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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,290
    81 wrote:
    38% of wirgley attendee's are visitors. move the cubs to rosemont or schaumburg and i think attendance drops to 15K per game after the intial euphoria of the ball park wears off.

    and i agree...fuck the jumbo tron. the right field screen is bad enough.

    This ^

    Also, the Cubs have some of the highest ticket prices in baseball.
    You build a billion dollar park for a shitty team...fewer people go....how do they make money, how do they pay off the park? Ticket prices and concessions will go up. Now you're not only alienating people who love Wrigley, but you're making those that DO go pay more to see the same shitty team lose.
    Would be the team's biggest mistake...
    Well, I suppose the Cubs organization is known for making giant fn mistakes, but that would be the death of the club.
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Posts: 14,841
    mca47 wrote:


    I agree that it is highly unlikely that they will move, but you can't blame them for at least threatening it. The way they are handcuffed by the city and the "neighborhood" is beyond fucking ridiculous. Like pureoc said, the city needs the Cubs way more than they need the city. Wrigleyville and the surrounding neighborhoods would crumble if they left.

    I really don't think the AZ comparison is fair. Tons of transplants in AZ. If the Cubs were to move to Rosemont or wherever else, I think that they would still be in OK shape.

    I agree that Wrigleyville and the city need the Cubs WAY more than the Cubs need them. If the Cubs moved, the northside would become the southside in no time. Everyone would move the hell out as the south moved north.

    I believe, if the Cubs moved to say Rosemont, they will lose tens of thousands of fans in the process. Despite being easier to get to, easier to park, more conveniences...the real fans aren't going to want to go to see a shitty team play in an annoying park. If almost 40% of your ticket sales are to tourists, the remaining 60% to fans...not only are you going to lose the tourists, but you'll also lose a large chunk of the diehards.
    Like it or not, Wrigley is an experience. Mega-modern parks are not.


    Yep. I'd me moving my ass out of Roscoe Village real quick if that were to happen.

    I just think that the whole situation that the Cubs are in is complete bullshit. The fact that they can't do anything to their own ballpark without going through all of the nonsense is such a joke. This jerkoff Alderman Tunney drives me nuts. He keeps talking about the "neighborhood" and all the residents. If you live in Wrigleyville, you know what you're getting yourself into. If you don't like all the traffic, noise, and drunken assholes wandering around everywhere, then go live in one of the other great neighborhoods in this city.

    If they were to move, it would make things much different. They'd be a normal sports team that doesn't play their game in an amusement park type of atmosphere. Sure, they would lose all the tourists and people that go to Wrigley just because that is the cool thing to do. But if they have a good team, people will come. No matter where they are playing.
  • rival.rival. Posts: 7,775
    the biggest mistake the yankees made in franchise history was knocking down the old park to build the new one. the cubs would be making the same blunder if they relocated the team to rosemont.
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Posts: 14,841
    rival. wrote:
    the biggest mistake the yankees made in franchise history was knocking down the old park to build the new one. the cubs would be making the same blunder if they relocated the team to rosemont.



    Definitely agree. I'm not trying to say that they should move to Rosemont. But, I wouldn't blame them if they go down that road because they keep getting dicked around by the city.
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,290
    rival. wrote:
    the biggest mistake the yankees made in franchise history was knocking down the old park to build the new one. the cubs would be making the same blunder if they relocated the team to rosemont.
    Yeah, but the Yankees will still draw well due to one important factor...
    They are a good team that wins championships.

    IF the Cubs were as successful as the Yankees, I'm pretty sure there would be no Wrigleyville debate...the Cubs would get everything they wanted, end of discussion.
    If they wanted to build a new stadium, people would be up in arms about losing Wrigley, BUT people would still go to watch a winning team. I think Ricketts forgets that the Cubs are terrible. They've been terrible, and they likely will be for the foreseeable future. I also think Ricketts forgets how important Wrigley is as well.

    Let the White Sox and Cubs swap stadiums for two years. That would be a huge reality check as the Cubs revenue would go to shit. <--This isn't a knock on US Cell Field...just saying if the Cubs played there for a couple of years, ticket sales compared to Wrigley would drop sooooo fast.
  • elvistheking44elvistheking44 Posts: 4,400
    I think the renovations look awesome......You couldn't pay me to go to a game currently, the team and the building both suck. July 19th is the only time in the next few years I see myself hitting up Wrigley....

    I say bring on the changes, and fuck the rooftop owners and the residents. Lets see how fast your property value drops as soon as the Cubs pull out of the neighborhood.

    http://chicago.curbed.com/archives/2013 ... -scene.php

    http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/ ... /130439944
  • cubBEE_girlcubBEE_girl Posts: 3,365
    Hmm...The Cubs in Schaumburg...10 minutes from my house. :think: :shock: :lol::lol:

    http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/ ... rg-boomers

    On Wednesday, Chicago Cubs owner Tom Ricketts said he would consider moving the team out of 99-year-old Wrigley Field if plans for renovations needed to generate revenue to compete were blocked.

    On Thursday, an independent league baseball team, the Schaumburg Boomers, who play their home games 25 miles west of Wrigley, offered the Cubs a chance at playing games at their park should those renovations fall through.

    The only stipulation: The Boomers get first dibs on playing dates and times.

    "We did this to have some good-natured fun," said Andy Viano, president and general manager of the Frontier League team. "It's a good way to tell people what we have to offer."

    Although the Boomers' park holds only 7,365 fans, the field's dimensions are identical to those at Wrigley.

    The team's pitch? Its most expensive ticket is $10.

    "That will get you in the front row behind the dugout," Viano said.

    A 20-ounce beer and a hot dog cost a combined $7, according to Viano. Plus, the team offers free parking.

    Viano said that if the Cubs want, he's willing to grow ivy on the outfield walls, but he can't offer much to replicate the Wrigleyville atmosphere.

    "We have the expressway over the right-field wall and a small municipal airport over the left-field wall," he said.

    The Boomers open their season in two weeks. The team averaged around 2,500 fans per game last year.

    "We'll propose a fair and honest rent, no question about that, but we have one tenant that's committed to winning a championship in 2013 so the Boomers would get first priority on dates," Viano added in a news release. "However, I think a Friday afternoon Cubs matinee would make for the perfect opening act before a Boomers game under the lights with a spectacular, free post-game fireworks show!"

    As for the Cubs, proposed renovations estimated to cost $500 million include a new video board, an updated clubhouse for the players and improved facilities for fans.

    By far the thorniest issue is the plan for a 6,000-square-foot video screen over left field, as seen in many major league ballparks. The difference is that Wrigley -- the second-oldest ballpark in Major League Baseball behind Fenway Park in Boston -- is surrounded by privately owned clubs with rooftop bleachers whose owners object to any changes that could block their bird's-eye views into the stadium.

    The rooftop businesses have been left out of discussions on the proposed upgrade, but they think they should have a seat at the bargaining table because they have a contract in which they share 17 percent of their revenue with the Cubs. Legal action is a possibility.

    Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
    I lost a bet...
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,290
    Hmm...The Cubs in Schaumburg...10 minutes from my house. :think: :shock: :lol::lol:

    http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/ ... rg-boomers

    On Wednesday, Chicago Cubs owner Tom Ricketts said he would consider moving the team out of 99-year-old Wrigley Field if plans for renovations needed to generate revenue to compete were blocked.

    On Thursday, an independent league baseball team, the Schaumburg Boomers, who play their home games 25 miles west of Wrigley, offered the Cubs a chance at playing games at their park should those renovations fall through.

    The only stipulation: The Boomers get first dibs on playing dates and times.

    "We did this to have some good-natured fun," said Andy Viano, president and general manager of the Frontier League team. "It's a good way to tell people what we have to offer."

    Although the Boomers' park holds only 7,365 fans, the field's dimensions are identical to those at Wrigley.

    The team's pitch? Its most expensive ticket is $10.

    "That will get you in the front row behind the dugout," Viano said.

    A 20-ounce beer and a hot dog cost a combined $7, according to Viano. Plus, the team offers free parking.

    Viano said that if the Cubs want, he's willing to grow ivy on the outfield walls, but he can't offer much to replicate the Wrigleyville atmosphere.

    "We have the expressway over the right-field wall and a small municipal airport over the left-field wall," he said.

    The Boomers open their season in two weeks. The team averaged around 2,500 fans per game last year.

    "We'll propose a fair and honest rent, no question about that, but we have one tenant that's committed to winning a championship in 2013 so the Boomers would get first priority on dates," Viano added in a news release. "However, I think a Friday afternoon Cubs matinee would make for the perfect opening act before a Boomers game under the lights with a spectacular, free post-game fireworks show!"

    As for the Cubs, proposed renovations estimated to cost $500 million include a new video board, an updated clubhouse for the players and improved facilities for fans.

    By far the thorniest issue is the plan for a 6,000-square-foot video screen over left field, as seen in many major league ballparks. The difference is that Wrigley -- the second-oldest ballpark in Major League Baseball behind Fenway Park in Boston -- is surrounded by privately owned clubs with rooftop bleachers whose owners object to any changes that could block their bird's-eye views into the stadium.

    The rooftop businesses have been left out of discussions on the proposed upgrade, but they think they should have a seat at the bargaining table because they have a contract in which they share 17 percent of their revenue with the Cubs. Legal action is a possibility.

    Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

    :fp:
  • pureocpureoc Posts: 2,383
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... 9946.story

    You morons moved next to a ball park that has been there for 100 years. How many of you residents are over 100 years old? Probably none, so you all should shut the f up. You moved next to a ballpark and a bunch of bars. If you want peace and quiet move somewhere else. I feel zero sympathy for these people as it was their CHOICE to live here. Also, last time I checked it's not exactly a cheap area to live, so I'm sure most of these residents could easily afford to move or relocate to a location just as nice. I doubt it will happen but I hope Rickets tells these people to go screw themselves and moves to the burbs. Enough is enough!
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  • pureocpureoc Posts: 2,383
    Fn Marmol. It's time he gets demoted or cut. Anyone in AAA can do that bad, so why not see if they might actually be able to do better, since Marmol clearly can't.
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,290
    I wonder how many runs Jackson will give up today.... :x
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,565
    mca47 wrote:
    I wonder how many runs Jackson will give up today.... :x
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  • pureocpureoc Posts: 2,383
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  • cubBEE_girlcubBEE_girl Posts: 3,365
    pureoc wrote:

    I miss Kerry Wood.
    I lost a bet...
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,290
    pureoc wrote:
    15 years?!?! :shock: :shock:
    Holy crap!!!
    I remembering watching that game...
    15 years?!? :shock: :shock:

    God, that slider was ridiculous!

    Crazy to think that if the Cubs had a decent pitching coach back then...what kinds of careers would Wood and Prior had? :?
  • pureocpureoc Posts: 2,383
    pureoc wrote:

    I miss Kerry Wood.


    He won't be pitching but I'm guessing he will be making an appearance at Wrigley July 19th.
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  • PJ-CubsPJ-Cubs Posts: 3,319
    pureoc wrote:

    One of the most dominant pitching performances that I have ever seen
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,290
    pureoc wrote:
    pureoc wrote:

    I miss Kerry Wood.


    He won't be pitching but I'm guessing he will be making an appearance at Wrigley July 19th.
    Yeah, and I bet despite not being in the 10c, his seats will be waaaaaay better than ours! :lol:
  • cubBEE_girlcubBEE_girl Posts: 3,365
    mca47 wrote:
    pureoc wrote:

    I miss Kerry Wood.


    He won't be pitching but I'm guessing he will be making an appearance at Wrigley July 19th.
    Yeah, and I bet despite not being in the 10c, his seats will be waaaaaay better than ours! :lol:

    He could be a 10c member. ;):lol::lol:

    But, yes, I'm sure he will have some pretty awesome seats. :lol::lol::lol:
    I lost a bet...
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,565
    Tuesday night.
    Sec. 16
    Row 1

    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Im basically sitting in the dugout.
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    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,290
    Tuesday night.
    Sec. 16
    Row 1

    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Im basically sitting in the dugout.
    Within shouting distance? Make a scene Speedy! Tell the Cubs how you really feel! :lol:
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    mca47 wrote:
    pureoc wrote:
    15 years?!?! :shock: :shock:
    Holy crap!!!
    I remembering watching that game...
    15 years?!? :shock: :shock:

    God, that slider was ridiculous!

    Crazy to think that if the Cubs had a decent pitching coach back then...what kinds of careers would Wood and Prior had? :?

    I skipped my afternoon classes to finish watching this game. That fn slider was ridiculous. The last one broke 3 feet. It looked like his fastball was 109 with sick movement. Should have been a no hitter except for a bad call by the scorer early in the game. Kerry was and still is my favorite cub behind ryno.
  • PJ-CubsPJ-Cubs Posts: 3,319
    Thrilled with the Rizzo deal. If he really becomes the player that everyone says he is going to be, the Cubs are getting him at a bargain and can start building around him.
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,290
    PJ-Cubs wrote:
    Thrilled with the Rizzo deal. If he really becomes the player that everyone says he is going to be, the Cubs are getting him at a bargain and can start building around him.

    Well, I'm always a skeptic. How often do Cub players sign long term deals to end up doing nothing?
    I hope it works, because if he hits close to .3, I'd be happy.
  • cubBEE_girlcubBEE_girl Posts: 3,365
    Tonight's game was nice to watch. Now, if they can keep this up....
    I lost a bet...
  • pureocpureoc Posts: 2,383
    Tonight's game was nice to watch. Now, if they can keep this up....


    Three in a row, that's what we call a winning streak!!
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,565
    pureoc wrote:
    Tonight's game was nice to watch. Now, if they can keep this up....


    Three in a row, that's what we call a winning streak!!
    I will be 1st row behind the dugout tomorrow.
    I cant wait to tell Mr. Soriano what I think of his dumbass.

    :lol::lol::lol:
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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Posts: 9,290
    pureoc wrote:
    Tonight's game was nice to watch. Now, if they can keep this up....


    Three in a row, that's what we call a winning streak!!

    and now 21 percentage points ahead of the Mets...
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,290
    pureoc wrote:
    Tonight's game was nice to watch. Now, if they can keep this up....


    Three in a row, that's what we call a winning streak!!
    I will be 1st row behind the dugout tomorrow.
    I cant wait to tell Mr. Soriano what I think of his dumbass.

    :lol::lol::lol:

    I hope you make the broadcast Speedy! :lol:
  • pureocpureoc Posts: 2,383
    pureoc wrote:
    Tonight's game was nice to watch. Now, if they can keep this up....


    Three in a row, that's what we call a winning streak!!
    I will be 1st row behind the dugout tomorrow.
    I cant wait to tell Mr. Soriano what I think of his dumbass.

    :lol::lol::lol:

    I've made sure to tell him what I think every game I go to! :lol::lol::lol:
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