Sandusky Trial

polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
edited July 2012 in A Moving Train
Well ... it started ...

it's things like this that I wonder how people can look themselves in the mirror sometimes ... the lawyers for sandusky accusing witnesses of shit ... like, i know its your job but fuck if it was me - there is no way in hell you'd catch me defending a guy like sandusky ...
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  • I'm a TruckI'm a Truck Milwaukee Posts: 3,508
    No amount of money is worth defending that piece of shit! Have fun burning in Hell Sandusky!!
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,593
    Sandusky taking this to trial is just another form of abuse to the victims. making them relieve it on the stand. what a piece of shit. you know you are guilty and have little chance of winning but you are going to let them have to retell the tales. heartbreaking to hear the one witness say he feels guilty because he didn't tell back in the day so there ended up being other victims. and the kid yesterday who is now 18 who told a counselor who didn't believe him. that counselor has to feel like shit today.

    and the massive cover-up by penn state is starting to leak out. they had files and emails about the situation. they said the one guy Curley lied to the grand jury so much that they couldn't even rebutt all the lies that there were so many. i hope all those people who defended penn state and paterno apologize at the end but i doubt they will.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    pjhawks wrote:
    Sandusky taking this to trial is just another form of abuse to the victims. making them relieve it on the stand. what a piece of shit. you know you are guilty and have little chance of winning but you are going to let them have to retell the tales. heartbreaking to hear the one witness say he feels guilty because he didn't tell back in the day so there ended up being other victims. and the kid yesterday who is now 18 who told a counselor who didn't believe him. that counselor has to feel like shit today.

    and the massive cover-up by penn state is starting to leak out. they had files and emails about the situation. they said the one guy Curley lied to the grand jury so much that they couldn't even rebutt all the lies that there were so many. i hope all those people who defended penn state and paterno apologize at the end but i doubt they will.

    ya .. fucking brutal ... :(
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    everyone deserves the best defense possible.
    Defense attorneys rarely ask their clients if they are guilty directly.
    The problem with him is, I think he thinks he did nothing wrong.
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    "After rubbing and cracking my back and rubbing his hands down the back of my shorts and then blowing on the stomach," the witness said.

    The witness then breathed heavily. He followed with a deep sniff of his noise, then hung his head and openly wept.

    "He … "

    More sobs.

    "He put … "

    There was another prolonged sigh. An attempt at a breath. A loud cry.

    "He put his mouth on my privates," the witness said through a broken voice, seemingly just trying to spit it out.

    "I spaced. I didn't know what to do with all the thoughts running through my head. I just blacked out. I didn't want it to happen. I froze."
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    everyone deserves the best defense possible.
    Defense attorneys rarely ask their clients if they are guilty directly.
    The problem with him is, I think he thinks he did nothing wrong.

    yeah ... i get that ...

    but there's no way in hell i could live with myself if my job is to inflict emotional and psychological anguish on someone ... or try to get someone i know is guilty off on a technicality ... no thanks ...
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    polaris_x wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    everyone deserves the best defense possible.
    Defense attorneys rarely ask their clients if they are guilty directly.
    The problem with him is, I think he thinks he did nothing wrong.

    yeah ... i get that ...

    but there's no way in hell i could live with myself if my job is to inflict emotional and psychological anguish on someone ... or try to get someone i know is guilty off on a technicality ... no thanks ...

    I couldn't either, initially was pre-law in school, but after talking with my father who practiced for quite a few years as a defense attorney I opted out quickly. I saw his spirit slowly die over the course of my lifetime and I think a lot of it had to do with constantly defending the same people for the same things.
    It isn't always a glamorous job, and people don't really respect lawyers, especially criminal defense attorneys...until they need one.
    oh, kind of off topic, but Technicalities are often another word for (civil) rights. It keeps the cops honest, nothing wrong with that...if we didn't have them we would be seeing wrongful convictions all over the place.
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • I will be really glad when this all over with -- after i hear he is sentenced to prison the next time he should be in the news is because he is dead.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,897
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    everyone deserves the best defense possible.
    Defense attorneys rarely ask their clients if they are guilty directly.
    The problem with him is, I think he thinks he did nothing wrong.

    yeah ... i get that ...

    but there's no way in hell i could live with myself if my job is to inflict emotional and psychological anguish on someone ... or try to get someone i know is guilty off on a technicality ... no thanks ...

    I couldn't either, initially was pre-law in school, but after talking with my father who practiced for quite a few years as a defense attorney I opted out quickly. I saw his spirit slowly die over the course of my lifetime and I think a lot of it had to do with constantly defending the same people for the same things.
    It isn't always a glamorous job, and people don't really respect lawyers, especially criminal defense attorneys...until they need one.
    oh, kind of off topic, but Technicalities are often another word for (civil) rights. It keeps the cops honest, nothing wrong with that...if we didn't have them we would be seeing wrongful convictions all over the place.

    My sister is a criminal defense attorney and she won't go near sex crimes. Lots of money for those lawyers in drugs and guns though.

    Everyone has the right to their day in court though. I couldn't do his lawyers job.
  • mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
    edited June 2012
    They gave you their trust and you repaid them with lust
    They still quake and cower from burdening that power

    You should have been helping to guide their lives
    Assisting them to forge a course
    But instead of being under your guidance
    They were under the weight of your force

    They were numbers-in-waiting while you were a scout
    They are still numbered and full of self doubt
    Eyes downcast they live with shame
    You walk around
    While they go unnamed

    You should have been a hero
    But instead of looking up to you
    They were looking up at you
    From their knees
    Skinned little knees
    Repeating their pleas
    To stop – please
    Stop

    Tortured little souls, some living hand to mouth
    To wind up in your nasty hands and your filthy fucking mouth
    You infected their lives and permeated their nightmares
    They will never be the same
    Subjected to your sickness
    While you skulk behind your fame

    You took them by their little hands and forever fucked their minds

    with the slimy agonizing touch
    with scales and festering pustules and bile and vomit
    that ooze from the black and putrid heart
    of a child molester
    Post edited by mysticweed on
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    mysticweed, wow...that was powerful as all hell.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,897
    Wow
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    i get being a loyal friend but this woman is as delusional as sandusky

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--jer ... 296aw5nYcB
  • mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
    norm wrote:
    i get being a loyal friend but this woman is as delusional as sandusky

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--jer ... 296aw5nYcB

    stupid cow bitch
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,593
    norm wrote:
    i get being a loyal friend but this woman is as delusional as sandusky

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--jer ... 296aw5nYcB

    wow, what a fucking nutcase. i understand wanting to stick up for a long time friend but holy shit some of her comments are just off the wall. what kind of gym and ymca does this nut job go to? it really is frightening how some people in this world think.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    pjhawks wrote:
    norm wrote:
    i get being a loyal friend but this woman is as delusional as sandusky

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--jer ... 296aw5nYcB

    wow, what a fucking nutcase. i understand wanting to stick up for a long time friend but holy shit some of her comments are just off the wall. what kind of gym and ymca does this nut job go to? it really is frightening how some people in this world think.

    not shocking to me ...

    some people still say george bush was a good president ... :|
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    :fp:
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    pjhawks wrote:
    norm wrote:
    i get being a loyal friend but this woman is as delusional as sandusky

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--jer ... 296aw5nYcB

    wow, what a fucking nutcase. i understand wanting to stick up for a long time friend but holy shit some of her comments are just off the wall. what kind of gym and ymca does this nut job go to? it really is frightening how some people in this world think.
    ...
    Well... I suppose, facts don't matter as long as, based on her gut feeling, she knows Sandusky is a saint. Because... only 8 out of thousands of kids, what's the big deal, right?
    And yeah... what kind of totally fucked up YMCA does she go to? From the photograph of her... I'm going to take a wild stab at it and say, she's not much of a gym rat.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    looks like sandusky might be going to jail for a long time. i read a lot of the testimony and the failed cross examinations. i would not put sandusky on the stand at all if i were amendola. there is no way he can credibly defend himself against some of what was stated the last 3 days...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    mysticweed wrote:
    They gave you their trust and you repaid them with lust
    They still quake and cower from burdening that power

    You should have been helping to guide their lives
    Assisting them to forge a course
    But instead of being under your guidance
    They were under the weight of your force

    They were numbers-in-waiting while you were a scout
    They are still numbered and full of self doubt
    Eyes downcast they live with shame
    You walk around
    While they go unnamed

    You should have been a hero
    But instead of looking up to you
    They were looking up at you
    From their knees
    Skinned little knees
    Repeating their pleas
    To stop – please
    Stop

    Tortured little souls, some living hand to mouth
    To wind up in your nasty hands and your filthy fucking mouth
    You infected their lives and permeated their nightmares
    They will never be the same
    Subjected to your sickness
    While you skulk behind your fame

    You took them by their little hands and forever fucked their minds

    with the slimy agonizing touch
    with scales and festering pustules and bile and vomit
    that ooze from the black and putrid heart
    of a child molester
    awesome
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Isn't putting Penn States supporters on the jury, kind of like the AfroAmericans on the OJ trial?

    I would not bet on this man getting too much time. Probably pay some money, say he's sorry and get right back to coaching..........IT'S THE AMERICAN WAY!

    I mean for all of us who played sports growing up, wasn't having a coach in the shower (we all remember needing a shower after sports when we were 10) showing us all how to wash ourselves. Where is that roll the eyes emocon.

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    i think penn state related jurors have sense enough to put justice ahead of institution.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    i just hope the entire house of cards comes crumbling down ... there was a huge coverup similar to the catholic church and the us military ... everyone needs to be accountable ...
  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,522
    i think penn state related jurors have sense enough to put justice ahead of institution.

    I guess it only takes one, but I agree with you.

    If you look at all the recent Penn State Alumni polls, it clearly shows that even they think less of their University.

    The quote that killed me was that the University President (and Joe Paterno) knew the details of McQueary's account, but didn't go public to treat Sandusky "humanely." I'm still floored by the complete and utter lack of reality these guys were living in and that the NCAA has not done more to sanction this football program. The cover up happened to protect the "program." It's that cut and dried. Children could have been saved if the Asshole Joe Paterno had just put an end to it and said to hell with what happens in our stupid little game.

    There's also a great article on The Slate about why there's really no reason for Sandusky to plead out (which most in his situation would have already) - his age. Even a plea would mean life behind bars. No threat of death penalty (my addition - the article does not mention that). Perhaps, the threat of that would have spared these folks their latest agony.....
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    What do you all think of the wife's role in this?

    From testimony yesterday, she supposedly didn't hear one boy's cries for help while he was being raped in the basement of the Sandusky home.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    i think penn state related jurors have sense enough to put justice ahead of institution.

    I guess it only takes one, but I agree with you.

    If you look at all the recent Penn State Alumni polls, it clearly shows that even they think less of their University.

    The quote that killed me was that the University President (and Joe Paterno) knew the details of McQueary's account, but didn't go public to treat Sandusky "humanely." I'm still floored by the complete and utter lack of reality these guys were living in and that the NCAA has not done more to sanction this football program. The cover up happened to protect the "program." It's that cut and dried. Children could have been saved if the Asshole Joe Paterno had just put an end to it and said to hell with what happens in our stupid little game.

    There's also a great article on The Slate about why there's really no reason for Sandusky to plead out (which most in his situation would have already) - his age. Even a plea would mean life behind bars. No threat of death penalty (my addition - the article does not mention that). Perhaps, the threat of that would have spared these folks their latest agony.....
    i agree with you too. it is going to be more than a conviction for sandusky, but this is an indictment on the entire culture of the penn state football program. too many people had seen something or heard the rumors and did not report the coach because of who he was or how it might affect the program. it is relly sad. what is the old saying? "evil exists when good men stand idly by and do nothing"....or something along those lines. i have forgotten :oops:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing

    as for the wife ... i'm not too sure what to think ... it wouldn't shock me if she was oblivious ...
  • mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
    polaris_x wrote:
    All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing

    as for the wife ... i'm not too sure what to think ... it wouldn't shock me if she was oblivious ...

    i think she had to know
    it couldn't have gone on as long as it did without her knowing something was very very wrong
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    mysticweed wrote:
    i think she had to know
    it couldn't have gone on as long as it did without her knowing something was very very wrong

    maybe ... i don't know ...

    this happened about a decade ago and dude would have been in his late 50's along with his wife ... they would have been married for like almost 40 years ... i can see her being totally oblivious considering they adopted a bunch of kids ...
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    polaris_x wrote:
    mysticweed wrote:
    i think she had to know
    it couldn't have gone on as long as it did without her knowing something was very very wrong

    maybe ... i don't know ...

    this happened about a decade ago and dude would have been in his late 50's along with his wife ... they would have been married for like almost 40 years ... i can see her being totally oblivious considering they adopted a bunch of kids ...
    jesus...those poor adopted kids too. I can't imagine what they might have suffered.

    I'll say this - I too don't know, but it just doesn't make sense to me for this to have happened only once in their home. Chances are it was a regular-basis type of thing (pedophiles tend to be that way) and if you're living with someone THAT long, you just don't "don't know".

    I'm guess she put on blinders and earmuffs - willful oblivion.
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