Not to sound rude or anything, but I Keep who I vote for private, and as such never ask others how they vote. I like to discuss politics and I will say I am not affiliated with any political party. I take great interest in who will be representing my riding in Parliament, not just the party .
I have no trouble letting anyone I know who I will be voting for. ABC
So I will be voting for the party/leader/candidate who has the best shot at getting in who isn't conservative. Although I would prefer that candidate be from the NDP party, I'm not married to the idea.
And make no mistake, even if you don't live in Harpers riding, a vote for a con is still a vote for Harper. It's his party. If you think any backbencher has any power, you are sadly mistaken.
I don't need a lesson on backbenchers and the like. I know how parliamentary democracy works. I do not take voting lightly. I do my research and that includes the "backbencher" or "cabinet member" or "opposition critic" who will represent my riding. Meaningful political dialogue is never engaging when someone is simply "anybody but so-and-so" in my opinion. My vote will be educated, based on party platform, history, and local representation. Of course the leader is important, but as I have said in a previous post, none of the, are inspiring. Therefore, I am going to dig deeper. Whether a "con" a "lib" a "socialist" or a "tree hugger"
Are you boosting your thread count by posting here or are you pissed off that the writing is on the wall that Canada is going to have another majority Conservative government come Oct 19th?
Are you boosting your thread count by posting here or are you pissed off that the writing is on the wall that Canada is going to have another majority Conservative government come Oct 19th?
How did you know? My secret is out!
You are just as clever as the Conservatives, keep up the good work.
Not to sound rude or anything, but I Keep who I vote for private, and as such never ask others how they vote. I like to discuss politics and I will say I am not affiliated with any political party. I take great interest in who will be representing my riding in Parliament, not just the party .
I have no trouble letting anyone I know who I will be voting for. ABC
So I will be voting for the party/leader/candidate who has the best shot at getting in who isn't conservative. Although I would prefer that candidate be from the NDP party, I'm not married to the idea.
And make no mistake, even if you don't live in Harpers riding, a vote for a con is still a vote for Harper. It's his party. If you think any backbencher has any power, you are sadly mistaken.
I don't need a lesson on backbenchers and the like. I know how parliamentary democracy works. I do not take voting lightly. I do my research and that includes the "backbencher" or "cabinet member" or "opposition critic" who will represent my riding. Meaningful political dialogue is never engaging when someone is simply "anybody but so-and-so" in my opinion. My vote will be educated, based on party platform, history, and local representation. Of course the leader is important, but as I have said in a previous post, none of the, are inspiring. Therefore, I am going to dig deeper. Whether a "con" a "lib" a "socialist" or a "tree hugger"
But I thought you have already made up your mind? You're full of contradictions my friend.
"I know who I am voting for and I won't be listening to all this BS"
But what the fuck do I know, I'm just here to get my thread count up
Someone please give me some hope ... when this failure of policy continues to be supported by people who choose to believe in partisanship over accountability - we're just fucked.
Frig ... I get that the Conservatives never cared for Global Warming or the Environment and that has gone to shit but weren't they supposed to be the "Economy" party? Massive defecits, lies and fraud is all the Conservatives delivered. I told you so would be an understatement!
Not to sound rude or anything, but I Keep who I vote for private, and as such never ask others how they vote. I like to discuss politics and I will say I am not affiliated with any political party. I take great interest in who will be representing my riding in Parliament, not just the party .
How come you keep it private? I know a lot of people have this attitude about it, but I never understood why they feel that way. What exactly are you trying to hide? Your political views? If so, why?
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Not to sound rude or anything, but I Keep who I vote for private, and as such never ask others how they vote. I like to discuss politics and I will say I am not affiliated with any political party. I take great interest in who will be representing my riding in Parliament, not just the party .
I have no trouble letting anyone I know who I will be voting for. ABC
So I will be voting for the party/leader/candidate who has the best shot at getting in who isn't conservative. Although I would prefer that candidate be from the NDP party, I'm not married to the idea.
And make no mistake, even if you don't live in Harpers riding, a vote for a con is still a vote for Harper. It's his party. If you think any backbencher has any power, you are sadly mistaken.
I don't need a lesson on backbenchers and the like. I know how parliamentary democracy works. I do not take voting lightly. I do my research and that includes the "backbencher" or "cabinet member" or "opposition critic" who will represent my riding. Meaningful political dialogue is never engaging when someone is simply "anybody but so-and-so" in my opinion. My vote will be educated, based on party platform, history, and local representation. Of course the leader is important, but as I have said in a previous post, none of the, are inspiring. Therefore, I am going to dig deeper. Whether a "con" a "lib" a "socialist" or a "tree hugger"
But I thought you have already made up your mind? You're full of contradictions my friend.
"I know who I am voting for and I won't be listening to all this BS"
But what the fuck do I know, I'm just here to get my thread count up
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Are you boosting your thread count by posting here or are you pissed off that the writing is on the wall that Canada is going to have another majority Conservative government come Oct 19th?
Generally speaking, a person with 2100 posts, who joined the board over a decade ago probably doesn't care much about boosting their 'count'....Which is good cause if a person had, oh, say.....3k+ posts in like oh, say....six months, a lot of it would be attention seeking fluff, trolling, or in those awesome 'what are you doing right now' type threads the AET became all about a few years ago. I've never understood exactly what it is that drives a person to compete over post counts....but I'm pretty sure dignin isnt the type.
man, I'm so tired of the Con attack ads against Trudeau. My radio or tv is on for a total of about 1 hour a day and I hear them at least once or twice per day. "he's just not ready'.....mentioning legalization and saying 'he's got some growing up to do'.....managing to throw ISIS into the ad.... They say 'he has some growing up to do', then end the ad with the sound of a hair blower??? Fuckin seriously? They make fun of his hair while telling him to grow up? I am no liberal supporter, but the Cons reinvent new lows every fucking day. Harper just makes my skin crawl.
man, I'm so tired of the Con attack ads against Trudeau. My radio or tv is on for a total of about 1 hour a day and I hear them at least once or twice per day. "he's just not ready'.....mentioning legalization and saying 'he's got some growing up to do'.....managing to throw ISIS into the ad.... They say 'he has some growing up to do', then end the ad with the sound of a hair blower??? Fuckin seriously? They make fun of his hair while telling him to grow up? I am no liberal supporter, but the Cons reinvent new lows every fucking day. Harper just makes my skin crawl.
I totally agree those ads are ridiculous. They love to chop out bits of a sentence and then replay it out of context in a way that is beyond deceptive (the one that really gets me is where they have him stating that "the budget will balance itself." That's it. It's idiotic. There should be real rules about this. Political parties (let alone the one that is ruling the country at the time) should NOT be allowed to use blatant deceit in their ads. Straight up lies. It's fucked that they can do that. It's fucked that they'd WANT to do that too. Because they are so bad, I seriously doubt that anyone with an IQ above 75 is falling for them.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Not sure, but marketing gurus swear attack ads make a big difference. But then, fuck marketers too Could be empire building for their industry. Maybe an IQ of 75 is too much to ask for. I just saw a story on CTV this weekend saying the ads are the reason the Libs are last in the polls. (meanwhile, the NDP continue to surge....although the 'Mulcair owes you money' angle is going to get terrorist-attack-like attention from the PC's) You're right, there should be laws against it. Not even just against blatant deceit - tell them they can only talk about themselves in their ads. Tell us YOUR plans, not how the other guys will fail.
Are you boosting your thread count by posting here or are you pissed off that the writing is on the wall that Canada is going to have another majority Conservative government come Oct 19th?
Generally speaking, a person with 2100 posts, who joined the board over a decade ago probably doesn't care much about boosting their 'count'....Which is good cause if a person had, oh, say.....3k+ posts in like oh, say....six months, a lot of it would be attention seeking fluff, trolling, or in those awesome 'what are you doing right now' type threads the AET became all about a few years ago. I've never understood exactly what it is that drives a person to compete over post counts....but I'm pretty sure dignin isnt the type.
oh just chill out it was just a friendly dig at dignin he can stand up for himself if need be
You're right, there should be laws against it. Not even just against blatant deceit - tell them they can only talk about themselves in their ads. Tell us YOUR plans, not how the other guys will fail.
Harper is going to get another majority. He is kind of doing it the trump way or vice versa (however you want to look at it) The other guys are losers, dumb and not ready. (in the pcs' view) Very effective and powerful - albeit childish, it works. Justin truly is not ready. Mulcair is just a guy that is there somewhere doing a political thing. Harper, well, he is harper.
Edit - I wonder why Justin ended up cutting his hair? I mean its just hair right?
If the cons win another majority, I'm moving to the states. Ok not really...but if they do, we will get what we deserve. Your post reads like a 'lesser evil' argument, and the conclusion is Harper? *shudder. Trudeau prob isn't ready, and is a fool for saying no to a coalition...but he's not Harper. I really don't care about trudeau's hair. If he cut it over the ads what does that prove? That he's a PR conscious politician? Maybe the libs should counter with pics showing how Steve-o literally resembles a cock? Or laughing at his Lego hair? Keep posting that pic of him with chad Kroeger? Fuck the 'it's childish but it works' attitude: I expect more from my public servants. I haven't heard much in the way of attacking the ndp...and look at their numbers rise as the libs sink...and that's the thing. The majority of Canadians are waaaay more leftist than the government representing them. Election numbers prove it. The left needs to vote strategically in their ridings. If the parties can't get their shit together to get Harper out of office, we need to organize and do it ourselves....yes, no matter who that means governs.
If the cons win another majority, I'm moving to the states. Ok not really...but if they do, we will get what we deserve. Your post reads like a 'lesser evil' argument, and the conclusion is Harper? *shudder. Trudeau prob isn't ready, and is a fool for saying no to a coalition...but he's not Harper. I really don't care about trudeau's hair. If he cut it over the ads what does that prove? That he's a PR conscious politician? Maybe the libs should counter with pics showing how Steve-o literally resembles a cock? Or laughing at his Lego hair? Keep posting that pic of him with chad Kroeger? Fuck the 'it's childish but it works' attitude: I expect more from my public servants. I haven't heard much in the way of attacking the ndp...and look at their numbers rise as the libs sink...and that's the thing. The majority of Canadians are waaaay more leftist than the government representing them. Election numbers prove it. The left needs to vote strategically in their ridings. If the parties can't get their shit together to get Harper out of office, we need to organize and do it ourselves....yes, no matter who that means governs.
All your points indicate a majority for the conservatives.
I live in Elizabeth May's riding. She's running again, but at this point I'm not sure who else is running in our riding (my fault for not bothering to check yet). She won handily in the last election but time will tell how things go this time around. May has been recognized as a hard working MP but that press gallery speech may weigh her down a bit. And, of course, the Greens are not going to be leading the country anytime soon.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
.....and ignoring your reply, since it only repeated your previous claim. Tough to discuss much with a crystal ball, or to respond to insightful nuggets like 'a guy somewhere doing a political thing'.
man, I'm so tired of the Con attack ads against Trudeau. My radio or tv is on for a total of about 1 hour a day and I hear them at least once or twice per day. "he's just not ready'.....mentioning legalization and saying 'he's got some growing up to do'.....managing to throw ISIS into the ad.... They say 'he has some growing up to do', then end the ad with the sound of a hair blower??? Fuckin seriously? They make fun of his hair while telling him to grow up? I am no liberal supporter, but the Cons reinvent new lows every fucking day. Harper just makes my skin crawl.
This. Big time.
I have to watch that stupid ad where the gaggle of old cronies sit with his resume and mock the idea for legalization of pot (which is a freaking great idea)... and proceed to say, " Not saying forever... just not now." With the big 'he's not ready' panel.
Harper's government needs the toe like no other government I can remember in recent decades. I'll roll the dice on Trudeau.
ABC, ABC, ABC... I hope the NDP run away with the election and get a shot at righting the many wrongs Harper has done to the country. Start with taxing the rich and the corporations. Bring in the national daycare program and scrap or halve the fighter jet thing. And just take better care of the working class and the poor. Corporate profits and the wealthiest need to be tamed and reduced. Share the wealth and end poverty in this country now!
In joyous part.
I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.
Harper makes my skin crawl too...... I even feel like he looks like a pedophile, lol. I'm sure he's not, but he sure looks like one to me. I really do wish that the NDP and the Liberals would form a coalition. Their refusal to do that is trapping Canada with a Conservative government. I can't even see a light at the end of the tunnel unless they pull together on the left. We will live under the "Harper Government" until the asshole hands it over to some new asshole. I understand why both parties would be hesitant to form a coalition, but I think they are on pages close enough together to be able to cooperate and compromise for the benefit of Canadians, which should be their main concern.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
For me a coalition would be far more acceptable than any conservative gov. But I really want to see the NDP take office for their first time.
Harper reminds me of a guy who was bullied his whole childhood and grew up with a huge chip on his shoulder and is looking to settle scores. A diabolical villian.
I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.
Not to sound rude or anything, but I Keep who I vote for private, and as such never ask others how they vote. I like to discuss politics and I will say I am not affiliated with any political party. I take great interest in who will be representing my riding in Parliament, not just the party .
How come you keep it private? I know a lot of people have this attitude about it, but I never understood why they feel that way. What exactly are you trying to hide? Your political views? If so, why?
Some things in life are no one else's business. Who I vote for is one of them.
Not to sound rude or anything, but I Keep who I vote for private, and as such never ask others how they vote. I like to discuss politics and I will say I am not affiliated with any political party. I take great interest in who will be representing my riding in Parliament, not just the party .
I have no trouble letting anyone I know who I will be voting for. ABC
So I will be voting for the party/leader/candidate who has the best shot at getting in who isn't conservative. Although I would prefer that candidate be from the NDP party, I'm not married to the idea.
And make no mistake, even if you don't live in Harpers riding, a vote for a con is still a vote for Harper. It's his party. If you think any backbencher has any power, you are sadly mistaken.
I don't need a lesson on backbenchers and the like. I know how parliamentary democracy works. I do not take voting lightly. I do my research and that includes the "backbencher" or "cabinet member" or "opposition critic" who will represent my riding. Meaningful political dialogue is never engaging when someone is simply "anybody but so-and-so" in my opinion. My vote will be educated, based on party platform, history, and local representation. Of course the leader is important, but as I have said in a previous post, none of the, are inspiring. Therefore, I am going to dig deeper. Whether a "con" a "lib" a "socialist" or a "tree hugger"
But I thought you have already made up your mind? You're full of contradictions my friend.
"I know who I am voting for and I won't be listening to all this BS"
But what the fuck do I know, I'm just here to get my thread count up
Fair point, I did say I have made up my mind. However, they still have time to change it. That is the beauty of a campaign. Part of me thinks I should ignore those buffoons and vote for the best MP candidate in my riding.
Perhaps I am just talking out both sides of my mouth because it gets the hard line leftists riled up loll
Not to sound rude or anything, but I Keep who I vote for private, and as such never ask others how they vote. I like to discuss politics and I will say I am not affiliated with any political party. I take great interest in who will be representing my riding in Parliament, not just the party .
How come you keep it private? I know a lot of people have this attitude about it, but I never understood why they feel that way. What exactly are you trying to hide? Your political views? If so, why?
Some things in life are no one else's business. Who I vote for is one of them.
Yes, I gathered that. I was just wondering why that is. The reason behind feeling like it's so secret.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Not to sound rude or anything, but I Keep who I vote for private, and as such never ask others how they vote. I like to discuss politics and I will say I am not affiliated with any political party. I take great interest in who will be representing my riding in Parliament, not just the party .
How come you keep it private? I know a lot of people have this attitude about it, but I never understood why they feel that way. What exactly are you trying to hide? Your political views? If so, why?
Some things in life are no one else's business. Who I vote for is one of them.
Yes, I gathered that. I was just wondering why that is. The reason behind feeling like it's so secret.
Why do you think the voting booth is private? If it was anyone else's business who you were voting for, everyone would go in and tell some one and they would put a check mark. Who you vote for is your own business, if you choose,to blab to whomever you want to about your voting strategy to influence others, that is your business. If I choose to not vote (as that is a vote itself and my democratic right) then some self righteous blowhard will tell me I have no right to complain when policy doesn't go my way (rubbish). If I choose to vote NDP, I am a bleeding heart liberal. If I vote conservative, I am a new-com. If I vote liberal, I am an idiot, If I vote Green, I am a tree hugging granola.
Basically, whomever I vote for I am none of the above. And since I don't appreciate being labelled, I keep my voting preference to myself. By the way, this is not a hostile answer. I was also raised this way. You never, never ever ask: 1) how someone voted 2) how much money they make 3) what the tab was on a meal you are not paying for 4) a woman's age 5) if a woman is pregnant
Some of these are obvious if you want to live to see old age...:lol
Not to sound rude or anything, but I Keep who I vote for private, and as such never ask others how they vote. I like to discuss politics and I will say I am not affiliated with any political party. I take great interest in who will be representing my riding in Parliament, not just the party .
How come you keep it private? I know a lot of people have this attitude about it, but I never understood why they feel that way. What exactly are you trying to hide? Your political views? If so, why?
Some things in life are no one else's business. Who I vote for is one of them.
Yes, I gathered that. I was just wondering why that is. The reason behind feeling like it's so secret.
Well...if you read back in this thread....1thought told us that he saw the AB NDP govt coming and went and got a union job. Soooo....if he publicly admits to voting Con, he'll be condemned by his 'brothers'. If he admits to voting NDP, he will feel like a sellout because he employs the 'social liberal, fiscal conservative' fallacy as part of his belief structure. amiright?
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I do not take voting lightly. I do my research and that includes the "backbencher" or "cabinet member" or "opposition critic" who will represent my riding.
Meaningful political dialogue is never engaging when someone is simply "anybody but so-and-so" in my opinion.
My vote will be educated, based on party platform, history, and local representation. Of course the leader is important, but as I have said in a previous post, none of the, are inspiring. Therefore, I am going to dig deeper.
Whether a "con" a "lib" a "socialist" or a "tree hugger"
You are just as clever as the Conservatives, keep up the good work.
"I know who I am voting for and I won't be listening to all this BS"
But what the fuck do I know, I'm just here to get my thread count up
Someone please give me some hope ... when this failure of policy continues to be supported by people who choose to believe in partisanship over accountability - we're just fucked.
Frig ... I get that the Conservatives never cared for Global Warming or the Environment and that has gone to shit but weren't they supposed to be the "Economy" party? Massive defecits, lies and fraud is all the Conservatives delivered. I told you so would be an understatement!
"he's just not ready'.....mentioning legalization and saying 'he's got some growing up to do'.....managing to throw ISIS into the ad....
They say 'he has some growing up to do', then end the ad with the sound of a hair blower??? Fuckin seriously? They make fun of his hair while telling him to grow up?
I am no liberal supporter, but the Cons reinvent new lows every fucking day. Harper just makes my skin crawl.
You're right, there should be laws against it. Not even just against blatant deceit - tell them they can only talk about themselves in their ads. Tell us YOUR plans, not how the other guys will fail.
it was just a friendly dig at dignin
he can stand up for himself if need be
He is kind of doing it the trump way or vice versa (however you want to look at it)
The other guys are losers, dumb and not ready. (in the pcs' view)
Very effective and powerful - albeit childish, it works.
Justin truly is not ready.
Mulcair is just a guy that is there somewhere doing a political thing.
Harper, well, he is harper.
Edit - I wonder why Justin ended up cutting his hair? I mean its just hair right?
Ok not really...but if they do, we will get what we deserve. Your post reads like a 'lesser evil' argument, and the conclusion is Harper? *shudder. Trudeau prob isn't ready, and is a fool for saying no to a coalition...but he's not Harper.
I really don't care about trudeau's hair. If he cut it over the ads what does that prove? That he's a PR conscious politician? Maybe the libs should counter with pics showing how Steve-o literally resembles a cock? Or laughing at his Lego hair? Keep posting that pic of him with chad Kroeger? Fuck the 'it's childish but it works' attitude: I expect more from my public servants. I haven't heard much in the way of attacking the ndp...and look at their numbers rise as the libs sink...and that's the thing. The majority of Canadians are waaaay more leftist than the government representing them. Election numbers prove it. The left needs to vote strategically in their ridings. If the parties can't get their shit together to get Harper out of office, we need to organize and do it ourselves....yes, no matter who that means governs.
Mulcair is just a guy roaming around.
I have to watch that stupid ad where the gaggle of old cronies sit with his resume and mock the idea for legalization of pot (which is a freaking great idea)... and proceed to say, " Not saying forever... just not now." With the big 'he's not ready' panel.
Harper's government needs the toe like no other government I can remember in recent decades. I'll roll the dice on Trudeau.
I hope the NDP run away with the election and get a shot at righting the many wrongs Harper has done to the country. Start with taxing the rich and the corporations. Bring in the national daycare program and scrap or halve the fighter jet thing. And just take better care of the working class and the poor. Corporate profits and the wealthiest need to be tamed and reduced. Share the wealth and end poverty in this country now!
In joyous part.
I really do wish that the NDP and the Liberals would form a coalition. Their refusal to do that is trapping Canada with a Conservative government. I can't even see a light at the end of the tunnel unless they pull together on the left. We will live under the "Harper Government" until the asshole hands it over to some new asshole.
I understand why both parties would be hesitant to form a coalition, but I think they are on pages close enough together to be able to cooperate and compromise for the benefit of Canadians, which should be their main concern.
Harper reminds me of a guy who was bullied his whole childhood and grew up with a huge chip on his shoulder and is looking to settle scores. A diabolical villian.
Part of me thinks I should ignore those buffoons and vote for the best MP candidate in my riding.
Perhaps I am just talking out both sides of my mouth because it gets the hard line leftists riled up loll
Who you vote for is your own business, if you choose,to blab to whomever you want to about your voting strategy to influence others, that is your business.
If I choose to not vote (as that is a vote itself and my democratic right) then some self righteous blowhard will tell me I have no right to complain when policy doesn't go my way (rubbish).
If I choose to vote NDP, I am a bleeding heart liberal.
If I vote conservative, I am a new-com.
If I vote liberal, I am an idiot,
If I vote Green, I am a tree hugging granola.
Basically, whomever I vote for I am none of the above. And since I don't appreciate being labelled, I keep my voting preference to myself. By the way, this is not a hostile answer. I was also raised this way. You never, never ever ask:
1) how someone voted
2) how much money they make
3) what the tab was on a meal you are not paying for
4) a woman's age
5) if a woman is pregnant
Some of these are obvious if you want to live to see old age...:lol