Colorado movie killings spark rise in gun sales

fife

Godfather. wrote:

fife wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

yea yea yea...real funny but guess what..they did it because they can,this is America and we have the 2nd ammendment we haven't given up our right to protect ourselfs.
BTW
I believe that the first sign of that tear gas container and a few people would have had guns drawn and quite possibly smoked that punk if there were armed citizens in that theater, you all can keep making up reasons to ban guns and make jokes about it but look at the bottom line here..,.we still got em.

Godfather.

ok, i have stayed out of these 2 treads but I have to say something now. to begin, do you really believe that having the 2nd amendment protects you. lets say that i am a good shot and from a roof top i starting shooting down at people. yes maybe at some point someone might kill or injure me but by the time that is done many people can be killed. what if one of those people is you? are you protected? NO!

now as for Gun control. the main issue that I see is not just the amount of guns that are open for people to buy but the state of mind that comes from a person saying I need to shoot someone for whatever reason.

so while you can yes say "we still have them" do you feel safe? in many rough areas many people have guns and yet people are still killed there.

sorry fife but I can't see your point being valid,life if full of what if's so we all we can do is protect ourselfs and our familys as best we can and if a gun is needed then so be it.

Godfather.

but the point is that gun doesn't protect yourself or your family in a situation like this. its put more people and other people families at risk of being shot. I have been shot at (not hit but shot at) in my work life and the truth is that while we are comfortable sitting infront of a computer is that when you hear guns being shot at you your first reaction is not to shot back but to try not getting hit.

Godfather.

fife=o.k I understand that, but me personally if heard shots or someone breaking into my house or I was in a rough neighborhood I would feel a lot safer knowing I had a loaded weapon on me.
btw I don't normally carry a weapon.


Godfather.

dimitrispearljam

fife wrote:

but the point is that gun doesn't protect yourself or your family in a situation like this. its put more people and other people families at risk of being shot. I have been shot at (not hit but shot at) in my work life and the truth is that while we are comfortable sitting infront of a computer is that when you hear guns being shot at you your first reaction is not to shot back but to try not getting hit.

when someone want to do bad,isnt easy to stop him..
when u hear shotgun u run to hide..normal reaction
thats why police officers trained for have more calm reaction and hadle the situation..
even in police force there are different squads for different jobs
having a gun doesnt mean u can protect your self..
if u have bricks and cement ,doesnt mean u can build a house...

DS1119

One of the unfortunate events in US history where someone with legally obtained guns was bat shit crazy. 12 people killed and that is a tragedy. :( However how many people were killed in this country from illgeally obtained weapons? How about just today? The legal gun owners aren't the people to target here. I mean, shit, I could leave my office right now, walk out to my car and run over 50 people right now if I wanted to.

g under p

dimitrispearljam wrote:

awesome..now every parent at the state when they go to see a movie with their kids will have this conversation..
"honey,did we get all?,i got the car keys,the tickets for the movie,the sandwiches ..kids are at front door.
can you get the bag with diapers,the sodas,the guns the granades and the bulletproof vests?
love ya.."

I didn't see this Demi, but that was a good one.

Peace

Godfather.

fife=a question and I'm not being funny.

"but the point is that gun doesn't protect yourself or your family in a situation like this. its put more people and other people families at risk of being shot. I have been shot at (not hit but shot at) in my work life and the truth is that while we are comfortable sitting infront of a computer is that when you hear guns being shot at you your first reaction is not to shot back but to try not getting hit."

you said a gun does not protect myself or my family and I understand what you are saying
so then could we also say that guns don't kill people and that people kill people ?
your thoughts.

Godfather.

fife

Godfather. wrote:

fife=o.k I understand that, but me personally if heard shots or someone breaking into my house or I was in a rough neighborhood I would feel a lot safer knowing I had a loaded weapon on me.
btw I don't normally carry a weapon.


Godfather.

I can understand this and that why i said that we also have to look at the causes that make a person feel that its ok to use a gun to shot people. simple gun control is not going to end gun violence.

MotoDC

fife wrote:

MotoDC wrote:

fife wrote:

ok, i have stayed out of these 2 treads but I have to say something now. to begin, do you really believe that having the 2nd amendment protects you. lets say that i am a good shot and from a roof top i starting shooting down at people. yes maybe at some point someone might kill or injure me but by the time that is done many people can be killed. what if one of those people is you? are you protected? NO!

Wait, wait, even better...what if you're in a glass bubble on the bottom of the ocean with nothing but an old western six-shooter. A shark comes along and asks you for directions, but you know he's just setting you up, so you send him the wrong way. Meanwhile, Captain Ahab drives by in a self-propelled submarine and points his torpedo at you. What to do, what to do? You can maybe shoot him but can you get him before the torpedo is set loose? Even worse, when your bullet breaks your glass bubble, can you hold your breath long enough to get to the surface?? Oh no my pistola is useless!

asked the victims of the DC sniper if having a gun made them feel safer? the reality is that having guns on the streets is not safe and having more people with guns is not safe.

The reality is that your examples are so deep into outlier territory that my attempt at humor seemed the most appropriate way to make the point. The University of Texas sniper? The DC sniper? Those aren't really the risks that most gun owners are trying to mitigate by carrying.

Godfather.

fife wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

fife=o.k I understand that, but me personally if heard shots or someone breaking into my house or I was in a rough neighborhood I would feel a lot safer knowing I had a loaded weapon on me.
btw I don't normally carry a weapon.


Godfather.

I can understand this and that why i said that we also have to look at the causes that make a person feel that its ok to use a gun to shot people. simple gun control is not going to end gun violence.

I'm just guessing here but it seems you have had enough experiance/knowledge in this area with guns
in your work life, your opinion has my respect.

Godfather.

fife

Godfather. wrote:

fife=a question and I'm not being funny.

"but the point is that gun doesn't protect yourself or your family in a situation like this. its put more people and other people families at risk of being shot. I have been shot at (not hit but shot at) in my work life and the truth is that while we are comfortable sitting infront of a computer is that when you hear guns being shot at you your first reaction is not to shot back but to try not getting hit."

you said a gun does not protect myself or my family and I understand what you are saying
so then could we also say that guns don't kill people and that people kill people ?
your thoughts.

Godfather.

I think that people kill people but a gun in the hands of a person is an extension of that person. I don't know if it is a either/or situation here to be honest.

fife

asked the victims of the DC sniper if having a gun made them feel safer? the reality is that having guns on the streets is not safe and having more people with guns is not safe.[/quote]
The reality is that your examples are so deep into outlier territory that my attempt at humor seemed the most appropriate way to make the point. The University of Texas sniper? The DC sniper? Those aren't really the risks that most gun owners are trying to mitigate by carrying.[/quote]

ok, but would you not then agree than that most gun owners don't assume that they should bring their guns to watch a movie then? I think most gun owners are trying to protect their homes i.e someone breaks into their homes and they want to protect themselves.

Would you agree to that.

comebackgirl

Jason P wrote:

Has the subway scene from Predator 2 taught us nothing when groups of armed citizens face of with criminals in a dark chaotic atmosphere?

:fp:

My advice is, instead of using the money on a gun, why not use it on a nice home theater system instead. The popcorn is cheaper, strangers cell phones wont go off, and you can fast-forward through the ads.

If any of you have had the honor of watching me play darts, pool or any game that requires aim or the use of motor skills you wouldn't want members of the general public to have access to guns.

josevolution

I don't give a damn buy as many guns as you wan't ......

Godfather.

fife wrote:

asked the victims of the DC sniper if having a gun made them feel safer? the reality is that having guns on the streets is not safe and having more people with guns is not safe.

The reality is that your examples are so deep into outlier territory that my attempt at humor seemed the most appropriate way to make the point. The University of Texas sniper? The DC sniper? Those aren't really the risks that most gun owners are trying to mitigate by carrying.[/quote]

ok, but would you not then agree than that most gun owners don't assume that they should bring their guns to watch a movie then? I think most gun owners are trying to protect their homes i.e someone breaks into their homes and they want to protect themselves.

Would you agree to that.[/quote]

yes..plain and simple..yes.

Godfather.

JonnyPistachio

comebackgirl wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Has the subway scene from Predator 2 taught us nothing when groups of armed citizens face of with criminals in a dark chaotic atmosphere?

:fp:

My advice is, instead of using the money on a gun, why not use it on a nice home theater system instead. The popcorn is cheaper, strangers cell phones wont go off, and you can fast-forward through the ads.

If any of you have had the honor of watching me play darts, pool or any game that requires aim or the use of motor skills you wouldn't want members of the general public to have access to guns.

I base it on how people drive. Everyday some idiot almost kills me on the interstate driving like an ass. These are the people with guns too. I just don't trust the general population.

Godfather.

comebackgirl wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Has the subway scene from Predator 2 taught us nothing when groups of armed citizens face of with criminals in a dark chaotic atmosphere?

:fp:

My advice is, instead of using the money on a gun, why not use it on a nice home theater system instead. The popcorn is cheaper, strangers cell phones wont go off, and you can fast-forward through the ads.

If any of you have had the honor of watching me play darts, pool or any game that requires aim or the use of motor skills you wouldn't want members of the general public to have access to guns.

gun safety classes should be a must for any gun owner.

Godfather.
trained by Laren W moffett

comebackgirl

Godfather. wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Has the subway scene from Predator 2 taught us nothing when groups of armed citizens face of with criminals in a dark chaotic atmosphere?

:fp:

My advice is, instead of using the money on a gun, why not use it on a nice home theater system instead. The popcorn is cheaper, strangers cell phones wont go off, and you can fast-forward through the ads.

If any of you have had the honor of watching me play darts, pool or any game that requires aim or the use of motor skills you wouldn't want members of the general public to have access to guns.

gun safety classes should be a must for any gun owner.

Godfather.
trained by Laren W moffett

But are they? How about anger management classes? I've had a few anger management clients tell me "it's a good thing I didn't have a gun."

comebackgirl

JonnyPistachio wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Has the subway scene from Predator 2 taught us nothing when groups of armed citizens face of with criminals in a dark chaotic atmosphere?

:fp:

My advice is, instead of using the money on a gun, why not use it on a nice home theater system instead. The popcorn is cheaper, strangers cell phones wont go off, and you can fast-forward through the ads.

If any of you have had the honor of watching me play darts, pool or any game that requires aim or the use of motor skills you wouldn't want members of the general public to have access to guns.

I base it on how people drive. Everyday some idiot almost kills me on the interstate driving like an ass. These are the people with guns too. I just don't trust the general population.

There may be something to that. I swear you can tell a bit about someone's personality about the way they drive - how aggressive they are, their need for power and control on the road, etc.

And if you saw me drive, you really would not want me to have a gun

Godfather.

you need a new client list

Godfather.

comebackgirl

Godfather. wrote:

you need a new client list

Godfather.

They keep me in business Hell - if they do get their hands on a gun and actually shoot someone they'll probably be sentenced to me for a lifetime. Maybe I don't support gun control after all :think: