^^^^^^ Sustaining a majority for multiple elections surely implies having been put through the wringer a few times no?
He has had one majority government - he has not sustained one thru multiple elections.
I am talking about the election win coming his way in Oct. Two months is nothing to wait. This campaign race is a smoke and mirrors road trip for everyone. No progress or damage can be done in a 3month race. These little side polls and temporary upswings for the opposition are simply that - temporary.
Bullshit. It was past tense. And it was a pretty lame response to begin with.
You sure do show your ire when people point out that you are wrong in thinking that a Majority Consevative government is not going to happen again.
Or is this another one of my crystal ball predictions of a Conservative majority again?
I certainly approve of that, obviously. I would hope that whatever party wins would reintroduce that. I am not living in a fantasy world. I fucking HATE the Harper government, but I have no reason to think that they won't win a majority again, or at least a strong minority. I would prefer anything over Harper being our PM.
Curious..... What has Harper done to your personal quality of life that has made you have such ventriloque HATE at such a young age?
All of these things affect my personal quality of life.
How?
Every single point at the very least negatively affects my state of mind and how I perceive my world around me, when any of my fellow citizens are negatively affected I am also negatively affected, and how I feel about my country is negatively affected. At most it very directly affects me in the obvious ways (salary, benefits, taxes, the air I breath, the food I eat, the information that is available to me, my security, my freedom, how I die, etc etc etc). Do you not see how all of these issues would affect people? If not, FYI, some people take what the government of their country does personally. I'm one of them. You should be too.
I still can't get past the fact that this majority government is so unlike you that it is making you sick.
^^^^^^ Sustaining a majority for multiple elections surely implies having been put through the wringer a few times no?
He has had one majority government - he has not sustained one thru multiple elections.
I am talking about the election win coming his way in Oct. Two months is nothing to wait. This campaign race is a smoke and mirrors road trip for everyone. No progress or damage can be done in a 3month race. These little side polls and temporary upswings for the opposition are simply that - temporary.
Bullshit. It was past tense. And it was a pretty lame response to begin with.
You sure do show your ire when people point out that you are wrong in thinking that a Majority Consevative government is not going to happen again.
Even MS hateful PJsoul concedes.
We'll see. Funny that you think you're calling me out as wrong for a future prediction, while backpedaling on a mistake that you JUST made. Just own it man. It happens. btw - I swear a lot...i read recently that this means I'm hotter, more confident, and less stressed than those who don't . People seem to assume that I'm upset when I swear. Just calling as I see it....and your backpedal was complete and utter bullshit.
^^^^^^ Sustaining a majority for multiple elections surely implies having been put through the wringer a few times no?
He has had one majority government - he has not sustained one thru multiple elections.
I am talking about the election win coming his way in Oct. Two months is nothing to wait. This campaign race is a smoke and mirrors road trip for everyone. No progress or damage can be done in a 3month race. These little side polls and temporary upswings for the opposition are simply that - temporary.
^^^^^^ Sustaining a majority for multiple elections surely implies having been put through the wringer a few times no?
He has had one majority government - he has not sustained one thru multiple elections.
I am talking about the election win coming his way in Oct. Two months is nothing to wait. This campaign race is a smoke and mirrors road trip for everyone. No progress or damage can be done in a 3month race. These little side polls and temporary upswings for the opposition are simply that - temporary.
And it was a pretty lame response to begin with.
This reads like a Donald Trump tweet.
Well explain to me wtf you meant by saying that he'd been put thru the wringer? Were you excusing the list the tyee put together? Were you talking about checks and balances? Don't pout about my prose when you replied with a cliche and didn't bother to elaborate.....like I said....lame.
Or is this another one of my crystal ball predictions of a Conservative majority again?
I certainly approve of that, obviously. I would hope that whatever party wins would reintroduce that. I am not living in a fantasy world. I fucking HATE the Harper government, but I have no reason to think that they won't win a majority again, or at least a strong minority. I would prefer anything over Harper being our PM.
Curious..... What has Harper done to your personal quality of life that has made you have such ventriloque HATE at such a young age?
All of these things affect my personal quality of life.
How?
Every single point at the very least negatively affects my state of mind and how I perceive my world around me, when any of my fellow citizens are negatively affected I am also negatively affected, and how I feel about my country is negatively affected. At most it very directly affects me in the obvious ways (salary, benefits, taxes, the air I breath, the food I eat, the information that is available to me, my security, my freedom, how I die, etc etc etc). Do you not see how all of these issues would affect people? If not, FYI, some people take what the government of their country does personally. I'm one of them. You should be too.
I still can't get past the fact that this majority government is so unlike you that it is making you sick.
Why not? Haven't you ever met someone who is disgusted by the Harper government before? There are millions of us. I don't even understand you right now TBH. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at, highlighting that I hate this government as though it's an opinion that's way out there. What are you trying to prove? It feels kind of like bullshit somehow.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
It feels like a such an uphill batlle when I question people who are against the majority. Does that even make sense to you? Being put through the wringer - they have been put through it for 4yrs and have come out virtually unscathed as it is not hard to see that they will win another majority. They have not lost that much support. The opposition is only loud right now because it is election time. Check and balances - I will say it again, the public has the power to change gov't. They haven't done it yet and they won't this election. In politics if you don't talk in the future prose you are already behind.
I could be wrong on the exact time when CBC or CTV will declare a winner on election night but when they do I will post here. It will be interesting.
Or is this another one of my crystal ball predictions of a Conservative majority again?
I certainly approve of that, obviously. I would hope that whatever party wins would reintroduce that. I am not living in a fantasy world. I fucking HATE the Harper government, but I have no reason to think that they won't win a majority again, or at least a strong minority. I would prefer anything over Harper being our PM.
Curious..... What has Harper done to your personal quality of life that has made you have such ventriloque HATE at such a young age?
All of these things affect my personal quality of life.
How?
Every single point at the very least negatively affects my state of mind and how I perceive my world around me, when any of my fellow citizens are negatively affected I am also negatively affected, and how I feel about my country is negatively affected. At most it very directly affects me in the obvious ways (salary, benefits, taxes, the air I breath, the food I eat, the information that is available to me, my security, my freedom, how I die, etc etc etc). Do you not see how all of these issues would affect people? If not, FYI, some people take what the government of their country does personally. I'm one of them. You should be too.
I still can't get past the fact that this majority government is so unlike you that it is making you sick.
Why not? Haven't you ever met someone who is disgusted by the Harper government before? There are millions of us. I don't even understand you right now TBH. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at, highlighting that I hate this government as though it's an opinion that's way out there. What are you trying to prove? It feels kind of like bullshit somehow.
Millions? What feels like bullshit? You hate the Harper govt I get it. So with the other choices available and if one of the other parties win you will miraculously feel better and all your problems will vanish?
It feels like a such an uphill batlle when I question people who are against the majority. Does that even make sense to you? Being put through the wringer - they have been put through it for 4yrs and have come out virtually unscathed as it is not hard to see that they will win another majority. They have not lost that much support. The opposition is only loud right now because it is election time. Check and balances - I will say it again, the public has the power to change gov't. They haven't done it yet and they won't this election. In politics if you don't talk in the future prose you are already behind.
I could be wrong on the exact time when CBC or CTV will declare a winner on election night but when they do I will post here. It will be interesting.
might want to revisit what I was talking about, then look up the word prose. YOU spoke in the past tense about Harper's sustained, multiple majority governments. So I guess you are behind.
It feels like a such an uphill batlle when I question people who are against the majority. Does that even make sense to you? Being put through the wringer - they have been put through it for 4yrs and have come out virtually unscathed as it is not hard to see that they will win another majority. They have not lost that much support. The opposition is only loud right now because it is election time. Check and balances - I will say it again, the public has the power to change gov't. They haven't done it yet and they won't this election. In politics if you don't talk in the future prose you are already behind.
I could be wrong on the exact time when CBC or CTV will declare a winner on election night but when they do I will post here. It will be interesting.
No, I have no idea what you're talking about, actually. You asked me a question, and I gave you an incredibly thorough and clear and logical answer, so I don't know what you found taxing about that. And I suppose I do know why you keep saying "against the majority".... you must quoting some Conservative propaganda?? FYI, the Conservatives hold a "majority" government with less than 40% of Canadians voting for them. So it's you who is against the majority I guess, not me. But I say that in jest, because, despite what you appear to think, being against the majority is usually a positive, not a negative, lol.
At any rate, I already said that I don't think anyone else can win as long as the left is split (I mean, miracles do happen, but chances are...), and I don't think many others would disagree with me, so you're preaching to the choir a bit. Of course I HOPE the NDP or the Libs win, but I am realistic about it. There are a lot of idiots out there voting Conservative.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
It feels like a such an uphill batlle when I question people who are against the majority. Does that even make sense to you? Being put through the wringer - they have been put through it for 4yrs and have come out virtually unscathed as it is not hard to see that they will win another majority. They have not lost that much support. The opposition is only loud right now because it is election time. Check and balances - I will say it again, the public has the power to change gov't. They haven't done it yet and they won't this election. In politics if you don't talk in the future prose you are already behind.
I could be wrong on the exact time when CBC or CTV will declare a winner on election night but when they do I will post here. It will be interesting.
might want to revisit what I was talking about, then look up the word prose. YOU spoke in the past tense about Harper's sustained, multiple majority governments. So I guess you are behind.
You are right. I typed in the past tense while making my pointed. I was too lazy to remember what the exacting definition of prose was. and for that I apologize humbly and admit defeated (or is it defeat?), can't remember
As for coming back on here for atodasos I would not. I would truly want to hear the opinions of the liberals and ndpers after election night is all.
I predict a minority government. That's what almost every poll so far predicts. The particulars of who will form that government are far from clear. Anyone saying they know more than that is talking out of their ass, it's far to early to tell.
I predict a minority government. That's what almost every poll so far predicts. The particulars of who will form that government are far from clear. Anyone saying they know more than that is talking out of their ass, it's far to early to tell.
You base your thoughts from meaningless early polls? Even you admit that who will form the next govt are far from clear. So how are you basing your prediction of a minority govt?, surely not from a poll you read about in the news....
Me labelling myself a "libertarian" was sarcastic, perhaps that did not come across in the post. One thing those,questionnaire results did tell me is what I always thought, I have no political,ideology that aligns with any one party. I am neither "right" nor "left" nor in the middle.
This is why I don't tell people how I vote. It does not define who I am, it is just an OPINION on who I think will best represent me and not waste all my tax dollars.
All of you anti-Harper people are not wrong, you are entitled to your opinion. That is the beauty of DEMOCRACY. My opinion may differ, it may not. But zi will base my decision on FACTS, not rhetoric from a PJ Forum like "he is a liar". He is a politician, they are all liars lol
It's always the attempted cover-up that gets them. Are we really supposed to believe that Novak didn't look at an email sent to him by his boss? And also that he dropped out of a conference call just when the check was discussed? How convenient. How stupid do they think we are? This whole thing stinks.
Wright also testified that Novak did not take part in the conference call in March 2013 in which he discussed personally paying back Duffy's controversial expenses.
"Ray wasn't on the call. He may have dropped into the office for part of it. He was not on the call," Wright said.
"I think I wanted him on the call but he didn't participate," Wright said.
One email presented in court, dated March 22, 2013, said Novak would be part of a conference call with Wright, Duffy's then-lawyer Janice Payne, and Perrin.
Wright told court on Tuesday Novak had "popped in and out."
In another email, on March 23, Wright wrote to Novak and Perrin saying, "I will send my cheque on Monday."
A Conservative spokesman has said Novak was on the first part of that conference call, but didn't hear discussion of Wright's cheque. He also said that Novak never opened the email from Wright in which Wright says he will send the cheque.
But Perrin said, according to the transcript read out in court, that he believed Novak was in the room at the time of that conference call.
"My testimony is that he was in the meeting and you have a follow-up email to that meeting to Ray Novak where Nigel Wright says, 'I will send my cheque on Monday," Perrin said in the statement.
"The people that I, from my own personal knowledge, knew about this was obviously Nigel Wright, myself, Ray Novak and David van Hemmen, Nigel's assistant." Perrin is expected to testify at a later date.
Me labelling myself a "libertarian" was sarcastic, perhaps that did not come across in the post. One thing those,questionnaire results did tell me is what I always thought, I have no political,ideology that aligns with any one party. I am neither "right" nor "left" nor in the middle.
This is why I don't tell people how I vote. It does not define who I am, it is just an OPINION on who I think will best represent me and not waste all my tax dollars.
All of you anti-Harper people are not wrong, you are entitled to your opinion. That is the beauty of DEMOCRACY. My opinion may differ, it may not. But zi will base my decision on FACTS, not rhetoric from a PJ Forum like "he is a liar". He is a politician, they are all liars lol
It's our job to throw them out when they are caught lying.
Me labelling myself a "libertarian" was sarcastic, perhaps that did not come across in the post. One thing those,questionnaire results did tell me is what I always thought, I have no political,ideology that aligns with any one party. I am neither "right" nor "left" nor in the middle.
This is why I don't tell people how I vote. It does not define who I am, it is just an OPINION on who I think will best represent me and not waste all my tax dollars.
All of you anti-Harper people are not wrong, you are entitled to your opinion. That is the beauty of DEMOCRACY. My opinion may differ, it may not. But zi will base my decision on FACTS, not rhetoric from a PJ Forum like "he is a liar". He is a politician, they are all liars lol
True, but some are bigger liars than others. At any rate, him being a liar is pretty far down on the list of what's wrong with him, lol.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
The polls go up, the polls go down. What has remained constant is the close contest between all three parties, with the New Democrats leading most of the time, the Conservatives usually second, and the Liberals in third. But the polls also suggest that some potentially more enduring trends are unfolding at the regional level.
The latest poll added to the CBC Poll Tracker, an Abacus Data survey published Tuesday and placing the NDP in the lead nationally with 35 per cent, followed by the Conservatives at 29 per cent and the Liberals at 26 per cent, has widened the advantage the New Democrats have over the other parties.
Public feelings about the leaders of Canada’s three main political parties has been shifting.
Negative feelings about Stephen Harper are on the rise. Mr. Harper’s best ratings in the last 18 months were last December, when 34% were positive and 38% were negative towards the Conservative leader. Since then, his negatives are up 9 points to 47%, the highest level since March 2014.
Tom Mulcair’s ratings had been stable until the spring of this year. Since May, his positives have risen from 27% to 41% while his negatives have stayed low.
For Justin Trudeau, the news is also good. His positives had been drifting down over several months, but have spiked back upwards by 5 points this month to 35%.
Elizabeth May’s ratings have increased slightly from last month from 17% positive to 25% positive.
Public feelings about the leaders of Canada’s three main political parties has been shifting.
Negative feelings about Stephen Harper are on the rise. Mr. Harper’s best ratings in the last 18 months were last December, when 34% were positive and 38% were negative towards the Conservative leader. Since then, his negatives are up 9 points to 47%, the highest level since March 2014.
Tom Mulcair’s ratings had been stable until the spring of this year. Since May, his positives have risen from 27% to 41% while his negatives have stayed low.
For Justin Trudeau, the news is also good. His positives had been drifting down over several months, but have spiked back upwards by 5 points this month to 35%.
Elizabeth May’s ratings have increased slightly from last month from 17% positive to 25% positive.
All these stats and percentages are meaningless and you sound like the Charlie brown teacher when you spew this stuff. It means nothing. Positives have spiked, increased? What the fuck does that even mean?
Ever since polls showed that the NDP were going to win comfortably right up until polls opened in the last BC provincial election, and then the Libs won with a comfortable lead (even though the rotten Christy Clark was leading them), I don't trust polls.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Public feelings about the leaders of Canada’s three main political parties has been shifting.
Negative feelings about Stephen Harper are on the rise. Mr. Harper’s best ratings in the last 18 months were last December, when 34% were positive and 38% were negative towards the Conservative leader. Since then, his negatives are up 9 points to 47%, the highest level since March 2014.
Tom Mulcair’s ratings had been stable until the spring of this year. Since May, his positives have risen from 27% to 41% while his negatives have stayed low.
For Justin Trudeau, the news is also good. His positives had been drifting down over several months, but have spiked back upwards by 5 points this month to 35%.
Elizabeth May’s ratings have increased slightly from last month from 17% positive to 25% positive.
All these stats and percentages are meaningless and you sound like the Charlie brown teacher when you spew this stuff. It means nothing. Positives have spiked, increased? What the fuck does that even mean?
Haha. Things not going your way? Someone sounds a little butthurt.
Ever since polls showed that the NDP were going to win comfortably right up until polls opened in the last BC provincial election, and then the Libs won with a comfortable lead (even though the rotten Christy Clark was leading them), I don't trust polls.
You have good reason to be skeptical. The same thing happened here in Alberta when we put Redford in power. But this is all we have to go on, unlike some posters here who seem to use a "crystal ball" in their magical predictions. And sometimes the polls are very right.....like in the last Alberta election.
The fact is the political parties take polls very seriously, because more often then not they are right.
Andrew Coyne: Sympathy for Harper — imagine learning everyone you trusted lied to you
I am beginning to think we have done Stephen Harper a disservice. No, I’m sure we have. In fact, I think we — and by we I mean the media, me included — have been grossly unfair to him, and never more so than in the matter of Mike Duffy’s expenses.
You will be familiar with the picture we have created of him: suspicious, paranoid, controlling, a leader who trusts no one, leaves nothing to others, insists on taking a hand in even the smallest matter. Well, you’d be suspicious, paranoid and controlling, too, if everyone around you was lying to you all the time.
Consider what we have learned about the Duffy affair. More to the point, consider what he has learned. Wholly without his knowledge, several of his closest advisers, including his chief of staff, his principal secretary, and his legal counsel, together with his Senate house leader, the chairman of the Conservative party fundraising arm and the party lawyer, conspired over a period of several months to pay Duffy for his improperly claimed living expenses, then to pretend to the public that he had repaid them out of his own pocket, then to attempt to block, shut down, or rewrite a confidential audit, then finally to rewrite a Senate committee report so as to absolve Duffy of any fault.
But it did not end there. Not content with deceiving the prime minister about this complex plan, with the enormous risks — legal, political, personal — it entailed, they stood by and let him make a series of (unwittingly!) false statements to Parliament and the public about it: not only that Duffy had paid his own expenses, but when it emerged that he had not, that the whole scheme had been the work of one man, Nigel Wright. Not only did he know nothing of it, the prime minister was allowed to say on multiple occasions — indeed, he would have put a stop to it had he known — but neither did anyone else.
Imagine the sense of betrayal he must have felt — the vertigo, the nausea — as it slowly dawned on him that everything he had been led to believe about the whole affair was a lie: that in fact, everyone knew. Everyone, that is, but him. Imagine the humiliation, to have been played for a patsy in this way — him, Stephen Harper, Prime Minister of Canada — and what is more, for the whole world to know it. He is a proud man, but not immune to feelings of self-doubt. Would anyone respect him now? Could he carry on as leader, if he were not master even of his own office?
It must have felt like the room was spinning, like the earth was opening up in front of him. Inevitably, there must have been a certain amount of self-recrimination. How could he have been so blind? Why had he not suspected? Little things that seemed innocent before — the way everyone suddenly shut up when he entered the room, that time Nigel borrowed his Blackberry without asking — must have suddenly taken on a darker hue.
And then, the fears: If he could have been kept in the dark about this, he must have wondered, if the people he trusted most could have conspired in such a scheme, so repugnant to him in every respect, and not only done so but lied about it to his face, and gone on lying even after the scheme had been exposed — for he must surely have made the most searching inquiries after the story first broke — well, what else could they have been up to all these years? What else did he know nothing about? What other lies had they told him? These things don’t usually happen just once, after all. There’s usually a pattern.
And yet, this good man, deceived, humiliated, betrayed on all sides, found it in his heart to forgive them. You or I, had we found ourselves in the same position, might have taken the most foul sort of revenge: fired the lot, paraded them in front of the media, forced them to answer for what they had done. But that is not, we can see now, Harper’s way: this supposedly ruthless autocrat, this cold, vindictive brute of caricature, responded to this monumental breach of trust with comprehensive mercy. No one was fired, though some were allowed to leave. Some are even travelling with him on his campaign. He was even going to forgive Wright, and would have, had it tested better.
But now the braying jackals in the press gallery are demanding he fire Ray Novak, Wright’s replacement as chief of staff, after evidence was presented at Duffy’s trial that he, too, knew that Wright had paid off Duffy, contrary to every statement he or Harper or anyone in his office had made until, well, this very week. In the name of all that’s decent: can’t they at least let the man grieve a little? For God’s sake, this is Ray Novak we’re talking about, the closest of his closest advisers, the one commonly described as being “like a son” to him — his eyes and ears, the guy he depended on to tell him things. And now he finds out that even Novak was lying to him? The press complain Harper won’t answer their questions. Frankly, I’m amazed he can even stand upright.
Oh, we have misjudged him, all right. More than that, we have mistreated him. After what Harper has gone through these last two years, he deserves not our condemnation, but our deepest sympathy.
Public feelings about the leaders of Canada’s three main political parties has been shifting.
Negative feelings about Stephen Harper are on the rise. Mr. Harper’s best ratings in the last 18 months were last December, when 34% were positive and 38% were negative towards the Conservative leader. Since then, his negatives are up 9 points to 47%, the highest level since March 2014.
Tom Mulcair’s ratings had been stable until the spring of this year. Since May, his positives have risen from 27% to 41% while his negatives have stayed low.
For Justin Trudeau, the news is also good. His positives had been drifting down over several months, but have spiked back upwards by 5 points this month to 35%.
Elizabeth May’s ratings have increased slightly from last month from 17% positive to 25% positive.
All these stats and percentages are meaningless and you sound like the Charlie brown teacher when you spew this stuff. It means nothing. Positives have spiked, increased? What the fuck does that even mean?
Haha. Things not going your way? Someone sounds a little butthurt.
What? All I am saying is that polls and percentages are useless and you sound like the Charlie brown teacher when you repeat that crap.
Your copied paste wreaks of unprofessional junior journalism. Speak your mind about this election campaign not what others may tell you. Polls, ha Dumb
Public feelings about the leaders of Canada’s three main political parties has been shifting.
Negative feelings about Stephen Harper are on the rise. Mr. Harper’s best ratings in the last 18 months were last December, when 34% were positive and 38% were negative towards the Conservative leader. Since then, his negatives are up 9 points to 47%, the highest level since March 2014.
Tom Mulcair’s ratings had been stable until the spring of this year. Since May, his positives have risen from 27% to 41% while his negatives have stayed low.
For Justin Trudeau, the news is also good. His positives had been drifting down over several months, but have spiked back upwards by 5 points this month to 35%.
Elizabeth May’s ratings have increased slightly from last month from 17% positive to 25% positive.
All these stats and percentages are meaningless and you sound like the Charlie brown teacher when you spew this stuff. It means nothing. Positives have spiked, increased? What the fuck does that even mean?
Haha. Things not going your way? Someone sounds a little butthurt.
What? All I am saying is that polls and percentages are useless and you sound like the Charlie brown teacher when you repeat that crap.
Your copied paste wreaks of unprofessional junior journalism. Speak your mind about this election campaign not what others may tell you. Polls, ha Dumb
I'm glad to know I'm also a junior journalist! I had know idea I was even in the profession. I must lead a busy life...you know....trying to juggle my post count and working on being a junior journalist!
Haha. Take it easy fan. It's only a fanclub website. You may need to take some time off from trolling here to get a little perspective. But do whatever makes you happy!
Public feelings about the leaders of Canada’s three main political parties has been shifting.
Negative feelings about Stephen Harper are on the rise. Mr. Harper’s best ratings in the last 18 months were last December, when 34% were positive and 38% were negative towards the Conservative leader. Since then, his negatives are up 9 points to 47%, the highest level since March 2014.
Tom Mulcair’s ratings had been stable until the spring of this year. Since May, his positives have risen from 27% to 41% while his negatives have stayed low.
For Justin Trudeau, the news is also good. His positives had been drifting down over several months, but have spiked back upwards by 5 points this month to 35%.
Elizabeth May’s ratings have increased slightly from last month from 17% positive to 25% positive.
All these stats and percentages are meaningless and you sound like the Charlie brown teacher when you spew this stuff. It means nothing. Positives have spiked, increased? What the fuck does that even mean?
Haha. Things not going your way? Someone sounds a little butthurt.
What? All I am saying is that polls and percentages are useless and you sound like the Charlie brown teacher when you repeat that crap.
Your copied paste wreaks of unprofessional junior journalism. Speak your mind about this election campaign not what others may tell you. Polls, ha Dumb
I'm glad to know I'm also a junior journalist! I had know idea I was even in the profession. I must lead a busy life...you know....trying to juggle my post count and working on being a junior journalist!
Haha. Take it easy fan. It's only a fanclub website. You may need to take some time off from trolling here to get a little perspective. But do whatever makes you happy!
All you did was post an article (in full may I add) You posted no thoughts of your own. Trolling? Be Canadian and stop messin eh.
Some lie more than others... Actually, no matter who the politicians are, the longer they are in power, the more corrupt they become. It is human nature. Ralph Klein thought he could do no wrong. Papa Trudeau and Chrétien left Ottawa amidst swirling rumours of boondoggles and cronyism. Mulroney, same thing... And the list goes on and on and on. Canadians rewrite history by leaving people in power too long, over and over and over.
We have 35 (40?) million people and carry 2% of the worlds debt. I am looking for leadership to get government spending under control. Before we end up like Ontario, a province carrying 12 Billion in debt. That is insane. We are asking our children's grandchildren to pay for our "lifestyle". Why don't we get off our asses and work for it ourselves?
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Even MS hateful PJsoul concedes.
btw - I swear a lot...i read recently that this means I'm hotter, more confident, and less stressed than those who don't
Don't pout about my prose when you replied with a cliche and didn't bother to elaborate.....like I said....lame.
Being put through the wringer - they have been put through it for 4yrs and have come out virtually unscathed as it is not hard to see that they will win another majority. They have not lost that much support. The opposition is only loud right now because it is election time.
Check and balances - I will say it again, the public has the power to change gov't. They haven't done it yet and they won't this election.
In politics if you don't talk in the future prose you are already behind.
I could be wrong on the exact time when CBC or CTV will declare a winner on election night but when they do I will post here.
It will be interesting.
What feels like bullshit?
You hate the Harper govt I get it. So with the other choices available and if one of the other parties win you will miraculously feel better and all your problems will vanish?
If it makes you feel good to say atodaso, go for it. You're not exactly going out on a limb with your bold predictions.
might want to revisit what I was talking about, then look up the word prose.
YOU spoke in the past tense about Harper's sustained, multiple majority governments. So I guess you are behind.
And I suppose I do know why you keep saying "against the majority".... you must quoting some Conservative propaganda?? FYI, the Conservatives hold a "majority" government with less than 40% of Canadians voting for them. So it's you who is against the majority I guess, not me.
At any rate, I already said that I don't think anyone else can win as long as the left is split (I mean, miracles do happen, but chances are...), and I don't think many others would disagree with me, so you're preaching to the choir a bit. Of course I HOPE the NDP or the Libs win, but I am realistic about it. There are a lot of idiots out there voting Conservative.
I was too lazy to remember what the exacting definition of prose was.
and for that I apologize humbly and admit defeated (or is it defeat?), can't remember
As for coming back on here for atodasos I would not.
I would truly want to hear the opinions of the liberals and ndpers after election night is all.
Even you admit that who will form the next govt are far from clear.
So how are you basing your prediction of a minority govt?, surely not from a poll you read about in the news....
http://globalnews.ca/news/2171339/reporters-heckled-by-conservative-supporters-for-questions-about-duffy/?hootPostID=2037e242fe557b59037b9302a42a86fa
One thing those,questionnaire results did tell me is what I always thought, I have no political,ideology that aligns with any one party. I am neither "right" nor "left" nor in the middle.
This is why I don't tell people how I vote. It does not define who I am, it is just an OPINION on who I think will best represent me and not waste all my tax dollars.
All of you anti-Harper people are not wrong, you are entitled to your opinion. That is the beauty of DEMOCRACY. My opinion may differ, it may not. But zi will base my decision on FACTS, not rhetoric from a PJ Forum like "he is a liar". He is a politician, they are all liars lol
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mike-duffy-trial-nigel-wright-testimony-day-5-1.3194569
Wright also testified that Novak did not take part in the conference call in March 2013 in which he discussed personally paying back Duffy's controversial expenses.
"Ray wasn't on the call. He may have dropped into the office for part of it. He was not on the call," Wright said.
"I think I wanted him on the call but he didn't participate," Wright said.
One email presented in court, dated March 22, 2013, said Novak would be part of a conference call with Wright, Duffy's then-lawyer Janice Payne, and Perrin.
Wright told court on Tuesday Novak had "popped in and out."
In another email, on March 23, Wright wrote to Novak and Perrin saying, "I will send my cheque on Monday."
A Conservative spokesman has said Novak was on the first part of that conference call, but didn't hear discussion of Wright's cheque. He also said that Novak never opened the email from Wright in which Wright says he will send the cheque.
But Perrin said, according to the transcript read out in court, that he believed Novak was in the room at the time of that conference call.
"My testimony is that he was in the meeting and you have a follow-up email to that meeting to Ray Novak where Nigel Wright says, 'I will send my cheque on Monday," Perrin said in the statement.
"The people that I, from my own personal knowledge, knew about this was obviously Nigel Wright, myself, Ray Novak and David van Hemmen, Nigel's assistant." Perrin is expected to testify at a later date.
At any rate, him being a liar is pretty far down on the list of what's wrong with him, lol.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-grenier-polltracker-aug19-1.3195182
The polls go up, the polls go down. What has remained constant is the close contest between all three parties, with the New Democrats leading most of the time, the Conservatives usually second, and the Liberals in third. But the polls also suggest that some potentially more enduring trends are unfolding at the regional level.
The latest poll added to the CBC Poll Tracker, an Abacus Data survey published Tuesday and placing the NDP in the lead nationally with 35 per cent, followed by the Conservatives at 29 per cent and the Liberals at 26 per cent, has widened the advantage the New Democrats have over the other parties.
Public feelings about the leaders of Canada’s three main political parties has been shifting.
Negative feelings about Stephen Harper are on the rise. Mr. Harper’s best ratings in the last 18 months were last December, when 34% were positive and 38% were negative towards the Conservative leader. Since then, his negatives are up 9 points to 47%, the highest level since March 2014.
Tom Mulcair’s ratings had been stable until the spring of this year. Since May, his positives have risen from 27% to 41% while his negatives have stayed low.
For Justin Trudeau, the news is also good. His positives had been drifting down over several months, but have spiked back upwards by 5 points this month to 35%.
Elizabeth May’s ratings have increased slightly from last month from 17% positive to 25% positive.
It means nothing.
Positives have spiked, increased? What the fuck does that even mean?
The fact is the political parties take polls very seriously, because more often then not they are right.
http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/andrew-coyne-oh-harper-forgive-us-we-misjudged-you-over-the-duffy-affair
Andrew Coyne: Sympathy for Harper — imagine learning everyone you trusted lied to you
I am beginning to think we have done Stephen Harper a disservice. No, I’m sure we have. In fact, I think we — and by we I mean the media, me included — have been grossly unfair to him, and never more so than in the matter of Mike Duffy’s expenses.
You will be familiar with the picture we have created of him: suspicious, paranoid, controlling, a leader who trusts no one, leaves nothing to others, insists on taking a hand in even the smallest matter. Well, you’d be suspicious, paranoid and controlling, too, if everyone around you was lying to you all the time.
Consider what we have learned about the Duffy affair. More to the point, consider what he has learned. Wholly without his knowledge, several of his closest advisers, including his chief of staff, his principal secretary, and his legal counsel, together with his Senate house leader, the chairman of the Conservative party fundraising arm and the party lawyer, conspired over a period of several months to pay Duffy for his improperly claimed living expenses, then to pretend to the public that he had repaid them out of his own pocket, then to attempt to block, shut down, or rewrite a confidential audit, then finally to rewrite a Senate committee report so as to absolve Duffy of any fault.
But it did not end there. Not content with deceiving the prime minister about this complex plan, with the enormous risks — legal, political, personal — it entailed, they stood by and let him make a series of (unwittingly!) false statements to Parliament and the public about it: not only that Duffy had paid his own expenses, but when it emerged that he had not, that the whole scheme had been the work of one man, Nigel Wright. Not only did he know nothing of it, the prime minister was allowed to say on multiple occasions — indeed, he would have put a stop to it had he known — but neither did anyone else.
Imagine the sense of betrayal he must have felt — the vertigo, the nausea — as it slowly dawned on him that everything he had been led to believe about the whole affair was a lie: that in fact, everyone knew. Everyone, that is, but him. Imagine the humiliation, to have been played for a patsy in this way — him, Stephen Harper, Prime Minister of Canada — and what is more, for the whole world to know it. He is a proud man, but not immune to feelings of self-doubt. Would anyone respect him now? Could he carry on as leader, if he were not master even of his own office?
It must have felt like the room was spinning, like the earth was opening up in front of him. Inevitably, there must have been a certain amount of self-recrimination. How could he have been so blind? Why had he not suspected? Little things that seemed innocent before — the way everyone suddenly shut up when he entered the room, that time Nigel borrowed his Blackberry without asking — must have suddenly taken on a darker hue.
And then, the fears: If he could have been kept in the dark about this, he must have wondered, if the people he trusted most could have conspired in such a scheme, so repugnant to him in every respect, and not only done so but lied about it to his face, and gone on lying even after the scheme had been exposed — for he must surely have made the most searching inquiries after the story first broke — well, what else could they have been up to all these years? What else did he know nothing about? What other lies had they told him? These things don’t usually happen just once, after all. There’s usually a pattern.
And yet, this good man, deceived, humiliated, betrayed on all sides, found it in his heart to forgive them. You or I, had we found ourselves in the same position, might have taken the most foul sort of revenge: fired the lot, paraded them in front of the media, forced them to answer for what they had done. But that is not, we can see now, Harper’s way: this supposedly ruthless autocrat, this cold, vindictive brute of caricature, responded to this monumental breach of trust with comprehensive mercy. No one was fired, though some were allowed to leave. Some are even travelling with him on his campaign. He was even going to forgive Wright, and would have, had it tested better.
But now the braying jackals in the press gallery are demanding he fire Ray Novak, Wright’s replacement as chief of staff, after evidence was presented at Duffy’s trial that he, too, knew that Wright had paid off Duffy, contrary to every statement he or Harper or anyone in his office had made until, well, this very week. In the name of all that’s decent: can’t they at least let the man grieve a little? For God’s sake, this is Ray Novak we’re talking about, the closest of his closest advisers, the one commonly described as being “like a son” to him — his eyes and ears, the guy he depended on to tell him things. And now he finds out that even Novak was lying to him? The press complain Harper won’t answer their questions. Frankly, I’m amazed he can even stand upright.
Oh, we have misjudged him, all right. More than that, we have mistreated him. After what Harper has gone through these last two years, he deserves not our condemnation, but our deepest sympathy.
All I am saying is that polls and percentages are useless and you sound like the Charlie brown teacher when you repeat that crap.
Your copied paste wreaks of unprofessional junior journalism.
Speak your mind about this election campaign not what others may tell you.
Polls, ha
Dumb
Haha. Take it easy fan. It's only a fanclub website. You may need to take some time off from trolling here to get a little perspective. But do whatever makes you happy!
You posted no thoughts of your own.
Trolling?
Be Canadian and stop messin eh.
It is human nature. Ralph Klein thought he could do no wrong. Papa Trudeau and Chrétien left Ottawa amidst swirling rumours of boondoggles and cronyism.
Mulroney, same thing... And the list goes on and on and on.
Canadians rewrite history by leaving people in power too long, over and over and over.
We have 35 (40?) million people and carry 2% of the worlds debt. I am looking for leadership to get government spending under control.
Before we end up like Ontario, a province carrying 12 Billion in debt. That is insane.
We are asking our children's grandchildren to pay for our "lifestyle". Why don't we get off our asses and work for it ourselves?