U.S. senator McCain pictured with Syrian rebel kidnapper: paper
BEIRUT (Reuters) - U.S. Senator John McCain was photographed during a trip to Syria with a man implicated in the kidnapping by Syrian rebels of 11 Lebanese Shi'ite pilgrims a year ago, a Lebanese newspaper said on Thursday.
McCain, a Republican, has been an outspoken advocate for U.S. military aid to the rebels fighting President Bashar al-Assad and made a short, highly publicised trip to meet rebel commanders in Syria three days ago.
He has insisted that the United States could locate the "right people" to help among rebel ranks infiltrated with radicalised Islamists.
However, he may have crossed paths with men linked to a group notorious in the region for kidnapping the pilgrims, the Daily Star said.
The paper said that as well as McCain's photographs with rebel commanders, one image showed the face of Mohammad Nour - identified by two freed hostages as the chief spokesman and photographer for the Northern Storm brigade that kidnapped them.
U.S. senator McCain pictured with Syrian rebel kidnapper: paper
BEIRUT (Reuters) - U.S. Senator John McCain was photographed during a trip to Syria with a man implicated in the kidnapping by Syrian rebels of 11 Lebanese Shi'ite pilgrims a year ago, a Lebanese newspaper said on Thursday.
McCain, a Republican, has been an outspoken advocate for U.S. military aid to the rebels fighting President Bashar al-Assad and made a short, highly publicised trip to meet rebel commanders in Syria three days ago.
He has insisted that the United States could locate the "right people" to help among rebel ranks infiltrated with radicalised Islamists.
However, he may have crossed paths with men linked to a group notorious in the region for kidnapping the pilgrims, the Daily Star said.
The paper said that as well as McCain's photographs with rebel commanders, one image showed the face of Mohammad Nour - identified by two freed hostages as the chief spokesman and photographer for the Northern Storm brigade that kidnapped them.
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McCain should know better... The Enemy of my Enemy is still going to try to kill me. Maybe I shouldn't be giving him guns.
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I wonder who chided the US when they had their civil war?
Oh that's right, when one side stands up to another and they put the word war in there, somebody is going to lose. Then you start again. If they'd let these things play out then "we" wouldn't have to divide another population with lines on a map and tell them to behave with their neighbours.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
How long until Obama drops the hammer on Syria? I'm guessing 2-3 weeks. Planes, missiles and troops are being sent to Jordan as part of a "training mission".
I'm guessing the only thing stopping them right now is Russia. But with nerve gas being used, the Kremlin may have to stand down.
How long until Obama drops the hammer on Syria? I'm guessing 2-3 weeks. Planes, missiles and troops are being sent to Jordan as part of a "training mission".
I'm guessing the only thing stopping them right now is Russia. But with nerve gas being used, the Kremlin may have to stand down.
Yep, was watching CNN last night and said he's prepping us for US involvement at any time. When will we ever learn to stay out of it? Maybe I would be more willing to go into Syria or other places but after Rwanda, in particular, I figured out that we only care about 'protecting' people/areas when it benefits the US.
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I don't have kids but if I did I'd push them to become a master welder before sending them to college. Post education is a racket. Inflation included, it has tripled in cost since 1980.
How long until Obama drops the hammer on Syria? I'm guessing 2-3 weeks. Planes, missiles and troops are being sent to Jordan as part of a "training mission".
I'm guessing the only thing stopping them right now is Russia. But with nerve gas being used, the Kremlin may have to stand down.
Assad ISN'T using any chemical weapons. All bullshit war talk. Go ahead, send your troops in, with Russia and Hezbollah there. Wtf does he care, his kids aren't the ones who are gonna die. God dammit, I'm so fucken pissed at us, ALWAYS wanting war! When's enough enough???? Just look back to 06 and what Hezbollah did to Israel. Not a good idea but then again, when is war????
How long until Obama drops the hammer on Syria? I'm guessing 2-3 weeks. Planes, missiles and troops are being sent to Jordan as part of a "training mission".
I'm guessing the only thing stopping them right now is Russia. But with nerve gas being used, the Kremlin may have to stand down.
Assad ISN'T using any chemical weapons. All bullshit war talk. Go ahead, send your troops in, with Russia and Hezbollah there. Wtf does he care, his kids aren't the ones who are gonna die. God dammit, I'm so fucken pissed at us, ALWAYS wanting war! When's enough enough???? Just look back to 06 and what Hezbollah did to Israel. Not a good idea but then again, when is war????
It should only ever be brought to the enemy when they bring it on us. I know that sounds weird to some, but preemptive shit strikes and arming one side over the other in a civil war is so stupid it is almost as if the Feds are doing it out of spite to the American Tax payer. Like when you tell a two year old to eat their ice cream they so no just because you told them too...
Involving us in Syria is the worst decision the Obama administration has made since taking office in January of 2009.
I am wondering if this will spark any venom from those anti war folks on the left...I sure hope so because voices need to be raised here, and the important ones are those in his own party...I think what President Obama shows is that the office of the president is more powerful than any person who sits in it. That the decisions made only sometimes intersect with what was promised, and that more often than not, they will let you down.
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- Joe Rogan
How long until Obama drops the hammer on Syria? I'm guessing 2-3 weeks. Planes, missiles and troops are being sent to Jordan as part of a "training mission".
Wonder if Eddie will bash obama at Wrigley if that happens. :corn:
How long until Obama drops the hammer on Syria? I'm guessing 2-3 weeks. Planes, missiles and troops are being sent to Jordan as part of a "training mission".
Wonder if Eddie will bash obama at Wrigley if that happens. :corn:
How long until Obama drops the hammer on Syria? I'm guessing 2-3 weeks. Planes, missiles and troops are being sent to Jordan as part of a "training mission".
Wonder if Eddie will bash obama at Wrigley if that happens. :corn:
Mmmm :corn:
I hope he does....
I hated W and supported Obama hoping he was different...how I was wrong. We should not be getting involved...let the surrounding countries deal with this....we need to stay out for the best interest of the US.
Ben Rhodes, the White House national security advisor behind the claim that President Bashar Al-Assad used chemical weapons in Syria, is a fiction writer with zero educational background in government, diplomacy or national security who also played a key role in covering up the truth behind the attack on the US consulate in Benghazi.
Ben Rhodes (left). Image: Wikimedia Commons
Yesterday, Rhodes announced that the White House had “high confidence” that the Syrian Army had used chemical weapons, providing no evidence, and that the Obama administration would now take steps to arm FSA rebels, who as has been widely documented are being led by Al-Qaeda terrorists who killed U.S. troops in Iraq. The Wall Street Journal also reports that a no fly zone is being prepared that would embroil the United States in yet another war.
35-year-old Rhodes has been a speechwriter for Obama since 2007 and now enjoys the role of deputy national security adviser for strategic communication. He created the infamous term “kinetic military action” to describe the bombardment of Libya which allowed Obama to skirt around the constitutional question of having to declare war.
Rhodes’ expertise revolves around manufacturing narratives. “He earned a master’s degree in fiction-writing from New York University just a few years ago,” writes Ed Lansky. “He did not have a degree in government, diplomacy, national security; nor has he served in the CIA, or the military. He was toiling away not that long ago on a novel called ‘The Oasis of Love” about a mega church in Houston, a dog track, and a failed romance.”
Rhodes can also count on the support of the US corporate media in selling fairytales about chemical weapons, since his brother David is the president of CBS News.
Now, with no formal investigation at all and no word on the chain of evidence or its source, we are told with absolute certainty that the Assad government has used the weapons. And they can’t tell us because it is secret! Just like magic these things happen when needed!” writes Daniel McAdams.
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
I have a Syrian friend that is pretty heartbroken over the whole thing. She insists that Assad is good and the media is up to something. She's lived in the U.S. her whole life but visits Syria every few years and has a lot of family over there.
US defence contractors have been training the rebels since last year to handle chemical weapons http://news.antiwar.com/2012/12/10/us-d ... l-weapons/
The US decision to hire unaccountable defense contractors to train Syrian rebels to handle stockpiles of chemical weapons seems dangerously irresponsible in the extreme, especially considering how inept Washington has so far been at making sure only trustworthy, secular rebels – to the extent they exist – receive their aid and the weapons that allies in the Gulf Arab states have been providing.
It also feeds accusations that the Syrian Foreign Ministry recently made that the US is working to frame the Syrian regime as having used or prepared for chemical warfare.
Carla del Ponte, one of the lead investigators, said the UN independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law. But she told Swiss-Italian television: "Our investigators have been in neighbouring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week, which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated. This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities."
From late May 2013:
Turkish Police Report: US Supported Al Nusrah Terrorists Possess Chemical Weapons
According to Turkey’s state media agency Zaman, the Turkish General Directorate of Security (Emniyet Genel Müdürlüğü):
[Police have] ceased 2 kg of sarin gas in the city of Adana in the early hours of yesterday morning. The chemical weapons were in the possession of Al Nusra terrorists believed to have been heading for Syria.
Sarin gas is a colourless, odorless substance which is extremely difficult to detect. The gas is banned under the 1993 Chemical Weapons Convention.
The EGM [Turkish Police] identified 12 members of the AL Nusra terrorist cell and also ceased fire arms and digital equipment. This is the second major official confirmation of the use of chemical weapons by Al-Qaeda terrorists in Syria after UN inspector Carla Del Ponte’s recent statement confirming the use of chemical weapons by the Western-backed terrorists in Syria. http://www.globalresearch.ca/turkish-po ... ia/5336917
They've been working on fabricating this for a while....
simply giving arms to a group is rarely all that is involved. we will have boots on the ground there training these people in how to use the weapons. and once russia jumps in to aid assad, we will begin airstrikes of our own. this is gonna be a much wider conflict.
this goes to my point that i have been making here for years. if you and your rebellion are not strong enough to overthrow your government on your own, perhaps you should think twice about starting a fucking civil war. it is not right to drag the rest of the world into your fucking conflict. :nono: :nono:
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
simply giving arms to a group is rarely all that is involved. we will have boots on the ground there training these people in how to use the weapons. and once russia jumps in to aid assad, we will begin airstrikes of our own. this is gonna be a much wider conflict.
this goes to my point that i have been making here for years. if you and your rebellion are not strong enough to overthrow your government on your own, perhaps you should think twice about starting a fucking civil war. it is not right to drag the rest of the world into your fucking conflict. :nono: :nono:
the best thing Russia could do to aid assad is to get him to leave the country. but its not about aiding assad or even helping restore peace to Syria... its about playing chess with the lives of millions of people who mean nothing to those moving the pieces. putin doesn't give a damn about the Syrian people and I doubt anyone else does except the Syrians themselves. politics is a bullshit game played my people with power issues. democracy doesn't exist and it never has. its just a word bandied around to make us feel good. someone, and by someone I mean putin(tho anyone with influence and means will do), needs to take assad aside and remind him how saddam Hussein is fairing these days. someone needs to tell him that the best thing he can do for his people and his country is to leave and go into exile to live out the rest of his life.
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hold my hand
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Kerry is a scumbag and I can't believe I voted for this fraud. All anti-war throwing his medals over the White House fence and now he wants war! What a fucker!
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BEIRUT (Reuters) - U.S. Senator John McCain was photographed during a trip to Syria with a man implicated in the kidnapping by Syrian rebels of 11 Lebanese Shi'ite pilgrims a year ago, a Lebanese newspaper said on Thursday.
McCain, a Republican, has been an outspoken advocate for U.S. military aid to the rebels fighting President Bashar al-Assad and made a short, highly publicised trip to meet rebel commanders in Syria three days ago.
He has insisted that the United States could locate the "right people" to help among rebel ranks infiltrated with radicalised Islamists.
However, he may have crossed paths with men linked to a group notorious in the region for kidnapping the pilgrims, the Daily Star said.
The paper said that as well as McCain's photographs with rebel commanders, one image showed the face of Mohammad Nour - identified by two freed hostages as the chief spokesman and photographer for the Northern Storm brigade that kidnapped them.
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McCain should know better... The Enemy of my Enemy is still going to try to kill me. Maybe I shouldn't be giving him guns.
Hail, Hail!!!
Oh that's right, when one side stands up to another and they put the word war in there, somebody is going to lose. Then you start again. If they'd let these things play out then "we" wouldn't have to divide another population with lines on a map and tell them to behave with their neighbours.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
I'm guessing the only thing stopping them right now is Russia. But with nerve gas being used, the Kremlin may have to stand down.
Yep, was watching CNN last night and said he's prepping us for US involvement at any time. When will we ever learn to stay out of it? Maybe I would be more willing to go into Syria or other places but after Rwanda, in particular, I figured out that we only care about 'protecting' people/areas when it benefits the US.
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
Assad ISN'T using any chemical weapons. All bullshit war talk. Go ahead, send your troops in, with Russia and Hezbollah there. Wtf does he care, his kids aren't the ones who are gonna die. God dammit, I'm so fucken pissed at us, ALWAYS wanting war! When's enough enough???? Just look back to 06 and what Hezbollah did to Israel. Not a good idea but then again, when is war????
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
It should only ever be brought to the enemy when they bring it on us. I know that sounds weird to some, but preemptive shit strikes and arming one side over the other in a civil war is so stupid it is almost as if the Feds are doing it out of spite to the American Tax payer. Like when you tell a two year old to eat their ice cream they so no just because you told them too...
I am interested in why Syria...
I am wondering if this will spark any venom from those anti war folks on the left...I sure hope so because voices need to be raised here, and the important ones are those in his own party...I think what President Obama shows is that the office of the president is more powerful than any person who sits in it. That the decisions made only sometimes intersect with what was promised, and that more often than not, they will let you down.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
What is going to happen this time around?
This sounds familiar... arming rebels... where have I seen this before in history... the 1980's comes to mind.
Wonder if Eddie will bash obama at Wrigley if that happens. :corn:
Mmmm :corn:
I hated W and supported Obama hoping he was different...how I was wrong. We should not be getting involved...let the surrounding countries deal with this....we need to stay out for the best interest of the US.
Ben Rhodes (left). Image: Wikimedia Commons
Yesterday, Rhodes announced that the White House had “high confidence” that the Syrian Army had used chemical weapons, providing no evidence, and that the Obama administration would now take steps to arm FSA rebels, who as has been widely documented are being led by Al-Qaeda terrorists who killed U.S. troops in Iraq. The Wall Street Journal also reports that a no fly zone is being prepared that would embroil the United States in yet another war.
35-year-old Rhodes has been a speechwriter for Obama since 2007 and now enjoys the role of deputy national security adviser for strategic communication. He created the infamous term “kinetic military action” to describe the bombardment of Libya which allowed Obama to skirt around the constitutional question of having to declare war.
Rhodes’ expertise revolves around manufacturing narratives. “He earned a master’s degree in fiction-writing from New York University just a few years ago,” writes Ed Lansky. “He did not have a degree in government, diplomacy, national security; nor has he served in the CIA, or the military. He was toiling away not that long ago on a novel called ‘The Oasis of Love” about a mega church in Houston, a dog track, and a failed romance.”
Rhodes can also count on the support of the US corporate media in selling fairytales about chemical weapons, since his brother David is the president of CBS News.
Now, with no formal investigation at all and no word on the chain of evidence or its source, we are told with absolute certainty that the Assad government has used the weapons. And they can’t tell us because it is secret! Just like magic these things happen when needed!” writes Daniel McAdams.
http://www.infowars.com/man-behind-syrian-chemical-weapons-claim-is-fiction-writer-who-covered-up-benghazi/
does anyone recall a little country called iraq that definitely had weapons of mass destruction??? :fp:
everyone accepted that they did, when the un guys were saying that they didn't. :fp:
do not fucking let it happen again!
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
It's a shitty situation no matter how you see it.
US defence contractors have been training the rebels since last year to handle chemical weapons
http://news.antiwar.com/2012/12/10/us-d ... l-weapons/
The US decision to hire unaccountable defense contractors to train Syrian rebels to handle stockpiles of chemical weapons seems dangerously irresponsible in the extreme, especially considering how inept Washington has so far been at making sure only trustworthy, secular rebels – to the extent they exist – receive their aid and the weapons that allies in the Gulf Arab states have been providing.
It also feeds accusations that the Syrian Foreign Ministry recently made that the US is working to frame the Syrian regime as having used or prepared for chemical warfare.
From early May 2013:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ma ... ar-strikes
Carla del Ponte, one of the lead investigators, said the UN independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law. But she told Swiss-Italian television: "Our investigators have been in neighbouring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week, which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated. This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities."
From late May 2013:
Turkish Police Report: US Supported Al Nusrah Terrorists Possess Chemical Weapons
According to Turkey’s state media agency Zaman, the Turkish General Directorate of Security (Emniyet Genel Müdürlüğü):
[Police have] ceased 2 kg of sarin gas in the city of Adana in the early hours of yesterday morning. The chemical weapons were in the possession of Al Nusra terrorists believed to have been heading for Syria.
Sarin gas is a colourless, odorless substance which is extremely difficult to detect. The gas is banned under the 1993 Chemical Weapons Convention.
The EGM [Turkish Police] identified 12 members of the AL Nusra terrorist cell and also ceased fire arms and digital equipment. This is the second major official confirmation of the use of chemical weapons by Al-Qaeda terrorists in Syria after UN inspector Carla Del Ponte’s recent statement confirming the use of chemical weapons by the Western-backed terrorists in Syria.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/turkish-po ... ia/5336917
They've been working on fabricating this for a while....
simply giving arms to a group is rarely all that is involved. we will have boots on the ground there training these people in how to use the weapons. and once russia jumps in to aid assad, we will begin airstrikes of our own. this is gonna be a much wider conflict.
this goes to my point that i have been making here for years. if you and your rebellion are not strong enough to overthrow your government on your own, perhaps you should think twice about starting a fucking civil war. it is not right to drag the rest of the world into your fucking conflict. :nono: :nono:
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nightly-news/52312234
the best thing Russia could do to aid assad is to get him to leave the country. but its not about aiding assad or even helping restore peace to Syria... its about playing chess with the lives of millions of people who mean nothing to those moving the pieces. putin doesn't give a damn about the Syrian people and I doubt anyone else does except the Syrians themselves. politics is a bullshit game played my people with power issues. democracy doesn't exist and it never has. its just a word bandied around to make us feel good. someone, and by someone I mean putin(tho anyone with influence and means will do), needs to take assad aside and remind him how saddam Hussein is fairing these days. someone needs to tell him that the best thing he can do for his people and his country is to leave and go into exile to live out the rest of his life.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
:roll:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeas ... 18913.html
Maybe.
Now Mr Kerry must have no issue with that.
In turn, Senator Rand Paul asks Sec Kerry, "how to you ask a man to be the first to die for a mistake"?
http://www.businessinsider.com/rand-pau ... rry-2013-9
Kerry is a scumbag and I can't believe I voted for this fraud. All anti-war throwing his medals over the White House fence and now he wants war! What a fucker!