Thank you for picking up my hat! Was that made in China or Taiwan? Doesn't matter really. Open your paper this morning...how many headlines does it take to read the words "United States"...I guess three max.
three max eh? wow, cos the New York Times mentions Israel, Iran and London on it's FRONT COVER.
Sorry to burst your bubble but British newspapers tend to focus on EU countries & The Middle East before it mentions the US... unless of course some fucking nutcake has shot 17 people because someone said McDonalds was Australian... then you get a mention.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
in fact someone needs to look up the word "humility" in a dictionary.
Bravo.
Narcissism sucks, dunk.
I really don't understand why people think it's narcissism whenfacts are just being stated. I really don't. :? All I ever read in this forum is US bashing...which is kind of funny to me...if this country is so irrelevant worldwide and it's so bad...why does evreyone keep talking about it? :? :fp: Where's all the threads about Russia...Iceland...Finland...Iran? :?
everyone doesnt keep talking about it... unless its about a war you've started, a president you've elected through nepotism and has to have his shoes tied for him or your antiquarian guns laws.... oh but we do like your movies... other than that the US doesnt enter the consciousness of anyone I chat with.
We dont care about your sports.. mainly because you were all so shit at proper sports so you made up your own and then call it WORLD championships, talk about stroking your own boner... we dont care about Snookie ( I literally have no idea who/what/if that is something/someone? ) .. dont care about those weird baby pageants things you have... and your chocolate is just fucking awful.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
in fact someone needs to look up the word "humility" in a dictionary.
Bravo.
Narcissism sucks, dunk.
I really don't understand why people think it's narcissism whenfacts are just being stated. I really don't. :? All I ever read in this forum is US bashing...which is kind of funny to me...if this country is so irrelevant worldwide and it's so bad...why does evreyone keep talking about it? :? :fp: Where's all the threads about Russia...Iceland...Finland...Iran? :?
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Your claim that US dominates the world when it comes to culture surely is NOT any kind of fact. The idea that YOU think everyone is talking about the USA ALL the TIME, is certainly not fact. Its your perception, that's all. Its what you've been raised to believe.
Shall I list all the great US thinkers, artists and scientists as well? And considering the US wasn't a "discovered" land at the time of those that you listed for the exception of one (I believe Darwin would be the only one)is it even a valid argument? I mean in overall impact, where would you place Bill Gates? He has probably changed the World as much as anyone you listed. But then again...the US has a short history so far...people are too close to realize the impact for the most part.
That is the whole point. Its a perfectly valid argument. Unless you are only talking about history of the world since the 1800's or the invention of MTV.
Gates did some good stuff...Bob Ross is also known worldwide for his 28 minute oil paintings!
in fact someone needs to look up the word "humility" in a dictionary.
Bravo.
Narcissism sucks, dunk.
I really don't understand why people think it's narcissism whenfacts are just being stated. I really don't. :? All I ever read in this forum is US bashing...which is kind of funny to me...if this country is so irrelevant worldwide and it's so bad...why does evreyone keep talking about it? :? :fp: Where's all the threads about Russia...Iceland...Finland...Iran? :?
I consider it narcissism and a lack of humbleness, maybe even simple grace, when anyone insinuates (or comes right out and says) that this - or any other country for that matter - "dominates".
What does that even mean? Dominates how? What's the worth of some headlines that many don't give a shit about anyway? Have you seen OUR headlines? Kristen Stewart fucking her director, and the Elton John/Madonna hissy fits? Really?
I do love this country, its foundation, the opportunities it's afforded my family and, by extension, myself.
However, we too are prone to fucking up, being incredibly shallow. My recognizing that isn't tantamount to US-bashing. In fact, I hope we learn from our mistakes (big leap? who knows), but ignoring flaws does nothing to fix them.
I suppose it wouldn't occur to you that children working long hours in hazardous conditions for substandard wages don't have the option of other work?
If you don't care about that part of it, you could at least concern yourself with the fact that American manufacturing jobs have been moving overseas, mostly to Asia and Latin America, because of the cheap labor. I don't mean "cheaper than union wages." I mean working conditions that don't provide a living wage.
But apparently you like having your apparel made in China, Pakistan or Peru (check your closet) since it allows us to distribute our spiffy American culture of blue jeans and Nikes to the rest of the world.
You hit the nail on the head when you said "children working long hours in hazardous conditions for substandard wages don't have the option of other work?". That's that countries issue...not ours. I for one hope the cheap products keep coming to us so we can keep the US children in school.
I'd say its our country's problem when U.S. manufacturers take jobs overseas so they can exploit working conditions in the Third World rather than keep their factories open in the good old US of A. I'd rather buy those "cheap products" that were made here, knowing that it was keeping other Americans employed. You'll keep a lot more US children in well-equipped schools if their parents have jobs.
When was the last time Finland or Iceland invaded anyone, or bombed the shit out of anyone?
When was the last time Finland or Iceland had the power to invade or bomb the shit out of anyone? I do remember reading some stories in some books about some gnarley pirates from their countries a few centuries back. Something tells me if they had the firepower then they would have used it.
I really don't understand why people think it's narcissism whenfacts are just being stated. I really don't. :? All I ever read in this forum is US bashing...which is kind of funny to me...if this country is so irrelevant worldwide and it's so bad...why does evreyone keep talking about it? :? :fp: Where's all the threads about Russia...Iceland...Finland...Iran? :?
Pearl Jam are an American band, are they not? The Moving Train is populated mostly by Americans talking about America. The rest of us just like to chime in for the fun of it.
Where's all the Americans on the Finnish band boards?
Sure, if youd like. The US has had some notable contributions. I'd be interested in hearing who you consider the most influential.
The thing is, coding is all math. There'd be no computers without the contributions of the early mathematicians
I guess the automobile wouldn't have been invented without the creation of the wheel from the cavemen either. I guess American innovation should stop and just pay homage to what has already been created? I'm sure when Pythagoras was carving out his theories in rock he envisioned the iPod or televison right?
Thank you for picking up my hat! Was that made in China or Taiwan? Doesn't matter really. Open your paper this morning...how many headlines does it take to read the words "United States"...I guess three max.
three max eh? wow, cos the New York Times mentions Israel, Iran and London on it's FRONT COVER.
Sorry to burst your bubble but British newspapers tend to focus on EU countries & The Middle East before it mentions the US... unless of course some fucking nutcake has shot 17 people because someone said McDonalds was Australian... then you get a mention.
everyone doesnt keep talking about it... unless its about a war you've started, a president you've elected through nepotism and has to have his shoes tied for him or your antiquarian guns laws.... oh but we do like your movies... other than that the US doesnt enter the consciousness of anyone I chat with.
We dont care about your sports.. mainly because you were all so shit at proper sports so you made up your own and then call it WORLD championships, talk about stroking your own boner... we dont care about Snookie ( I literally have no idea who/what/if that is something/someone? ) .. dont care about those weird baby pageants things you have... and your chocolate is just fucking awful.
Honestly...it's comments like these that let me know you do care. Made up our own sports? You do realize that the US in an overall majority could care less about the Olympics which the world deems "proper" sports such as you do and we are still leading in the medal count. I personsally couldn't care less but you do realize that right? And even if we slip to 10th in the medal count...we don't care.
That is the whole point. Its a perfectly valid argument. Unless you are only talking about history of the world since the 1800's or the invention of MTV.
Gates did some good stuff...Bob Ross is also known worldwide for his 28 minute oil paintings!
...and with this...I officially have no idea what you're talking about? :?
When a major crisis hits the World...what's the first question....what's the Americans going to do?
I'd say its our country's problem when U.S. manufacturers take jobs overseas so they can exploit working conditions in the Third World rather than keep their factories open in the good old US of A. I'd rather buy those "cheap products" that were made here, knowing that it was keeping other Americans employed. You'll keep a lot more US children in well-equipped schools if their parents have jobs.
And the work forces in this country won't work for those wages to create those products at the price point that the American public will pay. Would you pay $300 for those Nikes you own? Probably not. Let someone else do it if they are willing.
I consider it narcissism and a lack of humbleness, maybe even simple grace, when anyone insinuates (or comes right out and says) that this - or any other country for that matter - "dominates".
What does that even mean? Dominates how? What's the worth of some headlines that many don't give a shit about anyway? Have you seen OUR headlines? Kristen Stewart fucking her director, and the Elton John/Madonna hissy fits? Really?
I do love this country, its foundation, the opportunities it's afforded my family and, by extension, myself.
However, we too are prone to fucking up, being incredibly shallow. My recognizing that isn't tantamount to US-bashing. In fact, I hope we learn from our mistakes (big leap? who knows), but ignoring flaws does nothing to fix them.
Gossip pages are gossip pages. No offense but it is what it is. You do realize however that when US papers have those gossip stories...most papers across the world have those same headlines right?
I'd say its our country's problem when U.S. manufacturers take jobs overseas so they can exploit working conditions in the Third World rather than keep their factories open in the good old US of A. I'd rather buy those "cheap products" that were made here, knowing that it was keeping other Americans employed. You'll keep a lot more US children in well-equipped schools if their parents have jobs.
And the work forces in this country won't work for those wages to create those products at the price point that the American public will pay. Would you pay $300 for those Nikes you own? Probably not. Let someone else do it if they are willing.
Sure, workers in this country won't settle for $40 a week and unsafe factories. But I'll bet they'd take cuts in pay if it meant keeping factories in this country.
And I don't even know what Nikes cost, other than too damn much, because this old woman has never owned a pair. I know I've bought shoes that were made in China because it's pretty hard to avoid but I'm kinda past the stage in my life where I need a little swoosh mark on my shoes to be cool.
Sure, if youd like. The US has had some notable contributions. I'd be interested in hearing who you consider the most influential.
The thing is, coding is all math. There'd be no computers without the contributions of the early mathematicians
I guess the automobile wouldn't have been invented without the creation of the wheel from the cavemen either. I guess American innovation should stop and just pay homage to what has already been created? I'm sure when Pythagoras was carving out his theories in rock he envisioned the iPod or televison right?
Well we need physics to create cars...so no, cars would not exist without the early mathematicians, nor would the iPod if we didn't have the coding necessary to create technology. Who said American innovation should stop? :? I'm responding to your original post - try to stay on topic
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Honestly...it's comments like these that let me know you do care. Made up our own sports? You do realize that the US in an overall majority could care less about the Olympics which the world deems "proper" sports such as you do and we are still leading in the medal count. I personsally couldn't care less but you do realize that right? And even if we slip to 10th in the medal count...we don't care.
I'm trying to figure out why you think Americans don't care about the Olympics. People have been talking about it everywhere I go.
DS...for what it's worth, your points (some of which I do agree with - in theory) might be taken more seriously, constructively, if you weren't -ing all over the place.
Honestly...it's comments like these that let me know you do care. Made up our own sports? You do realize that the US in an overall majority could care less about the Olympics which the world deems "proper" sports such as you do and we are still leading in the medal count. I personsally couldn't care less but you do realize that right? And even if we slip to 10th in the medal count...we don't care.
I'm trying to figure out why you think Americans don't care about the Olympics. People have been talking about it everywhere I go.
I was thinking the same thing. I cant escape it actually.
Honestly...it's comments like these that let me know you do care. Made up our own sports? You do realize that the US in an overall majority could care less about the Olympics which the world deems "proper" sports such as you do and we are still leading in the medal count. I personsally couldn't care less but you do realize that right? And even if we slip to 10th in the medal count...we don't care.
I'm trying to figure out why you think Americans don't care about the Olympics. People have been talking about it everywhere I go.
I was thinking the same thing. I cant escape it actually.
my wife is glued to the t.v set everyday after work and inbetween airing she's on the friggin computer looking for anything she may have missed........ it's messing up my history channel time :shock:
but on a good note the BMX racing is fun to watch
also...you guy's from austrilla and new zeland watch your BMX'ers tonight at 7:00pm pst on NBC
those guy's are freakin fast and tallented..they should get a metal but I believe the gold will go to connor fields of the usa
Honestly...it's comments like these that let me know you do care. Made up our own sports? You do realize that the US in an overall majority could care less about the Olympics which the world deems "proper" sports such as you do and we are still leading in the medal count. I personsally couldn't care less but you do realize that right? And even if we slip to 10th in the medal count...we don't care.
I'm trying to figure out why you think Americans don't care about the Olympics. People have been talking about it everywhere I go.
my wife is glued to the t.v set everyday after work and inbetween airing she's on the friggin computer looking for anything she may have missed........ it's messing up my history channel time :shock:
but on a good note the BMX racing is fun to watch
Godfather.
Everyone was watching the games online at work yesterday. I am not a sports fan at all (well aside from watching Beckham ) but I love the Olympics. So yeah...anecdotal, but I think it's safe to say there are enough Americans who care about the Olympics.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
I'd say its our country's problem when U.S. manufacturers take jobs overseas so they can exploit working conditions in the Third World rather than keep their factories open in the good old US of A. I'd rather buy those "cheap products" that were made here, knowing that it was keeping other Americans employed. You'll keep a lot more US children in well-equipped schools if their parents have jobs.
And the work forces in this country won't work for those wages to create those products at the price point that the American public will pay. Would you pay $300 for those Nikes you own? Probably not. Let someone else do it if they are willing.
Sure, workers in this country won't settle for $40 a week and unsafe factories. But I'll bet they'd take cuts in pay if it meant keeping factories in this country.
And I don't even know what Nikes cost, other than too damn much, because this old woman has never owned a pair. I know I've bought shoes that were made in China because it's pretty hard to avoid but I'm kinda past the stage in my life where I need a little swoosh mark on my shoes to be cool.
But you're not past the stage in life to stop buying products manufactured in China even though you feel it's so wrong? I think they call that judging. Some may actually say that's hypocritical. Sorry, but it is.
Sure, if youd like. The US has had some notable contributions. I'd be interested in hearing who you consider the most influential.
The thing is, coding is all math. There'd be no computers without the contributions of the early mathematicians
I guess the automobile wouldn't have been invented without the creation of the wheel from the cavemen either. I guess American innovation should stop and just pay homage to what has already been created? I'm sure when Pythagoras was carving out his theories in rock he envisioned the iPod or televison right?
Well we need physics to create cars...so no, cars would not exist without the early mathematicians, nor would the iPod if we didn't have the coding necessary to create technology. Who said American innovation should stop? :? I'm responding to your original post - try to stay on topic
And again, the US wasn't even a thought when those "great thinkers" existed. I guess they just didn't have the smarts to actually create these products of every day society or else their native countries would be dominant today. I guess the real genius exists in saying a circle compromises of 360 degrees vs. flying to the Moon. I'd like to see all of those "great thinkers" do that!
Honestly...it's comments like these that let me know you do care. Made up our own sports? You do realize that the US in an overall majority could care less about the Olympics which the world deems "proper" sports such as you do and we are still leading in the medal count. I personsally couldn't care less but you do realize that right? And even if we slip to 10th in the medal count...we don't care.
I'm trying to figure out why you think Americans don't care about the Olympics. People have been talking about it everywhere I go.
Look at the front page of your sports page tomorrow. I don;t know where you live but I guarantee your closest MLB and NFL team is headlined way before the olympic story of the day.
DS...for what it's worth, your points (some of which I do agree with - in theory) might be taken more seriously, constructively, if you weren't -ing all over the place.
my wife is glued to the t.v set everyday after work and inbetween airing she's on the friggin computer looking for anything she may have missed........ it's messing up my history channel time :shock:
but on a good note the BMX racing is fun to watch
Godfather.
Everyone was watching the games online at work yesterday. I am not a sports fan at all (well aside from watching Beckham ) but I love the Olympics. So yeah...anecdotal, but I think it's safe to say there are enough Americans who care about the Olympics.[/quote]
...and I would say that anyone in the US that actually does watch the Olympics, it's just for national pride. Other than Michael Phelps...can you name an athlete? Do you know what events there are in the olympics actually? There's like 9,000 of them and 8992 of them are pretty much bar games! I saw tonight walking! Walking is an event? Walking?
Well we need physics to create cars...so no, cars would not exist without the early mathematicians, nor would the iPod if we didn't have the coding necessary to create technology. Who said American innovation should stop? :? I'm responding to your original post - try to stay on topic
And again, the US wasn't even a thought when those "great thinkers" existed.
This is kind of the point Go back to your original statement and then read this last response. Thank your for responding to your own statement so well :thumbup:
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
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three max eh? wow, cos the New York Times mentions Israel, Iran and London on it's FRONT COVER.
Sorry to burst your bubble but British newspapers tend to focus on EU countries & The Middle East before it mentions the US... unless of course some fucking nutcake has shot 17 people because someone said McDonalds was Australian... then you get a mention.
everyone doesnt keep talking about it... unless its about a war you've started, a president you've elected through nepotism and has to have his shoes tied for him or your antiquarian guns laws.... oh but we do like your movies... other than that the US doesnt enter the consciousness of anyone I chat with.
We dont care about your sports.. mainly because you were all so shit at proper sports so you made up your own and then call it WORLD championships, talk about stroking your own boner... we dont care about Snookie ( I literally have no idea who/what/if that is something/someone? ) .. dont care about those weird baby pageants things you have... and your chocolate is just fucking awful.
Your claim that US dominates the world when it comes to culture surely is NOT any kind of fact. The idea that YOU think everyone is talking about the USA ALL the TIME, is certainly not fact. Its your perception, that's all. Its what you've been raised to believe.
That is the whole point. Its a perfectly valid argument. Unless you are only talking about history of the world since the 1800's or the invention of MTV.
Gates did some good stuff...Bob Ross is also known worldwide for his 28 minute oil paintings!
What does that even mean? Dominates how? What's the worth of some headlines that many don't give a shit about anyway? Have you seen OUR headlines? Kristen Stewart fucking her director, and the Elton John/Madonna hissy fits? Really?
I do love this country, its foundation, the opportunities it's afforded my family and, by extension, myself.
However, we too are prone to fucking up, being incredibly shallow. My recognizing that isn't tantamount to US-bashing. In fact, I hope we learn from our mistakes (big leap? who knows), but ignoring flaws does nothing to fix them.
When was the last time Finland or Iceland had the power to invade or bomb the shit out of anyone?
Where's all the Americans on the Finnish band boards?
I guess the automobile wouldn't have been invented without the creation of the wheel from the cavemen either.
A mention? I
Honestly...it's comments like these that let me know you do care.
...and with this...I officially have no idea what you're talking about? :?
When a major crisis hits the World...what's the first question....what's the Americans going to do?
And the work forces in this country won't work for those wages to create those products at the price point that the American public will pay. Would you pay $300 for those Nikes you own? Probably not.
Gossip pages are gossip pages. No offense but it is what it is. You do realize however that when US papers have those gossip stories...most papers across the world have those same headlines right?
You could ask the Leningrad Cowboys:
Finland defeated Russia in 1939. What makes you think they're a pushover?
And I don't even know what Nikes cost, other than too damn much, because this old woman has never owned a pair. I know I've bought shoes that were made in China because it's pretty hard to avoid but I'm kinda past the stage in my life where I need a little swoosh mark on my shoes to be cool.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
I was thinking the same thing. I cant escape it actually.
my wife is glued to the t.v set everyday after work and inbetween airing she's on the friggin computer looking for anything she may have missed........ it's messing up my history channel time :shock:
but on a good note the BMX racing is fun to watch
Godfather.
those guy's are freakin fast and tallented..they should get a metal but I believe the gold will go to connor fields of the usa
Godfather.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
This made me laugh out loud so hard.
But you're not past the stage in life to stop buying products manufactured in China even though you feel it's so wrong?
And again, the US wasn't even a thought when those "great thinkers" existed. I guess they just didn't have the smarts to actually create these products of every day society or else their native countries would be dominant today.
Look at the front page of your sports page tomorrow. I don;t know where you live but I guarantee your closest MLB and NFL team is headlined way before the olympic story of the day.
Just trying to keep it light.
...and I would say that anyone in the US that actually does watch the Olympics, it's just for national pride. Other than Michael Phelps...can you name an athlete?
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"