Canadian Politics

TalonTedd

Your right on the sunshine list. There are a lot of people getting paid big bucks and abusing their positions. That whole ornge helicopter scandal was ridiculous. The billion dollar E health debacle was criminal and the gas plant fiasco was good money up in smoke. the conservatives are worse in my view. The G7 security costs were a payoff for conservative voters (the police). Reducing the GST was a tax reduction for the wealthy. The TFSA is another tax haven for the rich. They cut programs on science and muzzled the scientists. Its a big mess and it just feels like we are being reduced to nothingness. The whole system is destructive. I guess its pretty obvious my outlook on the future is grim. I'm disillusioned with it all. But I will keep up my fight for social democracy. Fuck it, I'm going to spin some PJ and play with my kids. Later.

In joyous part.

TalonTedd

on a lighter note. I wanted to start a gathering of GTA PJ fans in the summer. I was thinking of getting a few camp sites booked at Albion hills (Bolton), getting the word out on the 10C about a PJ bonfire fan party and seeing if there might be some interest. A TV could be set up and a DJ. I think it would be cool. I personally would like to meet some fans and share some stories. What do you think and have you heard about anything like this before. Just an idea. Maybe it could grow into an annual ritual.

lukin2006

polaris_x said:

we're fucked here ... wynne knew horwarth was never going to support her budget so she put one out there that would make her look bad for turning it down ...

i just wish the ndp would get its act together and put in someone who could truly lead ...

I agree ... It's very possible we could arise June 13th with everything exactly the same as it is now. If that happens then I expect a new NDP leader and a new PC leader by the next election.

TalonTedd

Check out my bonfire poll in "Given to Fly"

lukin2006

TalonTedd said:

Your right on the sunshine list. There are a lot of people getting paid big bucks and abusing their positions. That whole ornge helicopter scandal was ridiculous. The billion dollar E health debacle was criminal and the gas plant fiasco was good money up in smoke.

These are issue created by the liberal government ... and it's shameful that they are getting away with it.

lukin2006

TalonTedd said:

The G7 security costs were a payoff for conservative voters (the police). Reducing the GST was a tax reduction for the wealthy. The TFSA is another tax haven for the rich. They cut programs on science and muzzled the scientists.

In joyous part.

These are federal issue ...

As for the TFSA ... it's been welcomed as one of the most useful financial tools for the middle class by many experts. I really doubt allowing people to stash $5500 in the bank and not paying tax on interest as a tax haven for the rich ... if anything it's more useful for the lower middle class and lower paid workers because these workers often have hardship in which they used to have to draw upon any RRSP savings and then pay tax on it, whereas the TFSA you can draw upon it tax free.

The police and firefighters are provincial liberal supporters ... Hudak has vowed to fix the broken arbitration system, and it's broken.

The video of George Carlin I posted is exactly how I feel. Once again I see no need to vote just for the sake of voting. If I were to vote I'd likely vote Green ...

But as of now we are screwed ...

polaris_x

lukin2006 said:

TalonTedd said:

Your right on the sunshine list. There are a lot of people getting paid big bucks and abusing their positions. That whole ornge helicopter scandal was ridiculous. The billion dollar E health debacle was criminal and the gas plant fiasco was good money up in smoke.

These are issue created by the liberal government ... and it's shameful that they are getting away with it.

they aren't really getting away with it ... first they lost their majority and now they are facing an election ... if there was a good option elsewhere - they would be toast ...

lukin2006

polaris_x said:

lukin2006 said:

TalonTedd said:

Your right on the sunshine list. There are a lot of people getting paid big bucks and abusing their positions. That whole ornge helicopter scandal was ridiculous. The billion dollar E health debacle was criminal and the gas plant fiasco was good money up in smoke.

These are issue created by the liberal government ... and it's shameful that they are getting away with it.

they aren't really getting away with it ... first they lost their majority and now they are facing an election ... if there was a good option elsewhere - they would be toast ...

Maybe ... Or people could send a message and vote an alternative party if available and if none available skip the voting process altogether. All 3 of those parties have a base that will vote for them no matter what. The system is ridiculously busted with no fix in sight.

blueandwhite

I'm not looking forward to the June 12th. The very thought of Hudak winning sends shudders down my spine. His promise to cut 100,000 civil servants from the payroll doesn't exactly inspire confidence considering I would likely be one of those 100,000 unfortunate souls. On the flip side, the Liberals aren't much better with their inability to manage Ontario's finances. It's either more of the same or something worse simply because voters need something new. Talk about picking your poison.

lukin2006

I think it sucks that some people could lose their job ... but in reality we can't keep running 10-12 billion dollar deficits. If any party wins a majority their will be deep cuts ... Hudak is just saying it. Personally I wouldn't vote for any of those 3 myself.

dignin

Time to jump start this thread again. With the current election in Alberta and the coming Federal election we need to talk Canadian politics again.

In my home province there is the possible winds of change blowing through. It's in the air, and I'm digging it.

12 APR POLL: PCS IN 3RD AS WILDROSE AND NDP CONTINUE TO SURGE

http://1abvote.ca/poll-pcs-in-3rd-as-wildrose-and-ndp-continue-to-surge/

dignin

Another loss for the Harper Government. How many is that now?

Supreme Court quashes mandatory minimum sentences for gun crimes

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/supreme-court-quashes-mandatory-minimum-sentences-for-gun-crimes-1.3031847

dignin

http://poll.forumresearch.com/post/275/majority-government-seen-in-wake-of-debate/

NDP take dramatic lead in Alberta

I'm very sceptical, but if the NDP could win...this would have huge implications Canada wide.

dignin

I know I'm talking to myself in here, but I just can't shut up about this.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/elections/alberta-votes/alberta-ndp-poised-for-historic-breakthrough-new-poll-suggests-1.3054823

This is almost unbelievable.

oftenreading

dignin said:

I know I'm talking to myself in here, but I just can't shut up about this.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/elections/alberta-votes/alberta-ndp-poised-for-historic-breakthrough-new-poll-suggests-1.3054823

This is almost unbelievable.

No, you aren't talking to yourself, honest! I'm reading all of them, at least, so you have an audience. Off on my bike to work now but will look at your link later. Have a good day.

dignin

oftenreading said:

dignin said:

I know I'm talking to myself in here, but I just can't shut up about this.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/elections/alberta-votes/alberta-ndp-poised-for-historic-breakthrough-new-poll-suggests-1.3054823

This is almost unbelievable.

No, you aren't talking to yourself, honest! I'm reading all of them, at least, so you have an audience. Off on my bike to work now but will look at your link later. Have a good day.

Thanks often! I know Canada hasn't been as exciting as the states these days (most days), but even the possibility of a change in this province is huge. The fall of a 44 year old political dynasty? And maybe, just maybe .....to the NDP's? I've lived in this province my whole life and never really thought this could possible.

If we dump the PC's I think this could have huge implications to Canada as a whole. Politically, environmentally, financially......

I also have a horse in the race. A good friend is running for the NDP in Lethbridge, her second time running, and it looks like she's a shoe in this time.

callen

Ah your political conversations make ours appear Juvenile. Bravo Canadians.

Drowned Out

Will be interesting to see how this plays out in AB. I don't have much to comment at this point, but I'm following too, Dignin. Good luck to your friend!

oftenreading

dignin said:

oftenreading said:

dignin said:

I know I'm talking to myself in here, but I just can't shut up about this.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/elections/alberta-votes/alberta-ndp-poised-for-historic-breakthrough-new-poll-suggests-1.3054823

This is almost unbelievable.

No, you aren't talking to yourself, honest! I'm reading all of them, at least, so you have an audience. Off on my bike to work now but will look at your link later. Have a good day.

Thanks often! I know Canada hasn't been as exciting as the states these days (most days), but even the possibility of a change in this province is huge. The fall of a 44 year old political dynasty? And maybe, just maybe .....to the NDP's? I've lived in this province my whole life and never really thought this could possible.

If we dump the PC's I think this could have huge implications to Canada as a whole. Politically, environmentally, financially......

I also have a horse in the race. A good friend is running for the NDP in Lethbridge, her second time running, and it looks like she's a shoe in this time.

Good luck to your friend - running in elections is a lot of work, and that's just the start of it. My father was in municipal politics for more than 20 years - people always slam politicians but I don't think most people know just how much work these people put in for not that much money (particularly at the local level).

I'm hoping we can dump the so-called Liberals in BC sometime soon. I must say, though, I'm happy to be living in the only federal riding with an elected Green party member!

oftenreading

dignin - I'm also wondering what accounts for the apparently big difference in voting/polling patterns between Calgary and Edmonton? I've never lived in Alberta so I really have no idea how the areas of the province vary.