an absurd one.
You've talked yourself into a corner.
You said you could find 50 news sources to contradict the facts in that article.
I told you to go find one. Just one source that said he didn't vote against repealing DADT.
Instead, you suggested that maybe he was protecting the baby deals the two times he voted on the DADT repeal (which was a stand-alone bill with no mention of baby seals), And you said that because you can't find a single article that says he didn't vote "no" on repealing DADT twice.
Wow...you really do hear what you want to hear. :fp:
No I haven't talked myself into a corner. Also, I think it''s quite funny that you keep bringing up the "baby seal" example I used when I never said this bill was coupled with something like that and you conveniently leave out the three other points I make in the same sentence. I think that's called "selective quotes" or "selective journalisn" quite like that webpage. You really are quite lost if you believe single votes by politicians are determined solely by them and don't follow other protocol and circumstance. Furthering that you keep avoiding the point I make about Obama being a murderer correct. I mean he signed the order to assasinate Bin Laden correct?
Comprehension fail.
You said that everyone takes everything they can get, I said that some just take what they need And help others who don't have what they need.
I sure never said anyone SHOULD do anything.
And "communist Russia?" you know the 90s like... Happened, right?
So you didn't read the article. Because it wasn't about a "single vote" but how he has 100% of the time voted against any and all glbt issues... Adoption, DADT, DOMA, hate crimes, ENDA, immigration, marriage equality and even anti-bullying. Over his 7 terms.
Well if you mean your desperate and rather pathetic attempt to change the subject to something else, then yes... I'm ignoring it.
Like I pointed about above, it's many issues... Over many years... And many votes. A "pattern," if you will.
I realize you're getting a juvenile kick out of telling me I'm an "alternative lifestyle" but that says more about you than anything else.
And calling The Advocate (a news magazine that been in print since the early 70s and has won a lot on journalism awards) an "alternative page" and comparing it to a nazi website shows how desperate you are to make your "points."
Ryan also supported a highly controversial bill that Democrats nicknamed the "Let Women Die Act," which would have allowed hospitals to refuse to provide a woman emergency abortion care, even if her life is on the line.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/11/a-risky-rationale-behind-romneys-choice-of-ryan/
There is simply no refuting the argument that Paul Ryan has done everything within his power to oppress the GL community. Facts are facts. In all that silly arguing, nobody posted anything to the contrary. This man is a dangerous extremist. And his viewpoints are not nuanced. He has laid it out there for all to see (which is admirable in a way, especially compared to his running mate :? ).
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"Mitt Romney requested "several" years of tax returns from his potential running mates, a senior adviser to the candidate said Saturday, suggesting that those considered for the ticket may have been required to reveal more financial documents than the candidate himself."
So, he's a hypocrite because this may have happend and it MAY mean they would be required to reveal more? Seems a little presumptions. But then again, this is what politics in general has become. And obama is the new leader of this absurdity.
I guess since I will never have the right candidate all on one, I'm going to try and balance my voting so I get it all from different candidates (pres & congress). It might be the only way to try and get balance, though I may also get a government that accomplishes nothing!
That's one reason. His health care policy is another. The fact that he rails against outsourcing while making a fortune doing it is another.
Speaking of which...is anyone else's gaydar picking up on Mr. Ryan?
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We're waist deep in a recession and it's getting worse by the month. "Let's get it on?" This isn't the Super Bowl. Our political discourse fucking sucks.
Yep. It's always the ones that yell the loudest that end up in a motel room with a male stripper.
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there is so much on this ryan guy that obama can make an issue of that i think that romney just sunk his own ship.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
romney now sees ryan's budget as problematic...
come on mitt, you picked the guy with the budget, now own it!!
Mitt Romney: Paul Ryan Budget Is Not His, Candidate 'Putting Together His Own'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/1 ... 67765.html
Within minutes of tapping Paul Ryan as his vice presidential nominee, presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney was distancing himself from the congressman's controversial budget, which includes steep cuts to government programs and changing Medicare into a voucher-like program.
The Romney campaign sent out talking points on Saturday that made the case that he was his own man on matters of Medicare and Social Security and that he wouldn't be tied to a document he insisted he'd sign into law and once called "marvelous."
The main talking points are below:
Questions and Answers About The Romney/Ryan Ticket:
1) Does this mean Mitt Romney is adopting the Paul Ryan plan?
· Gov. Romney applauds Paul Ryan for going in the right direction with his budget, and as president he will be putting together his own plan for cutting the deficit and putting the budget on a path to balance.
· Romney's administration will go through the budget line by line and ask two questions: Can we afford it? And, if not, should we borrow money from China to pay for it?
· Mitt Romney will start with the easiest cut of all: Obamacare, a trillion-dollar entitlement we don't want and can't afford.
· Mitt Romney also laid out commonsense reforms that will make good on our promises to today's seniors and save Social Security and Medicare for future generations.
2) Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have different views on some policy areas -- like Medicare spending, entitlement reform, labor, etc. -- do you think those differences are going to hurt or help?
· Of course they aren't going to have the same view on every issue. But they both share the view that this election is a choice about two fundamentally different paths for this country. President Obama has taken America down a path of debt and decline. Romney and Ryan believe in a path for America that leads to more jobs, less debt and smaller government. So, while you might find an issue or two where they might not agree, they are in complete agreement on the direction that they want to lead America
Distancing himself from the Ryan budget may be an act of political necessity for Romney, as the proposals -- mainly those for entitlement programs -- have proven unpopular in various congressional district races and public opinion polls.
But it won't be easy, as Romney is on record praising the Ryan budget on multiple occasions.
"I think it'd be marvelous if the Senate were to pick up Paul Ryan's budget and to adopt it and pass it along to the president," he said this March.
Elsewhere, he added: "I spent a good deal of time with Congressman Ryan. When his plan came out, I applauded it as an important step," he said. "We're going to have to make changes like the ones Paul Ryan proposed."
In a Fox News Sunday interview in December 2011, meanwhile, Romney was asked about the Ryan budget as if it were his own plan and responded by arguing the merits of Ryan's approach.
And as pointed out by the Obama campaign, Romney said in an interview with a Milwaukee radio station in March 2012 that he and Ryan had been working "over the last several months" in collaboration on plans "for a tax policy and spending, as well as Medicare reform." Ryan's "proposals and the ones I’ve outlined in my campaign are very much on the same page," Romney added.
Ryan, for his part, seemed to agree, telling CBS in March that Romney would enact the major parts of his budget as president.
"I'm not expecting everybody to enact every little piece of this," Ryan said. "But, yes, he -- and the other candidates running for president -- have embraced these kinds of reforms because we know it's the best way to save and strengthen the Medicare guarantee, save Medicaid."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"I think it'd be marvelous if the Senate were to pick up Paul Ryan's budget and to adopt it and pass it along to the president," he said this March.
Did he really think, if it passed, that Obama would sign it?
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Paul Ryan's record on social issues, particularly those that impact women and the lgbt community is alarming to me. Those are deal breakers for me. He wants to protect the rights that come from god and nature...ummmm whose god? And what about separation of church and state?
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imagine sarah palin with a penis.. that is paul ryan. he is very much more extreme then romney is.. really just backs the ideology of the tea party.. would be terrible for middle america if this team won.
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