sometimes I find enthusiasm appropriate and invigorating ... just like Ted's and a few here
:corn:
woot woot!
time to be less civil and more demanding of our leaders!
not sure Romney was the best choice for that though ...
his sheep's clothing appears to be too much the same
where's the wife cheatin liar when you need him
and the pizza eatin smilie :P
As a nation, have we been civil with our leaders or just plain apathetic? And have we been less than honest about the realities of the world around us? I think so. The fact that peak oil and its effect on our economy, for example, is seldom discussed by either the general populous or our leaders is a good example of this. I don't see enthusiasm of the sort Mr. Nugent has to offer as taking us anywhere useful.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
"I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him."
Galileo Galilei
Ted is outspoken, passionate, loyal to his roots ie ... the constitution.
This sneaky ass crap our government is doing taking our personal rights and freedoms away in the guise of "protecting" us is bullcrap. :nono: this both reds and blues
It would be the height of ignorance to allow that to continue to happen.
Pandi, political beliefs aside, Ted wrote a song about putting a woman in a "stranglehold" and "smashing" her face.
In my eyes, that alone makes him a colossal prick.
Fuck Teddy and his peanut sized manhood.
Just my opinion.
Peace, Love.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
sometimes I find enthusiasm appropriate and invigorating ... just like Ted's and a few here
:corn:
woot woot!
time to be less civil and more demanding of our leaders!
not sure Romney was the best choice for that though ...
his sheep's clothing appears to be too much the same
where's the wife cheatin liar when you need him
and the pizza eatin smilie :P
As a nation, have we been civil with our leaders or just plain apathetic? And have we been less than honest about the realities of the world around us? I think so. The fact that peak oil and its effect on our economy, for example, is seldom discussed by either the general populous or our leaders is a good example of this. I don't see enthusiasm of the sort Mr. Nugent has to offer as taking us anywhere useful.
actually I think it is taking us to the inevitable ...
so do our leaders
why the losses of freedoms and personal power, economic control, containment.
I guess there is two sides of the coin
apathy and mutiny ...
sometimes I find enthusiasm appropriate and invigorating ... just like Ted's and a few here
:corn:
woot woot!
time to be less civil and more demanding of our leaders!
not sure Romney was the best choice for that though ...
his sheep's clothing appears to be too much the same
where's the wife cheatin liar when you need him
and the pizza eatin smilie :P
As a nation, have we been civil with our leaders or just plain apathetic? And have we been less than honest about the realities of the world around us? I think so. The fact that peak oil and its effect on our economy, for example, is seldom discussed by either the general populous or our leaders is a good example of this. I don't see enthusiasm of the sort Mr. Nugent has to offer as taking us anywhere useful.
actually I think it is taking us to the inevitable ...
so do our leaders why the losses of freedoms and personal power, economic control, containment.
I guess there is two sides of the coin
apathy and mutiny ...
can you tell me what freedoms we have lost? i always hear this argument but see no evidence for the normal working man that we have lost anything. please give me a list.
Pandi, political beliefs aside, Ted wrote a song about putting a woman in a "stranglehold" and "smashing" her face.
In my eyes, that alone makes him a colossal prick.
Fuck Teddy and his peanut sized manhood.
Just my opinion.
:wave: I know little of his music don't own any. Don't really know those lyrics but
I thought it was about his early encounter with drug addiction ...
more figurative than literal.
Which lead to his strong stance against drug use.
I think being a colossal **** was what he was aiming at back in the day
I'm very glad you responded to this, Hedonist. No, this was not directed at you. I mostly don't agree with your comment but I certainly do respect it because your statement is a reflection of your honest feelings on the subject and not an attempt to bate. I apologize if it appeared that my comment was directed toward you.
My comment was a reaction to another post and I don't want to get personal here so I'll just say more generically that having to deal with bating, trolling posts on AMT is always a drag. There are people here who like to try to bate others. That's not the same as stating an opinion. You can state a controversial opinion or one you know others will disagree with in such a way as to not be baiting. Hedonists post is a good example of doing just that- one persons true thoughts stated with forthright honesty in civil manner. That's not the same as trying to bait others. Baiters know who I'm talking about and you know what I mean.
Thanks Hedonist.
Thank you back
And pandora, thanks for the view on Stranglehold; I always thought the riffs kicked ass but hadn't considered the lyrics from the perspective you mentioned. Makes sense.
can you tell me what freedoms we have lost? i always hear this argument but see no evidence for the normal working man that we have lost anything. please give me a list.
normal workng man? ... hope you enjoy your strip search :corn:
this comes to mind but I have a feeling anything anyone would list for you
you would view not as a loss but a gain in national security ...
the basis I disagree with.
This one can tell from the fact you see no evidence and are perhaps trusting of those in power.
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"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
Nugent's a blowhard and says stupid, over-the-top, self-aggrandizing things but I really don't see how anyone took what he said as a threat unless they only heard the 30-second soundbite. His whole speech was about the government taking away rights and his point was that he thinks he'll either wind up being killed because he won't be allowed to arm/defend himself or he'll wind up in jail for breaking one of the laws he thinks will be passed to take away our rights (like gun ownership). I think his point was absurd (I don't think you'll see people forced to give up their guns, let alone by this time next year), but it was hardly threatening (although it was worded in an awkward way--I guess he just assumed people would know what he was implying and God knows that the media is far too dumb and/or unwilling to pick up on subtlety).
His whole "if you disagree with me then you're not a patriot" schtick is tiresome and seems like t's geared more towards stroking his own ego than anything else.
Ted gets attention ... maybe in the years to come he'll run for office
with Hank Jr as his running mate :shock: just kiddin
it is tongue in cheek though yes
but people are listening to them both though and people are disappointed
with the politicians and the machine and the ways of the world
can you tell me what freedoms we have lost? i always hear this argument but see no evidence for the normal working man that we have lost anything. please give me a list.
Take a peek at NDAA and the Patriot Act... Look at CISPA. See what will happen when (if) it passes.
can you tell me what freedoms we have lost? i always hear this argument but see no evidence for the normal working man that we have lost anything. please give me a list.
Take a peek at NDAA and the Patriot Act... Look at CISPA. See what will happen when (if) it passes.
the Patriot Act has given the governement more rights and freedoms, it hasn't really taken away any of your freedoms at least as i define freedom. how is YOUR life different today because of the Patriot Act? is there one thing in YOUR life that you can't do today that you did before the Patriot Act?
not saying the Patriot Act is right, fair or just...but it really has had very little affect on the average american.
so again what can't you do today that you could say 5-10 years ago?
can you tell me what freedoms we have lost? i always hear this argument but see no evidence for the normal working man that we have lost anything. please give me a list.
normal workng man? ... hope you enjoy your strip search :corn:
this comes to mind but I have a feeling anything anyone would list for you
you would view not as a loss but a gain in national security ...
the basis I disagree with.
This one can tell from the fact you see no evidence and are perhaps trusting of those in power.
I fly at least twice a YR and i haven't been stripped searched at all i agree with pjhawks what have you lost as far as freedoms are concerned ....
jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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Didn't think this was gonna be an anti-Ted-thread!
Yes, he entertains. Good for Ted, and good for us. His music, I dig...have done so since I was a kid.
And, to me, I see some sense and a refreshing lack of bullshit and PC-ness to counter his off-the-wall comments.
(much like myself and many I know)
Anyway, yeah. I like him.
So there
Hedonist, I have to say this that not many times in my life I would comfortably use the word HATE but in the case of this idiot Ted Nugent I will say so with peace. This is based soley on something he did at one of his concerts that hurt a friend of mine. I can say i hate this guy and to me he's a fucking idiot...he finds ways to bring out the worst in me. I can tell you what he did in a pm tired of putting it on this board. :evil:
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Didn't think this was gonna be an anti-Ted-thread!
Yes, he entertains. Good for Ted, and good for us. His music, I dig...have done so since I was a kid.
And, to me, I see some sense and a refreshing lack of bullshit and PC-ness to counter his off-the-wall comments.
(much like myself and many I know)
Anyway, yeah. I like him.
So there
Hedonist, I have to say this that not many times in my life I would comfortably use the word HATE but in the case of this idiot Ted Nugent I will say so with peace. This is based soley on something he did at one of his concerts that hurt a friend of mine. I can say i hate this guy and to me he's a fucking idiot...he finds ways to bring out the worst in me. I can tell you what he did in a pm tired of putting it on this board. :evil:
Peace
what did he do?
that's right i'm nosey
peace,
jo
http://www.Etsy.com/Shop/SimpleEarthCreations
"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
"I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him."
Galileo Galilei
Ted is outspoken, passionate, loyal to his roots ie ... the constitution.
This sneaky ass crap our government is doing taking our personal rights and freedoms away in the guise of "protecting" us is bullcrap. :nono: this both reds and blues
It would be the height of ignorance to allow that to continue to happen.
Pandi, political beliefs aside, Ted wrote a song about putting a woman in a "stranglehold" and "smashing" her face.
In my eyes, that alone makes him a colossal prick.
Fuck Teddy and his peanut sized manhood.
Just my opinion.
when you post things like this you have admited defete...you let the Nuge get to you he wins.
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Oh Boy, basically he told HIS fans to rape my friend as he stood above the first 15 rows. He urged to crowd to do so "rape her rape her" who then ripped he clothes and bra. I got seperated from her....If i didn't bust through a bunch of people to get to her then fight them off to get her out of there...who knows what that idiot would have continued to let HIS FANS continue to do.
What so called musician allows HIS FANS to do this to another fan of his or just another human being. Basically that's why I think he's a piece of shit never ever have I seen an incident like that in the 700+ concerts I've seen in various genres of musical concerts.
She was lucky to drag me along to go, he wasn't an interest of mine only that it was my friend and a rock concert. I'm done :(
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Oh Boy, basically he told HIS fans to rape my friend as he stood above the first 15 rows. He urged to crowd to do so "rape her rape her" who then ripped he clothes and bra. I got seperated from her....If i didn't bust through a bunch of people to get to her then fight them off to get her out of there...who knows what that idiot would have continued to let HIS FANS continue to do.
What so called musician allows HIS FANS to do this to another fan of his or just another human being. Basically that's why I think he's a piece of shit never ever have I seen an incident like that in the 700+ concerts I've seen in various genres of musical concerts.
She was lucky to drag me along to go, he wasn't an interest of mine only that it was my friend and a rock concert. I'm done :(
Peace
Whoa that is fucked up and i agree hi's a sorry excuse for a true artist ....
normal workng man? ... hope you enjoy your strip search :corn:
this comes to mind but I have a feeling anything anyone would list for you
you would view not as a loss but a gain in national security ...
the basis I disagree with.
This one can tell from the fact you see no evidence and are perhaps trusting of those in power.
I fly at least twice a YR and i haven't been stripped searched at all i agree with pjhawks what have you lost as far as freedoms are concerned ....
I was speaking about the recent thread we had on Albert W. Florence
not airport related at all
Oh Boy, basically he told HIS fans to rape my friend as he stood above the first 15 rows. He urged to crowd to do so "rape her rape her" who then ripped he clothes and bra. I got seperated from her....If i didn't bust through a bunch of people to get to her then fight them off to get her out of there...who knows what that idiot would have continued to let HIS FANS continue to do.
What so called musician allows HIS FANS to do this to another fan of his or just another human being. Basically that's why I think he's a piece of shit never ever have I seen an incident like that in the 700+ concerts I've seen in various genres of musical concerts.
She was lucky to drag me along to go, he wasn't an interest of mine only that it was my friend and a rock concert. I'm done :(
Peace
yep, i think he's a sicko. i understand how he feels about the constitution and i understand how some of you feel the same way....i get it. And I Do Not think that is what people are upset about. Its not the constitution for sure. Its Ted..its his attitude.
There is NO excuse for any human being encouraging this sort of behavior. NONE.
peace,
jo
http://www.Etsy.com/Shop/SimpleEarthCreations
"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
nugent loses any credibility he may have as a constitutionalist by supporting romney ... if there was a candidate totally entrenched within the establishment ... it's romney ... the guy does what most ignorant people do ... they don't think critically ... they rationalize the world around them to suit their beliefs ...
Didn't think this was gonna be an anti-Ted-thread!
Yes, he entertains. Good for Ted, and good for us. His music, I dig...have done so since I was a kid.
And, to me, I see some sense and a refreshing lack of bullshit and PC-ness to counter his off-the-wall comments.
(much like myself and many I know)
Anyway, yeah. I like him.
So there
Hedonist, I have to say this that not many times in my life I would comfortably use the word HATE but in the case of this idiot Ted Nugent I will say so with peace. This is based soley on something he did at one of his concerts that hurt a friend of mine. I can say i hate this guy and to me he's a fucking idiot...he finds ways to bring out the worst in me. I can tell you what he did in a pm tired of putting it on this board. :evil:
Peace
I just read your post below and totally understand how you would feel this way...and I'm sorry it happened.
can you tell me what freedoms we have lost? i always hear this argument but see no evidence for the normal working man that we have lost anything. please give me a list.
Take a peek at NDAA and the Patriot Act... Look at CISPA. See what will happen when (if) it passes.
the Patriot Act has given the governement more rights and freedoms, it hasn't really taken away any of your freedoms at least as i define freedom. how is YOUR life different today because of the Patriot Act? is there one thing in YOUR life that you can't do today that you did before the Patriot Act?
not saying the Patriot Act is right, fair or just...but it really has had very little affect on the average american.
so again what can't you do today that you could say 5-10 years ago?
I don't have the privacy I used to have. Or at least thought I had. Not saying I can compare it to very much.. I'm only 19.
people need to differentiate between perceived and actual freedom ... it used to be that one was free to live their lives without fear of invasion of privacy ... these days - you could be monitored in your internet usage, phone, etc without consent ... also, you can be renditioned to another country for torture without consequence ... sure, it so happens you haven't been but many have ... most people that were held in guantanamo were innocent of any crimes ... also, people like maher arar who has never done anything wrong got put on a plane and sent to syria to be tortured without cause nor compensation ...
people need to differentiate between perceived and actual freedom ... it used to be that one was free to live their lives without fear of invasion of privacy ... these days - you could be monitored in your internet usage, phone, etc without consent ... also, you can be renditioned to another country for torture without consequence ... sure, it so happens you haven't been but many have ... most people that were held in guantanamo were innocent of any crimes ... also, people like maher arar who has never done anything wrong got put on a plane and sent to syria to be tortured without cause nor compensation ...
Comments
:corn:
woot woot!
time to be less civil and more demanding of our leaders!
not sure Romney was the best choice for that though ...
his sheep's clothing appears to be too much the same
where's the wife cheatin liar when you need him
and the pizza eatin smilie :P
As a nation, have we been civil with our leaders or just plain apathetic? And have we been less than honest about the realities of the world around us? I think so. The fact that peak oil and its effect on our economy, for example, is seldom discussed by either the general populous or our leaders is a good example of this. I don't see enthusiasm of the sort Mr. Nugent has to offer as taking us anywhere useful.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Pandi, political beliefs aside, Ted wrote a song about putting a woman in a "stranglehold" and "smashing" her face.
In my eyes, that alone makes him a colossal prick.
Fuck Teddy and his peanut sized manhood.
Just my opinion.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
so do our leaders
why the losses of freedoms and personal power, economic control, containment.
I guess there is two sides of the coin
apathy and mutiny ...
can you tell me what freedoms we have lost? i always hear this argument but see no evidence for the normal working man that we have lost anything. please give me a list.
I thought it was about his early encounter with drug addiction ...
more figurative than literal.
Which lead to his strong stance against drug use.
I think being a colossal **** was what he was aiming at back in the day
And pandora, thanks for the view on Stranglehold; I always thought the riffs kicked ass but hadn't considered the lyrics from the perspective you mentioned. Makes sense.
this comes to mind but I have a feeling anything anyone would list for you
you would view not as a loss but a gain in national security ...
the basis I disagree with.
This one can tell from the fact you see no evidence and are perhaps trusting of those in power.
cuz if you do
i might just have to shoot ya! :nono:
jo
http://www.Etsy.com/Shop/SimpleEarthCreations
"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
:corn:
His whole "if you disagree with me then you're not a patriot" schtick is tiresome and seems like t's geared more towards stroking his own ego than anything else.
with Hank Jr as his running mate :shock: just kiddin
it is tongue in cheek though yes
but people are listening to them both though and people are disappointed
with the politicians and the machine and the ways of the world
Take a peek at NDAA and the Patriot Act... Look at CISPA. See what will happen when (if) it passes.
the Patriot Act has given the governement more rights and freedoms, it hasn't really taken away any of your freedoms at least as i define freedom. how is YOUR life different today because of the Patriot Act? is there one thing in YOUR life that you can't do today that you did before the Patriot Act?
not saying the Patriot Act is right, fair or just...but it really has had very little affect on the average american.
so again what can't you do today that you could say 5-10 years ago?
I fly at least twice a YR and i haven't been stripped searched at all i agree with pjhawks what have you lost as far as freedoms are concerned ....
Hedonist, I have to say this that not many times in my life I would comfortably use the word HATE but in the case of this idiot Ted Nugent I will say so with peace. This is based soley on something he did at one of his concerts that hurt a friend of mine. I can say i hate this guy and to me he's a fucking idiot...he finds ways to bring out the worst in me. I can tell you what he did in a pm tired of putting it on this board. :evil:
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
what did he do?
that's right i'm nosey
jo
http://www.Etsy.com/Shop/SimpleEarthCreations
"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
Godfather.
What so called musician allows HIS FANS to do this to another fan of his or just another human being. Basically that's why I think he's a piece of shit never ever have I seen an incident like that in the 700+ concerts I've seen in various genres of musical concerts.
She was lucky to drag me along to go, he wasn't an interest of mine only that it was my friend and a rock concert. I'm done :(
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Whoa that is fucked up and i agree hi's a sorry excuse for a true artist ....
not airport related at all
yep, i think he's a sicko. i understand how he feels about the constitution and i understand how some of you feel the same way....i get it. And I Do Not think that is what people are upset about. Its not the constitution for sure. Its Ted..its his attitude.
There is NO excuse for any human being encouraging this sort of behavior. NONE.
jo
http://www.Etsy.com/Shop/SimpleEarthCreations
"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
(and a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overrated guitar player)
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
I don't have the privacy I used to have. Or at least thought I had. Not saying I can compare it to very much.. I'm only 19.
Thank you, absolutely agree.