They kill a lot more people every day then they save. You would need 8,000 stories like that each year to make up for the gun murders we have.
I agree. A few months back I said in a gun thread that I see about two reports a month in Florida of accidental shootings. People did not believe me until I started linking the stories I saw. And most of these are involving kids and teenagers. The bad FAR outweigh the hero's who use their guns to defend. However, the simple fact that people own guns might keep people from robbing others, i'll admit that, but we'll never know that statistic.
And regarding the Arizona shooter/Giffords account -- There was a man there that was armed. He took his gun out (I believe), but was unable to identify the target because of all the commotion. AND he was concerned that the police would show up and see him with his weapon drawn. Personally, I think more guns in mass shootings is asinine. But people having guns to defend themselves in gas station robberies and whatnot are a hoot.
ONE LIFE SAVED is all that matters! just ask that one life and their loved ones
yeah its a hoot... a dead gas station attendant :wtf: what don't you guys get...
people don't want to die and they are willing to fight back.
again your scenario poor 89 year old Miss Ruby would be a goner but then
I think it might be more helpful to know their approximate ages, weights, heights, builds, distinguishing characteristics, were they shaved or unshaven, etc. you know, the things that are usually included if a description is being given to actually help identify someone. Describing me as a medium toned white woman would help people distinguish me from just about no one
:? They include race in descriptions ...it's usually the first thing right before gender
a black male
a hispanic male
a white female
an asian female
a white child
a hispanic child
etc etc
do we think that is racist...
come on now that is ridiculous yes?
Seriously! If I ever live in a city where I feel like I need a gun to be safe then I'm fucking moving ASAP!
Like I mentioned I'm glad others don't feel a need to have a gun in their home.
And yes this would be a direct relation to the level of crime in their city.
Atlanta has been very good to us and we will fight to make it better.
Not run away.
Not run away. hmmm, such an interesting way to put it. You have explained how your area is very dangerous with guns and machetes everywhere, yet you don't own a gun. So you wont move or buy a gun...then is your immediate area safe? How are you fighting to make gun violence better?
I'll admit, as I did in my PM, I have up and moved. I came to my last straw. Too much gun violence in my hood. I've abandoned my house and moved to a better neighborhood. For the last two years, as much as I oppose guns, I contemplated getting one. I'm glad I found a better way to escape it than to cave in and cater to the American mentality that more guns is better. I just cant subscribe to that so I did what I could to avoid it. Plus, I cant imaging my wife as a quick-draw and/or in a shootout. So we moved. Just a few weeks ago in my old neighborhood, (my old place is in short sale), there was a gunfight in the street. One building riddled with bullets. I think there get to be a point where you just cant do anything but escape it.
They kill a lot more people every day then they save. You would need 8,000 stories like that each year to make up for the gun murders we have.
I agree. A few months back I said in a gun thread that I see about two reports a month in Florida of accidental shootings. People did not believe me until I started linking the stories I saw. And most of these are involving kids and teenagers. The bad FAR outweigh the hero's who use their guns to defend. However, the simple fact that people own guns might keep people from robbing others, i'll admit that, but we'll never know that statistic.
And regarding the Arizona shooter/Giffords account -- There was a man there that was armed. He took his gun out (I believe), but was unable to identify the target because of all the commotion. AND he was concerned that the police would show up and see him with his weapon drawn. Personally, I think more guns in mass shootings is asinine. But people having guns to defend themselves in gas station robberies and whatnot are a hoot.
ONE LIFE SAVED is all that matters! just ask that one life and their loved ones
yeah its a hoot... a dead gas station attendant :wtf: what don't you guys get...
people don't want to die and they are willing to fight back.
again your scenario poor 89 year old Miss Ruby would be a goner but then
you guys don't like guns ... that is the hoot
Honestly, that one little old lady saved, does not amount to the slew of children I hear of that are shot and killed accidentally. And that's just accidents. Not even close.
And maybe I should've reworded it about the gas station attendant - If he/she has to defend themselves with a gun I think that's fine (a hoot). But I've seen most convenience stores around here are getting glass bulletproof barriers for cashiers. Smarter than guns. I think you keep forgetting, I still believe handguns should be legal of course. :?
I think it might be more helpful to know their approximate ages, weights, heights, builds, distinguishing characteristics, were they shaved or unshaven, etc. you know, the things that are usually included if a description is being given to actually help identify someone. Describing me as a medium toned white woman would help people distinguish me from just about no one
:? They include race in descriptions ...it's usually the first thing right before gender
a black male
a hispanic male
a white female
an asian female
a white child
a hispanic child
etc etc
do we think that is racist...
come on now that is ridiculous yes?
that is someones race and that describes them
Pandora - of course race is an important part of a description, but it's only one piece. That alone tells us nothing and when that's the ONLY descriptor mentioned its not helpful
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
I think it might be more helpful to know their approximate ages, weights, heights, builds, distinguishing characteristics, were they shaved or unshaven, etc. you know, the things that are usually included if a description is being given to actually help identify someone. Describing me as a medium toned white woman would help people distinguish me from just about no one
:? They include race in descriptions ...it's usually the first thing right before gender
a black male
a hispanic male
a white female
an asian female
a white child
a hispanic child
etc etc
do we think that is racist...
come on now that is ridiculous yes?
that is someones race and that describes them
Pandora - of course race is an important part of a description, but it's only one piece. That alone tells us nothing and when that's the ONLY descriptor mentioned its not helpful
I agree one part of a description but she's 89 and suddenly awoken from sleep ...
I don't think she had anymore details to give.
I'd like to think I at 56 would keep it together enough to offer more
but who knows when you think you are going to die in a split second.
I agree one part of a description but she's 89 and suddenly awoken from sleep ...
I don't think she had anymore details to give.
I'd like to think I at 56 would keep it together enough to offer more
but who knows when you think you are going to die in a split second.
Quite true. Trauma completely changes how we remember and recall things. However, that has nothing to do with my original point. Our experiences and individual lives shape the lense through which we see the world. Having different lenses is what makes life interesting. This is probably one of those things that we'll have to agree to have different opinions about.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Seriously! If I ever live in a city where I feel like I need a gun to be safe then I'm fucking moving ASAP!
Like I mentioned I'm glad others don't feel a need to have a gun in their home.
And yes this would be a direct relation to the level of crime in their city.
Atlanta has been very good to us and we will fight to make it better.
Not run away.
Not run away. hmmm, such an interesting way to put it. You have explained how your area is very dangerous with guns and machetes everywhere, yet you don't own a gun. So you wont move or buy a gun...then is your immediate area safe? How are you fighting to make gun violence better?
I'll admit, as I did in my PM, I have up and moved. I came to my last straw. Too much gun violence in my hood. I've abandoned my house and moved to a better neighborhood. For the last two years, as much as I oppose guns, I contemplated getting one. I'm glad I found a better way to escape it than to cave in and cater to the American mentality that more guns is better. I just cant subscribe to that so I did what I could to avoid it. Plus, I cant imaging my wife as a quick-draw and/or in a shootout. So we moved. Just a few weeks ago in my old neighborhood, (my old place is in short sale), there was a gunfight in the street. One building riddled with bullets. I think there get to be a point where you just cant do anything but escape it.
Yes I was glad you moved Jonny this a good fit for you. And a happy time for you
We are in a great neighborhood, very upper class, so much so a target I'm afraid.
We have some detectives and sheriffs moving in though so their presence is very welcome.
Our house is on the market but we will stay in the general area as our biz is moved here now,
a short 5 mile drive.
Matters not really crime happens everywhere anyways. For some a means of income
so crime goes to the best of neighborhoods.
I speak of what others deal with in all parts of Atl. though and if you read between the lines
I said I personally didn't own a gun and that was all...
Fighting to stop gun violence means we must bring the value of life back to people.
Make life worth living with opportunities and good education. Teach love from small on
so people learn to appreciate the life next to them, it is not something to be used and abused,
it is a person with feelings. Like in the case of Miss Ruby, how can the young pray on the elderly?
No respect for life, why? Because they were never taught this and never received it...
respect.
Taking guns away will never work because the person intent on finding one will.
The criminals will because they need them for their livelihood,
leaving victims helpless like poor Miss Ruby would have been without her gun.
We must take the person and change them instead.
Change where they live, how they live, give them hope and empathy for others.
Legal responsible gun owners are not the problem so we can not punish them...
we can not punish the thoughtful because of the thoughtless.
I agree one part of a description but she's 89 and suddenly awoken from sleep ...
I don't think she had anymore details to give.
I'd like to think I at 56 would keep it together enough to offer more
but who knows when you think you are going to die in a split second.
Quite true. Trauma completely changes how we remember and recall things. However, that has nothing to do with my original point. Our experiences and individual lives shape the lense through which we see the world. Having different lenses is what makes life interesting. This is probably one of those things that we'll have to agree to have different opinions about.
okee dokee
I think Miss Ruby was a smart old lady who was prepared to save her own life,
I'm really glad of that. She got two bad guys who will now go to prison instead
of breaking into someone else's house tonight.
She may not have been able to describe them well but she stopped them in their tracks,
good on you Miss Ruby.
I agree one part of a description but she's 89 and suddenly awoken from sleep ...
I don't think she had anymore details to give.
I'd like to think I at 56 would keep it together enough to offer more
but who knows when you think you are going to die in a split second.
Quite true. Trauma completely changes how we remember and recall things. However, that has nothing to do with my original point. Our experiences and individual lives shape the lense through which we see the world. Having different lenses is what makes life interesting. This is probably one of those things that we'll have to agree to have different opinions about.
okee dokee
I think Miss Ruby was a smart old lady who was prepared to save her own life,
I'm really glad of that. She got two bad guys who will now go to prison instead
of breaking into someone else's house tonight.
She may not have been able to describe them well but she stopped them in their tracks,
good on you Miss Ruby.
Oh were they arrested? I thought they were still in the run and needed to be identified
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Quite true. Trauma completely changes how we remember and recall things. However, that has nothing to do with my original point. Our experiences and individual lives shape the lense through which we see the world. Having different lenses is what makes life interesting. This is probably one of those things that we'll have to agree to have different opinions about.
okee dokee
I think Miss Ruby was a smart old lady who was prepared to save her own life,
I'm really glad of that. She got two bad guys who will now go to prison instead
of breaking into someone else's house tonight.
She may not have been able to describe them well but she stopped them in their tracks,
good on you Miss Ruby.
Oh were they arrested? I thought they were still in the run and needed to be identified
Cops got these two but I've bee hearing and reading so many of these news worthy stories lately
it's hard not to mix them up, well for me... I get the threads mixed up too
I think Miss Ruby was a smart old lady who was prepared to save her own life,
I'm really glad of that. She got two bad guys who will now go to prison instead
of breaking into someone else's house tonight.
She may not have been able to describe them well but she stopped them in their tracks,
good on you Miss Ruby.
Oh were they arrested? I thought they were still in the run and needed to be identified
Cops got these two but I've bee hearing and reading so many of these news worthy stories lately
it's hard not to mix them up, well for me... I get the threads mixed up too
It must have all come down to Miss Ruby's very detailed description :think:
Good - I'm glad that they were caught. I'm sure she'll sleep easier at night. I can't remember what I posted where anymore :crazy:
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
They kill a lot more people every day then they save. You would need 8,000 stories like that each year to make up for the gun murders we have.
I agree. A few months back I said in a gun thread that I see about two reports a month in Florida of accidental shootings. People did not believe me until I started linking the stories I saw. And most of these are involving kids and teenagers. The bad FAR outweigh the hero's who use their guns to defend. However, the simple fact that people own guns might keep people from robbing others, i'll admit that, but we'll never know that statistic.
And regarding the Arizona shooter/Giffords account -- There was a man there that was armed. He took his gun out (I believe), but was unable to identify the target because of all the commotion. AND he was concerned that the police would show up and see him with his weapon drawn. Personally, I think more guns in mass shootings is asinine. But people having guns to defend themselves in gas station robberies and whatnot are a hoot.
ONE LIFE SAVED is all that matters! just ask that one life and their loved ones
yeah its a hoot... a dead gas station attendant :wtf: what don't you guys get...
people don't want to die and they are willing to fight back.
again your scenario poor 89 year old Miss Ruby would be a goner but then
you guys don't like guns ... that is the hoot
so if we save 1 person with a gun but kill say 100 people with a gun your ok with that. I know that saying ONE LIFE SAVED sounds nice but it really is insulting.
Aurora, Colo., shooting suspect James Holmes came to the attention of the threat assessment committee at the University of Colorado but no further action was taken because he left the school more than a month before the attack that killed 12 and injured 58, sources told ABC News.
ABC News has learned that Dr. Lynne Fenton, the psychiatrist who was treating Holmes, 24, at the school, was also a key member of the university's threat assessment team. The group of experts were responsible for protecting the school from potentially violent students.
KMGH-TV, ABC News' affiliate in Denver, reported exclusively that, according to sources, by early June, Fenton had informed other members of the team about her concerns regarding Holmes.
But on June 10 -- three days after Holmes bought an assault weapon and added it to his already growing arsenal -- he suddenly told the university that he was dropping out of the neurosciences doctoral program with no explanation.
This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
I agree. A few months back I said in a gun thread that I see about two reports a month in Florida of accidental shootings. People did not believe me until I started linking the stories I saw. And most of these are involving kids and teenagers. The bad FAR outweigh the hero's who use their guns to defend. However, the simple fact that people own guns might keep people from robbing others, i'll admit that, but we'll never know that statistic.
And regarding the Arizona shooter/Giffords account -- There was a man there that was armed. He took his gun out (I believe), but was unable to identify the target because of all the commotion. AND he was concerned that the police would show up and see him with his weapon drawn. Personally, I think more guns in mass shootings is asinine. But people having guns to defend themselves in gas station robberies and whatnot are a hoot.
ONE LIFE SAVED is all that matters! just ask that one life and their loved ones
yeah its a hoot... a dead gas station attendant :wtf: what don't you guys get...
people don't want to die and they are willing to fight back.
again your scenario poor 89 year old Miss Ruby would be a goner but then
you guys don't like guns ... that is the hoot
so if we save 1 person with a gun but kill say 100 people with a gun your ok with that. I know that saying ONE LIFE SAVED sounds nice but it really is insulting.
Not to Miss Ruby and her loved ones... good lord
and it is not we obviously... it was she who saved her own life which is her right to do!
And it is not she who killed 100 people...
it is not me, nor you, nor any other responsible gun owner!
It is a criminal .... so basic.
Nice and insulting in the same breath, good trick that would be but no I think not...
You are insulting to Miss Ruby by devaluing her life,
insulting to all who love and admire this 89 year old woman
who still breaths because she had great courage and the forethought to be prepared
and defend herself!
Psychiatrist warned school. I wonder if anyone will ever NOT drop the ball in these cases? I know he dropped out, but surely people could do more, given past events and warnings?
Aurora, Colo., shooting suspect James Holmes came to the attention of the threat assessment committee at the University of Colorado but no further action was taken because he left the school more than a month before the attack that killed 12 and injured 58, sources told ABC News.
ABC News has learned that Dr. Lynne Fenton, the psychiatrist who was treating Holmes, 24, at the school, was also a key member of the university's threat assessment team. The group of experts were responsible for protecting the school from potentially violent students.
KMGH-TV, ABC News' affiliate in Denver, reported exclusively that, according to sources, by early June, Fenton had informed other members of the team about her concerns regarding Holmes.
But on June 10 -- three days after Holmes bought an assault weapon and added it to his already growing arsenal -- he suddenly told the university that he was dropping out of the neurosciences doctoral program with no explanation.
I'm not surprised he came up on the radar. Given he was in such a small program, if there was some serious decompensation going on it would be really hard to believe that someone within the staff and faculty didn't notice this and refer it to the BIT team. If he didn't make any specific threats at that time, the psychiatrist's hands would have been really tied in terms of what information she could share though. These are the kinds of situations that make it hard to sleep at night.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Aurora, Colo., shooting suspect James Holmes came to the attention of the threat assessment committee at the University of Colorado but no further action was taken because he left the school more than a month before the attack that killed 12 and injured 58, sources told ABC News.
ABC News has learned that Dr. Lynne Fenton, the psychiatrist who was treating Holmes, 24, at the school, was also a key member of the university's threat assessment team. The group of experts were responsible for protecting the school from potentially violent students.
KMGH-TV, ABC News' affiliate in Denver, reported exclusively that, according to sources, by early June, Fenton had informed other members of the team about her concerns regarding Holmes.
But on June 10 -- three days after Holmes bought an assault weapon and added it to his already growing arsenal -- he suddenly told the university that he was dropping out of the neurosciences doctoral program with no explanation.
I'm not surprised he came up on the radar. Given he was in such a small program, if there was some serious decompensation going on it would be really hard to believe that someone within the staff and faculty didn't notice this and refer it to the BIT team. If he didn't make any specific threats at that time, the psychiatrist's hands would have been really tied in terms of what information she could share though. These are the kinds of situations that make it hard to sleep at night.
Yeah, but there was nothing stopping the threat assessment team from contacting police. Doing so would have lead police to questioning him at least, and possibly stopping the whole thing by doing so. I would have thought a university would be more careful given the situation with Virginia Tech and that school in California. I think it is general practice in universities to go by the rule "better safe than sorry". It doesn't seem like that school followed that rule.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Aurora, Colo., shooting suspect James Holmes came to the attention of the threat assessment committee at the University of Colorado but no further action was taken because he left the school more than a month before the attack that killed 12 and injured 58, sources told ABC News.
ABC News has learned that Dr. Lynne Fenton, the psychiatrist who was treating Holmes, 24, at the school, was also a key member of the university's threat assessment team. The group of experts were responsible for protecting the school from potentially violent students.
KMGH-TV, ABC News' affiliate in Denver, reported exclusively that, according to sources, by early June, Fenton had informed other members of the team about her concerns regarding Holmes.
But on June 10 -- three days after Holmes bought an assault weapon and added it to his already growing arsenal -- he suddenly told the university that he was dropping out of the neurosciences doctoral program with no explanation.
I'm not surprised he came up on the radar. Given he was in such a small program, if there was some serious decompensation going on it would be really hard to believe that someone within the staff and faculty didn't notice this and refer it to the BIT team. If he didn't make any specific threats at that time, the psychiatrist's hands would have been really tied in terms of what information she could share though. These are the kinds of situations that make it hard to sleep at night.
Yeah, but there was nothing stopping the threat assessment team from contacting police. Doing so would have lead police to questioning him at least, and possibly stopping the whole thing by doing so. I would have thought a university would be more careful given the situation with Virginia Tech and that school in California. I think it is general practice in universities to go by the rule "better safe than sorry". It doesn't seem like that school followed that rule.
I'm not sure if this university has their own police force, or just has a security department. We have our own police force, and the chief sits on the BIT team. Our psychiatrist's hands are still somewhat tied by Tarasoff with what can be shared. We can definitely indicate we have a concern about students, and if there is a specific threat we can definitely report that. The BIT teams grew out of the Virginia Tech killings and I think have been really effective in a lot of situations, but a lot of times it is really frustrating. I agree that it's better to err on the side of caution. I'm very interested to know what the psychiatrist actually knew and if it was a general concern or if she knew specifics.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
We don't even know if the old lady was saved by the gun. Maybe they thought they broke into an empty house and ran when they saw her.
maybe ... what if ...come on pleeeeeze :fp:
I'm sure those were nice respectful young men come to have some sweet tea....
Didn't say that but don't be so positive the gun had anything to do with it. The fact is there's a better chance someone will shoot themselves or someone they know then to save themselves.
Can we get past this one example though? We get it. The old lady is a hero. I could post a hundred stories about people killing their loved ones or kids shooting themselves with dads gun.
This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
We don't even know if the old lady was saved by the gun. Maybe they thought they broke into an empty house and ran when they saw her.
maybe ... what if ...come on pleeeeeze :fp:
I'm sure those were nice respectful young men come to have some sweet tea....
Didn't say that but don't be so positive the gun had anything to do with it. The fact is there's a better chance someone will shoot themselves or someone they know then to save themselves.
Can we get past this one example though? We get it. The old lady is a hero. I could post a hundred stories about people killing their loved ones or kids shooting themselves with dads gun.
Or there is the toddler who somehow got his hands on the family firearm a week or two ago, and accidentally shot and killed his dad, who was the owner of the gun of course.
Most gun deaths are accidents. Reason enough to get them out of homes. Yeah, easy to say "oh, I'm responsible - people just have to be responsible." But that doesn't cut it obviously. Example: The other day in (Regina??) an 11 year old came to school with a loaded hand gun and it went off inside a classroom (luckily no one was hurt). The kid's parents did what they assumed was the responsible thing: dad taught the kid about gun safety, unloaded the gun, kept the ammo and the gun separate, locked the gun up... Well, that didn't stop the 11 year old from scouring the home, finding the keys to the gun and the ammo, loading it, and bringing it to school (probably to wow his friends). The parents said they couldn't believe it, never would have suspected this would happen. And then the dad said that although he'd been a gun owner of several different firearms all his life, he would never again keep a firearm in his home (he got rid of 4 of them).
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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yeah its a hoot... a dead gas station attendant :wtf: what don't you guys get...
people don't want to die and they are willing to fight back.
again your scenario poor 89 year old Miss Ruby would be a goner but then
you guys don't like guns ... that is the hoot
a black male
a hispanic male
a white female
an asian female
a white child
a hispanic child
etc etc
do we think that is racist...
come on now that is ridiculous yes?
that is someones race and that describes them
Not run away. hmmm, such an interesting way to put it. You have explained how your area is very dangerous with guns and machetes everywhere, yet you don't own a gun. So you wont move or buy a gun...then is your immediate area safe? How are you fighting to make gun violence better?
I'll admit, as I did in my PM, I have up and moved. I came to my last straw. Too much gun violence in my hood. I've abandoned my house and moved to a better neighborhood. For the last two years, as much as I oppose guns, I contemplated getting one. I'm glad I found a better way to escape it than to cave in and cater to the American mentality that more guns is better. I just cant subscribe to that so I did what I could to avoid it. Plus, I cant imaging my wife as a quick-draw and/or in a shootout. So we moved. Just a few weeks ago in my old neighborhood, (my old place is in short sale), there was a gunfight in the street. One building riddled with bullets. I think there get to be a point where you just cant do anything but escape it.
Honestly, that one little old lady saved, does not amount to the slew of children I hear of that are shot and killed accidentally. And that's just accidents. Not even close.
And maybe I should've reworded it about the gas station attendant - If he/she has to defend themselves with a gun I think that's fine (a hoot). But I've seen most convenience stores around here are getting glass bulletproof barriers for cashiers. Smarter than guns. I think you keep forgetting, I still believe handguns should be legal of course. :?
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
I don't think she had anymore details to give.
I'd like to think I at 56 would keep it together enough to offer more
but who knows when you think you are going to die in a split second.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
We are in a great neighborhood, very upper class, so much so a target I'm afraid.
We have some detectives and sheriffs moving in though so their presence is very welcome.
Our house is on the market but we will stay in the general area as our biz is moved here now,
a short 5 mile drive.
Matters not really crime happens everywhere anyways. For some a means of income
so crime goes to the best of neighborhoods.
I speak of what others deal with in all parts of Atl. though and if you read between the lines
I said I personally didn't own a gun and that was all...
Fighting to stop gun violence means we must bring the value of life back to people.
Make life worth living with opportunities and good education. Teach love from small on
so people learn to appreciate the life next to them, it is not something to be used and abused,
it is a person with feelings. Like in the case of Miss Ruby, how can the young pray on the elderly?
No respect for life, why? Because they were never taught this and never received it...
respect.
Taking guns away will never work because the person intent on finding one will.
The criminals will because they need them for their livelihood,
leaving victims helpless like poor Miss Ruby would have been without her gun.
We must take the person and change them instead.
Change where they live, how they live, give them hope and empathy for others.
Legal responsible gun owners are not the problem so we can not punish them...
we can not punish the thoughtful because of the thoughtless.
I think Miss Ruby was a smart old lady who was prepared to save her own life,
I'm really glad of that. She got two bad guys who will now go to prison instead
of breaking into someone else's house tonight.
She may not have been able to describe them well but she stopped them in their tracks,
good on you Miss Ruby.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
it's hard not to mix them up, well for me... I get the threads mixed up too
Good - I'm glad that they were caught. I'm sure she'll sleep easier at night. I can't remember what I posted where anymore :crazy:
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Maybe from getting whacked upside the head from that sock full of nickels?
Hail, Hail!!!
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Unreal :fp:
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
so if we save 1 person with a gun but kill say 100 people with a gun your ok with that. I know that saying ONE LIFE SAVED sounds nice but it really is insulting.
I don't know if I'd rather smack these idiots or their parents.
Morons.
ABC News has learned that Dr. Lynne Fenton, the psychiatrist who was treating Holmes, 24, at the school, was also a key member of the university's threat assessment team. The group of experts were responsible for protecting the school from potentially violent students.
KMGH-TV, ABC News' affiliate in Denver, reported exclusively that, according to sources, by early June, Fenton had informed other members of the team about her concerns regarding Holmes.
But on June 10 -- three days after Holmes bought an assault weapon and added it to his already growing arsenal -- he suddenly told the university that he was dropping out of the neurosciences doctoral program with no explanation.
and it is not we obviously...
it was she who saved her own life which is her right to do!
And it is not she who killed 100 people...
it is not me, nor you, nor any other responsible gun owner!
It is a criminal .... so basic.
Nice and insulting in the same breath, good trick that would be but no I think not...
You are insulting to Miss Ruby by devaluing her life,
insulting to all who love and admire this 89 year old woman
who still breaths because she had great courage and the forethought to be prepared
and defend herself!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-19091840
I'm sure those were nice respectful young men come to have some sweet tea....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19099956
Edit: just noticed someone else just posted this.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Didn't say that but don't be so positive the gun had anything to do with it. The fact is there's a better chance someone will shoot themselves or someone they know then to save themselves.
Can we get past this one example though? We get it. The old lady is a hero. I could post a hundred stories about people killing their loved ones or kids shooting themselves with dads gun.
Most gun deaths are accidents. Reason enough to get them out of homes. Yeah, easy to say "oh, I'm responsible - people just have to be responsible." But that doesn't cut it obviously. Example: The other day in (Regina??) an 11 year old came to school with a loaded hand gun and it went off inside a classroom (luckily no one was hurt). The kid's parents did what they assumed was the responsible thing: dad taught the kid about gun safety, unloaded the gun, kept the ammo and the gun separate, locked the gun up... Well, that didn't stop the 11 year old from scouring the home, finding the keys to the gun and the ammo, loading it, and bringing it to school (probably to wow his friends). The parents said they couldn't believe it, never would have suspected this would happen. And then the dad said that although he'd been a gun owner of several different firearms all his life, he would never again keep a firearm in his home (he got rid of 4 of them).