what if this had been in America?

DS1119

dunkman wrote:

you're just trying to provoke someone so they can rise to your bait.... oh and you dropped your hat.



I'll pick it up for you seeing as you'll be morbidly obese .... just going along with your own stereotype there bud... you think US rules the world and we all give a fuck about you, whereas we all just understand that you're fat loudmouths who think a Brazilian is an actual number.

Thank you for picking up my hat! Was that made in China or Taiwan? Doesn't matter really. Open your paper this morning...how many headlines does it take to read the words "United States"...I guess three max.

DS1119

hedonist wrote:

dunkman wrote:

in fact someone needs to look up the word "humility" in a dictionary.

Bravo.

Narcissism sucks, dunk.

I really don't understand why people think it's narcissism whenfacts are just being stated. I really don't. :? All I ever read in this forum is US bashing...which is kind of funny to me...if this country is so irrelevant worldwide and it's so bad...why does evreyone keep talking about it? :? :fp: Where's all the threads about Russia...Iceland...Finland...Iran? :?

DS1119

comebackgirl wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

I would say in our short history of just over 200 years the US has had the biggest influence on the World in history actually. From a series of colonies to dominant World power in such a short time. I wonder what the people in Greenland have been up to in all this time?

This just made me giggle. Particularly since Pythagoras, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Archimedes, Euclid, Dante, Michelangelo, Da Vinci, Shakespeare and Darwin were all...you know...American

Shall I list all the great US thinkers, artists and scientists as well? And considering the US wasn't a "discovered" land at the time of those that you listed for the exception of one (I believe Darwin would be the only one)is it even a valid argument? I mean in overall impact, where would you place Bill Gates? He has probably changed the World as much as anyone you listed. But then again...the US has a short history so far...people are too close to realize the impact for the most part.

DS1119

Zoso wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

I would say in our short history of just over 200 years the US has had the biggest influence on the World in history actually. From a series of colonies to dominant World power in such a short time. I wonder what the people in Greenland have been up to in all this time?

This just made me giggle. Particularly since Pythagoras, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Archimedes, Euclid, Dante, Michelangelo, Da Vinci, Shakespeare and Darwin were all...you know...American [/quote

america has given the wolrd a cheeseburger.. that's about it ; ) oh wait an aussie started mcdonald's

Wow. I suggest you do some searching. :fp:

Byrnzie

DS1119 wrote:

All I ever read in this forum is US bashing...which is kind of funny to me...if this country is so irrelevant worldwide and it's so bad...why does evreyone keep talking about it? :? :fp: Where's all the threads about Russia...Iceland...Finland...Iran? :?

Maybe because most countries don't spend all their time fucking with everybody else.

Though as for the U.S being irrelevant and bad, where did you get that from? Nobody here said America was irrelevant. As for it being bad, why does the fact that your government is populated by crooks and warmongers mean that America is bad?

DS1119

Byrnzie wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

All I ever read in this forum is US bashing...which is kind of funny to me...if this country is so irrelevant worldwide and it's so bad...why does evreyone keep talking about it? :? :fp: Where's all the threads about Russia...Iceland...Finland...Iran? :?

Maybe because most countries don't spend all their time fucking with everybody else.

Though as for the U.S being irrelevant and bad, where did you get that from? Nobody here said America was irrelevant. As for it being bad, why does the fact that your government is populated by crooks and warmongers mean that America is bad?

This just makes me laugh. Our government populated by crooks and warmongers. EVERY government has those issues...it's just the rest of the World reads about ours! For the most of the rest of the World if anything like that was said they would be shot. ...but by legal guns.

eMMI

DS1119 wrote:

All I ever read in this forum is US bashing...which is kind of funny to me...if this country is so irrelevant worldwide and it's so bad...why does evreyone keep talking about it? :? :fp: Where's all the threads about Russia...Iceland...Finland...Iran? :?

Did you ever think that maybe so many threads on this forum are about America, because this is the online forum of an American band, with a large American fanbase?

You can't really think that this board is an accurate representation of United States' relevance all over the world.

DS1119 wrote:

I really don't understand why people think it's narcissism whenfacts are just being stated. I really don't. :?

Ok, I'm ready for the facts now. (Must have missed them before.) What are the facts stated here?

Byrnzie

DS1119 wrote:

This just makes me laugh. Our government populated by crooks and warmongers. EVERY government has those issues...it's just the rest of the World reads about ours! For the most of the rest of the World if anything like that was said they would be shot. ...but by legal guns.

When was the last time Finland or Iceland invaded anyone, or bombed the shit out of anyone?

And you really think America has more freedom than any other country? What a crock.

Byrnzie

DS1119 wrote:

I really don't understand why people think it's narcissism whenfacts are just being stated. I really don't. :? All I ever read in this forum is US bashing...which is kind of funny to me...if this country is so irrelevant worldwide and it's so bad...why does evreyone keep talking about it? :? :fp: Where's all the threads about Russia...Iceland...Finland...Iran? :?

Pearl Jam are an American band, are they not? The Moving Train is populated mostly by Americans talking about America. The rest of us just like to chime in for the fun of it.

comebackgirl

DS1119 wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

I would say in our short history of just over 200 years the US has had the biggest influence on the World in history actually. From a series of colonies to dominant World power in such a short time. I wonder what the people in Greenland have been up to in all this time?

This just made me giggle. Particularly since Pythagoras, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Archimedes, Euclid, Dante, Michelangelo, Da Vinci, Shakespeare and Darwin were all...you know...American

Shall I list all the great US thinkers, artists and scientists as well? And considering the US wasn't a "discovered" land at the time of those that you listed for the exception of one (I believe Darwin would be the only one)is it even a valid argument? I mean in overall impact, where would you place Bill Gates? He has probably changed the World as much as anyone you listed. But then again...the US has a short history so far...people are too close to realize the impact for the most part.

Sure, if youd like. The US has had some notable contributions. I'd be interested in hearing who you consider the most influential.

The thing is, coding is all math. There'd be no computers without the contributions of the early mathematicians

dunkman

DS1119 wrote:

Thank you for picking up my hat! Was that made in China or Taiwan? Doesn't matter really. Open your paper this morning...how many headlines does it take to read the words "United States"...I guess three max.

three max eh? wow, cos the New York Times mentions Israel, Iran and London on it's FRONT COVER.

Sorry to burst your bubble but British newspapers tend to focus on EU countries & The Middle East before it mentions the US... unless of course some fucking nutcake has shot 17 people because someone said McDonalds was Australian... then you get a mention.

dunkman

DS1119 wrote:

hedonist wrote:

dunkman wrote:

in fact someone needs to look up the word "humility" in a dictionary.

Bravo.

Narcissism sucks, dunk.

I really don't understand why people think it's narcissism whenfacts are just being stated. I really don't. :? All I ever read in this forum is US bashing...which is kind of funny to me...if this country is so irrelevant worldwide and it's so bad...why does evreyone keep talking about it? :? :fp: Where's all the threads about Russia...Iceland...Finland...Iran? :?

everyone doesnt keep talking about it... unless its about a war you've started, a president you've elected through nepotism and has to have his shoes tied for him or your antiquarian guns laws.... oh but we do like your movies... other than that the US doesnt enter the consciousness of anyone I chat with.

We dont care about your sports.. mainly because you were all so shit at proper sports so you made up your own and then call it WORLD championships, talk about stroking your own boner... we dont care about Snookie ( I literally have no idea who/what/if that is something/someone? ) .. dont care about those weird baby pageants things you have... and your chocolate is just fucking awful.

JonnyPistachio

DS1119 wrote:

hedonist wrote:

dunkman wrote:

in fact someone needs to look up the word "humility" in a dictionary.

Bravo.

Narcissism sucks, dunk.

I really don't understand why people think it's narcissism whenfacts are just being stated. I really don't. :? All I ever read in this forum is US bashing...which is kind of funny to me...if this country is so irrelevant worldwide and it's so bad...why does evreyone keep talking about it? :? :fp: Where's all the threads about Russia...Iceland...Finland...Iran? :?

:fp:

Your claim that US dominates the world when it comes to culture surely is NOT any kind of fact. The idea that YOU think everyone is talking about the USA ALL the TIME, is certainly not fact. Its your perception, that's all. Its what you've been raised to believe.

DS1119 wrote:

Shall I list all the great US thinkers, artists and scientists as well? And considering the US wasn't a "discovered" land at the time of those that you listed for the exception of one (I believe Darwin would be the only one)is it even a valid argument? I mean in overall impact, where would you place Bill Gates? He has probably changed the World as much as anyone you listed. But then again...the US has a short history so far...people are too close to realize the impact for the most part.

That is the whole point. Its a perfectly valid argument. Unless you are only talking about history of the world since the 1800's or the invention of MTV.

Gates did some good stuff...Bob Ross is also known worldwide for his 28 minute oil paintings!

hedonist

DS1119 wrote:

hedonist wrote:

dunkman wrote:

in fact someone needs to look up the word "humility" in a dictionary.

Bravo.

Narcissism sucks, dunk.

I really don't understand why people think it's narcissism whenfacts are just being stated. I really don't. :? All I ever read in this forum is US bashing...which is kind of funny to me...if this country is so irrelevant worldwide and it's so bad...why does evreyone keep talking about it? :? :fp: Where's all the threads about Russia...Iceland...Finland...Iran? :?

I consider it narcissism and a lack of humbleness, maybe even simple grace, when anyone insinuates (or comes right out and says) that this - or any other country for that matter - "dominates".

What does that even mean? Dominates how? What's the worth of some headlines that many don't give a shit about anyway? Have you seen OUR headlines? Kristen Stewart fucking her director, and the Elton John/Madonna hissy fits? Really?

I do love this country, its foundation, the opportunities it's afforded my family and, by extension, myself.

However, we too are prone to fucking up, being incredibly shallow. My recognizing that isn't tantamount to US-bashing. In fact, I hope we learn from our mistakes (big leap? who knows), but ignoring flaws does nothing to fix them.

Who Princess

DS1119 wrote:

Who Princess wrote:

I suppose it wouldn't occur to you that children working long hours in hazardous conditions for substandard wages don't have the option of other work?

If you don't care about that part of it, you could at least concern yourself with the fact that American manufacturing jobs have been moving overseas, mostly to Asia and Latin America, because of the cheap labor. I don't mean "cheaper than union wages." I mean working conditions that don't provide a living wage.

But apparently you like having your apparel made in China, Pakistan or Peru (check your closet) since it allows us to distribute our spiffy American culture of blue jeans and Nikes to the rest of the world.

You hit the nail on the head when you said "children working long hours in hazardous conditions for substandard wages don't have the option of other work?". That's that countries issue...not ours. I for one hope the cheap products keep coming to us so we can keep the US children in school.

I'd say its our country's problem when U.S. manufacturers take jobs overseas so they can exploit working conditions in the Third World rather than keep their factories open in the good old US of A. I'd rather buy those "cheap products" that were made here, knowing that it was keeping other Americans employed. You'll keep a lot more US children in well-equipped schools if their parents have jobs.

DS1119

Byrnzie wrote:

When was the last time Finland or Iceland invaded anyone, or bombed the shit out of anyone?

When was the last time Finland or Iceland had the power to invade or bomb the shit out of anyone? I do remember reading some stories in some books about some gnarley pirates from their countries a few centuries back. Something tells me if they had the firepower then they would have used it.

DS1119

Byrnzie wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

I really don't understand why people think it's narcissism whenfacts are just being stated. I really don't. :? All I ever read in this forum is US bashing...which is kind of funny to me...if this country is so irrelevant worldwide and it's so bad...why does evreyone keep talking about it? :? :fp: Where's all the threads about Russia...Iceland...Finland...Iran? :?

Pearl Jam are an American band, are they not? The Moving Train is populated mostly by Americans talking about America. The rest of us just like to chime in for the fun of it.

Where's all the Americans on the Finnish band boards?

DS1119

comebackgirl wrote:

Sure, if youd like. The US has had some notable contributions. I'd be interested in hearing who you consider the most influential.

The thing is, coding is all math. There'd be no computers without the contributions of the early mathematicians

I guess the automobile wouldn't have been invented without the creation of the wheel from the cavemen either. I guess American innovation should stop and just pay homage to what has already been created? I'm sure when Pythagoras was carving out his theories in rock he envisioned the iPod or televison right?

DS1119

dunkman wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Thank you for picking up my hat! Was that made in China or Taiwan? Doesn't matter really. Open your paper this morning...how many headlines does it take to read the words "United States"...I guess three max.

three max eh? wow, cos the New York Times mentions Israel, Iran and London on it's FRONT COVER.

Sorry to burst your bubble but British newspapers tend to focus on EU countries & The Middle East before it mentions the US... unless of course some fucking nutcake has shot 17 people because someone said McDonalds was Australian... then you get a mention.

A mention? I

DS1119

dunkman wrote:

everyone doesnt keep talking about it... unless its about a war you've started, a president you've elected through nepotism and has to have his shoes tied for him or your antiquarian guns laws.... oh but we do like your movies... other than that the US doesnt enter the consciousness of anyone I chat with.

We dont care about your sports.. mainly because you were all so shit at proper sports so you made up your own and then call it WORLD championships, talk about stroking your own boner... we dont care about Snookie ( I literally have no idea who/what/if that is something/someone? ) .. dont care about those weird baby pageants things you have... and your chocolate is just fucking awful.

Honestly...it's comments like these that let me know you do care. Made up our own sports? You do realize that the US in an overall majority could care less about the Olympics which the world deems "proper" sports such as you do and we are still leading in the medal count. I personsally couldn't care less but you do realize that right? And even if we slip to 10th in the medal count...we don't care.