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Can everyone please call their Representatives and tell them that we do not want to get involved...we do not support another war.
Otherwise if they are so intent on going to war have Congress draft legislation that declares war.
Otherwise if they are so intent on going to war have Congress draft legislation that declares war.
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Is it looking like we're going to get involved?
What persuasion do yo think we have calling or emailing our representatives? (honest question, i've never done it before)
yeah, that situation is kinda fucked...Folks are being executed in their homes...entire families...
I'm with you, though...not much we can do that we are not already doing other that military action (which I do not support at this time)...
Russia is blocking any major intervention...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Just one day after US Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice insisted that attacking Syria without UN backing was “the most probable scenario” for the next presumptive military adventure by the US, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta insisted he “cannot envision” such a thing.
Instead, Panetta insisted that the US would only attack Syria after the United Nations had given them official permission to do so, saying that “the international community and the president are going to have to decide what steps we take.”
Panetta’s comments reflect those he made in early March, in which he told the US Senate that the administration’s goal was “international permission” for the war, and downplayed the idea of seeking Congressional authorization, saying only that Congress would be “informed” about the attack once the president decided.
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/international/middle_east/view/20120601no_us_military_action_in_syria_without_un_authorization_leon_panetta_says/srvc=home&position=recent
http://news.antiwar.com/2012/06/01/panetta-us-wont-attack-syria-without-un-ok/
This is all kinds of wrong. Since when do we take marching orders from the f-ing UN? You want to go in? The have Congress declare war and go in and get out.
I do not support any military action, but I support seeking permission even less.
Obama is a joke.
As for Congress declaring war, since when has that been necessary? (/tongueincheek emoticon)
That said, these fucks can't even figure out a debt ceiling solution after over a year; you really want them in charge if/when we need to go to war?
We had better not get involved, no thanks. My heart goes out to the Syrian people, what a mess, how sad... :( I try to follow as closely as I can with both news updates and first hand accounts.
maybe 100k? 1 million?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/06/07 ... -strategy/
".......broadened diplomatic effort to ease the embattled leader out of power"
yea, war drum so deafening.
The leader of a UN inspection team described the country to be in full-scale civil war at this point.
Bad times.
http://news.yahoo.com/turkey-turns-nato-over-syrian-attack-001605065.html
(fyi - turkey is part of nato)
Speaking to reporters in Geneva, Annan cited "finger-pointing and name-calling" in the 15-nation Security Council as one of the reasons for his decision to step down.
"The world is full of crazy people like me. So don't be surprised if Secretary General Ban Ki-moon can find someone who can do a better job than me," Annan said when asked about a possible successor.
"There may be other plans, other approaches that may work quite effectively," he said, adding that at this stage the focus should still be on a political transition which means "President (Bashar) al-Assad will have to leave sooner or later."
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http://news.yahoo.com/annan-step-down-international-syria-mediator-154545166.html
Looks like he is very frustrated.
It is worth referring once again to the testimony of General Wesley Clark, the former Nato chief, when he recalled a conversation with a Pentagon general in 2001, a few weeks after the September 11 attacks:
‘He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, “I just got this down from upstairs” — meaning the Secretary of Defense’s office — “today.” And he said, “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.”’
that should balance out the CIA intervention reported as helping the rebels.
you know i am all for countries dealing with their own shit. america and her allies do not need to involve themselves in another war.. and this one is a civil war(if any war can be called civil). i know it sucks that the syrian govt doesnt have the best inteerst of her people at heart and therefore can not take the magnanimous step to stand aside and allow the people to speak.. but thats the way it goes. i do not support intervention in this situation. as tough as it is, let syria sort herself out. lets support the US and her allies not being the policemen of the world.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
one should always ask why rather than accept the what. and i have to say that nobel peace prize winner would need all his faculties and more to convince me that what he supports is a good thing.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
But the US has chosen a side, and probably what they foresee as the winning side.
By the way, did you see Libya opened their first Cinnabon this week?
People have been letting themselves get screwed by these fish-bellies for a very long time.
I suppose it may be the case that most people prefer to be lead by the nose, regardless of who's leading them, and of where they're being lead.
And I don't see anything changing anytime soon.
it is sad when a country rips itself apart. the syrian embassy has just been closed here in australia and i will admit that my first thoutgh was selfish.. i thought can they sort it out before the end of next year so i dont have to worry about covering my arse... then i took ahold of myself and thought that my convenience isnt the issue here. i want to travel to syria and sure id rather do it when i wanted to but you know i want the people of syria to be safe..that is the priority... a people shouldnt feel threatened by their government.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
AKCAKALE, Turkey (AP) — Turkey's Parliament authorized military operations against Syria on Thursday and its military fired on targets there for a second day after deadly shelling from Syria killed five civilians in a Turkish border town.
For its part, Syria admitted it was responsible for the shelling that killed five people in Turkey and formally apologized for the deaths, a top Turkish official said.
Deputy Prime Minister Besir Atalay said Syria has reassured the U.N. that "such an incident will not occur again."
The border violence has added a dangerous new dimension to Syria's civil war, dragging Syria's neighbors deeper into a conflict that activists say has already killed 30,000 people since an uprising against President Bashar Assad's regime began in March 2011.
Atalay said Parliament's authorization was not declaration of war on Syria but gives Turkey the right to respond to any future attacks from Syria.
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http://news.yahoo.com/turkey-authorizes-military-operations-syria-115920854.html
Time to go on Twitter and see what the Syrians are saying.