It`s a huge campaign promise to make. I highly doubt it is all ``smoke and mirrors``
Through all of his campaign promise and media interviews no timeline is given as to when this will come into effect.
It's early days - they need to hold some info back so they can release it as and when it best suits. I'm not knocking the NDP for that - all the parties do that and always will - they will have a long campaign to get through and need to keep up excitement throughout somehow.
Excitement? This is not a PJ special announcement. This is a prospective leader promising a major change in our country. Announcing a timeline would in no way affect them. If anything it would put pressure on other parties to challenge them to do the same. Don't fuck with our heads NDP - show us more.
I think the child care benefit is really just a bribe. Of course a little extra money helps.... but it ultimately solves absolutely nothing. It doesn't even come close to allowing parents to have affordable child care. It's just not enough to make a difference when day care cost up to $2000 a MONTH for two young children. So what does the child care benefit provide now? Like $100 a month per child? But the pittance that you are happy to get might make you (the universal you - I don't know who you vote for personally PJfan) think you ought to give your vote to the Conservatives, even though the child care system is still horrible for everyone across Canada (beside Quebec, who cost way more to bribe, apparently). I think a common thought among Canadians (and the British) is "well, it could be worse". But that is a terrible philosophy to ride on when it comes to voting for the federal government.
Any gov't that gets in though will not be raising the Universal and CCTB by any significant amount anyways. So whether it is pittance or a payday for some the amount will still be given not taken away. Sometimes parents like the feeling of knowing that "a winter coat this year for my child/ren will be taken care of" vice I am already living to paycheque to paycheque and wish I had just an extra $100 or so this month.
There is no party currently that will lower daycare costs if elected but all will provide cash benefits to parents.
Oh, no, I don't mean to say that any other party would suddenly do so much better. I just meant that I think it is what the Conservatives are doing. Never said that another wouldn't also do it (perhaps in different ways). Though in don't know what the other parties would really do in any case if they actually took over. It's been too long under the same party to know that. But let's be clear: I don't really trust any political party. I just agree much more with the philosophies of some over others (well, over one other. For the most part it's not so much about what I like, but what I really hate... which is depressing, but I can't bring myself to any other choice. But still, there a few things 8 like about other parties. They'd probably legalize weed. And would actually do something about the euthanasia decision. And allow scientists to do their jobs more openly. And the PM would probably lower himself enough to actually speak to the citizens of Canada once in a while, ffs).
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Wasn't there a decision made on Euthanasia recently? Perhaps that was just the Supreme Court... Appointed judges who make laws for us because the elected officials don't have the balls
Edit: passive euthanasia (withholding or withdrawing of life-preserving procedures including water and food) and active euthanasia (intentionally killing a person to relieve pain). Whereas passive euthanasia is legal in Canada, active euthanasia is illegal and is considered to be murder.
Wasn't there a decision made on Euthanasia recently? Perhaps that was just the Supreme Court... Appointed judges who make laws for us because the elected officials don't have the balls
Edit: passive euthanasia (withholding or withdrawing of life-preserving procedures including water and food) and active euthanasia (intentionally killing a person to relieve pain). Whereas passive euthanasia is legal in Canada, active euthanasia is illegal and is considered to be murder.
Actually, your original post was more correct than your edit. The ban on physician-assisted suicide was struck down but held for one year in order to give time for legislation to be drafted that codifies allowed practices (or not). That would be closer to "active euthanasia" than passive euthanasia in your post, although not identical as it would permit physicians to, for instance, prescribe a lethal dose of medication that the patient would take themselves. This will only apply to adults who are mentally competent to make the decision themselves (i.e. it can't be made by a substitute decision maker for an incompetent person) and the individual must have a condition that is physically or psychologically intolerable, but does not need to be immediately terminal.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Watched "The Four Horsemen" documentary last night, certainly gave me a lot to think about. I'm still trying to process it all, as we do not have the (quite) same central bank situation as the USA, however we are all involved in the FIAT monetary system. It certainly was food for thought, especially with some of the respected people who were commenting in the documentary. Is it the system? If it is, you can never blame the system because humans created it. The fascinating part to me is Classical Economics vs. Neoclassical Economics. Taxing the RESOURCES instead of sales tax/income tax. I will admit, it is becoming apparent trickle down economics is not working. The debt load is becoming unmanageable. I never would have thought/known US aid would have caused more problems in foreign countries than helped.
I can honestly say . . . Perhaps, Keynesian economics has it all wrong, and a return to classical economics can save the west...
Watched "The Four Horsemen" documentary last night, certainly gave me a lot to think about. I'm still trying to process it all, as we do not have the (quite) same central bank situation as the USA, however we are all involved in the FIAT monetary system. It certainly was food for thought, especially with some of the respected people who were commenting in the documentary. Is it the system? If it is, you can never blame the system because humans created it. The fascinating part to me is Classical Economics vs. Neoclassical Economics. Taxing the RESOURCES instead of sales tax/income tax. I will admit, it is becoming apparent trickle down economics is not working. The debt load is becoming unmanageable. I never would have thought/known US aid would have caused more problems in foreign countries than helped.
I can honestly say . . . Perhaps, Keynesian economics has it all wrong, and a return to classical economics can save the west...
That kind of talk would be blasphemy in most circles down here! You would be branded a socialist, which is definitely a dirty word.
But when you bail out corporations (the investment bankers) because they are "too big to fail" is that not Socialism for the elite? I am starting to think the US is more socialist than Canada
Exactly, Ford fixed their problem before the crisis, GM and Chrysler needed bailout money. Same argument was used. The government BORROWS money from the banks, GIVES it to the corporations. Sounds socialist to me. Wouldn't a true capitalist have said "you fucked up, fix it yourself" Instead, they fed some bullshit to the public about how all their jobs would be lost and the economy would never recover, CHAOS. Similar to the scare tactics used in the war on terror.
So the taxpayer is on the hook for bailing out the companies who should have been allowed to fail.
We all need to collectively pull our heads out of our asses. If we don't, things will get ugly.
But when you bail out corporations (the investment bankers) because they are "too big to fail" is that not Socialism for the elite? I am starting to think the US is more socialist than Canada
Bingo! Except we call it crony capitalism bbecause even that is better than the S word.
Journalists Are Banned from Stephen Harper's Events and It’s Stupid Nonsense
It's been a problem since time immemorial. Whether it's editing Joseph Stalin's executed allies out of his photos or Barack Obama cherry-picking friendly media to roll out carefully packaged news stories, leaders always want to control the message.
But most leaders recognize that there's a balance between message-strangling and the public's right to know.
Journalists Are Banned from Stephen Harper's Events and It’s Stupid Nonsense
It's been a problem since time immemorial. Whether it's editing Joseph Stalin's executed allies out of his photos or Barack Obama cherry-picking friendly media to roll out carefully packaged news stories, leaders always want to control the message.
But most leaders recognize that there's a balance between message-strangling and the public's right to know.
Not Stephen Harper, apparently. Not anymore.
I think having a majority government for so long they have pretty much earned the right to say that either you are in the know or you or not media be damned.
So Harper drops the writ. Has there ever been a federal election more uninspiring or predictable than this? Trudeau and Harper with (lame) mudslinging ads back and forth and Mulcair with his boring rhetoric about how he is the one who will create jobs because that is the number one issue. How is that going to go over with all of those environmentalists you pander to Mulcair? Jobs = industry and the unions who support you, the same union workers that the environmental lobbyists would like to see working at a hotel in Canmore. Or May coming out screaming some nonsense of not just being a "one issue party".
11 weeks of the news full of lame sound bites. Can't wait.
Harper wins Mulcair is the official opposition Trudeau loses his own seat
Do we not have any intelligent leaders who can inspire the Canadian public anymore? (Or the U.S. For that matter?) All the leaders seem like buffoons to me. It is sad because we are such a great country with great people, yet we have political party leaders with the personality of wet noodle. Ugh.. Can't wait for Oct 19th. I know who I am voting for and I won't be listening to all this BS
So Harper drops the writ. Has there ever been a federal election more uninspiring or predictable than this? Trudeau and Harper with (lame) mudslinging ads back and forth and Mulcair with his boring rhetoric about how he is the one who will create jobs because that is the number one issue. How is that going to go over with all of those environmentalists you pander to Mulcair? Jobs = industry and the unions who support you, the same union workers that the environmental lobbyists would like to see working at a hotel in Canmore. Or May coming out screaming some nonsense of not just being a "one issue party".
11 weeks of the news full of lame sound bites. Can't wait.
Harper wins Mulcair is the official opposition Trudeau loses his own seat
Do we not have any intelligent leaders who can inspire the Canadian public anymore? (Or the U.S. For that matter?) All the leaders seem like buffoons to me. It is sad because we are such a great country with great people, yet we have political party leaders with the personality of wet noodle. Ugh.. Can't wait for Oct 19th. I know who I am voting for and I won't be listening to all this BS
Not to sound rude or anything, but I Keep who I vote for private, and as such never ask others how they vote. I like to discuss politics and I will say I am not affiliated with any political party. I take great interest in who will be representing my riding in Parliament, not just the party .
Not to sound rude or anything, but I Keep who I vote for private, and as such never ask others how they vote. I like to discuss politics and I will say I am not affiliated with any political party. I take great interest in who will be representing my riding in Parliament, not just the party .
I have no trouble letting anyone I know who I will be voting for. ABC
So I will be voting for the party/leader/candidate who has the best shot at getting in who isn't conservative. Although I would prefer that candidate be from the NDP party, I'm not married to the idea.
And make no mistake, even if you don't live in Harpers riding, a vote for a con is still a vote for Harper. It's his party. If you think any backbencher has any power, you are sadly mistaken.
Not to sound rude or anything, but I Keep who I vote for private, and as such never ask others how they vote. I like to discuss politics and I will say I am not affiliated with any political party. I take great interest in who will be representing my riding in Parliament, not just the party .
I have no trouble letting anyone I know who I will be voting for. ABC
So I will be voting for the party/leader/candidate who has the best shot at getting in who isn't conservative. Although I would prefer that candidate be from the NDP party, I'm not married to the idea.
And make no mistake, even if you don't live in Harpers riding, a vote for a con is still a vote for Harper. It's his party. If you think any backbencher has any power, you are sadly mistaken.
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This is not a PJ special announcement.
This is a prospective leader promising a major change in our country.
Announcing a timeline would in no way affect them. If anything it would put pressure on other parties to challenge them to do the same.
Don't fuck with our heads NDP - show us more.
Yes and the gameplay is there but the user interface could use some more backing.
I was going to fire this back up one way or another
Well no one ever said you can't vote with your gut.
Edit: passive euthanasia (withholding or withdrawing of life-preserving procedures including water and food) and active euthanasia (intentionally killing a person to relieve pain). Whereas passive euthanasia is legal in Canada, active euthanasia is illegal and is considered to be murder.
I'm still trying to process it all, as we do not have the (quite) same central bank situation as the USA, however we are all involved in the FIAT monetary system.
It certainly was food for thought, especially with some of the respected people who were commenting in the documentary.
Is it the system? If it is, you can never blame the system because humans created it.
The fascinating part to me is Classical Economics vs. Neoclassical Economics. Taxing the RESOURCES instead of sales tax/income tax. I will admit, it is becoming apparent trickle down economics is not working. The debt load is becoming unmanageable.
I never would have thought/known US aid would have caused more problems in foreign countries than helped.
I can honestly say . . . Perhaps, Keynesian economics has it all wrong, and a return to classical economics can save the west...
I like the saying "Socialists always run out of other people's money"
I am starting to think the US is more socialist than Canada
Yes look at the GM disaster bailout.
Canada goes to great lengths to ensure that a net-benefit occurs with deals we make with other countries.
The government BORROWS money from the banks, GIVES it to the corporations. Sounds socialist to me. Wouldn't a true capitalist have said "you fucked up, fix it yourself"
Instead, they fed some bullshit to the public about how all their jobs would be lost and the economy would never recover, CHAOS. Similar to the scare tactics used in the war on terror.
So the taxpayer is on the hook for bailing out the companies who should have been allowed to fail.
We all need to collectively pull our heads out of our asses. If we don't, things will get ugly.
Except we call it crony capitalism bbecause even that is better than the S word.
Journalists Are Banned from Stephen Harper's Events and It’s Stupid Nonsense
It's been a problem since time immemorial. Whether it's editing Joseph Stalin's executed allies out of his photos or Barack Obama cherry-picking friendly media to roll out carefully packaged news stories, leaders always want to control the message.
But most leaders recognize that there's a balance between message-strangling and the public's right to know.
Not Stephen Harper, apparently. Not anymore.
Election debate dates set by broadcasters without Conservatives
What an embarrassment. How could this fly?
Jen Gerson: Stephen Harper’s game of dodge-the-press shows he’s a shabby mascot of conservative values
Has there ever been a federal election more uninspiring or predictable than this?
Trudeau and Harper with (lame) mudslinging ads back and forth and Mulcair with his boring rhetoric about how he is the one who will create jobs because that is the number one issue. How is that going to go over with all of those environmentalists you pander to Mulcair? Jobs = industry and the unions who support you, the same union workers that the environmental lobbyists would like to see working at a hotel in Canmore. Or May coming out screaming some nonsense of not just being a "one issue party".
11 weeks of the news full of lame sound bites. Can't wait.
Harper wins
Mulcair is the official opposition
Trudeau loses his own seat
Do we not have any intelligent leaders who can inspire the Canadian public anymore? (Or the U.S. For that matter?)
All the leaders seem like buffoons to me. It is sad because we are such a great country with great people, yet we have political party leaders with the personality of wet noodle. Ugh.. Can't wait for Oct 19th. I know who I am voting for and I won't be listening to all this BS
NDP surges past Conservatives, Liberals in latest poll
New Democrats take double-digit lead in public support
Not to sound rude or anything, but I Keep who I vote for private, and as such never ask others how they vote. I like to discuss politics and I will say I am not affiliated with any political party. I take great interest in who will be representing my riding in Parliament, not just the party .
So I will be voting for the party/leader/candidate who has the best shot at getting in who isn't conservative. Although I would prefer that candidate be from the NDP party, I'm not married to the idea.
And make no mistake, even if you don't live in Harpers riding, a vote for a con is still a vote for Harper. It's his party. If you think any backbencher has any power, you are sadly mistaken.
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/07/30/video-shows-conservative-mps-reading-from-identical-script.html
This is not surprising or news.
They all tow the line.