Pandi, political beliefs aside, Ted wrote a song about putting a woman in a "stranglehold" and "smashing" her face.
In my eyes, that alone makes him a colossal prick.
Fuck Teddy and his peanut sized manhood.
Just my opinion.
:wave: I know little of his music don't own any. Don't really know those lyrics but
I thought it was about his early encounter with drug addiction ...
more figurative than literal.
Which lead to his strong stance against drug use.
I think being a colossal **** was what he was aiming at back in the day
pandora,
nugent claims to never-ever have used drugs. strangle hold is a love song. that is what nugent himself says.
can you tell me what freedoms we have lost? i always hear this argument but see no evidence for the normal working man that we have lost anything. please give me a list.
normal workng man? ... hope you enjoy your strip search :corn:
this comes to mind but I have a feeling anything anyone would list for you
you would view not as a loss but a gain in national security ...
the basis I disagree with.
This one can tell from the fact you see no evidence and are perhaps trusting of those in power.
I fly at least twice a YR and i haven't been stripped searched at all i agree with pjhawks what have you lost as far as freedoms are concerned ....
Pandi, political beliefs aside, Ted wrote a song about putting a woman in a "stranglehold" and "smashing" her face.
In my eyes, that alone makes him a colossal prick.
Fuck Teddy and his peanut sized manhood.
Just my opinion.
:wave: I know little of his music don't own any. Don't really know those lyrics but
I thought it was about his early encounter with drug addiction ...
more figurative than literal.
Which lead to his strong stance against drug use.
I think being a colossal **** was what he was aiming at back in the day
pandora,
nugent claims to never-ever have used drugs. strangle hold is a love song. that is what nugent himself says.
Yeah I think he's just a little loopy. I read one of his books a few years back... Oh I have it right here... God, Guns, & Rock 'n' Roll
Oh Boy, basically he told HIS fans to rape my friend as he stood above the first 15 rows. He urged to crowd to do so "rape her rape her" who then ripped he clothes and bra. I got seperated from her....If i didn't bust through a bunch of people to get to her then fight them off to get her out of there...who knows what that idiot would have continued to let HIS FANS continue to do.
What so called musician allows HIS FANS to do this to another fan of his or just another human being. Basically that's why I think he's a piece of shit never ever have I seen an incident like that in the 700+ concerts I've seen in various genres of musical concerts.
She was lucky to drag me along to go, he wasn't an interest of mine only that it was my friend and a rock concert. I'm done :(
I would rather tell people I did do drugs to explain my erratic behavior.
Like the director the the Kony doc that was naked and whacking off in broad daylight ... his wife claims he wasn't on drugs ... I would tell everyone I was fucked-up beyond disbelief!! At least people will just shrug it off as you being super high. Instead they will think you are actually nuts.
Oh Boy, basically he told HIS fans to rape my friend as he stood above the first 15 rows. He urged to crowd to do so "rape her rape her" who then ripped he clothes and bra. I got seperated from her....If i didn't bust through a bunch of people to get to her then fight them off to get her out of there...who knows what that idiot would have continued to let HIS FANS continue to do.
What so called musician allows HIS FANS to do this to another fan of his or just another human being. Basically that's why I think he's a piece of shit never ever have I seen an incident like that in the 700+ concerts I've seen in various genres of musical concerts.
She was lucky to drag me along to go, he wasn't an interest of mine only that it was my friend and a rock concert. I'm done :(
Peace
I'm calling bullshit on this bro.
Godfather.
I've seen G under P post this story in the past about Nugent, i beleive on the Other Music thread. It wasn't politically motivated then, i dont belive it is this time either. Just seems to be stating what a dick Nugent is from his experiance.
Pandi, political beliefs aside, Ted wrote a song about putting a woman in a "stranglehold" and "smashing" her face.
In my eyes, that alone makes him a colossal prick.
Fuck Teddy and his peanut sized manhood.
Just my opinion.
:wave: I know little of his music don't own any. Don't really know those lyrics but
I thought it was about his early encounter with drug addiction ...
more figurative than literal.
Which lead to his strong stance against drug use.
I think being a colossal **** was what he was aiming at back in the day
pandora,
nugent claims to never-ever have used drugs. strangle hold is a love song. that is what nugent himself says.
I think he claims not to take his words literally in the song also
and yes I have heard the chit chat over the drugs back in the day,
heard something to the contrary.
Journey to the center of the mind... one of the finer songs
I never knew he did that song till the last thread on him a few months back,
kind of backs up what I had heard.
Its a favorite of mine as a kid a nice trippy song.
If he never did drugs in the late 60's/ 70's well he must have been an outcast!
people need to differentiate between perceived and actual freedom ... it used to be that one was free to live their lives without fear of invasion of privacy ... these days - you could be monitored in your internet usage, phone, etc without consent ... also, you can be renditioned to another country for torture without consequence ... sure, it so happens you haven't been but many have ... most people that were held in guantanamo were innocent of any crimes ... also, people like maher arar who has never done anything wrong got put on a plane and sent to syria to be tortured without cause nor compensation ...
maher arar was not a US citizen, nor were "most people that were held in guantanamo"
what are the Nuge view on politics you guys don't like ?...really his political views...whats the problem you guys have with them.
Godfather.
what i wrote on the first page about what he said recently in regards to the obama administration
i think he is tryig to get things stired up
I just watched the video of his rant and he may sound a little pissed off but his statements/ideas about our country are spot on...he is a little abraisive
maher arar was not a US citizen, nor were "most people that were held in guantanamo"
ya ... but the rendition laws allow for the same to happen to us citizens whether captured in the US or abroad ...
whether the laws "allow" for it or not (I'm still not sure how the Patriot act would trump the fifth amendment), I tried to find a list of US citizens since 2001 who have been "renditioned to another country for torture without consequence" and I couldn't find one...
whether the laws "allow" for it or not (I'm still not sure how the Patriot act would trump the fifth amendment), I tried to find a list of US citizens since 2001 who have been "renditioned to another country for torture without consequence" and I couldn't find one...
whether the laws "allow" for it or not (I'm still not sure how the Patriot act would trump the fifth amendment), I tried to find a list of US citizens since 2001 who have been "renditioned to another country for torture without consequence" and I couldn't find one...
if the "cost of freedom" in today's world is that I shouldn't move to Somalia (!) under Islamist fundamentalist militia control...yeah, I think I can live with that
if the "cost of freedom" in today's world is that I shouldn't move to Somalia (!) under Islamist fundamentalist militia control...yeah, I think I can live with that
i haven't made a list ... the invasion into civil liberties goes beyond rendition and such ...
if you are ok with it ... that's fine cuz really based on this logic - you can have 100 people and it really is a drop in the bucket ... as long as it isn't you ...
if the "cost of freedom" in today's world is that I shouldn't move to Somalia (!) under Islamist fundamentalist militia control...yeah, I think I can live with that
i haven't made a list ... the invasion into civil liberties goes beyond rendition and such ...
if you are ok with it ... that's fine cuz really based on this logic - you can have 100 people and it really is a drop in the bucket ... as long as it isn't you ...
i wouldn't actually call the guy in that article the 'average american' - again show me where the average working american's 'freedoms' have been taken away. show me where mr. and mrs. joe smith can't do something today that they could legally do 10-20 years ago.
surely we are being monitored more, but that is not taking away our freedoms. the average american is still free to do legally what we could legally do before.
and not arguing that some of the rights our government now has aren't out of line. just stating that i think those gov't rights don't affect 99.9% of americans so using the term taking our freedoms away is a bit of a stretch.
For the last decade I've heard how evil the Patriot act is and how it takes away our rights. And for the last decade no terror cells have been able to operate and conduct attacks.
For the last decade I've heard how evil the Patriot act is and how it takes away our rights. And for the last decade no terror cells have been able to operate and conduct attacks.
Exactly i live here in NY and not one ...Something must be getting done correctly no ..
if the "cost of freedom" in today's world is that I shouldn't move to Somalia (!) under Islamist fundamentalist militia control...yeah, I think I can live with that
i haven't made a list ... the invasion into civil liberties goes beyond rendition and such ...
if you are ok with it ... that's fine cuz really based on this logic - you can have 100 people and it really is a drop in the bucket ... as long as it isn't you ...
no way dude. one person (One!) in 10+ years is obviously an accident.
it's obvious a US citizen is ten thousand times more likely to be abducted by a Mexican drug cartel then they are of being wrongly whisked away to a secret Turkish prison and tortured for months with no access to council.
there's zero evidence that over a decade, the government is even remotely engaged in the practice of capturing US citizens and having them "renditioned to another country for torture without consequence".
hendrix offered ted his pills and whatnot. ted turned him down.
oh that Ted ... he can be a little hypocritical from what I've heard.
Is that his boy with him?
I have read a couple opinion articles that say ...
watching what drugs did to other rockers helped straighten him up,
as least this has been rumored,
as was the case for others and he is a national spokesman for DARE
for 15- 20 years I believe.
He's got it right though clean nature's living is the right kind of high ...
that and no fast food unless you shoot it yourself.
For the last decade I've heard how evil the Patriot act is and how it takes away our rights. And for the last decade no terror cells have been able to operate and conduct attacks.
Exactly i live here in NY and not one ...Something must be getting done correctly no ..
maher arar was not a US citizen, nor were "most people that were held in guantanamo"
ya ... but the rendition laws allow for the same to happen to us citizens whether captured in the US or abroad ...
whether the laws "allow" for it or not (I'm still not sure how the Patriot act would trump the fifth amendment), I tried to find a list of US citizens since 2001 who have been "renditioned to another country for torture without consequence" and I couldn't find one...
It's more of a violation of the Fourth in my opinion
whether the laws "allow" for it or not (I'm still not sure how the Patriot act would trump the fifth amendment), I tried to find a list of US citizens since 2001 who have been "renditioned to another country for torture without consequence" and I couldn't find one...
It's more of a violation of the Fourth in my opinion
I was particularly thinking about due process which is the fifth. my point was, I don't see how if the government detained a US citizen could use the Patriot act as justification, because it would deprive you of due process. Has a federal court ruled on the law's constitutionality in that respect?
whether the laws "allow" for it or not (I'm still not sure how the Patriot act would trump the fifth amendment), I tried to find a list of US citizens since 2001 who have been "renditioned to another country for torture without consequence" and I couldn't find one...
It's more of a violation of the Fourth in my opinion
I was particularly thinking about due process which is the fifth. my point was, I don't see how if the government detained a US citizen could use the Patriot act as justification, because it would deprive you of due process. Has a federal court ruled on the law's constitutionality in that respect?
And I was thinking of the wire-tapping and such... Yeah I see your Fifth and call you a Fourth.
They've taken up parts of it I believe. If it's not struck down or brought to court then I don't see why they couldn't use it as justification. I could be wrong.
Edit: Wow... That attempt at humour was pretty terrible. My apologies
6 pages dedicated to discussing Ted Nugent, on a Pearl Jam message board.
I seriously wonder if any of the band ever read any of this shit?
If I was in a band and noticed that some/any of my fans were pro-death penalty, Pro-Republican, Pro-guns, and/or pro-Ted Nugent, I'd have to stop and ask myself some serious questions.
Comments
nugent claims to never-ever have used drugs. strangle hold is a love song. that is what nugent himself says.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
http://news.yahoo.com/supreme-court-oks ... 03062.html
Yeah I think he's just a little loopy. I read one of his books a few years back... Oh I have it right here...
Habeas Corpus
what exactly is habeas corpus? someone, in your own simple words please give us all a bit of a lesson in political knowledge
3 minutes in and i have no idea what's going on :lolno:
i thought i clicked on a habas corpus video
4 minutes in before habeas corpus was spoken
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I'm calling bullshit on this bro.
Godfather.
Like the director the the Kony doc that was naked and whacking off in broad daylight ... his wife claims he wasn't on drugs ... I would tell everyone I was fucked-up beyond disbelief!! At least people will just shrug it off as you being super high. Instead they will think you are actually nuts.
I've seen G under P post this story in the past about Nugent, i beleive on the Other Music thread. It wasn't politically motivated then, i dont belive it is this time either. Just seems to be stating what a dick Nugent is from his experiance.
It's a judicial mandate saying a prisoner will be brought before the court to decide if the government has the right to continue holding them.
A prisoner (or someone representing them) will have it filed and a judge will decide.
Godfather.
i think he is tryig to get things stired up
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
and yes I have heard the chit chat over the drugs back in the day,
heard something to the contrary.
Journey to the center of the mind... one of the finer songs
I never knew he did that song till the last thread on him a few months back,
kind of backs up what I had heard.
Its a favorite of mine as a kid a nice trippy song.
If he never did drugs in the late 60's/ 70's well he must have been an outcast!
maher arar was not a US citizen, nor were "most people that were held in guantanamo"
ya ... but the rendition laws allow for the same to happen to us citizens whether captured in the US or abroad ...
http://youtu.be/oKTdgjZwRO8
ted on hendrix and other musicians and their drug use
hendrix offered ted his pills and whatnot. ted turned him down.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I just watched the video of his rant and he may sound a little pissed off but his statements/ideas about our country are spot on...he is a little abraisive
Godfather.
whether the laws "allow" for it or not (I'm still not sure how the Patriot act would trump the fifth amendment), I tried to find a list of US citizens since 2001 who have been "renditioned to another country for torture without consequence" and I couldn't find one...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 12772.html
i love that.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
so the list, in 10 and a half years, is one guy who was voluntarily living in a country under the control of an Islamist fundamentalist militia http://blog.heritage.org/2011/09/07/cas ... of-action/
if the "cost of freedom" in today's world is that I shouldn't move to Somalia (!) under Islamist fundamentalist militia control...yeah, I think I can live with that
i haven't made a list ... the invasion into civil liberties goes beyond rendition and such ...
if you are ok with it ... that's fine cuz really based on this logic - you can have 100 people and it really is a drop in the bucket ... as long as it isn't you ...
i wouldn't actually call the guy in that article the 'average american' - again show me where the average working american's 'freedoms' have been taken away. show me where mr. and mrs. joe smith can't do something today that they could legally do 10-20 years ago.
surely we are being monitored more, but that is not taking away our freedoms. the average american is still free to do legally what we could legally do before.
and not arguing that some of the rights our government now has aren't out of line. just stating that i think those gov't rights don't affect 99.9% of americans so using the term taking our freedoms away is a bit of a stretch.
Exactly i live here in NY and not one ...Something must be getting done correctly no ..
no way dude. one person (One!) in 10+ years is obviously an accident.
it's obvious a US citizen is ten thousand times more likely to be abducted by a Mexican drug cartel then they are of being wrongly whisked away to a secret Turkish prison and tortured for months with no access to council.
there's zero evidence that over a decade, the government is even remotely engaged in the practice of capturing US citizens and having them "renditioned to another country for torture without consequence".
Is that his boy with him?
I have read a couple opinion articles that say ...
watching what drugs did to other rockers helped straighten him up,
as least this has been rumored,
as was the case for others and he is a national spokesman for DARE
for 15- 20 years I believe.
He's got it right though clean nature's living is the right kind of high ...
that and no fast food unless you shoot it yourself.
Sure, I personally enjoy my privacy.
That freedom can have its consequences.
It's more of a violation of the Fourth in my opinion
I was particularly thinking about due process which is the fifth. my point was, I don't see how if the government detained a US citizen could use the Patriot act as justification, because it would deprive you of due process. Has a federal court ruled on the law's constitutionality in that respect?
And I was thinking of the wire-tapping and such... Yeah I see your Fifth and call you a Fourth.
They've taken up parts of it I believe. If it's not struck down or brought to court then I don't see why they couldn't use it as justification. I could be wrong.
Edit: Wow... That attempt at humour was pretty terrible. My apologies
I seriously wonder if any of the band ever read any of this shit?
If I was in a band and noticed that some/any of my fans were pro-death penalty, Pro-Republican, Pro-guns, and/or pro-Ted Nugent, I'd have to stop and ask myself some serious questions.