6 pages dedicated to discussing Ted Nugent, on a Pearl Jam message board.
I seriously wonder if any of the band ever read any of this shit?
If I was in a band and noticed that some/any of my fans were pro-death penalty, Pro-Republican, Pro-guns, and/or pro-Ted Nugent, I'd have to stop and ask myself some serious questions.
I've had that exact same thought, Byrnzie, here and elsewhere. I hope the guys in PJ don't bother to read AMT. It might lead one or two of them to give up music for plumbing or archery. PJ fan who are pro-death penalty, Pro-Republican, Pro-guns, and/or pro-Ted Nugent? Baffling... to say the least.
Each to his/her own I guess. What a weird world. :fp:
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
What's not so baffling is the judgmental attitudes of a few here, that gets old :nono:
Pearl Jam is about the music and love guys! When will the few learn :fp:
We all got it for them! That should be a bond.
And if someone loves Ted or his music or his views I'm sure our wonderful
band members would be open minded enough to appreciate that for what it is
their choice, their right, their opinion.
whether the laws "allow" for it or not (I'm still not sure how the Patriot act would trump the fifth amendment), I tried to find a list of US citizens since 2001 who have been "renditioned to another country for torture without consequence" and I couldn't find one...
It's more of a violation of the Fourth in my opinion
I was particularly thinking about due process which is the fifth. my point was, I don't see how if the government detained a US citizen could use the Patriot act as justification, because it would deprive you of due process. Has a federal court ruled on the law's constitutionality in that respect?
While I'm not citing the Patriot Act, I think if we look at Japanese internment during WWII the constitutionality of "protecting" us from the threat posed by the Japanese was questioned by the case of Korematsu v. US. The Supreme Court upheld the actions of the US govt. to restrict the civil liberties of ANYone of Japanese ancestry. Check it out here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korematsu_v._United_States
I bring up this case to highlight the fact that we citizens are often willing to give up some rights if the govt. convinces us its ok in order to protect us. First from the likes of the Japanese then Soviet communism and now terrorism. If we are willing to give up small liberties where does it end? For example, I worked for a brokerage firm for 5 years. I worked in an office with ONE other person for 5 years. I held all my accounts there as did my husband, my parents, my children and my in-laws. After passage of the Patriot Act, I had to show this same guy my state issued ID to PROVE I was indeed myself. A small thing? Perhaps, but if we give in on the small things so the govt. can "protect" us how long before we are asked to give up things we don't want to?
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
6 pages dedicated to discussing Ted Nugent, on a Pearl Jam message board.
I seriously wonder if any of the band ever read any of this shit?
If I was in a band and noticed that some/any of my fans were pro-death penalty, Pro-Republican, Pro-guns, and/or pro-Ted Nugent, I'd have to stop and ask myself some serious questions.
maybe they like fans that think for them selfs and have an opinion of the world around them that is not a mechinical response from a brain washed groupie. ohhhh that one went over the green monster ladies and gentlmen.
6 pages dedicated to discussing Ted Nugent, on a Pearl Jam message board.
I seriously wonder if any of the band ever read any of this shit?
If I was in a band and noticed that some/any of my fans were pro-death penalty, Pro-Republican, Pro-guns, and/or pro-Ted Nugent, I'd have to stop and ask myself some serious questions.
I would be amazed at the amount of social barriers my music crosses in different and meaningful ways.
I would probably be more turned off by intolerance of others...
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Journey to the center of the mind... one of the finer songs
I never knew he did that song till the last thread on him a few months back,
kind of backs up what I had heard.
Its a favorite of mine as a kid a nice trippy song.
If he never did drugs in the late 60's/ 70's well he must have been an outcast!
Amboy Dukes, baby.
He def. was somewhat "outcast" in his sobriety.
But then again those that say he was "loopy" in any event ... I think Ted cops to that himself.
I've heard him say he is "high on life" or "high on the mojo of being Ted Nugent" ... something to that effect. Lol.
I can't speak to him asking fans to rape other fans (???) but "Stranglehold" is CLEARLY a satirical song ...
the lines before "got you in a stranglehold now, baby - you best get out of my way" are "you ran that night that you left me - you put me in my place" ... i think it's just a song about a girl that loved him, then dumped him ... then now she wants him back (or something) but "tough shit", essentially.
I dunno.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
I imagine their are plenty of PJ fans who have no interest in the politics of the band...who just happen to like the band for the music. Why should the band care about the politics of their fan base? It would also be extremely naive of the band to think that their entire fan base supports the same view of as them.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
nugent is the kind of person who the republicans pander to and try to court. i hope ted keeps talking because it will expose him to potential voters for who he is. romney needs to distance himself from this lunatic, which he has yet to do several days after the fact. i say mitt will let this guy carry the water for him... he needs someone to help recruit the crazies.
i love how in his rants he rattled off that we are losing our freedom and obama is wiping his ass with the constitution, etc...my question to ted is to please provide specific examples to back up your positions.
it is very easy and convenient to make the accusations...it is exponentionally more difficult to actually provide examples and facts to back your positions. and nugent is not capable of the latter.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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nugent is the kind of person who the republicans pander to and try to court. i hope ted keeps talking because it will expose him to potential voters for who he is. romney needs to distance himself from this lunatic, which he has yet to do several days after the fact. i say mitt will let this guy carry the water for him... he needs someone to help recruit the crazies.
i love how in his rants he rattled off that we are losing our freedom and obama is wiping his ass with the constitution, etc...my question to ted is to please provide specific examples to back up your positions.
it is very easy and convenient to make the accusations...it is exponentionally more difficult to actually provide examples and facts to back your positions. and nugent is not capable of the latter.
So true! What he is good at is getting attention, negative or otherwise.
Not saying you can't love his music (I don't) but is their any love in his music or in his mind other than love of guns?
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
6 pages dedicated to discussing Ted Nugent, on a Pearl Jam message board.
I seriously wonder if any of the band ever read any of this shit?
If I was in a band and noticed that some/any of my fans were pro-death penalty, Pro-Republican, Pro-guns, and/or pro-Ted Nugent, I'd have to stop and ask myself some serious questions.
This is Pearl Jam, not the Indigo Girls. Get over it.
I was particularly thinking about due process which is the fifth. my point was, I don't see how if the government detained a US citizen could use the Patriot act as justification, because it would deprive you of due process. Has a federal court ruled on the law's constitutionality in that respect?
While I'm not citing the Patriot Act, I think if we look at Japanese internment during WWII the constitutionality of "protecting" us from the threat posed by the Japanese was questioned by the case of Korematsu v. US. The Supreme Court upheld the actions of the US govt. to restrict the civil liberties of ANYone of Japanese ancestry. Check it out here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korematsu_v._United_States
I bring up this case to highlight the fact that we citizens are often willing to give up some rights if the govt. convinces us its ok in order to protect us. First from the likes of the Japanese then Soviet communism and now terrorism. If we are willing to give up small liberties where does it end? For example, I worked for a brokerage firm for 5 years. I worked in an office with ONE other person for 5 years. I held all my accounts there as did my husband, my parents, my children and my in-laws. After passage of the Patriot Act, I had to show this same guy my state issued ID to PROVE I was indeed myself. A small thing? Perhaps, but if we give in on the small things so the govt. can "protect" us how long before we are asked to give up things we don't want to?
yeah but we learned from that. nothing like what happened re Japanese internment would ever happen today. it just wouldn't.
look at even the wiki article you cited. Korematsu's conviction for evading internment was overturned in Federal Court, and Former Supreme Court Justice Tom C. Clark wrote that "The truth is, the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, and despite the Fifth Amendment's command that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law, both of these constitutional safeguards were denied by military action under Executive Order 9066..."
if there were a need / instance to challenge that decision today, the Supreme Court would strike it down 9-0.
nugent is the kind of person who the republicans pander to and try to court. i hope ted keeps talking because it will expose him to potential voters for who he is. romney needs to distance himself from this lunatic, which he has yet to do several days after the fact. i say mitt will let this guy carry the water for him... he needs someone to help recruit the crazies.
i love how in his rants he rattled off that we are losing our freedom and obama is wiping his ass with the constitution, etc...my question to ted is to please provide specific examples to back up your positions.
it is very easy and convenient to make the accusations...it is exponentionally more difficult to actually provide examples and facts to back your positions. and nugent is not capable of the latter.
So true! What he is good at is getting attention, negative or otherwise.
Not saying you can't love his music (I don't) but is their any love in his music or in his mind other than love of guns?
love song by Ted...
Everytime I hear your name you know
I wonder why you wanted to go
I said no you couldn't come along for the ride
I said hey, I want outta here and nobody taggin behind
{chorus}
Don'tcha know I love you so I told you a lie
I love you so I told you a lie when I told you goodbye
A family life and a lovin wife just ain't my kinda scene
Well when I'm all alone, when the nights are cold
I get to thinkin I was kinda mean
We coulda had a good thing but I never wanted to try
{chorus}
You know I told you a lie
*solo*
ah, ah ah, ah ah
ut, ah ah, ah ah
ah, ah ah, ah ah
ut, ah ah, ah ah
A family life and a lovin wife just ain't my kinda scene
Well when I'm all alone, when the nights are cold
I get to thinkin I was kinda mean
We coulda had a good thing but I never wanted to try
Everytime I hear your name you know
I wonder why you wanted to go
I said no you couldn't come along for the ride
I said hey, I want outta here and nobody taggin behind
{chorus}
Don'tcha know I love you so I told you a lie
I love you so I told you a lie when I told you goodbye
A family life and a lovin wife just ain't my kinda scene
Well when I'm all alone, when the nights are cold
I get to thinkin I was kinda mean
We coulda had a good thing but I never wanted to try
{chorus}
You know I told you a lie
*solo*
ah, ah ah, ah ah
ut, ah ah, ah ah
ah, ah ah, ah ah
ut, ah ah, ah ah
A family life and a lovin wife just ain't my kinda scene
Well when I'm all alone, when the nights are cold
I get to thinkin I was kinda mean
We coulda had a good thing but I never wanted to try
{chorus}
You know I told you a lie when I told you goodbye
Don'tcha know, I love you so I
Don'tcha know, I love you so I told you
Don'tcha know, I love you so I told you a lie
Love you so I told you a lie
I loved you so I told you a lie (2)
Loved you so, loved you so
ahhhhh
Loved you so I told you a lie
ahhhhhh
Loved you so I told you a lie
Ted definitely does not have Godfather's way with words
Dennis Jensen of the Rutland Herald is blasting Ted Nugent for the rocker’s outspoken support of President Bush and the war in Iraq. “The Nuge is also a big fan of the current war in Iraq,” Jensen writes. “In fact, the 57-year-old rocker also ‘told it like it is’ during the Vietnam War. Here’s Ted on what he would have done if he went to Vietnam: ‘… if I would have gone over there, I’d have been killed, or I’d have killed, or I’d kill all the hippies in the foxholes … I would have killed everybody,’ he told the Detroit Free Press in an interview published July 15, 1990. Fortunately, for our hero, Ted didn’t go to Vietnam. And how Ted managed to avoid the draft makes President Bush look like a war hero. In that 1990 interview with the Free Press and from information collected from the Chickenhawk Web site, Nugent told about how he avoided the draft: ‘He claims that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment.’ It says volumes about the character of a man who calls himself the Motor City Madman. The Detroit native went out of his way to avoid the defining experience of his generation, then has the gall to talk about how eagerly he would have killed, ‘if’ he had served.”
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Dennis Jensen of the Rutland Herald is blasting Ted Nugent for the rocker’s outspoken support of President Bush and the war in Iraq. “The Nuge is also a big fan of the current war in Iraq,” Jensen writes. “In fact, the 57-year-old rocker also ‘told it like it is’ during the Vietnam War. Here’s Ted on what he would have done if he went to Vietnam: ‘… if I would have gone over there, I’d have been killed, or I’d have killed, or I’d kill all the hippies in the foxholes … I would have killed everybody,’ he told the Detroit Free Press in an interview published July 15, 1990. Fortunately, for our hero, Ted didn’t go to Vietnam. And how Ted managed to avoid the draft makes President Bush look like a war hero. In that 1990 interview with the Free Press and from information collected from the Chickenhawk Web site, Nugent told about how he avoided the draft: ‘He claims that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment.’ It says volumes about the character of a man who calls himself the Motor City Madman. The Detroit native went out of his way to avoid the defining experience of his generation, then has the gall to talk about how eagerly he would have killed, ‘if’ he had served.”
seems very mad man like to me.
Nugent is a physical representation of the Internet tough guy. He is very tough and out spoken when situations don't call for it... Seems like when faced with opportunities to show true American spirit he has shied away like his draft deferment technique, I bet he actually believes he did the right thing because he would probably have been too dangerous for one of the most violent wars in history...Nugent is a character of himself. He has created a character that may previously have been separate from his actually personality. But now embodies that personality. He needs attention. He gets it this way. I wonder how crazy he would get if everyone just pretended he wasn't there.
I prefer to use people like him as a barometer for my sanity. On days where I feel like I am going crazy mugatu style...I just think of people like Ted or the guy who just got tazed and didn't miss a beat...and suddenly I feel better about my situation.
Ted is a train wreck...a wonderfully ridiculous train wreck.
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Everytime I hear your name you know
I wonder why you wanted to go
I said no you couldn't come along for the ride
I said hey, I want outta here and nobody taggin behind
{chorus}
Don'tcha know I love you so I told you a lie
I love you so I told you a lie when I told you goodbye
A family life and a lovin wife just ain't my kinda scene
Well when I'm all alone, when the nights are cold
I get to thinkin I was kinda mean
We coulda had a good thing but I never wanted to try
{chorus}
You know I told you a lie
*solo*
ah, ah ah, ah ah
ut, ah ah, ah ah
ah, ah ah, ah ah
ut, ah ah, ah ah
A family life and a lovin wife just ain't my kinda scene
Well when I'm all alone, when the nights are cold
I get to thinkin I was kinda mean
We coulda had a good thing but I never wanted to try
{chorus}
You know I told you a lie when I told you goodbye
Don'tcha know, I love you so I
Don'tcha know, I love you so I told you
Don'tcha know, I love you so I told you a lie
Love you so I told you a lie
I loved you so I told you a lie (2)
Loved you so, loved you so
ahhhhh
Loved you so I told you a lie
ahhhhhh
Loved you so I told you a lie
Ted definitely does not have Godfather's way with words
You of all people surprised me with this comment. A person who calls the bullshit by its name and doesn’t back away just because the crowd grows loud.
Ted Nugent is the head of the NRA who made a creditable threat against the President of the United States of America during a speech at a National Rifle Association conference. The Secret Service has every right to question him, and good old Ted should consider himself lucky they are extending him the courtesy of clarifying his remarks.
Ted’s an idiot in the context that if he had done his homework, he would know that it is Congress and the Courts at both the State and National level that is wiping their asses with the Constitution and then giving it to the U.S. Supreme Court to tell them it’s ok – your shit don’t stink.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
You of all people surprised me with this comment. A person who calls the bullshit by its name and doesn’t back away just because the crowd grows loud.
Ted Nugent is the head of the NRA who made a creditable threat against the President of the United States of America during a speech at a National Rifle Association conference. The Secret Service has every right to question him, and good old Ted should consider himself lucky they are extending him the courtesy of clarifying his remarks.
Ted’s an idiot in the context that if he had done his homework, he would know that it is Congress and the Courts at both the State and National level that is wiping their asses with the Constitution and then giving it to the U.S. Supreme Court to tell them it’s ok – your shit don’t stink.
Ted's position and his words, along with his seemingly crazy attitude makes him a creditable threat of influence. Ted knows what he is doing, he's not the idiot rocker people want to believe he is.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
I imagine their are plenty of PJ fans who have no interest in the politics of the band...who just happen to like the band for the music. Why should the band care about the politics of their fan base? It would also be extremely naive of the band to think that their entire fan base supports the same view of as them.
The NRA party rocked
Posted on April 19, 2012 at 10:18am
Ted Nugent is a musician, author, and activist from Detroit, Michigan. The guitarist and singer has recorded 35 albums and sold over 40 million worldwide. Ted […] Ted Nugent is a musician, author, and activist from Detroit, Michigan. The guitarist and singer has recorded 35 albums and sold over 40 million worldwide. Ted is an award-winning writer for over 40 publications, and author of the New York Times best sellers Ted White & Blue: The Nugent Manifesto and God, Guns and Rock 'n' Roll, along with Kill It and Grill It, BloodTrails and BloodTrails II. Ted has been re-elected for his sixth term on the Board of Directors of the NRA, and worked as a national spokesman for D.A.R.E and as Ambassador for Big Brothers/Big Sisters and the Pass It On Outdoor Mentors Program.
If all of America was just like the great families at the NRA 141st Annual Members meeting in St. Louis last weekend, our country would be flawless. Surrounded by my family, friends, patriots, law enforcement and military heroes, veterans who have sacrificed dearly for freedom and the US Constitution, the goodwill and positive energy in the air was cleansing to say the least. We set another attendance record for the NRA and for St. Louis. It was downright perfect.
I spent all three days doing fundraisers for children’s and military charities, fondling much hardware, meeting legions of good folks at the Ted Nugent Ammo exhibit, and shaking hands with great Americans, Canadians, Brits and freedom loving people from around the globe.
As always, I also conducted numerous media interviews providing unlimited self-evident truth and the inexhaustible evidence supporting the beauty of keeping and bearing arms for defense of self, family and liberty. Unarmed helplessness is for sheep. Such an embarrassing, irresponsible, crime inducing condition is inexcusable.
On Sunday, April 15, my killer MotorCity soulbrother, Derek St. Holmes joined me onstage for an impromptu celebration of Motown classics and my firebreathing soundtrack of defiance and God given, constitutionally guaranteed individual rights. Much enthusiastic footstomping and dancing erupted like it was the 4th of July.
Introduced lovingly by the great Texas’ Attorney General Gregg Abbot, I took the stage, humbled yet proud that such a gathering of fine people would unite to hear the old guitar player raise hell for a better America.
My speech, just like every year at NRA, was about the unlimited greatness of this sacred experiment in self-government, thanking the heroes of the US Military and law enforcement for their incredible sacrifices waging war against the enemies of freedom wherever it may slither.
But beyond all that is good, the real duty of we the people is to watch out for and fight against the bad and the ugly brought about by people of power that historically have always abused it.
I named names. I called out Eric Holder for his fast and furious and other offenses. I railed against our president for his engineered dismantling of the once greatest economy in the world. I reminded everyone how Hillary Clinton sides with the evil criminals of the UN instead of her own great nation. I reminded good Americans that it isn’t the enemies fault for sneaking into the White House and abusing power, but rather we the people for bending over and allowing them to take corruption to a horrible new level.
I begged everyone to register and vote, because warriors give up their lives so that we can. I spotlighted cockroaches and rallied those who care to stomp em out at the voting booth in November, as is my duty as an American.
By no stretch of the imagination did I ever threaten anyone’s life, or hint of violence or mayhem. Metaphors needn’t be explained to educated people.
I passionately rallied the American civilian troops to stand up for what is right and to demand that the US Constitution and Bill of Rights are once again forced into determining all laws and policies in America.
Then in their ever desperate scramble to divert attention from the crimes of their communist leaders, the Saul Alinsky “Rules for Radicals” leftwing media and terminally liberal democrats circled their battlewagons of deceit and hate and unleashed their tsunami of lies about me and everything I said.
To me, my family and thinking America, the dysfunctional leftwing hate hysteria was laughable. I became the #1 global tweet entity of the bogus blogosphere, while every newspaper and America hating television and radio gang literally tripped over themselves in a feeble attempt to out-lie each other.
I personally have never been prouder. If my daily activities and simple statements of truth and logic can cause such bizarre over-reaction by so many, I need no more evidence that I am on the right track. When doing God’s work, the devils go bonzo. So be it.
I stand by my statements. The line is drawn in the American sand. I stand with patriots who love this country and wake up early every day to put our hearts and souls into being an asset for America, our fellow Americans, people of the world and the good earth.
Those who despise me blindly chant Mao Tse Tung and Che’ Guevara rants, and the difference between our good and their bad is glaring.
Choose your side carefully America. The shining city on the hill is under attack from within.
"The really important thing is not to live, but to live well. And to live well meant, along with more enjoyable things in life, to live according to your principles."
— Socrates
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I've had that exact same thought, Byrnzie, here and elsewhere. I hope the guys in PJ don't bother to read AMT. It might lead one or two of them to give up music for plumbing or archery. PJ fan who are pro-death penalty, Pro-Republican, Pro-guns, and/or pro-Ted Nugent? Baffling... to say the least.
Each to his/her own I guess. What a weird world. :fp:
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Pearl Jam is about the music and love guys! When will the few learn :fp:
We all got it for them! That should be a bond.
And if someone loves Ted or his music or his views I'm sure our wonderful
band members would be open minded enough to appreciate that for what it is
their choice, their right, their opinion.
Spread the PJ love and encourage the bond!
While I'm not citing the Patriot Act, I think if we look at Japanese internment during WWII the constitutionality of "protecting" us from the threat posed by the Japanese was questioned by the case of Korematsu v. US. The Supreme Court upheld the actions of the US govt. to restrict the civil liberties of ANYone of Japanese ancestry. Check it out here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korematsu_v._United_States
I bring up this case to highlight the fact that we citizens are often willing to give up some rights if the govt. convinces us its ok in order to protect us. First from the likes of the Japanese then Soviet communism and now terrorism. If we are willing to give up small liberties where does it end? For example, I worked for a brokerage firm for 5 years. I worked in an office with ONE other person for 5 years. I held all my accounts there as did my husband, my parents, my children and my in-laws. After passage of the Patriot Act, I had to show this same guy my state issued ID to PROVE I was indeed myself. A small thing? Perhaps, but if we give in on the small things so the govt. can "protect" us how long before we are asked to give up things we don't want to?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
Godfather.
I would be amazed at the amount of social barriers my music crosses in different and meaningful ways.
I would probably be more turned off by intolerance of others...
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Amboy Dukes, baby.
He def. was somewhat "outcast" in his sobriety.
But then again those that say he was "loopy" in any event ... I think Ted cops to that himself.
I've heard him say he is "high on life" or "high on the mojo of being Ted Nugent" ... something to that effect. Lol.
I can't speak to him asking fans to rape other fans (???) but "Stranglehold" is CLEARLY a satirical song ...
the lines before "got you in a stranglehold now, baby - you best get out of my way" are "you ran that night that you left me - you put me in my place" ... i think it's just a song about a girl that loved him, then dumped him ... then now she wants him back (or something) but "tough shit", essentially.
I dunno.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
question or statement?
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
i love how in his rants he rattled off that we are losing our freedom and obama is wiping his ass with the constitution, etc...my question to ted is to please provide specific examples to back up your positions.
it is very easy and convenient to make the accusations...it is exponentionally more difficult to actually provide examples and facts to back your positions. and nugent is not capable of the latter.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
So true! What he is good at is getting attention, negative or otherwise.
Not saying you can't love his music (I don't) but is their any love in his music or in his mind other than love of guns?
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
that about sums it up.
Godfather.
The news loves them and so do the people!
Lookie the number of pages here ...
how boring would it be without his kind
yeah but we learned from that. nothing like what happened re Japanese internment would ever happen today. it just wouldn't.
look at even the wiki article you cited. Korematsu's conviction for evading internment was overturned in Federal Court, and Former Supreme Court Justice Tom C. Clark wrote that "The truth is, the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, and despite the Fifth Amendment's command that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law, both of these constitutional safeguards were denied by military action under Executive Order 9066..."
if there were a need / instance to challenge that decision today, the Supreme Court would strike it down 9-0.
love song by Ted...
Everytime I hear your name you know
I wonder why you wanted to go
I said no you couldn't come along for the ride
I said hey, I want outta here and nobody taggin behind
{chorus}
Don'tcha know I love you so I told you a lie
I love you so I told you a lie when I told you goodbye
A family life and a lovin wife just ain't my kinda scene
Well when I'm all alone, when the nights are cold
I get to thinkin I was kinda mean
We coulda had a good thing but I never wanted to try
{chorus}
You know I told you a lie
*solo*
ah, ah ah, ah ah
ut, ah ah, ah ah
ah, ah ah, ah ah
ut, ah ah, ah ah
A family life and a lovin wife just ain't my kinda scene
Well when I'm all alone, when the nights are cold
I get to thinkin I was kinda mean
We coulda had a good thing but I never wanted to try
{chorus}
You know I told you a lie when I told you goodbye
Don'tcha know, I love you so I
Don'tcha know, I love you so I told you
Don'tcha know, I love you so I told you a lie
Love you so I told you a lie
I loved you so I told you a lie (2)
Loved you so, loved you so
ahhhhh
Loved you so I told you a lie
ahhhhhh
Loved you so I told you a lie
Bravo and bravo.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
I'm gathering romance isn't really Ted's thing
I was thinking the same.
similar stories are all over the web that quote him bragging about how he avoided going to war...
Ted Nugent: Call Him Chickenhawk
Posted on June 22, 2006 by rockdirt
http://rockdirt.com/ted-nugent-call-him ... awk/18842/
Dennis Jensen of the Rutland Herald is blasting Ted Nugent for the rocker’s outspoken support of President Bush and the war in Iraq. “The Nuge is also a big fan of the current war in Iraq,” Jensen writes. “In fact, the 57-year-old rocker also ‘told it like it is’ during the Vietnam War. Here’s Ted on what he would have done if he went to Vietnam: ‘… if I would have gone over there, I’d have been killed, or I’d have killed, or I’d kill all the hippies in the foxholes … I would have killed everybody,’ he told the Detroit Free Press in an interview published July 15, 1990. Fortunately, for our hero, Ted didn’t go to Vietnam. And how Ted managed to avoid the draft makes President Bush look like a war hero. In that 1990 interview with the Free Press and from information collected from the Chickenhawk Web site, Nugent told about how he avoided the draft: ‘He claims that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment.’ It says volumes about the character of a man who calls himself the Motor City Madman. The Detroit native went out of his way to avoid the defining experience of his generation, then has the gall to talk about how eagerly he would have killed, ‘if’ he had served.”
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
seems very mad man like to me.
Nugent is a physical representation of the Internet tough guy. He is very tough and out spoken when situations don't call for it... Seems like when faced with opportunities to show true American spirit he has shied away like his draft deferment technique, I bet he actually believes he did the right thing because he would probably have been too dangerous for one of the most violent wars in history...Nugent is a character of himself. He has created a character that may previously have been separate from his actually personality. But now embodies that personality. He needs attention. He gets it this way. I wonder how crazy he would get if everyone just pretended he wasn't there.
I prefer to use people like him as a barometer for my sanity. On days where I feel like I am going crazy mugatu style...I just think of people like Ted or the guy who just got tazed and didn't miss a beat...and suddenly I feel better about my situation.
Ted is a train wreck...a wonderfully ridiculous train wreck.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
heads change over 30 years for sure ... I bet he'd kick some ass now
many were getting out of the draft with very creative ideas
I mean the draft so very different than enlisting ...
forcing or choosing
most people don't want to be forced to do anything ...
let alone kill!
Pandi you rock !
Godfather.
You of all people surprised me with this comment. A person who calls the bullshit by its name and doesn’t back away just because the crowd grows loud.
Ted Nugent is the head of the NRA who made a creditable threat against the President of the United States of America during a speech at a National Rifle Association conference. The Secret Service has every right to question him, and good old Ted should consider himself lucky they are extending him the courtesy of clarifying his remarks.
Ted’s an idiot in the context that if he had done his homework, he would know that it is Congress and the Courts at both the State and National level that is wiping their asses with the Constitution and then giving it to the U.S. Supreme Court to tell them it’s ok – your shit don’t stink.
Ted's position and his words, along with his seemingly crazy attitude makes him a creditable threat of influence. Ted knows what he is doing, he's not the idiot rocker people want to believe he is.
Fair enough.
But Ted Nugent? :fp:
Posted on April 19, 2012 at 10:18am
Ted Nugent is a musician, author, and activist from Detroit, Michigan. The guitarist and singer has recorded 35 albums and sold over 40 million worldwide. Ted […] Ted Nugent is a musician, author, and activist from Detroit, Michigan. The guitarist and singer has recorded 35 albums and sold over 40 million worldwide. Ted is an award-winning writer for over 40 publications, and author of the New York Times best sellers Ted White & Blue: The Nugent Manifesto and God, Guns and Rock 'n' Roll, along with Kill It and Grill It, BloodTrails and BloodTrails II. Ted has been re-elected for his sixth term on the Board of Directors of the NRA, and worked as a national spokesman for D.A.R.E and as Ambassador for Big Brothers/Big Sisters and the Pass It On Outdoor Mentors Program.
If all of America was just like the great families at the NRA 141st Annual Members meeting in St. Louis last weekend, our country would be flawless. Surrounded by my family, friends, patriots, law enforcement and military heroes, veterans who have sacrificed dearly for freedom and the US Constitution, the goodwill and positive energy in the air was cleansing to say the least. We set another attendance record for the NRA and for St. Louis. It was downright perfect.
I spent all three days doing fundraisers for children’s and military charities, fondling much hardware, meeting legions of good folks at the Ted Nugent Ammo exhibit, and shaking hands with great Americans, Canadians, Brits and freedom loving people from around the globe.
As always, I also conducted numerous media interviews providing unlimited self-evident truth and the inexhaustible evidence supporting the beauty of keeping and bearing arms for defense of self, family and liberty. Unarmed helplessness is for sheep. Such an embarrassing, irresponsible, crime inducing condition is inexcusable.
On Sunday, April 15, my killer MotorCity soulbrother, Derek St. Holmes joined me onstage for an impromptu celebration of Motown classics and my firebreathing soundtrack of defiance and God given, constitutionally guaranteed individual rights. Much enthusiastic footstomping and dancing erupted like it was the 4th of July.
Introduced lovingly by the great Texas’ Attorney General Gregg Abbot, I took the stage, humbled yet proud that such a gathering of fine people would unite to hear the old guitar player raise hell for a better America.
My speech, just like every year at NRA, was about the unlimited greatness of this sacred experiment in self-government, thanking the heroes of the US Military and law enforcement for their incredible sacrifices waging war against the enemies of freedom wherever it may slither.
But beyond all that is good, the real duty of we the people is to watch out for and fight against the bad and the ugly brought about by people of power that historically have always abused it.
I named names. I called out Eric Holder for his fast and furious and other offenses. I railed against our president for his engineered dismantling of the once greatest economy in the world. I reminded everyone how Hillary Clinton sides with the evil criminals of the UN instead of her own great nation. I reminded good Americans that it isn’t the enemies fault for sneaking into the White House and abusing power, but rather we the people for bending over and allowing them to take corruption to a horrible new level.
I begged everyone to register and vote, because warriors give up their lives so that we can. I spotlighted cockroaches and rallied those who care to stomp em out at the voting booth in November, as is my duty as an American.
By no stretch of the imagination did I ever threaten anyone’s life, or hint of violence or mayhem. Metaphors needn’t be explained to educated people.
I passionately rallied the American civilian troops to stand up for what is right and to demand that the US Constitution and Bill of Rights are once again forced into determining all laws and policies in America.
Then in their ever desperate scramble to divert attention from the crimes of their communist leaders, the Saul Alinsky “Rules for Radicals” leftwing media and terminally liberal democrats circled their battlewagons of deceit and hate and unleashed their tsunami of lies about me and everything I said.
To me, my family and thinking America, the dysfunctional leftwing hate hysteria was laughable. I became the #1 global tweet entity of the bogus blogosphere, while every newspaper and America hating television and radio gang literally tripped over themselves in a feeble attempt to out-lie each other.
I personally have never been prouder. If my daily activities and simple statements of truth and logic can cause such bizarre over-reaction by so many, I need no more evidence that I am on the right track. When doing God’s work, the devils go bonzo. So be it.
I stand by my statements. The line is drawn in the American sand. I stand with patriots who love this country and wake up early every day to put our hearts and souls into being an asset for America, our fellow Americans, people of the world and the good earth.
Those who despise me blindly chant Mao Tse Tung and Che’ Guevara rants, and the difference between our good and their bad is glaring.
Choose your side carefully America. The shining city on the hill is under attack from within.
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— Socrates
Godfather.
big mouth + big gun = big fucking pussy...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."