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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    The silence from Hollywood has been deafening over the last several weeks.

    If the exact same scenerio was taking place right now w/ Romney running things, what would be the freak-out level on a scale from 1 - 10?
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Syria has agreed to give up its chemical weapons to Russia. Interesting, let's see what our responses to that
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,724
    badbrains wrote:
    Syria has agreed to give up its chemical weapons to Russia. Interesting, let's see what our responses to that
    how fuckin smart is that Putin guy??..no way to win this guy...he knows very well to play all political games..
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    this change i suspected was orchestrated ... without making this administration seem weak and the less than zero appetite domestically for military strikes - they needed a way out ... and this was it ...

    looks like the MIC will have to go back to africa or go back to running welfare programs ...
  • Shawshank
    Shawshank Posts: 1,018
    Jason P wrote:
    The silence from Hollywood has been deafening over the last several weeks.

    If the exact same scenerio was taking place right now w/ Romney running things, what would be the freak-out level on a scale from 1 - 10?

    I'd have to say it would probably be around 200 on a scale of 1-10, with a couple of TV specials thrown in and maybe an emergency music fest or two opposing the action. All of which would be warranted now, just like they were during the time leading up to Iraq. All I'm saying is, if you are going to oppose or support an action, be consistent and do it no matter who is in office.

    Of course...the silence could be based on the fact that: "A lot of people don't want to feel anti-black by being opposed to Obama," - The Guy Who Played Santa Clause in Elf


    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/syria-why-hollywoods-anti-war-623326

    :fp:
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    Charlie Rose Assad Interview

    Charlie Rose was granted exclusive access to interview Syrian President Bashar al-Assad about the alleged use of chemical weapons and his response to threat of war from the United States.

    http://video.pbs.org/video/2365076639/? ... harlierose
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Jason P wrote:
    The silence from Hollywood has been deafening over the last several weeks.

    If the exact same scenerio was taking place right now w/ Romney running things, what would be the freak-out level on a scale from 1 - 10?
    Though I was big time against Cheney Presidency I agree, probably due to Obama. Great point.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    badbrains wrote:
    Syria has agreed to give up its chemical weapons to Russia. Interesting, let's see what our responses to that

    They aren't giving them to Russia. They agreed to put their weapons under international control.

    I don't see how this plays bad for Obama. Putin suggested that Syria should play ball to avoid a US strike...they agreed. How does that make Obama weak?
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  • Nowhere Man
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    Can anyone recommend a good documentary on Syria? Looking to show a grade 12 Global History/Geography class.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    http://explosivereports.com/2013/07/07/ ... d-planned/

    Former French Foreign Minister: Anglo-French Operations Against Assad “Prepared, Preconceived And Planned”



    Jurriaan Maessen
    ExplosiveReports.Com
    July 7, 2013


    Former French Foreign Minister Roland Dumas recently told syrian news outlet SANA that plans to topple the Syrian Assad-government were in the making prior to the outbreak of the “crisis” that has now spiraled into an all-out civil war.

    Dumas, speaking on the Syrian situation, stated that prior to the outbreak of sectarian conflict within Syria, he was approached by two individuals at a party in London, asking the former French Foreign Minister “if he would like to participate in preparations for an attack on Syria to topple the government in it”, Dumas told SANA on July 1..

    “He said he refused this offer, but events proved that they were serious about what they said at that evening.”

    Dumas also told another outlet that the individuals in question were “top British officials”:

    “I am going to tell you something. I was in England two years before the violence in Syria on other business. I met with top British officials, who confessed to me, that they were preparing something in Syria”

    Concluding that an invasion, or subversion, of Syria was predominantly a British plan, Dumas clearly stated it would be accomplished through “an invasion of rebels”.

    “This was in Britain not in America.”, Dumas stated. “Britain was organizing an invasion of rebels into Syria. They even asked me, although I was no longer Minister of Foreign Affairs, if I would like to participate. Naturally, I refused, I said I am French, that does not interest me”

    Like Iran, these statements by the ex-official clearly illustrate that Syria has found itself in the cross-hairs of Anglo-French aggression for some time now. Roland Dumas, who has served under Francois Mitterand in the late 80′s and early 90s, did not say why exactly he was approached by the two plotters- but he did state he was approached prior to the outbreak of the current crisis in Syria. This points to a pre-planned plot designed to oust the Assad-government in favor of Western interests. Dumas:

    “This operation goes way back. It was prepared, preconceived and planned… in the region it is important to know that this Syrian regime has a very anti-Israeli stance”.

    “Consequently”, Dumas went on to say, “everything that moves in the region…- and I have this from a former Israeli Prime Minister who told me ´we will try to get on with our neighbors but those who don´t agree with us will be destroyed. It is a type of politics, a view of history, why not after all. But one should know about it”

    ...
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    Jason P wrote:
    The silence from Hollywood has been deafening over the last several weeks.

    If the exact same scenerio was taking place right now w/ Romney running things, what would be the freak-out level on a scale from 1 - 10?

    Unfortunately you are correct. You would think that artists would never want to appear as sheep.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Shawshank wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    The silence from Hollywood has been deafening over the last several weeks.

    If the exact same scenerio was taking place right now w/ Romney running things, what would be the freak-out level on a scale from 1 - 10?

    I'd have to say it would probably be around 200 on a scale of 1-10, with a couple of TV specials thrown in and maybe an emergency music fest or two opposing the action. All of which would be warranted now, just like they were during the time leading up to Iraq. All I'm saying is, if you are going to oppose or support an action, be consistent and do it no matter who is in office.

    Of course...the silence could be based on the fact that: "A lot of people don't want to feel anti-black by being opposed to Obama," - The Guy Who Played Santa Clause in Elf


    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/syria-why-hollywoods-anti-war-623326

    :fp:

    The difference being that in the Spring of 2003 we witnessed preparations for a full-scale ground invasion of Iraq, as opposed to plans to engage in a limited bombing campaign.
    Also, the political situation differs, in that even a large percentage of Republicans are opposed to an attack on Syria. Though this may have more to do with the fact that republicans are opposed to everything Obama does, and have been since the day he took office, as opposed to them having suddenly acquired any sort of moral opposition to dropping bombs on brown-skinned people.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Nowhere Man wrote:
    Can anyone recommend a good documentary on Syria? Looking to show a grade 12 Global History/Geography class.


    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... the-lines/
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Well...O-bama accomplished what he set out to do....and without any bombs or shots fired...


    I thought is speech last night was pretty good, too...
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    inmytree wrote:
    Well...O-bama accomplished what he set out to do....and without any bombs or shots fired...


    I thought is speech last night was pretty good, too...
    It is Putin who accomplished what he set out to do.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Jason P wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    Well...O-bama accomplished what he set out to do....and without any bombs or shots fired...


    I thought is speech last night was pretty good, too...
    It is Putin who accomplished what he set out to do.

    oh, yeah...O-bamz can't get credit for anything...sorry, I forgot...
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    We're still gonna find a reason to go in there. Mark my words. We will hit syria wether today, tomorrow or next week, we will and the domino effect of what happens next is gonna be a disaster at a scale not seen. If we hit syria, the whole world is gonna collapse.
    My prediction:

    1-we hit syria
    2-Russia hits Israel
    3-syria hits Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries against them
    4-the people of those Arab countries will rise up against there own government
    5-china will side with syria and maybe even say they want the $$$ owned to them by us
    6-we'll attack china cuz we dnt have the $$$ to give them
    7-Israel will attack syria and Iran
    8-Hezbollah jumps right into the action
    9-basically a war NEVER seen like this. Not even WWII

    God I hope I'm fucken wrong but that's what I feel is gonna happen.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    badbrains wrote:
    We're still gonna find a reason to go in there. Mark my words. We will hit syria wether today, tomorrow or next week, we will and the domino effect of what happens next is gonna be a disaster at a scale not seen. If we hit syria, the whole world is gonna collapse.
    My prediction:

    1-we hit syria
    2-Russia hits Israel
    3-syria hits Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries against them
    4-the people of those Arab countries will rise up against there own government
    5-china will side with syria and maybe even say they want the $$$ owned to them by us
    6-we'll attack china cuz we dnt have the $$$ to give them
    7-Israel will attack syria and Iran
    8-Hezbollah jumps right into the action
    9-basically a war NEVER seen like this. Not even WWII

    God I hope I'm fucken wrong but that's what I feel is gonna happen.

    someone needs to lay off the Glenn Beck for awhile... :mrgreen:
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,724
    badbrains wrote:
    We're still gonna find a reason to go in there. Mark my words. We will hit syria wether today, tomorrow or next week, we will and the domino effect of what happens next is gonna be a disaster at a scale not seen. If we hit syria, the whole world is gonna collapse.
    My prediction:

    1-we hit syria
    2-Russia hits Israel
    3-syria hits Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries against them
    4-the people of those Arab countries will rise up against there own government
    5-china will side with syria and maybe even say they want the $$$ owned to them by us
    6-we'll attack china cuz we dnt have the $$$ to give them
    7-Israel will attack syria and Iran
    8-Hezbollah jumps right into the action
    9-basically a war NEVER seen like this. Not even WWII

    God I hope I'm fucken wrong but that's what I feel is gonna happen.
    i think China is smarter than that!!
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    inmytree wrote:
    badbrains wrote:
    We're still gonna find a reason to go in there. Mark my words. We will hit syria wether today, tomorrow or next week, we will and the domino effect of what happens next is gonna be a disaster at a scale not seen. If we hit syria, the whole world is gonna collapse.
    My prediction:

    1-we hit syria
    2-Russia hits Israel
    3-syria hits Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries against them
    4-the people of those Arab countries will rise up against there own government
    5-china will side with syria and maybe even say they want the $$$ owned to them by us
    6-we'll attack china cuz we dnt have the $$$ to give them
    7-Israel will attack syria and Iran
    8-Hezbollah jumps right into the action
    9-basically a war NEVER seen like this. Not even WWII

    God I hope I'm fucken wrong but that's what I feel is gonna happen.

    someone needs to lay off the Glenn Beck for awhile... :mrgreen:

    You must not really know me.....Glenn beck? Me? Now that's funny :lol:

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