and you have said so little in so many pages it's mind boggling.
another way to say hindsight is 20/20 and most regret something
Do you know something of that yourself? Perhaps...
well what does that say about you spending soooo much time reading and then always replying that is even more mind boggling wouldn't you say?
do I know something of what? what the hell are you talking about? I spend so much time reading trying to understand your point of view, because I can't for the life of me understand your line of thinking.
I can at least understand the pro-second amendment side. But many of them have a rational way of expressing it.
Kind of like how scientists study monkeys. Even though a monkey keeps doing the same damn thing over and over, and all the while the monkey is thinking "they must really think I'm superior spending all this time looking at me". The scientists keep trying. is it futile? Maybe.
this sure as hell has been.
hey don't do me any favors
just ignore most especially since understanding is not your motive
do I know something of what? what the hell are you talking about? I spend so much time reading trying to understand your point of view, because I can't for the life of me understand your line of thinking.
I can at least understand the pro-second amendment side. But many of them have a rational way of expressing it.
Kind of like how scientists study monkeys. Even though a monkey keeps doing the same damn thing over and over, and all the while the monkey is thinking "they must really think I'm superior spending all this time looking at me". The scientists keep trying. is it futile? Maybe.
this sure as hell has been.
You see Hugh THIS is why I posted this...*There's just some men you can't reach...*
Add to TBU list... strict and thorough background checks, mandatory licensing. Make all sellers 'licensed' - having to go through the same procedure for selling firearms. No more 'no questions asked' when purchasing firearms at gun shows, via the internet, etc. Just close the loophole.
But hey... if it's cars that some understand, let's talk cars/guns then.... :roll:
It has been shown that there are much more controls in obtaining a license to drive a car than there are in being able to obtain a gun. Why not just simply apply the rules for potential car drivers to potential gun users... Via a 'licensed broker' only, thorough checks (giving all details, including social security number, proof of identity/residency, etc.), apply/get goods in person (not via internet), written test (making sure one understands the 'laws' of ownership, how to store arms, etc.), practical test (making sure one can effectively use a gun), revoking of said licence if conditions no longer met... For starters. Then, keeping with the driving 'theme' - as there are different types of licenses depending on the vehicle you wish to drive and the use of this vehicle, let's do the same for guns. 'Basic' licence for guns in the home used for 'protection', another one for those wanting more than that (comparable to non commercial class a or b licenses) and then for those who think they need assault rifles, etc. another step comparable to the commercial driver license which requires a medical.
I don't hear anyone crying blue murder about these these checks, tests, 'restrictions' for the car. No one saying it is taking away their freedom, etc.; and it doesn't seem to stop 'responsible' car owners/drivers from getting what they want so what would be the problem with applying the same stringent rules to gun ownership? How about that? Sensible enough? Laws/restrictions already accepted by 'all' so no issues, right?
Is this what you have in the land you call home? Or do you still call the US home and vote here?
I see your outline here is what you wish for the world.... yes?
I'm going to be sure to get out and vote
I had a sneaking suspicion you were American, funny about the hindsight thing,
bet it feels better to be forthcoming...
I have been told this by others that honesty is the best policy even here.
I think this has something to do with one's moral compass, they said.
Made sense yes?
Is this what you have in the land you call home? Or do you still call the US home and vote here?
I see your outline here is what you wish for the world.... yes?
I'm going to be sure to get out and vote
I had a sneaking suspicion you were American, funny about the hindsight thing,
bet it feels better to be forthcoming...
I have been told this by others that honesty is the best policy even here.
I think this has something to do with one's moral compass, they said.
Made sense yes?
You are being extremely obnoxious - true colours revealed. Since you want to make this about me and my nationality - I have never 'hidden' it, even mentioned it a number of times but in context. Even in a very recent thread about voting.
But why would it matter? Why would you have 'sneaky suspicions' as if my citizenship is questionable? A latent xenophobic? Would you like to know what colour my skin is?
Honesty? Moral compass? You are just trying to get out of a very embarrassing post for you and you are getting in deeper and deeper. There is absolutely no reason for me (or anyone) to have to first 'disclose' nationality/religion/sexual preferences or anything else on this forum before posting in a thread. If one wishes to do so in context, that is fine.
You really outdid yourself with this one. :roll: Can you come up with more of a personal attack? Have you no other arguments?
Is this what you have in the land you call home? Or do you still call the US home and vote here?
I see your outline here is what you wish for the world.... yes?
I'm going to be sure to get out and vote
I had a sneaking suspicion you were American, funny about the hindsight thing,
bet it feels better to be forthcoming...
I have been told this by others that honesty is the best policy even here.
I think this has something to do with one's moral compass, they said.
Made sense yes?
You are being extremely obnoxious - true colours revealed. Since you want to make this about me and my nationality - I have never 'hidden' it, even mentioned it a number of times but in context. Even in a very recent thread about voting.
But why would it matter? Why would you have 'sneaky suspicions' as if my citizenship is questionable? A latent xenophobic? Would you like to know what colour my skin is?
Honesty? Moral compass? You are just trying to get out of a very embarrassing post for you and you are getting in deeper and deeper. There is absolutely no reason for me (or anyone) to have to first 'disclose' nationality/religion/sexual preferences or anything else on this forum before posting in a thread. If one wishes to do so in context, that is fine.
You really outdid yourself with this one. :roll: Can you come up with more of a personal attack? Have you no other arguments?
You have the nerve to call that a personal attack really...
after all that you talk about me? You are joking perhaps.
How come you can't just answer the questions posed to you?...
I do happily
It is nothing personal]it is about the topic of gun laws and what you want in America
that you posted here ...
is that what you have now in your country of choice?
Is that the model for what you want for America and the world?
I think that is a very viable question. And how the heck is that an attack? :?
SPARKS, NEV.—Police say a man accidentally shot himself in the buttocks at a Nevada movie theatre during a showing of “The Bourne Legacy.”
Police in Sparks, Nev., say the 56-year-old man’s injuries are not life-threatening and no others were hurt.
Authorities say the man had a permit to carry a concealed firearm. The man told officers the gun fell from his pocket Tuesday night as he was adjusting himself in the seat and that it discharged when it dropped to the floor.
Authorities say the case will be sent to the city attorney for possible charges.
The incident comes less than a month after a shooting at a suburban Denver theatre that left 12 dead and 58 injured.
SPARKS, NEV.—Police say a man accidentally shot himself in the buttocks at a Nevada movie theatre during a showing of “The Bourne Legacy.”
Police in Sparks, Nev., say the 56-year-old man’s injuries are not life-threatening and no others were hurt.
Authorities say the man had a permit to carry a concealed firearm. The man told officers the gun fell from his pocket Tuesday night as he was adjusting himself in the seat and that it discharged when it dropped to the floor.
Authorities say the case will be sent to the city attorney for possible charges.
The incident comes less than a month after a shooting at a suburban Denver theatre that left 12 dead and 58 injured.
current gun laws in the united states are not working. simple dimple pimple. change some shit and in a hurry before many hundreds and many thousands keep on dying. to say we haven't a gun issue and to say we need not tweek laws and bring new laws out of the woodwork is fucking nuts.
1. folks who own 300 guns are bullshit
2. owning a old family hunting rifle or shotgun is acceptable
3. owning 17 assault rifles is bunk as fuck and maybe the owners of said weapons should have their teeth kicked in for being a dipshit fucking hillbilly redneck fucking asshole
4. gun freaks make me nervous and generally they know almost zero about their arsenal in their bunker
SPARKS, NEV.—Police say a man accidentally shot himself in the buttocks at a Nevada movie theatre during a showing of “The Bourne Legacy.”
Police in Sparks, Nev., say the 56-year-old man’s injuries are not life-threatening and no others were hurt.
Authorities say the man had a permit to carry a concealed firearm. The man told officers the gun fell from his pocket Tuesday night as he was adjusting himself in the seat and that it discharged when it dropped to the floor.
Authorities say the case will be sent to the city attorney for possible charges.
The incident comes less than a month after a shooting at a suburban Denver theatre that left 12 dead and 58 injured.
Is this what you have in the land you call home? Or do you still call the US home and vote here?
I see your outline here is what you wish for the world.... yes?
I'm going to be sure to get out and vote
I had a sneaking suspicion you were American, funny about the hindsight thing,
bet it feels better to be forthcoming...
I have been told this by others that honesty is the best policy even here.
I think this has something to do with one's moral compass, they said.
Made sense yes?
You are being extremely obnoxious - true colours revealed. Since you want to make this about me and my nationality - I have never 'hidden' it, even mentioned it a number of times but in context. Even in a very recent thread about voting.
But why would it matter? Why would you have 'sneaky suspicions' as if my citizenship is questionable? A latent xenophobic? Would you like to know what colour my skin is?
Honesty? Moral compass? You are just trying to get out of a very embarrassing post for you and you are getting in deeper and deeper. There is absolutely no reason for me (or anyone) to have to first 'disclose' nationality/religion/sexual preferences or anything else on this forum before posting in a thread. If one wishes to do so in context, that is fine.
You really outdid yourself with this one. :roll: Can you come up with more of a personal attack? Have you no other arguments?
This is no different than myself being called out for being insulting and without understanding. I meant to call Pandora on her sensitivity but i let it go cause i can handle some of her comments. Stop trying to control the fricking board leave it to the moderators and please get OVER your high and mighty self. A problem with one's words report it like you usually do and carry on with this crusade. I'm done, moderators please blow this MFing thread up....it's getting ridiculous. Thank you.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
SPARKS, NEV.—Police say a man accidentally shot himself in the buttocks at a Nevada movie theatre during a showing of “The Bourne Legacy.”
Police in Sparks, Nev., say the 56-year-old man’s injuries are not life-threatening and no others were hurt.
Authorities say the man had a permit to carry a concealed firearm. The man told officers the gun fell from his pocket Tuesday night as he was adjusting himself in the seat and that it discharged when it dropped to the floor.
Authorities say the case will be sent to the city attorney for possible charges.
The incident comes less than a month after a shooting at a suburban Denver theatre that left 12 dead and 58 injured.
I should not have laughed I'm sorry not funny... but I did but shouldn't have... :oops:
but the fact that your gut reaction was to LAUGH is very telling about your lack of respect and awareness for the grave situation this could have ended up as.
glad the stupid fuck shot himself and not someone else.
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St. Paul 2014
Izhmash benefits from American gun laws that are looser than in its home market. In Russia, consumers can buy a long-barreled firearm only with a police permit, which requires a clean criminal sheet, a diploma from a gun safety course and a medical certificate of sanity. In the United States, laws vary by state, but buyers often need to clear only an F.B.I. criminal background check.
^^^interesting laws in Russia concerning the mental state discussion going around here.
It was both frustrating and a relief to police and the family when Courtois was finally arrested for speeding down the highway to what could have been a tragedy. Police found an AK-47, handguns and several boxes of ammunition in Courtois' car as he drove toward New Hampshire, he reportedly told police, to shoot a former employer.
It appears in Mr Courtois's case he has to shoot up or kill several people BEFORE he's deemed mentally ill. Luckly he chose to speed and got caught which appears to have saved several people's lives. Man are we ever working backwards in this country on our gun laws. However, like some here would want let's have a free for all since criminals will ALWAYS get there guns.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
This is no different than myself being called out for being insulting and without understanding. I meant to call Pandora on her sensitivity but i let it go cause i can handle some of her comments. Stop trying to control the fricking board leave it to the moderators and please get OVER your high and mighty self. A problem with one's words report it like you usually do and carry on with this crusade. I'm done, moderators please blow this MFing thread up....it's getting ridiculous. Thank you.
Peace
How am I trying to control the board? How was I insensitive?
Be prepared to discuss others behavior and yours also.
I have not had a problem in this thread with anyone's words,
I point them out so the mods and others can see and I carry on. I am accustomed to this by now.
Actually since you posted this others have posted interesting articles ....
Gun laws don't stop crazy sorry, I know many here think that is the answer.
Gun laws only keep responsible gun owners without
their rights intact.
All gun opponents want to do is take away guns from the law abiding.
Each time I ask what would you do to solve the problem the answer is removing rights to own guns.
Of course gun laws dont stop crazy..nobody has said that. Many of us just think things arent working very well as is, and perhaps we can reduce the carnage if some weapons were simply not so easily accessible. Isnt it worth a try? A tiny attempt to save people?
Remember, I was nearly shot in the head by one of the most respected, responsible people I know.
I don't remember were they cleaning their gun? Target practice?
Bad guy around?
That is something that just doesn't usually happen unless someone
is untrained to some degree, unprepared with a gun.
He had training and tons of experience. He won several shooting competitions. In fact, the shotgun he was using was a prize from a competition. He was unloading the gun to disassemble it and didnt realize there was still a round in the chamber. He is honestly one of my most responsible friends. But he was young at the time, and People make mistakes.
Izhmash benefits from American gun laws that are looser than in its home market. In Russia, consumers can buy a long-barreled firearm only with a police permit, which requires a clean criminal sheet, a diploma from a gun safety course and a medical certificate of sanity. In the United States, laws vary by state, but buyers often need to clear only an F.B.I. criminal background check.
^^^interesting laws in Russia concerning the mental state discussion going around here.
great article thanks Jonny, you mention only ...
one would think an FBI background check would include all the above requirements
that Russia has except perhaps gun safety and permit?
"Russian weapons accounted for a tiny portion of the $4.3 billion American gun market last year"
This is big business indeed.I read somewhere but don't have the quote
that gun ownership is actually down but that owners are owning more guns per person,
per household.
Maybe the turn in our economy, the broadening gap in economic status with the middle
not the middle any more, the massive lack of faith in leadership coulped with trust
almost gone ... more are preparing for civil war or at the least great unrest.
I guess that is the height of preparedness.
and what does this mean? ...
"Russia begins a $613 billion rearmament program, financed by oil money."
Does this mean their military then? to protect the country from war and
which is also used to control their citizens as in the case of the US.
Remember, I was nearly shot in the head by one of the most respected, responsible people I know.
I don't remember were they cleaning their gun? Target practice?
Bad guy around?
That is something that just doesn't usually happen unless someone
is untrained to some degree, unprepared with a gun.
He had training and tons of experience. He won several shooting competitions. In fact, the shotgun he was using was a prize from a competition. He was unloading the gun to disassemble it and didnt realize there was still a round in the chamber. He is honestly one of my most responsible friends. But he was young at the time, and People make mistakes.
Izhmash benefits from American gun laws that are looser than in its home market. In Russia, consumers can buy a long-barreled firearm only with a police permit, which requires a clean criminal sheet, a diploma from a gun safety course and a medical certificate of sanity. In the United States, laws vary by state, but buyers often need to clear only an F.B.I. criminal background check.
^^^interesting laws in Russia concerning the mental state discussion going around here.
great article thanks Jonny, you mention only ...
one would think an FBI background check would include all the above requirements
that Russia has except perhaps gun safety and permit?
"Russian weapons accounted for a tiny portion of the $4.3 billion American gun market last year"
This is big business indeed.I read somewhere but don't have the quote
that gun ownership is actually down but that owners are owning more guns per person,
per household.
Maybe the turn in our economy, the broadening gap in economic status with the middle
not the middle any more, the massive lack of faith in leadership coulped with trust
almost gone ... more are preparing for civil war or at the least great unrest.
I guess that is the height of preparedness.
and what does this mean? ...
"Russia begins a $613 billion rearmament program, financed by oil money."
Does this mean their military then? to protect the country from war and
which is also used to control their citizens as in the case of the US.
Those arent my words (your mention of the 'only FBI check")...they were lifted from the article... As far as the FBI thing, I dont think that is accurate. I thought i saw in many places that background check is not required.
And as far as gun ownership being down, it could be correct in this economy, but I don't know. I would think that with a down economy, people would asses needs vs. wants, and possible realize that another gun is not a necessity.
I was reading about the latest in unreal shootings at the Batman movie in Aurora and it just makes me so sad. This follows the Anders Brevik shootings in Norway, people are now just walking into random places and killing innocent people all around them showing no emotion.
While I appreciate these things are still unusual and rare, does anyone else feel like common decency is dissappearing and a lack of respect for people around you and a lack of values is causing more deaths and violence all about the place.
We recently had a Swedish House Mafia concert in Dublin and by the end of the event 9 people had been stabbed, 3 died of overdoses, there were brawls of up to 50 people in the streets, people were arrested for indecent behaviour for actually having sex in the middle of the food area (more than one set of people). This was unheard of, and yet no one was really that surprised because the way 'younger' people are acting at the moment it was only a matter of time (not all young people and no i'm not 100)
I would consider myself quite liberal about most things but the loss of 'please' and 'thank you' from common vocabulary is the start of the end as far as I'm concerned. People dont seem to have time to smile and say thank you any more or to step back and allow someone through the door in front of them or to hold it open for the person coming behind them. People nearly look surprised and suspicious when you hold a door open these days.....
anyway sorry about the ramble but it just makes me so sad that we have reached a point where some people hold others lives in their hands and consider them worthless!
no pictures of the sex???
as for the shootings... that'll continue forevermore... so no point getting involved in that. Americans love guns more than they love their kids, their flags and their horrible taste in soft furnishings.... so, these shootings will happen again and again and again.
As for the kids in Dublin... well thats just like wee fudds over here in the UK.. I once had a 15 year old kid walk into my garden, piss up against the wall as my young girls played in the back garden... once confronted by me the youth got highly aggressive and started to kick my car.
20 years ago, 15 year old or not, I would have punched him so hard in the face he would have been eating magma through his arsehole
today... well the police told me after they arrived that I did the right thing not hitting him as I would have been arrested and charged with assault.
I'm only 38 but teenagers have no fear of law here... police are helpless due to human rights accusations, police brutality queries, red tape, bureaucracy, etc
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Gun laws don't stop crazy sorry, I know many here think that is the answer.
Gun laws only keep responsible gun owners without
their rights intact.
All gun opponents want to do is take away guns from the law abiding.
Each time I ask what would you do to solve the problem the answer is removing rights to own guns.
Of course gun laws dont stop crazy..nobody has said that. Many of us just think things arent working very well as is, and perhaps we can reduce the carnage if some weapons were simply not so easily accessible. Isnt it worth a try? A tiny attempt to save people?
Save people? if we really care about that we would address the cause of these shootings. Why are people shooting?
Mental illness in all forms are hurting our society in so many ways.
The homeless left to the streets, many mentally ill, untreated.
The children left behind from young on, undiagnosed.
Those children that turn to crime because of this, turn to drugs.
The domestic violence founded in the root of mental illness.
I could go on and on.
Violence and crime will not go away until we address proper and easily available
treatment for all.
Crazy is not because there are guns, crazy just uses guns, irresponsibly
the sane do too ... responsibly.
Let's really fix the problem and get help for the mentally ill.
At least 131. I'm banking on 140 by the end of the day tomorrow. :silent:
I lost my own damn bet! ...and thinking your take might be right on.
(morning, dunkman!)
:wave: hey there hedonist
long time no party naked
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Gun laws don't stop crazy sorry, I know many here think that is the answer.
Gun laws only keep responsible gun owners without
their rights intact.
All gun opponents want to do is take away guns from the law abiding.
Each time I ask what would you do to solve the problem the answer is removing rights to own guns.
Of course gun laws dont stop crazy..nobody has said that. Many of us just think things arent working very well as is, and perhaps we can reduce the carnage if some weapons were simply not so easily accessible. Isnt it worth a try? A tiny attempt to save people?
Save people? if we really care about that we would address the cause of these shootings. Why are people shooting?
Mental illness in all forms are hurting our society in so many ways.
The homeless left to the streets, many mentally ill, untreated.
The children left behind from young on, undiagnosed.
Those children that turn to crime because of this, turn to drugs.
The domestic violence founded in the root of mental illness.
I could go on and on.
Violence and crime will not go away until we address proper and easily available
treatment for all.
Crazy is not because there are guns, crazy just uses guns, irresponsibly
the sane do too ... responsibly.
Let's really fix the problem and get help for the mentally ill.
Yes, definitely save people. And I agree, coupled with better, more readily available health care, we could possibly reduce unnecessary violence.
Btw, I saw PJsouls post a few pages back, and thought that there are many different reasons that some law tweaks could help:
Note: If it hadn't been as easy for Holmes to get the ammo and weapons, it would have taken him longer, and by then that psychiatrist would have received that letter or whatever it was he sent to her, and she would have alerted authorities, and he never would have been able to go on a shooting rampage in the first place. Yay.
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hey don't do me any favors
just ignore most especially since understanding is not your motive
just a line of crapola
I see your outline here is what you wish for the world.... yes?
I'm going to be sure to get out and vote
I had a sneaking suspicion you were American, funny about the hindsight thing,
bet it feels better to be forthcoming...
I have been told this by others that honesty is the best policy even here.
I think this has something to do with one's moral compass, they said.
Made sense yes?
You are being extremely obnoxious - true colours revealed. Since you want to make this about me and my nationality - I have never 'hidden' it, even mentioned it a number of times but in context. Even in a very recent thread about voting.
But why would it matter? Why would you have 'sneaky suspicions' as if my citizenship is questionable? A latent xenophobic? Would you like to know what colour my skin is?
Honesty? Moral compass? You are just trying to get out of a very embarrassing post for you and you are getting in deeper and deeper. There is absolutely no reason for me (or anyone) to have to first 'disclose' nationality/religion/sexual preferences or anything else on this forum before posting in a thread. If one wishes to do so in context, that is fine.
You really outdid yourself with this one. :roll: Can you come up with more of a personal attack? Have you no other arguments?
after all that you talk about me? You are joking perhaps.
How come you can't just answer the questions posed to you?...
I do happily
It is nothing personal]it is about the topic of gun laws and what you want in America
that you posted here ...
is that what you have now in your country of choice?
Is that the model for what you want for America and the world?
I think that is a very viable question. And how the heck is that an attack? :?
If anything it is sharing your experiences.
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/artic ... ie-theatre
SPARKS, NEV.—Police say a man accidentally shot himself in the buttocks at a Nevada movie theatre during a showing of “The Bourne Legacy.”
Police in Sparks, Nev., say the 56-year-old man’s injuries are not life-threatening and no others were hurt.
Authorities say the man had a permit to carry a concealed firearm. The man told officers the gun fell from his pocket Tuesday night as he was adjusting himself in the seat and that it discharged when it dropped to the floor.
Authorities say the case will be sent to the city attorney for possible charges.
The incident comes less than a month after a shooting at a suburban Denver theatre that left 12 dead and 58 injured.
http://www.usacarry.com/colorado_concea ... ation.html
Someone mentioned the theatre had no firearms allowed don't know if that is true...
must be a sign posted ... as it says in above link
Digging in deeper. No twisting your words/meanings will change anything you wrote.
Just drop Pandora. Now. I mean it.
1. folks who own 300 guns are bullshit
2. owning a old family hunting rifle or shotgun is acceptable
3. owning 17 assault rifles is bunk as fuck and maybe the owners of said weapons should have their teeth kicked in for being a dipshit fucking hillbilly redneck fucking asshole
4. gun freaks make me nervous and generally they know almost zero about their arsenal in their bunker
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
:roll:
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But I thought all these conceal permit owners were responsible. He could have just as easily killed someone else. He should go to jail like Plaxico.
This is no different than myself being called out for being insulting and without understanding. I meant to call Pandora on her sensitivity but i let it go cause i can handle some of her comments. Stop trying to control the fricking board leave it to the moderators and please get OVER your high and mighty self. A problem with one's words report it like you usually do and carry on with this crusade. I'm done, moderators please blow this MFing thread up....it's getting ridiculous. Thank you.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
so carrying and concealing a gun in public is legal. and actually fucking encouraged.
dropping it can cause you to go to jail or even kill someone.
yeah, good laws there.
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Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
but the fact that your gut reaction was to LAUGH is very telling about your lack of respect and awareness for the grave situation this could have ended up as.
glad the stupid fuck shot himself and not someone else.
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Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
probably right above the sign that says "no outside food or drink". and we know how many people adhere to that. :fp:
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Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48670593/ns ... CujulZmTFk
Izhmash benefits from American gun laws that are looser than in its home market. In Russia, consumers can buy a long-barreled firearm only with a police permit, which requires a clean criminal sheet, a diploma from a gun safety course and a medical certificate of sanity. In the United States, laws vary by state, but buyers often need to clear only an F.B.I. criminal background check.
^^^interesting laws in Russia concerning the mental state discussion going around here.
It appears in Mr Courtois's case he has to shoot up or kill several people BEFORE he's deemed mentally ill. Luckly he chose to speed and got caught which appears to have saved several people's lives. Man are we ever working backwards in this country on our gun laws. However, like some here would want let's have a free for all since criminals will ALWAYS get there guns.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Be prepared to discuss others behavior and yours also.
I have not had a problem in this thread with anyone's words,
I point them out so the mods and others can see and I carry on.
I am accustomed to this by now.
Actually since you posted this others have posted interesting articles ....
so....
carry on with the topic.
Of course gun laws dont stop crazy..nobody has said that. Many of us just think things arent working very well as is, and perhaps we can reduce the carnage if some weapons were simply not so easily accessible. Isnt it worth a try? A tiny attempt to save people?
He had training and tons of experience. He won several shooting competitions. In fact, the shotgun he was using was a prize from a competition. He was unloading the gun to disassemble it and didnt realize there was still a round in the chamber. He is honestly one of my most responsible friends. But he was young at the time, and People make mistakes.
one would think an FBI background check would include all the above requirements
that Russia has except perhaps gun safety and permit?
"Russian weapons accounted for a tiny portion of the $4.3 billion American gun market last year"
This is big business indeed.I read somewhere but don't have the quote
that gun ownership is actually down but that owners are owning more guns per person,
per household.
Maybe the turn in our economy, the broadening gap in economic status with the middle
not the middle any more, the massive lack of faith in leadership coulped with trust
almost gone ... more are preparing for civil war or at the least great unrest.
I guess that is the height of preparedness.
and what does this mean? ...
"Russia begins a $613 billion rearmament program, financed by oil money."
Does this mean their military then? to protect the country from war and
which is also used to control their citizens as in the case of the US.
and that is all I will say ...
Those arent my words (your mention of the 'only FBI check")...they were lifted from the article... As far as the FBI thing, I dont think that is accurate. I thought i saw in many places that background check is not required.
And as far as gun ownership being down, it could be correct in this economy, but I don't know. I would think that with a down economy, people would asses needs vs. wants, and possible realize that another gun is not a necessity.
no pictures of the sex???
as for the shootings... that'll continue forevermore... so no point getting involved in that. Americans love guns more than they love their kids, their flags and their horrible taste in soft furnishings.... so, these shootings will happen again and again and again.
As for the kids in Dublin... well thats just like wee fudds over here in the UK.. I once had a 15 year old kid walk into my garden, piss up against the wall as my young girls played in the back garden... once confronted by me the youth got highly aggressive and started to kick my car.
20 years ago, 15 year old or not, I would have punched him so hard in the face he would have been eating magma through his arsehole
today... well the police told me after they arrived that I did the right thing not hitting him as I would have been arrested and charged with assault.
I'm only 38 but teenagers have no fear of law here... police are helpless due to human rights accusations, police brutality queries, red tape, bureaucracy, etc
(morning, dunkman!)
Why are people shooting?
Mental illness in all forms are hurting our society in so many ways.
The homeless left to the streets, many mentally ill, untreated.
The children left behind from young on, undiagnosed.
Those children that turn to crime because of this, turn to drugs.
The domestic violence founded in the root of mental illness.
I could go on and on.
Violence and crime will not go away until we address proper and easily available
treatment for all.
Crazy is not because there are guns, crazy just uses guns, irresponsibly
the sane do too ... responsibly.
Let's really fix the problem and get help for the mentally ill.
:wave: hey there hedonist
long time no party naked
Yes, definitely save people. And I agree, coupled with better, more readily available health care, we could possibly reduce unnecessary violence.
Btw, I saw PJsouls post a few pages back, and thought that there are many different reasons that some law tweaks could help: