I'm neither Republican nor Democrat...and I do respect the reasonable debates / arguments that take place here on a regular basis...but it seems to me as if posts like this (which from what I've seen, typically take jabs at the conservative side) do nothing to foster constructive discussion.
There's ridiculousness all over the place, but I don't see near as much anti-liberalism as I do the opposite (and I get it, many of the folks here tend to be more liberal than not).
This isn't a personal dig at you, davidtrios...just trying to understand the point.
I agree. There is far more vitriol from the left than on the right and I watch, listen, and read tons of news every week from many different sources. It's definitely on both sides, but the left always comes across to me as being really bitter and angry; like they don't enjoy life. Just look at some of the kooks on MSNBC like Maddow, Matthews, O'Donnell, the crazy, racist Al Sharpton, and the heart-attack-just-waiting-to happen Ed Schultz. The only MSNBC host who I can even really watch is my fellow Alabama guy, Joe Scarborough. The conservative news media has its fair share of extreme folks, but the left wing media has more in the extreme category.
I consider myself an Independent who is fiscally conservative and socially moderate. I vote for a combination of candidates any given election cycle.
United Center (Chicago): 8/24/09
Gibson Amphitheatre (Los Angeles): 10/7/09
I'm neither Republican nor Democrat...and I do respect the reasonable debates / arguments that take place here on a regular basis...but it seems to me as if posts like this (which from what I've seen, typically take jabs at the conservative side) do nothing to foster constructive discussion.
There's ridiculousness all over the place, but I don't see near as much anti-liberalism as I do the opposite (and I get it, many of the folks here tend to be more liberal than not).
This isn't a personal dig at you, davidtrios...just trying to understand the point.
I agree. There is far more vitriol from the left than on the right
No there isn't.
And either way, since when does pointing out blatant hypocrisy constitute 'vitriol'?
I'm neither Republican nor Democrat...and I do respect the reasonable debates / arguments that take place here on a regular basis...but it seems to me as if posts like this (which from what I've seen, typically take jabs at the conservative side) do nothing to foster constructive discussion.
There's ridiculousness all over the place, but I don't see near as much anti-liberalism as I do the opposite (and I get it, many of the folks here tend to be more liberal than not).
This isn't a personal dig at you, davidtrios...just trying to understand the point.
I agree. There is far more vitriol from the left than on the right and I watch, listen, and read tons of news every week from many different sources. It's definitely on both sides, but the left always comes across to me as being really bitter and angry; like they don't enjoy life. Just look at some of the kooks on MSNBC like Maddow, Matthews, O'Donnell, the crazy, racist Al Sharpton, and the heart-attack-just-waiting-to happen Ed Schultz. The only MSNBC host who I can even really watch is my fellow Alabama guy, Joe Scarborough. The conservative news media has its fair share of extreme folks, but the left wing media has more in the extreme category.
I consider myself an Independent who is fiscally conservative and socially moderate. I vote for a combination of candidates any given election cycle.
Did you ever consider that perhaps your not as independent as you think?
Both the left and right throw a lot of mud at each other, but we tend to overlook or ignore the stuff that is spewed by people who share our own beliefs. Conversely, we get very defensive or downright antagonistic with people we strongly disagree with. Your post comes off as a rant against the left, but you repeatedly exonerate the right. You openly speak about the left-wing kooks while defending the conservative media. You've pointed out how vitriolic posts from the left are, but there are just as many sharply worded posts coming from the other side.
Perhaps I'm simply pessimistic but I feel that almost everyone has an agenda. Most of the posters here are extremely partisan, often antagonistic and enjoy bating as much as they enjoy debating. It's probably the reason many people read these forums in the first place.
I agree. There is far more vitriol from the left than on the right and I watch, listen, and read tons of news every week from many different sources. It's definitely on both sides, but the left always comes across to me as being really bitter and angry; like they don't enjoy life. Just look at some of the kooks on MSNBC like Maddow, Matthews, O'Donnell, the crazy, racist Al Sharpton, and the heart-attack-just-waiting-to happen Ed Schultz. The only MSNBC host who I can even really watch is my fellow Alabama guy, Joe Scarborough. The conservative news media has its fair share of extreme folks, but the left wing media has more in the extreme category.
I consider myself an Independent who is fiscally conservative and socially moderate. I vote for a combination of candidates any given election cycle.
the jewish leaders doing the bidding of the romans, you mean??
I don't think so, but honestly I'm not an expert and not really sure.
...
No. Cate is correct. The Middle East, specifically, the land of Judea, was under Roman control. The Jewish Leaders were administering what the Roman Governor's were directing. The security was basically, the Roman Legions deployed to that region... who also enforced Roman Law.
The first Jewish uprising took place around 60 A.D. which was met with crushing consequences. The destruction of Jewish Temple in Jeruselem was the price they paid.
...
Now, I'm no Biblical scholar... but I am pretty sure Jesus was alive during this time of Roman occupation.
But, you are correct... Jesus wanted to sheppard the Jews back to the basis of God, not Religion (which Jesus saw as being corrupt). Jewish Religious leaders lived in Roman-esque luxury while the Jewish people bore the brunt of Rome's oppression on His homeland and His people.
I think that some of our further to the right Republicans can learn a lot from Jesus.. regarding His views of Earthly wealth and the poverty that people are subjected to.
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Hail, Hail!!!
Yes the churches are doing so much to help the less fortunate here in Atl
and across the country.
Is this forgotten? Is this better than taxation ...giving from the heart?
An instant reward!
Here is a beautiful news piece on the generosity I saw on the TV last weekend.
We should be very thankful for the generous people giving, working, helping others
in the name of Jesus. A positive approach a positive thank you
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I don't think so, but honestly I'm not an expert and not really sure.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I agree. There is far more vitriol from the left than on the right and I watch, listen, and read tons of news every week from many different sources. It's definitely on both sides, but the left always comes across to me as being really bitter and angry; like they don't enjoy life. Just look at some of the kooks on MSNBC like Maddow, Matthews, O'Donnell, the crazy, racist Al Sharpton, and the heart-attack-just-waiting-to happen Ed Schultz. The only MSNBC host who I can even really watch is my fellow Alabama guy, Joe Scarborough. The conservative news media has its fair share of extreme folks, but the left wing media has more in the extreme category.
I consider myself an Independent who is fiscally conservative and socially moderate. I vote for a combination of candidates any given election cycle.
Gibson Amphitheatre (Los Angeles): 10/7/09
No there isn't.
And either way, since when does pointing out blatant hypocrisy constitute 'vitriol'?
Did you ever consider that perhaps your not as independent as you think?
Both the left and right throw a lot of mud at each other, but we tend to overlook or ignore the stuff that is spewed by people who share our own beliefs. Conversely, we get very defensive or downright antagonistic with people we strongly disagree with. Your post comes off as a rant against the left, but you repeatedly exonerate the right. You openly speak about the left-wing kooks while defending the conservative media. You've pointed out how vitriolic posts from the left are, but there are just as many sharply worded posts coming from the other side.
Perhaps I'm simply pessimistic but I feel that almost everyone has an agenda. Most of the posters here are extremely partisan, often antagonistic and enjoy bating as much as they enjoy debating. It's probably the reason many people read these forums in the first place.
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are you fucking serious?
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/2 ... t-page-25/
I found this perspective
"the fuck you can't; gimmie a stick & i'll show ya how to beat fucked in the head whacky religious republicans" - some dude
whoever, "some dude" is he is a comical shit
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
No. Cate is correct. The Middle East, specifically, the land of Judea, was under Roman control. The Jewish Leaders were administering what the Roman Governor's were directing. The security was basically, the Roman Legions deployed to that region... who also enforced Roman Law.
The first Jewish uprising took place around 60 A.D. which was met with crushing consequences. The destruction of Jewish Temple in Jeruselem was the price they paid.
...
Now, I'm no Biblical scholar... but I am pretty sure Jesus was alive during this time of Roman occupation.
But, you are correct... Jesus wanted to sheppard the Jews back to the basis of God, not Religion (which Jesus saw as being corrupt). Jewish Religious leaders lived in Roman-esque luxury while the Jewish people bore the brunt of Rome's oppression on His homeland and His people.
I think that some of our further to the right Republicans can learn a lot from Jesus.. regarding His views of Earthly wealth and the poverty that people are subjected to.
Hail, Hail!!!
this is great
Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
Adel 03 Melb 1 03 LA 2 06 Santa Barbara 06 Gorge 1 06 Gorge 2 06 Adel 1 06 Adel 2 06 Camden 1 08 Camden 2 08 Washington DC 08 Hartford 08
worst
tattoo
ever..
perhaps they can cover that with a mike tyson inspired design?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
and across the country.
Is this forgotten? Is this better than taxation ...giving from the heart?
An instant reward!
Here is a beautiful news piece on the generosity I saw on the TV last weekend.
We should be very thankful for the generous people giving, working, helping others
in the name of Jesus. A positive approach a positive thank you
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/264 ... h-campaign
"you have it they don't"
here's a message about responsibility ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bV18Qps ... ure=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLvpuNox ... ure=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgDoQazr ... ure=relmfu
They did WHAT to me while I was passed out stone cold drunk last night?