Sandusky Trial

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Is the suicide watch thing a knee-jerk reaction in situations like this, or is/was he actually manifesting the signs? I don't feel he should be given the luxury of alone time, free from the taunting of those who know he's a sick fuck.

    ...and the post up there about the doctor. What the fuck is wrong with people? Seriously. These motherfuckers should be loaded onto a rocketship and catapulted into space.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Penn State to State Pen.
    Have fun playing soaped up jailhouse Slap and Tickle in the showers, Mr. Sandusky.
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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Cosmo wrote:
    Penn State to State Pen.
    Have fun playing soaped up jailhouse Slap and Tickle in the showers, Mr. Sandusky.

    The problem is, if he likes boys, he might actually enjoy this kind of prison. :?
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Cosmo wrote:
    Penn State to State Pen.
    Have fun playing soaped up jailhouse Slap and Tickle in the showers, Mr. Sandusky.

    The problem is, if he likes boys, he might actually enjoy this kind of prison. :?

    but he like the control...he will have none in prison...that and the fact that he'll be segregated from the general population so this will probably never happen
  • 81
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    Hey Teacher, Leave them kids alone


    http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/06/24 ... /?tw_p=twt
    Jerry Sandusky is back in a place he definitely doesn’t want to be.

    The former Penn State assistant football coach is in jail, on suicide watch, after a jury convicted him late Friday of sexually abusing 10 boys over 15 years.

    Sandusky, 68, had been free on bail before his trial began two weeks ago but was handcuffed immediately after his 12 peers pronounced him guilty of all but three of the 48 charges against him.

    Today, he is at the Centre County Correctional Facility — the same lockup where he spent a night in December. That night, the other prisoners harassed him. Now, they’re more than likely to do it again.

    His last time behind bars, Sandusky was held alone in a cell in a special unit reserved for sexual offenders or people with mental illnesses, according to another inmate there last winter. The 22-year-old offender identified himself as Josh and asked that his surname not be used because he is embarrassed about his crime.

    Other prisoners were barred from communicating directly with Sandusky, but they could see him. And when the lights went out, inmates serenaded the disgraced coach with a famous line from Pink Floyd’s “The Wall.”

    “At night, we were singing ‘Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone,’ ” Josh said, adding that everyone knew who Sandusky was because inmates had access to television and newspapers. The jail can hold 349 inmates.

    Sandusky landed in jail on that occasion after a grand jury voted to add additional counts to the explosive allegations first filed against him in November.

    The allegation that Sandusky had used his position at Penn State to coerce children into sex, and even raped children on university grounds, helped bring an ignoble end to the 45-year head coaching career of Penn State football icon Joe Paterno.

    In the end, Sandusky was convicted of 45 of 48 charges. Mandatory minimum sentences will likely keep him behind bars for the rest of his life.

    One juror, Joshua Harper, told NBC’s “Today” show yesterday that the jurors believed the stories of eight young men who took the stand, despite some inconsistencies in their testimony.

    But Harper said they were unable to convict Sandusky of the most serious charge related to Victim 2. The victim, a pre-adolescent at the time of the alleged attack a decade ago, had been an key part of the case since it was revealed that assistant Penn State football coach Mike McQueary said he saw Sandusky raping the boy in a locker-room shower.

    In testimony, McQueary said he reported what he saw to Paterno the following day. Paterno later claimed he told other school officials but never informed law enforcement. Paterno was fired just days after Sandusky was charged in November and died of lung cancer in January at 85.

    On the stand, McQueary said he saw what he believed was a rape but didn’t see actual penetration. Based on that ambiguity, Sandusky was acquitted of one of five charges related to that victim.

    “I just kept going back to — ‘Why would McQueary lie about this?’ — and he was sure, and he made it very apparent that he saw something that was wrong and very sexual,” Harper said.

    Sandusky’s lawyer, Joseph Amendola, told CNN Friday after the verdict that his client will be held in protective custody until sentencing, which is expected within 90 days.

    Amendola’s co-counsel, Karl Rominger, said yesterday they made a motion to withdraw from the case as jury selection began but that Judge John Cleland ruled against it.

    Rominger said the discussion took place in the judge’s chambers, and the motion was filed under seal. The pair have said repeatedly that didn’t have enough time to properly prepare for the complex case.
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    I would imagine the code in prison, because he victimized kids, would make it that
    Sandusky might need protection. Somehow, I don't see him in with the general population.
    I could be wrong.

    I heard the sentencing is 90 days away ... why? just get it over with now
    and have him gone.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    pandora wrote:
    I would imagine the code in prison, because he victimized kids, would make it that
    Sandusky might need protection. Somehow, I don't see him in with the general population.
    I could be wrong.

    I heard the sentencing is 90 days away ... why? just get it over with now
    and have him gone.
    Sounds strange to say this, but sometimes I think our society is too humane.

    I'm not proud of how animalistic I've felt at times during this clusterfuck (and other similar ones), but I figure if he didn't give a shit about protecting children and fucked them royally - both literally and figuratively - why should anyone be concerned with protecting him?

    Empathy is pretty much out of my reach on this one.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,962
    pandora wrote:
    I would imagine the code in prison, because he victimized kids, would make it that
    Sandusky might need protection. Somehow, I don't see him in with the general population.
    I could be wrong.

    I heard the sentencing is 90 days away ... why? just get it over with now
    and have him gone.

    they need to do psychological testing and such before can sentence him. sentencing isn't going to matter much as the number of charges means he will surely die in prison. almost no chance he ever gets out.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Too bad that Joe Paterno croaked before seeing what was revealed in the courts these past weeks. Something HE could have halted 15 years ago with a simple phone call to the police, instead of to those who cared more about Joe Paterno's legacy and Penn State football, than the lives of his victims.
    Paterno got of easy.
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Cosmo wrote:
    Too bad that Joe Paterno croaked before seeing what was revealed in the courts these past weeks. Something HE could have halted 15 years ago with a simple phone call to the police, instead of to those who cared more about Joe Paterno's legacy and Penn State football, than the lives of his victims.
    Paterno got of easy.
    Perhaps not, the guilt may have been what killed him.

    I wouldn't want to take that with me on my journey after this world,
    if indeed he knew and did nothing. All the love and admiration in the world would not
    remove that.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,962
    Cosmo wrote:
    Too bad that Joe Paterno croaked before seeing what was revealed in the courts these past weeks. Something HE could have halted 15 years ago with a simple phone call to the police, instead of to those who cared more about Joe Paterno's legacy and Penn State football, than the lives of his victims.
    Paterno got of easy.

    agree, and where are all those idiots who protested his firing now.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,962
    pandora wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Too bad that Joe Paterno croaked before seeing what was revealed in the courts these past weeks. Something HE could have halted 15 years ago with a simple phone call to the police, instead of to those who cared more about Joe Paterno's legacy and Penn State football, than the lives of his victims.
    Paterno got of easy.
    Perhaps not, the guilt may have been what killed him.

    I wouldn't want to take that with me on my journey after this world,
    if indeed he knew and did nothing. All the love and admiration in the world would not
    remove that.

    maybe but the question becomes where was the guilt before charges were brought. once you knew how did you allow the guy to stay around the program and into the buildings. how did you ever see the man around children again? how did any of them sleep at night knowing sandusky was still invovled in the Second Mile? mind boggling
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    pjhawks wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Too bad that Joe Paterno croaked before seeing what was revealed in the courts these past weeks. Something HE could have halted 15 years ago with a simple phone call to the police, instead of to those who cared more about Joe Paterno's legacy and Penn State football, than the lives of his victims.
    Paterno got of easy.

    agree, and where are all those idiots who protested his firing now.
    ...
    It all comes down to doing what is right, versus what is right for you.
    Paterno was more than likely more concerned about his own job and that of Penn State's football program than the impact of a sex scandal would reflect on himself and what it would do to the program and the money that pours into the university because of it.
    Fuck Paterno. Hero... MY ASS!!! Coward... more lke it.
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    I hope the cycle is being broken with the knowledge of man/boy victimization.

    Both Sandusky and Paterno and many others came from era where this and all child abuse
    was more prevalent and yes more ignored. Thank God this is changing, that victims
    are being empowered.
    That hopefully those who have been abused know to seek help and not repeat the cycle.
    And that fewer will be victimized in the future.

    We can only hope pedophilia will be on the decrease not increase.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Sandusky's first night in jail might be something like this....

    The first day of prison was always the hardest
    The first day of prison, the hallways the darkest
    Like a gauntlet
    the voices haunted
    Faggot, sissy, punk, queen, queer
    Words he used before had a new meaning in here
    As a group of men in front of him came near
    for the first time in his life the young bully felt fear
    He'd never been on this side of the name calling
    Five against one they had his back up against the wall and
    he had never questioned his own sexuality
    but this group of men didn't hesitate in their reality
    with an awful, powerful, showerful, an hour full of violence
    Inflict the strictest brutality and dominance
    They didn't hear him screaming
    They didn't hear him pleading
    They took what they wanted and then left him bleeding in the corner
    The giant reduced to jack horner

    But dehumanizing the victim makes things simpler
    It's like breathing with a respirator
    It eases the conscience of even the most conscious
    and calculating violator.....

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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    and now on to the second biggest scumbags in this

    STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- The two former Penn State administrators who are facing charges in the Jerry Sandusky case and former university President Graham Spanier allegedly exchanged emails discussing the best way to respond to the 2001 report that Sandusky was seen in the shower with a boy, according to a report that aired on CNN Friday night.

    According to the report, an email then-Senior Vice President Gary Schultz sent talked about discussing the incident with "the subject," the charitable organization - The Second Mile - and the state Department of Public Welfare.

    CNN, citing "sources with knowledge of the case," said the four emails refer to Sandusky as "the subject" and "person."

    The report goes on to say that former Athletic Director Tim Curley said he discussed the situation with Joe Paterno and "am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps. I am having trouble with going to everyone but the person involved. I would be more comfortable meeting with the person and tell them about the information we received and tell them we are aware of the first situation."

    Curley allegedly commented on getting "professional help" for Sandusky.

    The report goes on to cite an email Spanier allegedly sent, saying in part, "I am supportive. ... The only downside for us is if the message isn't heard and acted upon and we then become vulnerable for not having reported it. But that can be assessed down the road."

    Curley and Schultz are facing perjury and failure to report abuse charges. They maintain their innocence. Spanier has not been charged. He is in a legal battle with the university about whether he can have access to old emails. He said in a legal suit that he needs the emails to properly respond to the investigation the university is conducting on the scandal.

    Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/06/29/ ... rylink=cpy
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    How can they not wipe Paterno off their entire campus? If it wasn't clear who was running the show before, it's only getting clearer. I know Norm posted a similar article. Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace? Joe Paterno: Poster Boy of Enablers Worldwide

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... tions-2001
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  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,073
    norm wrote:
    and now on to the second biggest scumbags in this

    STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- The two former Penn State administrators who are facing charges in the Jerry Sandusky case and former university President Graham Spanier allegedly exchanged emails discussing the best way to respond to the 2001 report that Sandusky was seen in the shower with a boy, according to a report that aired on CNN Friday night.

    According to the report, an email then-Senior Vice President Gary Schultz sent talked about discussing the incident with "the subject," the charitable organization - The Second Mile - and the state Department of Public Welfare.

    CNN, citing "sources with knowledge of the case," said the four emails refer to Sandusky as "the subject" and "person."

    The report goes on to say that former Athletic Director Tim Curley said he discussed the situation with Joe Paterno and "am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps. I am having trouble with going to everyone but the person involved. I would be more comfortable meeting with the person and tell them about the information we received and tell them we are aware of the first situation."

    Curley allegedly commented on getting "professional help" for Sandusky.

    The report goes on to cite an email Spanier allegedly sent, saying in part, "I am supportive. ... The only downside for us is if the message isn't heard and acted upon and we then become vulnerable for not having reported it. But that can be assessed down the road."

    Curley and Schultz are facing perjury and failure to report abuse charges. They maintain their innocence. Spanier has not been charged. He is in a legal battle with the university about whether he can have access to old emails. He said in a legal suit that he needs the emails to properly respond to the investigation the university is conducting on the scandal.

    Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/06/29/ ... rylink=cpy

    These jackasses need to be sitting in jail right next to Sandusky. They are all human garbage.
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  • oona left
    oona left Posts: 1,677
    How can they not wipe Paterno off their entire campus? If it wasn't clear who was running the show before, it's only getting clearer. I know Norm posted a similar article. Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace? Joe Paterno: Poster Boy of Enablers Worldwide

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... tions-2001

    I read this this morning. Unbelievable.

    There are several people I know personally who were convinced Paterno did "nothing wrong." What's sad is, there seemed to be nothing behind their convictions other than his success as a coach.