what if this had been in America?

DS1119

JonnyPistachio wrote:

That is the whole point. Its a perfectly valid argument. Unless you are only talking about history of the world since the 1800's or the invention of MTV.

Gates did some good stuff...Bob Ross is also known worldwide for his 28 minute oil paintings!

...and with this...I officially have no idea what you're talking about? :?

When a major crisis hits the World...what's the first question....what's the Americans going to do?

DS1119

Who Princess wrote:

I'd say its our country's problem when U.S. manufacturers take jobs overseas so they can exploit working conditions in the Third World rather than keep their factories open in the good old US of A. I'd rather buy those "cheap products" that were made here, knowing that it was keeping other Americans employed. You'll keep a lot more US children in well-equipped schools if their parents have jobs.

And the work forces in this country won't work for those wages to create those products at the price point that the American public will pay. Would you pay $300 for those Nikes you own? Probably not. Let someone else do it if they are willing.

DS1119

hedonist wrote:

I consider it narcissism and a lack of humbleness, maybe even simple grace, when anyone insinuates (or comes right out and says) that this - or any other country for that matter - "dominates".

What does that even mean? Dominates how? What's the worth of some headlines that many don't give a shit about anyway? Have you seen OUR headlines? Kristen Stewart fucking her director, and the Elton John/Madonna hissy fits? Really?

I do love this country, its foundation, the opportunities it's afforded my family and, by extension, myself.

However, we too are prone to fucking up, being incredibly shallow. My recognizing that isn't tantamount to US-bashing. In fact, I hope we learn from our mistakes (big leap? who knows), but ignoring flaws does nothing to fix them.

Gossip pages are gossip pages. No offense but it is what it is. You do realize however that when US papers have those gossip stories...most papers across the world have those same headlines right?

Byrnzie

DS1119 wrote:

Where's all the Americans on the Finnish band boards?

You could ask the Leningrad Cowboys:

Byrnzie

DS1119 wrote:

When was the last time Finland or Iceland had the power to invade or bomb the shit out of anyone?

Finland defeated Russia in 1939. What makes you think they're a pushover?

Who Princess

DS1119 wrote:

Who Princess wrote:

I'd say its our country's problem when U.S. manufacturers take jobs overseas so they can exploit working conditions in the Third World rather than keep their factories open in the good old US of A. I'd rather buy those "cheap products" that were made here, knowing that it was keeping other Americans employed. You'll keep a lot more US children in well-equipped schools if their parents have jobs.

And the work forces in this country won't work for those wages to create those products at the price point that the American public will pay. Would you pay $300 for those Nikes you own? Probably not. Let someone else do it if they are willing.

Sure, workers in this country won't settle for $40 a week and unsafe factories. But I'll bet they'd take cuts in pay if it meant keeping factories in this country.

And I don't even know what Nikes cost, other than too damn much, because this old woman has never owned a pair. I know I've bought shoes that were made in China because it's pretty hard to avoid but I'm kinda past the stage in my life where I need a little swoosh mark on my shoes to be cool.

comebackgirl

DS1119 wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

Sure, if youd like. The US has had some notable contributions. I'd be interested in hearing who you consider the most influential.

The thing is, coding is all math. There'd be no computers without the contributions of the early mathematicians

I guess the automobile wouldn't have been invented without the creation of the wheel from the cavemen either. I guess American innovation should stop and just pay homage to what has already been created? I'm sure when Pythagoras was carving out his theories in rock he envisioned the iPod or televison right?

Well we need physics to create cars...so no, cars would not exist without the early mathematicians, nor would the iPod if we didn't have the coding necessary to create technology. Who said American innovation should stop? :? I'm responding to your original post - try to stay on topic

Who Princess

DS1119 wrote:

Honestly...it's comments like these that let me know you do care. Made up our own sports? You do realize that the US in an overall majority could care less about the Olympics which the world deems "proper" sports such as you do and we are still leading in the medal count. I personsally couldn't care less but you do realize that right? And even if we slip to 10th in the medal count...we don't care.

I'm trying to figure out why you think Americans don't care about the Olympics. People have been talking about it everywhere I go.

hedonist

DS...for what it's worth, your points (some of which I do agree with - in theory) might be taken more seriously, constructively, if you weren't -ing all over the place.

JonnyPistachio

Who Princess wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Honestly...it's comments like these that let me know you do care. Made up our own sports? You do realize that the US in an overall majority could care less about the Olympics which the world deems "proper" sports such as you do and we are still leading in the medal count. I personsally couldn't care less but you do realize that right? And even if we slip to 10th in the medal count...we don't care.

I'm trying to figure out why you think Americans don't care about the Olympics. People have been talking about it everywhere I go.

I was thinking the same thing. I cant escape it actually.

Godfather.

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Who Princess wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Honestly...it's comments like these that let me know you do care. Made up our own sports? You do realize that the US in an overall majority could care less about the Olympics which the world deems "proper" sports such as you do and we are still leading in the medal count. I personsally couldn't care less but you do realize that right? And even if we slip to 10th in the medal count...we don't care.

I'm trying to figure out why you think Americans don't care about the Olympics. People have been talking about it everywhere I go.

I was thinking the same thing. I cant escape it actually.

my wife is glued to the t.v set everyday after work and inbetween airing she's on the friggin computer looking for anything she may have missed........ it's messing up my history channel time :shock:
but on a good note the BMX racing is fun to watch

Godfather.

Godfather.

also...you guy's from austrilla and new zeland watch your BMX'ers tonight at 7:00pm pst on NBC
those guy's are freakin fast and tallented..they should get a metal but I believe the gold will go to connor fields of the usa

Godfather.

comebackgirl

Godfather. wrote:

Who Princess wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Honestly...it's comments like these that let me know you do care. Made up our own sports? You do realize that the US in an overall majority could care less about the Olympics which the world deems "proper" sports such as you do and we are still leading in the medal count. I personsally couldn't care less but you do realize that right? And even if we slip to 10th in the medal count...we don't care.

I'm trying to figure out why you think Americans don't care about the Olympics. People have been talking about it everywhere I go.

my wife is glued to the t.v set everyday after work and inbetween airing she's on the friggin computer looking for anything she may have missed........ it's messing up my history channel time :shock:
but on a good note the BMX racing is fun to watch

Godfather.

Everyone was watching the games online at work yesterday. I am not a sports fan at all (well aside from watching Beckham ) but I love the Olympics. So yeah...anecdotal, but I think it's safe to say there are enough Americans who care about the Olympics.

DS1119

Byrnzie wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

When was the last time Finland or Iceland had the power to invade or bomb the shit out of anyone?

Finland defeated Russia in 1939. What makes you think they're a pushover?

This made me laugh out loud so hard.

DS1119

Who Princess wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Who Princess wrote:

I'd say its our country's problem when U.S. manufacturers take jobs overseas so they can exploit working conditions in the Third World rather than keep their factories open in the good old US of A. I'd rather buy those "cheap products" that were made here, knowing that it was keeping other Americans employed. You'll keep a lot more US children in well-equipped schools if their parents have jobs.

And the work forces in this country won't work for those wages to create those products at the price point that the American public will pay. Would you pay $300 for those Nikes you own? Probably not. Let someone else do it if they are willing.

Sure, workers in this country won't settle for $40 a week and unsafe factories. But I'll bet they'd take cuts in pay if it meant keeping factories in this country.

And I don't even know what Nikes cost, other than too damn much, because this old woman has never owned a pair. I know I've bought shoes that were made in China because it's pretty hard to avoid but I'm kinda past the stage in my life where I need a little swoosh mark on my shoes to be cool.

But you're not past the stage in life to stop buying products manufactured in China even though you feel it's so wrong? I think they call that judging. Some may actually say that's hypocritical. Sorry, but it is.

DS1119

comebackgirl wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

Sure, if youd like. The US has had some notable contributions. I'd be interested in hearing who you consider the most influential.

The thing is, coding is all math. There'd be no computers without the contributions of the early mathematicians

I guess the automobile wouldn't have been invented without the creation of the wheel from the cavemen either. I guess American innovation should stop and just pay homage to what has already been created? I'm sure when Pythagoras was carving out his theories in rock he envisioned the iPod or televison right?

Well we need physics to create cars...so no, cars would not exist without the early mathematicians, nor would the iPod if we didn't have the coding necessary to create technology. Who said American innovation should stop? :? I'm responding to your original post - try to stay on topic

And again, the US wasn't even a thought when those "great thinkers" existed. I guess they just didn't have the smarts to actually create these products of every day society or else their native countries would be dominant today. I guess the real genius exists in saying a circle compromises of 360 degrees vs. flying to the Moon. I'd like to see all of those "great thinkers" do that!

DS1119

Who Princess wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Honestly...it's comments like these that let me know you do care. Made up our own sports? You do realize that the US in an overall majority could care less about the Olympics which the world deems "proper" sports such as you do and we are still leading in the medal count. I personsally couldn't care less but you do realize that right? And even if we slip to 10th in the medal count...we don't care.

I'm trying to figure out why you think Americans don't care about the Olympics. People have been talking about it everywhere I go.

Look at the front page of your sports page tomorrow. I don;t know where you live but I guarantee your closest MLB and NFL team is headlined way before the olympic story of the day.

DS1119

hedonist wrote:

DS...for what it's worth, your points (some of which I do agree with - in theory) might be taken more seriously, constructively, if you weren't -ing all over the place.

Just trying to keep it light.

DS1119

comebackgirl wrote:

my wife is glued to the t.v set everyday after work and inbetween airing she's on the friggin computer looking for anything she may have missed........ it's messing up my history channel time :shock:
but on a good note the BMX racing is fun to watch

Godfather.

Everyone was watching the games online at work yesterday. I am not a sports fan at all (well aside from watching Beckham ) but I love the Olympics. So yeah...anecdotal, but I think it's safe to say there are enough Americans who care about the Olympics.[/quote]


...and I would say that anyone in the US that actually does watch the Olympics, it's just for national pride. Other than Michael Phelps...can you name an athlete? Do you know what events there are in the olympics actually? There's like 9,000 of them and 8992 of them are pretty much bar games! I saw tonight walking! Walking is an event? Walking?

comebackgirl

DS1119 wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

Well we need physics to create cars...so no, cars would not exist without the early mathematicians, nor would the iPod if we didn't have the coding necessary to create technology. Who said American innovation should stop? :? I'm responding to your original post - try to stay on topic

And again, the US wasn't even a thought when those "great thinkers" existed.

This is kind of the point Go back to your original statement and then read this last response. Thank your for responding to your own statement so well :thumbup: