Let Your Voice Be Heard

Spiritual_Chaos · February 15

@Sea @Kat

How do the things written in here actually reach a forum to be heard?
Are all the comments read through loud at Monday meetings? Do an intern compile the nuggets? Is it a part of your gig to do it? Or is it @Rubysdad?

What are the top things that was written in here during these 12 years, that helped shape the fanclub? I think that would be a fun inclusion in the next DEEP magazine. Some info about what this thread actually is, and how it is being used. Dropping in here from time to time, it seems more like a forgotten black hole. So some context would be nice. That is my suggestion to be heard!

Chazz · February 15

How about a sticky thread to explain to everyone about using the search function?

... although it seems to have calmed down today, but yesterday was crazy with new threads on the same topics, hard to follow them all.

lastexitlondon · February 15

Preacherman said:

I’ve been a hardcore fan of this band since 10 and have seen every tour and travelled abroad many times to see them. I’m almost 60 years old so I’m not naïve about economics or how things work in the real world. However, like many fans I’m shocked by the prices for this tour and what appears to be blatant money grabbing by the band. I’ve read all the arguments from fans trying to excuse this by citing the increased cost of touring post Covid etc. but when you see that the Foo Fighters are touring similar venues and not charging anywhere near PJ’s prices this doesn’t ass up. PJ have no big stage set up with big visuals like U2, Muse or other bands so I fail to see how they can justify these prices. What sticks in the throat especially is that PJ have always portrayed themselves as being about more than music and have championed values like care for their fans, community, progressive politics etc. I have a good well paid job and can afford the prices, but I’m so shocked at this that I feel like I’d be colluding in the band screwing their fans if I pay these prices. From what I’ve seen online many others feel the same. I’m aware that there’s a dedicated thread for the tour but most of the commentary there seems to be about logistics and how the ticket lotter will operate. I feel this is a separate issue that needs it’s own thread. Anyone else feel betrayed by the band?

Well said I do. And I no longer will be going to shoes or buying merchandise. It's no acceptable to me. So all I can do is not go. I would never be able to afford it . And it's a matter of principle

RoleModelsinBlood31 · February 15

That's all you CAN do. If you don't like it, don't go. I think they've sent the world their message, and we're seeing it loud and clear. They don't owe anyone anything, and they're collecting on all the years they let us along for the ride for cheap. They're a Hall of Fame band and they're either going to continue to sell out shows regardless of the price, OR the market will correct itself and perhaps we get to see them in smaller venues OR the prices drop. That's how it works.

HughFreakingDillon · February 15

anyone has the right not to want to pay the prices, but man, "betrayed by the band" seems a tad dramatic. try living in the middle of canada where SEVERAL bands fear to tread and being in a tax bracket that doesn't generally involve concert travel. haha.

JOEJOEJOE · February 15

We have to remember that concert tickets are mostly driven by the demand/market value, as opposed to the band's costs associated with touring.

HughFreakingDillon · February 15

JOEJOEJOE said:

We have to remember that concert tickets are mostly driven by the demand/market value, as opposed to the band's costs associated with touring.

correct. I said "supply/demand" on one of the thousand facebook complaining posts and got many laugh emojis. People just don't understand this.

PJ_Soul · February 15

HughFreakingDillon said:

JOEJOEJOE said:

We have to remember that concert tickets are mostly driven by the demand/market value, as opposed to the band's costs associated with touring.

correct. I said "supply/demand" on one of the thousand facebook complaining posts and got many laugh emojis. People just don't understand this.

I understand it, which is why I am concerned that they will have real trouble with selling out their second Vancouver show, lol.

RoleModelsinBlood31 · February 15

I can already hear the roar when we get 10c seats in terrible locations and they don’t even sell out the venue 🤦‍♂️

demetrios · February 15

How about an SiriusXM Pearl Jam Radio in studio performance on this Dark Matter tour?

Or yet one of your shows aired live on SiriusXM Radio.

That would be a treat!

lastexitlondon · February 16

Could someone fix the phone use for the forum please it's been 2 days.

HughFreakingDillon · February 16

haha I thought it was just mine

RoleModelsinBlood31 · February 16

Mine works fine. Was screwed up
for a few hours but I clicked “full site”
I think and it went back
to normal

BSully · February 16

The forum has been having issues for a couple of days anyway.
It's almost like the traffic has been higher over the last 72 hours or something.

Eraserhead · February 16

just_one said:

Please announce all 2nd nights at once!!!

+1

demetrios · February 16

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Mine works fine. Was screwed up
for a few hours but I clicked “full site”
I think and it went back
to normal

Site works great on the desktop. Via FireFox, Chorme & Edge.

But on my smartphone, doesn't display well on FireFox or Chrome via Andoid.

But if you change to setting to desktop view .. it'll work but not the greatest viewing on a mobile device.

lastexitlondon · February 16

Still broken on mobile. Why is it taking days?

Spiritual_Chaos · February 16

lastexitlondon said:

Still broken on mobile. Why is it taking days?

Weird. It's working for me. Maybe you let your PJ Premium+ membership lapse?

Abe Froman · February 16

lastexitlondon said:

Still broken on mobile. Why is it taking days?

Still not working for me either. Seems like it should be fixed by now 🤷🏼‍♂️

Preacherman · February 16

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

That's all you CAN do. If you don't like it, don't go. I think they've sent the world their message, and we're seeing it loud and clear. They don't owe anyone anything, and they're collecting on all the years they let us along for the ride for cheap. They're a Hall of Fame band and they're either going to continue to sell out shows regardless of the price, OR the market will correct itself and perhaps we get to see them in smaller venues OR the prices drop. That's how it works.

"The years they let us along on the ride for cheap" - what years were they exactly? I don't ever remember paying any less for Pearl Jam albums, shows or merch than I did for any other band.

jimjam1982 · February 16

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I can already hear the roar when we get 10c seats in terrible locations and they don’t even sell out the venue 🤦‍♂️

If that happens they should start auto-upgrading people a few days in advance and re-list the shitter seats at a discount.

Should be easy to track and prioritize original ticket holders not people who got them on F2F.

JimmyV · February 16

JimmyV said:

It would be nice to see the head of the fan club occasionally interact with the fans. This thread is a reminder of how long it has been since many of us have heard anything from Tim Bierman / @Rubysdad.

Still true.

lastexitlondon · February 17

Membership intact. I'm on android if that makes any difference. Come on 10c sort this out

drakeheuer14 · February 17

On a lottery weekend, it is pretty frustrating not to be able to scroll through here very easy and interact. Please fix mobile forum problems.

bbdowell1627 · February 17

Preacherman said:

I’ve been a hardcore fan of this band since 10 and have seen every tour and travelled abroad many times to see them. I’m almost 60 years old so I’m not naïve about economics or how things work in the real world. However, like many fans I’m shocked by the prices for this tour and what appears to be blatant money grabbing by the band. I’ve read all the arguments from fans trying to excuse this by citing the increased cost of touring post Covid etc. but when you see that the Foo Fighters are touring similar venues and not charging anywhere near PJ’s prices this doesn’t ass up. PJ have no big stage set up with big visuals like U2, Muse or other bands so I fail to see how they can justify these prices. What sticks in the throat especially is that PJ have always portrayed themselves as being about more than music and have championed values like care for their fans, community, progressive politics etc. I have a good well paid job and can afford the prices, but I’m so shocked at this that I feel like I’d be colluding in the band screwing their fans if I pay these prices. From what I’ve seen online many others feel the same. I’m aware that there’s a dedicated thread for the tour but most of the commentary there seems to be about logistics and how the ticket lotter will operate. I feel this is a separate issue that needs it’s own thread. Anyone else feel betrayed by the band?

I’m with you-also I don’t think it sits well on their conscience-it’s probably above their heads at this point

Lerxst1992 · February 18

Preacherman said:

I’ve been a hardcore fan of this band since 10 and have seen every tour and travelled abroad many times to see them. I’m almost 60 years old so I’m not naïve about economics or how things work in the real world. However, like many fans I’m shocked by the prices for this tour and what appears to be blatant money grabbing by the band. I’ve read all the arguments from fans trying to excuse this by citing the increased cost of touring post Covid etc. but when you see that the Foo Fighters are touring similar venues and not charging anywhere near PJ’s prices this doesn’t ass up. PJ have no big stage set up with big visuals like U2, Muse or other bands so I fail to see how they can justify these prices. What sticks in the throat especially is that PJ have always portrayed themselves as being about more than music and have championed values like care for their fans, community, progressive politics etc. I have a good well paid job and can afford the prices, but I’m so shocked at this that I feel like I’d be colluding in the band screwing their fans if I pay these prices. From what I’ve seen online many others feel the same. I’m aware that there’s a dedicated thread for the tour but most of the commentary there seems to be about logistics and how the ticket lotter will operate. I feel this is a separate issue that needs it’s own thread. Anyone else feel betrayed by the band?

Because of your comment, I checked the Foos prices at citi field. Next to stage all the way to the side are $220, well above PJ prices. Upper decks were much cheaper at $102. And that’s the issue.

PJ has always charged a one price fits all for standard tickets, but we know the true value of close seats and GA are much higher than upper deck seats, yet PJ charges nearly the same price. When everyone years ago paid $90 to get in the door it wasn’t an issue, we all got a good deal.

Inflation is real, and $180 average cost for a concert is understandable. Whats not is charging that same price to sit above the scoreboard and with the retired jerseys as fans sipping red wine with the band.

it’s not fair for fans sitting with the clouds to subsidize GA and senior member tickets when prices need to be this high.

Spiritual_Chaos · February 19

Lerxst1992 said:

Preacherman said:

I’ve been a hardcore fan of this band since 10 and have seen every tour and travelled abroad many times to see them. I’m almost 60 years old so I’m not naïve about economics or how things work in the real world. However, like many fans I’m shocked by the prices for this tour and what appears to be blatant money grabbing by the band. I’ve read all the arguments from fans trying to excuse this by citing the increased cost of touring post Covid etc. but when you see that the Foo Fighters are touring similar venues and not charging anywhere near PJ’s prices this doesn’t ass up. PJ have no big stage set up with big visuals like U2, Muse or other bands so I fail to see how they can justify these prices. What sticks in the throat especially is that PJ have always portrayed themselves as being about more than music and have championed values like care for their fans, community, progressive politics etc. I have a good well paid job and can afford the prices, but I’m so shocked at this that I feel like I’d be colluding in the band screwing their fans if I pay these prices. From what I’ve seen online many others feel the same. I’m aware that there’s a dedicated thread for the tour but most of the commentary there seems to be about logistics and how the ticket lotter will operate. I feel this is a separate issue that needs it’s own thread. Anyone else feel betrayed by the band?

Because of your comment, I checked the Foos prices at citi field. Next to stage all the way to the side are $220, well above PJ prices. Upper decks were much cheaper at $102. And that’s the issue.

PJ has always charged a one price fits all for standard tickets, but we know the true value of close seats and GA are much higher than upper deck seats, yet PJ charges nearly the same price. When everyone years ago paid $90 to get in the door it wasn’t an issue, we all got a good deal.

Inflation is real, and $180 average cost for a concert is understandable. Whats not is charging that same price to sit above the scoreboard and with the retired jerseys as fans sipping red wine with the band.

it’s not fair for fans sitting with the clouds to subsidize GA and senior member tickets when prices need to be this high.

Here was my idea to tackle that:

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/300909/would-this-be-a-worse-fanclub-ticket-system#latest

NewfieintheUSA · February 20

This new system for requesting tickets needs revisited. How can TC justify some people hitting GA in both shows in the same city and others being shut out all together?

My wife and I both went 0/4 for Seattle and Philly (our only choices), yet I've seen people hit all 4 shows.

PJNB · February 20

NewfieintheUSA said:

This new system for requesting tickets needs revisited. How can TC justify some people hitting GA in both shows in the same city and others being shut out all together?

My wife and I both went 0/4 for Seattle and Philly (our only choices), yet I've seen people hit all 4 shows.

The amount of people hitting GA's for both shows in the same city is crazy. It was bound to happen with no priority but damn does it ever seem like a high number.

Good on 10C to get so many seats but taking out priority really fucked over a lot of fans imo while others who got lucky won it all.

demetrios · February 20

Any word if there will be a 2023 Pearl Jam CD Box Set?

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