Sandusky Trial
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hedonist wrote:Beyond messed up, yes.
I had trouble with the "generally" part of your statement. I don't think the delusion mentioned applies to the majority.
Again, if they truly love and worship and see children as stated in the paragraph you posted, there would be no need to hide it.
They hide it because they know it's wrong AND YET STILL DO IT.
It's almost worse when that behavior is protected or ignored by those around.
Of course, despite having had some experience in this realm, I'm no expert, thank god.
He played with them in a kid like manner... that became sex play which is classic.
That is also how normal adults often explore sexuality when they are just learning
exploring as kids.
The fact he is pleading not guilty and wants to get on the stand
he must to some degree feel he did nothing wrong.
Perhaps he feels he's not innocent but not guilty also in his motives.
It's more complex than what people think.
In looking for info though I found a pro pedophile article that gave me the creeps.
Pedophiles love the internet almost as much as they love kids. I won't post that article
though it is too upsetting.Post edited by pandora on0 -
hedonist wrote:norm wrote:basically, trying to apply logic to pedophile thinking will not work...they're fucked in the head and there is no way to change them
and even keep them from victimizing children.
If we can do this and break the cycle for those who experience and learn as children
that this behavior is ok maybe we can protect our children before the act not after.
Also the idea of young children being adult like... even early teens, in behavior,
in physical appearance, in freedoms, we help if we remove the same.
Let kids be kids ... they are not little adults.0 -
i am wondering how Sandusky still walks into court everyday after day
i always think someone, somewhere enjoys snipering out pedophiles for entertainment purposes, i mean, think about it. it would be ideal for a high power rifle expert or car bomb dude. when Sandusky enters the prison system it is on like mad for that piece of garbage. literally fellow inmates will fight one another to get at Sandusky.
goodnight, high profile child molester. you are going home in a cold dark box. end of storyfor poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7
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pandora wrote:pedophiles generally truly believe they are showing love... they worship children.
You're wrong here. Pedophiles know what they are doing is wrong, and the go through an emotional, behavioral, and mental process to make it okay. You saying 'they believe they are showing love' is a reflection on their manipulation of others and their m.o. of grooming victims. To believe it creates an environment that perpetuates the offending behavior. Even after they are caught, they will use this as a defense because they may actually think it, but that's not what's happening underneath this thinking. This is a defense in order to hopefully gain some sympathy or lower consequences, but also an attempt to reduce their own guilt.
My guess is the ones that kill themselves after (or before) they are caught weren't so successful in convincing themselves that they were 'showing love'. Sandusky is probably in this way so deep due to his age and most likely because he been a sex offender for a long time. He's even is going to take the stand after saying he's sexually attracted to children.0 -
Go Beavers wrote:pandora wrote:pedophiles generally truly believe they are showing love... they worship children.
You're wrong here. Pedophiles know what they are doing is wrong, and the go through an emotional, behavioral, and mental process to make it okay. You saying 'they believe they are showing love' is a reflection on their manipulation of others and their m.o. of grooming victims. To believe it creates an environment that perpetuates the offending behavior. Even after they are caught, they will use this as a defense because they may actually think it, but that's not what's happening underneath this thinking. This is a defense in order to hopefully gain some sympathy or lower consequences, but also an attempt to reduce their own guilt.
My guess is the ones that kill themselves after (or before) they are caught weren't so successful in convincing themselves that they were 'showing love'. Sandusky is probably in this way so deep due to his age and most likely because he been a sex offender for a long time. He's even is going to take the stand after saying he's sexually attracted to children.
you can find this fact in many studies. They believe they are showing love.
The info I have posted states just how sick their perception of children can be,
believing children are sexual beings as young as toddlers.
The main thing is to understand pedophiles so they can be conquered.
To keep others from being abused who may continue the cycle and
to make parents aware of how they operate.0 -
Throw him in jail.
Also - Joe Paterno is a coward.Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V0 -
keeponrockin wrote:Throw him in jail.
Also - Joe Paterno is a coward.
absolutely
i believe mrs j paterno knew as wellfuck 'em if they can't take a joke
"what a long, strange trip it's been"0 -
sigh...great job nbc...most journalists i know always let's the interviewee dictate the terms of what gets aired...especially when said interviewee admits to pedophilia"Well -- you might think that. I don't know. In terms of -- my relationship with so many, many young people. I would -- I would guess that there are many young people who would come forward. Many more young people who would come forward and say that my methods and -- and what I had done for them made a very positive impact on their life. And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/ ... rview?lite0 -
norm wrote:sigh...great job nbc...most journalists i know always let's the interviewee dictate the terms of what gets aired...especially when said interviewee admits to pedophilia"Well -- you might think that. I don't know. In terms of -- my relationship with so many, many young people. I would -- I would guess that there are many young people who would come forward. Many more young people who would come forward and say that my methods and -- and what I had done for them made a very positive impact on their life. And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/ ... rview?lite
Why in the heck are we just hearing about this now? Especially in a day and age where "journalists" slit each others wrists to break a story???
:fp:Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
Jason P wrote:What the? :?
Why in the heck are we just hearing about this now? Especially in a day and age where "journalists" slit each others wrists to break a story???
:fp:
Hadn't seen this though - "and I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped."
Oh, OK...not EVERY young person...just the ones who appealed to you?
Fucker.0 -
Yes I have heard this before it sounded very damning the first go around too
His lawyers should have shut him up first thing... who does interviews :?
but maybe a method to the madness...
to show how sick he is. His grandeur, his ego, his denial of wrong doing so
typically that of a pedophile. Picking and choosing thinking he was helping, showing special love,
to certain boys, removing his own guilt. Perhaps they want him hospitalized.
But he will most likely go to jail.
The victims will get money and the satisfaction he is stopped.
Parents learn a little more about pedophiles and not to trust anyone,
even admired people, near their children. It is up to them to protect.
Most importantly, parents will have discussed this and hopefully children
will be more empowered and know warning signs and feel they can tell before the fact.0 -
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Man i hope he will just rot in Jail and prove all hi's supporters wrong , HAPPY VALLEY allright ...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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norm wrote:
I have to wonder though...the article said this dude was adopted by them when he was already an adult? Doesn't one have to give consent to that? And if so, how could he?
I'm sure I've said it before but man, this is one fucked up situation.0 -
I would think supporters would be few now considering an adopted son came forward,
perhaps a little late :?
Conspiracy theory amongst the victims, motive for money was something his supporters
used to deny the real Sandusky. Don't think they can be denying any longer who or what he is.
I wonder why mental defect had not been used in his defense,
his lawyers couldn't possibly have thought he would get off.0 -
If he walks I will have zero faith left in our justice system.This show, another show, a show here and a show there.0
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deliberating midway into day 2....asking to re-hear testimony....
should the prosecution worry? the longer deliberations go the better the chances are for the defense...
on the other hand, there are 40 something counts. perhaps they are going through and being very thorough with exactly what he is guilty of....
definitely interesting though. i thought it was an open and shut case...."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
i read yesterday that the da held back many other victims (including matt sandusky) in case he gets off on these charges0
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