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Degeneratefk

HesCalledDyer said:

Degen, why are you so hell bent on trading Baez? He's a solid piece of our every day lineup!

I don't consider baez as solid at all. He k's waaaaaaaaay too much and he's just an above average fielder. But, hes young and has some pop. That makes him great trade bait. He's very replaceable.

HesCalledDyer

So by that logic we should trade Bryant, too? Since he strikes out twice as much as Baez and commits as many errors.

Degeneratefk

HesCalledDyer said:

So by that logic we should trade Bryant, too? Since he strikes out twice as much as Baez and commits as many errors.

Baez isn't leading the league in home runs, is he?

pureoc

No way I'd trade Baez. You basically cover yourself from 1 big injury with him on roster since he can play anywhere in field. Huge asset for an nl team. Above avg defender anywhere you put him. Guy can prob be a .275 hitter and hit 20-25 hrs. Currently. 286 and 9 hrs snd he doesn't play everyday, although he should.

Degeneratefk

pureoc said:

No way I'd trade Baez. You basically cover yourself from 1 big injury with him on roster since he can play anywhere in field. Huge asset for an nl team. Above avg defender anywhere you put him. Guy can prob be a .275 hitter and hit 20-25 hrs. Currently. 286 and 9 hrs snd he doesn't play everyday, although he should.

If he played everyday, he'd be a .240 hitter.

Anyway, I think he's tradeable. Theo loves schwarber. He's not moving. Who else could you trade to get a Chapman or a miller?

HesCalledDyer

Degeneratefk said:

pureoc said:

No way I'd trade Baez. You basically cover yourself from 1 big injury with him on roster since he can play anywhere in field. Huge asset for an nl team. Above avg defender anywhere you put him. Guy can prob be a .275 hitter and hit 20-25 hrs. Currently. 286 and 9 hrs snd he doesn't play everyday, although he should.

If he played everyday, he'd be a .240 hitter.

Anyway, I think he's tradeable. Theo loves schwarber. He's not moving. Who else could you trade to get a Chapman or a miller?

Miller is not even a question. The Yanks have him for 3 or 4 more years at low cost, no way they give him up unless they get a blockbuster in return. Trade Soler for Chapman. Keep Baez. Saying he'd be a .240 hitter if he played every day is complete conjecture. He might be a .300 hitter if he started daily. His strikeout rate has gone down from 41% in 2014, 30% in 2015, to 22% this season. His spot on the roster is quite valuable, as pureoc said, since he can play anywhere in the field. If we didn't have him right now, we'd have La Stella & Bryant platooning at 3B and OF. And while I prefer Bryant in left, and see La Stella's value as a late-inning defensive substitution, if that was our every day lineup, we'd be in a lot worse shape offensively!

Degeneratefk

HesCalledDyer said:

Degeneratefk said:

pureoc said:

No way I'd trade Baez. You basically cover yourself from 1 big injury with him on roster since he can play anywhere in field. Huge asset for an nl team. Above avg defender anywhere you put him. Guy can prob be a .275 hitter and hit 20-25 hrs. Currently. 286 and 9 hrs snd he doesn't play everyday, although he should.

If he played everyday, he'd be a .240 hitter.

Anyway, I think he's tradeable. Theo loves schwarber. He's not moving. Who else could you trade to get a Chapman or a miller?

Miller is not even a question. The Yanks have him for 3 or 4 more years at low cost, no way they give him up unless they get a blockbuster in return. Trade Soler for Chapman. Keep Baez. Saying he'd be a .240 hitter if he played every day is complete conjecture. He might be a .300 hitter if he started daily. His strikeout rate has gone down from 41% in 2014, 30% in 2015, to 22% this season. His spot on the roster is quite valuable, as pureoc said, since he can play anywhere in the field. If we didn't have him right now, we'd have La Stella & Bryant platooning at 3B and OF. And while I prefer Bryant in left, and see La Stella's value as a late-inning defensive substitution, if that was our every day lineup, we'd be in a lot worse shape offensively!

Do you really think soler is good enough to get Chapman? If the Yankees think so, then great, make the deal now. Baez career average is .240. I didn't pull that number up out of thin air. That includes his .286 average so far this year. His k rate has dropped, I'll give him that. I simply think Baez has the tools and is good enough to get a stud closer without losing too much. He's replaceable. Look at the cubs top 10 prospects. 7 of them are position players that can do exactly what baez is doing.

lolobugg

Degeneratefk said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Degeneratefk said:

pureoc said:

No way I'd trade Baez. You basically cover yourself from 1 big injury with him on roster since he can play anywhere in field. Huge asset for an nl team. Above avg defender anywhere you put him. Guy can prob be a .275 hitter and hit 20-25 hrs. Currently. 286 and 9 hrs snd he doesn't play everyday, although he should.

If he played everyday, he'd be a .240 hitter.

Anyway, I think he's tradeable. Theo loves schwarber. He's not moving. Who else could you trade to get a Chapman or a miller?

Miller is not even a question. The Yanks have him for 3 or 4 more years at low cost, no way they give him up unless they get a blockbuster in return. Trade Soler for Chapman. Keep Baez. Saying he'd be a .240 hitter if he played every day is complete conjecture. He might be a .300 hitter if he started daily. His strikeout rate has gone down from 41% in 2014, 30% in 2015, to 22% this season. His spot on the roster is quite valuable, as pureoc said, since he can play anywhere in the field. If we didn't have him right now, we'd have La Stella & Bryant platooning at 3B and OF. And while I prefer Bryant in left, and see La Stella's value as a late-inning defensive substitution, if that was our every day lineup, we'd be in a lot worse shape offensively!

Do you really think soler is good enough to get Chapman? If the Yankees think so, then great, make the deal now. Baez career average is .240. I didn't pull that number up out of thin air. That includes his .286 average so far this year. His k rate has dropped, I'll give him that. I simply think Baez has the tools and is good enough to get a stud closer without losing too much. He's replaceable. Look at the cubs top 10 prospects. 7 of them are position players that can do exactly what baez is doing.

I wouldn't think that the Yankees would do that deal for Soler.
If so they need to make it happen now.

mca47

No way they're giving up Chapman for Soler.

HesCalledDyer

That .240 is because of his horrendous .196 in 2014, when he struck out half the time. He went .285 in his short stint last year and .286 this season... so he's been pretty consistent lately, while dropping his K rate. His OBP has stayed consistent between last year and this year, too. He still needs to learn to take more walks, though.

darwinstheory

mca47 said:

No way they're giving up Chapman for Soler.

It may be feasible on August 1st. The Yankees are going nowhere. They just have to value what the Nationals (or any other team) offer as being less than Soler.

pureoc

Going to the game tonight, not overly excited Hammel is starting. Hoping he's not 2nd half Hammel. Also hoping Dexter returns atop the lineup.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

pureoc said:

Going to the game tonight, not overly excited Hammel is starting. Hoping he's not 2nd half Hammel. Also hoping Dexter returns atop the lineup.

I couldn't get 1 friend of mine to travel to Milwaukee this weekend!!

Fuckers! Hahaha

Have fun tonight.

Degeneratefk

I thunk once fowler returns, through cubs will be just fine. Not that he's the heart and soul of the lineup, be he's definitely a spark plug

HesCalledDyer

He is definitely the lynch pin of the lineup this season. Without him we have a platooned outfield, no true leadoff man, and less depth from the bench.

pureoc

Fowler leading off tonight.

Degeneratefk

pureoc said:

Fowler leading off tonight.

HesCalledDyer

Yeah, didn't miss that guy or anything!

Degeneratefk

HesCalledDyer said:

Yeah, didn't miss that guy or anything!

No shit. Spark Plug

pureoc

Nice to see a Cubs W. 3 and 0 for my games this year! Anyone else super impressed by Contreras throw on the fly from the lf warning track to montero that unfortunately montero dropped? Unfortunately soler or even worse coghlan will probably force contreras back to aaa when they are healthy. Id much rather contreras stay. Definitely hope he makes playoff roster. He's very versatile.