ted nugent politics

chadwick

pandora wrote:

the wolf wrote:

Pandi, political beliefs aside, Ted wrote a song about putting a woman in a "stranglehold" and "smashing" her face.
In my eyes, that alone makes him a colossal prick.

Fuck Teddy and his peanut sized manhood.

Just my opinion.

:wave: I know little of his music don't own any. Don't really know those lyrics but
I thought it was about his early encounter with drug addiction ...
more figurative than literal.
Which lead to his strong stance against drug use.

I think being a colossal **** was what he was aiming at back in the day

pandora,
nugent claims to never-ever have used drugs. strangle hold is a love song. that is what nugent himself says.

peacefrompaul

josevolution wrote:

pandora wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

can you tell me what freedoms we have lost? i always hear this argument but see no evidence for the normal working man that we have lost anything. please give me a list.

normal workng man? ... hope you enjoy your strip search :corn:

this comes to mind but I have a feeling anything anyone would list for you
you would view not as a loss but a gain in national security ...
the basis I disagree with.

This one can tell from the fact you see no evidence and are perhaps trusting of those in power.

I fly at least twice a YR and i haven't been stripped searched at all i agree with pjhawks what have you lost as far as freedoms are concerned ....

http://news.yahoo.com/supreme-court-oks ... 03062.html

peacefrompaul

chadwick wrote:

pandora wrote:

the wolf wrote:

Pandi, political beliefs aside, Ted wrote a song about putting a woman in a "stranglehold" and "smashing" her face.
In my eyes, that alone makes him a colossal prick.

Fuck Teddy and his peanut sized manhood.

Just my opinion.

:wave: I know little of his music don't own any. Don't really know those lyrics but
I thought it was about his early encounter with drug addiction ...
more figurative than literal.
Which lead to his strong stance against drug use.

I think being a colossal **** was what he was aiming at back in the day

pandora,
nugent claims to never-ever have used drugs. strangle hold is a love song. that is what nugent himself says.

Yeah I think he's just a little loopy. I read one of his books a few years back... Oh I have it right here... God, Guns, & Rock 'n' Roll

chadwick

http://youtu.be/uqxmPjB0WSs
Habeas Corpus

what exactly is habeas corpus? someone, in your own simple words please give us all a bit of a lesson in political knowledge

3 minutes in and i have no idea what's going on :lolno:
i thought i clicked on a habas corpus video

4 minutes in before habeas corpus was spoken

Godfather.

g under p wrote:

Oh Boy, basically he told HIS fans to rape my friend as he stood above the first 15 rows. He urged to crowd to do so "rape her rape her" who then ripped he clothes and bra. I got seperated from her....If i didn't bust through a bunch of people to get to her then fight them off to get her out of there...who knows what that idiot would have continued to let HIS FANS continue to do.

What so called musician allows HIS FANS to do this to another fan of his or just another human being. Basically that's why I think he's a piece of shit never ever have I seen an incident like that in the 700+ concerts I've seen in various genres of musical concerts.

She was lucky to drag me along to go, he wasn't an interest of mine only that it was my friend and a rock concert. I'm done

Peace

I'm calling bullshit on this bro.

Godfather.

Jason P

chadwick wrote:

nugent claims to never-ever have used drugs

I would rather tell people I did do drugs to explain my erratic behavior.

Like the director the the Kony doc that was naked and whacking off in broad daylight ... his wife claims he wasn't on drugs ... I would tell everyone I was fucked-up beyond disbelief!! At least people will just shrug it off as you being super high. Instead they will think you are actually nuts.

BinauralJam

Godfather. wrote:

g under p wrote:

Oh Boy, basically he told HIS fans to rape my friend as he stood above the first 15 rows. He urged to crowd to do so "rape her rape her" who then ripped he clothes and bra. I got seperated from her....If i didn't bust through a bunch of people to get to her then fight them off to get her out of there...who knows what that idiot would have continued to let HIS FANS continue to do.

What so called musician allows HIS FANS to do this to another fan of his or just another human being. Basically that's why I think he's a piece of shit never ever have I seen an incident like that in the 700+ concerts I've seen in various genres of musical concerts.

She was lucky to drag me along to go, he wasn't an interest of mine only that it was my friend and a rock concert. I'm done

Peace

I'm calling bullshit on this bro.

Godfather.

I've seen G under P post this story in the past about Nugent, i beleive on the Other Music thread. It wasn't politically motivated then, i dont belive it is this time either. Just seems to be stating what a dick Nugent is from his experiance.

peacefrompaul

chadwick wrote:

http://youtu.be/uqxmPjB0WSs
Habeas Corpus

what exactly is habeas corpus? someone, in your own simple words please give us all a bit of a lesson in political knowledge

3 minutes in and i have no idea what's going on
i thought i clicked on a habas corpus video

4 minutes in before habeas corpus was spoken

It's a judicial mandate saying a prisoner will be brought before the court to decide if the government has the right to continue holding them.

A prisoner (or someone representing them) will have it filed and a judge will decide.

Godfather.

what are the Nuge view on politics you guys don't like ?...really his political views...whats the problem you guys have with them.

Godfather.

chadwick

Godfather. wrote:

what are the Nuge view on politics you guys don't like ?...really his political views...whats the problem you guys have with them.

Godfather.

what i wrote on the first page about what he said recently in regards to the obama administration

i think he is tryig to get things stired up

pandora

chadwick wrote:

pandora wrote:

the wolf wrote:

Pandi, political beliefs aside, Ted wrote a song about putting a woman in a "stranglehold" and "smashing" her face.
In my eyes, that alone makes him a colossal prick.

Fuck Teddy and his peanut sized manhood.

Just my opinion.

:wave: I know little of his music don't own any. Don't really know those lyrics but
I thought it was about his early encounter with drug addiction ...
more figurative than literal.
Which lead to his strong stance against drug use.

I think being a colossal **** was what he was aiming at back in the day

pandora,
nugent claims to never-ever have used drugs. strangle hold is a love song. that is what nugent himself says.

I think he claims not to take his words literally in the song also
and yes I have heard the chit chat over the drugs back in the day,
heard something to the contrary.

Journey to the center of the mind... one of the finer songs
I never knew he did that song till the last thread on him a few months back,
kind of backs up what I had heard.

Its a favorite of mine as a kid a nice trippy song.

If he never did drugs in the late 60's/ 70's well he must have been an outcast!

jimc3

polaris_x wrote:

people need to differentiate between perceived and actual freedom ... it used to be that one was free to live their lives without fear of invasion of privacy ... these days - you could be monitored in your internet usage, phone, etc without consent ... also, you can be renditioned to another country for torture without consequence ... sure, it so happens you haven't been but many have ... most people that were held in guantanamo were innocent of any crimes ... also, people like maher arar who has never done anything wrong got put on a plane and sent to syria to be tortured without cause nor compensation ...

maher arar was not a US citizen, nor were "most people that were held in guantanamo"

polaris_x

jimc3 wrote:

maher arar was not a US citizen, nor were "most people that were held in guantanamo"

ya ... but the rendition laws allow for the same to happen to us citizens whether captured in the US or abroad ...

chadwick

pandora,
http://youtu.be/oKTdgjZwRO8
ted on hendrix and other musicians and their drug use

hendrix offered ted his pills and whatnot. ted turned him down.

Godfather.

chadwick wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

what are the Nuge view on politics you guys don't like ?...really his political views...whats the problem you guys have with them.

Godfather.

what i wrote on the first page about what he said recently in regards to the obama administration

i think he is tryig to get things stired up

I just watched the video of his rant and he may sound a little pissed off but his statements/ideas about our country are spot on...he is a little abraisive

Godfather.

jimc3

polaris_x wrote:

jimc3 wrote:

maher arar was not a US citizen, nor were "most people that were held in guantanamo"

ya ... but the rendition laws allow for the same to happen to us citizens whether captured in the US or abroad ...

whether the laws "allow" for it or not (I'm still not sure how the Patriot act would trump the fifth amendment), I tried to find a list of US citizens since 2001 who have been "renditioned to another country for torture without consequence" and I couldn't find one...

polaris_x

jimc3 wrote:

whether the laws "allow" for it or not (I'm still not sure how the Patriot act would trump the fifth amendment), I tried to find a list of US citizens since 2001 who have been "renditioned to another country for torture without consequence" and I couldn't find one...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 12772.html

chadwick

"broken glass sandwiches" = drugs and booze..


i love that.

jimc3

polaris_x wrote:

jimc3 wrote:

whether the laws "allow" for it or not (I'm still not sure how the Patriot act would trump the fifth amendment), I tried to find a list of US citizens since 2001 who have been "renditioned to another country for torture without consequence" and I couldn't find one...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 12772.html

so the list, in 10 and a half years, is one guy who was voluntarily living in a country under the control of an Islamist fundamentalist militia http://blog.heritage.org/2011/09/07/cas ... of-action/

if the "cost of freedom" in today's world is that I shouldn't move to Somalia (!) under Islamist fundamentalist militia control...yeah, I think I can live with that

polaris_x

jimc3 wrote:

so the list, in 10 and a half years, is one guy who was voluntarily living in a country under the control of an Islamist fundamentalist militia http://blog.heritage.org/2011/09/07/cas ... of-action/

if the "cost of freedom" in today's world is that I shouldn't move to Somalia (!) under Islamist fundamentalist militia control...yeah, I think I can live with that

i haven't made a list ... the invasion into civil liberties goes beyond rendition and such ...

if you are ok with it ... that's fine cuz really based on this logic - you can have 100 people and it really is a drop in the bucket ... as long as it isn't you ...