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  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
    Cruz voted against veteran's benefits so he's chickenhawk scum to me whether he has an R next to his name or not.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845

    Cruz voted against veteran's benefits so he's chickenhawk scum to me whether he has an R next to his name or not.

    Hey, don't you be bringing your American politics into our cozy little Canadian enclave! Even if he was born here, we have a no return policy on Republicans. :smiley:
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    ^^^^^^

    Eroded away hey. So you are saying we had Nordic style socialism in 1971?
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    ^^^^^^

    Eroded away hey. So you are saying we had Nordic style socialism in 1971?

    "Norway's former Finance Minister recently said the reason they have a trillion dollars in the bank is because they looked at the model of Alberta, designed by Peter Lougheed's PC government in the 80s. "


    Your own words
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited June 2015
    Bold and extremely pretentious statements coming from our PM today.
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canada-commits-to-ending-fossil-fuel-use-by-2100/article24844340/
    We have now pledged along with the other G7 countries to end the use of fossil fuels by 2100. Pretty good politicking considering an election is right around the corner.
    He has just made all the environmentalists happy by doing nothing except using words.
    Along with pledging to limiting the increase in global temperature to less than 2 degrees Celsius above preindustrial levels.
    I don't know who is crazier the global warming environmentalists who live in lala land or country leaders who believe that this can be done. Limit the global temperature increase to 2degrees-that's swell, thanks so much guys, appreciate it.

    Save the planet! Vote Harper! - in 85 years you won't even recognize this earth.



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  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited June 2015
    Lougheed was a PC. How could he erode it away if he created it?

    Do you really think the NDP will save money? :lol:


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  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155

    Bold and extremely pretentious statements coming from our PM today.
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canada-commits-to-ending-fossil-fuel-use-by-2100/article24844340/
    We have now pledged along with the other G7 countries to end the use of fossil fuels by 2100. Pretty good politicking considering an election is right around the corner.
    He has just made all the environmentalists happy by doing nothing except using words.
    Along with pledging to limiting the increase in global temperature to less than 2 degrees Celsius above preindustrial levels.
    I don't know who is crazier the global warming environmentalists who live in lala land or country leaders who believe that this can be done. Limit the global temperature increase to 2degrees-that's swell, thanks so much guys, appreciate it.

    Save the planet! Vote Harper! - in 85 years you won't even recognize this earth.



    Lol in 85 years he (and the other 6) will be dust and when these campaign promises are not fulfilled, so what. This means nothing.
  • ^^^^^^
    I know.
    That is what I'm saying. It's just words from talking heads.
    But those words could get the PCs elected again because those words have just made every green activist happier today.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    I don't really have to pay "close attention" to American politics. I live in Canada. But, you obviously missed my point, I am socially liberal, not conservative. I am not in line with anything Republican on social issues. Especially not Huckabee, Tea Party or not.
    The entire Republican Party is not Tea Party crazy, but that Cruz guy (born in Calgary) is a maniac. The religious right in the US is not a force here in Canada, and the Republicans NEED their votes. Mike Huckabee may be a social conservative but not in the tea party, which is just as bad isn't it?
    Does he support gay marriage? Abortion? Push for change in racial inequality? Fair immigration reform?

    Our "conservative" federal government has admitted to a huge travesty involving First Nations and catholic residential schools, calling It "cultural genocide". I applause them on taking the first step to assist in healing process for our First Nations people. Would the Republicans do that? Would they admit slavery was wrong and publicly admit to the world that American policy screwed up the following generations with slavery? Really, I am asking because you seem to think I know so little....

    Republicans are the ones who abolished slavery. You should at a bare minimum know that. Coming back to the topic at hand...I am a socially liberal Canadian like you. I am just trying to correct you on what the "tea party" is and isn't. You lumped the tea party in with social conservatism yet they are not the same. The tea party started as a reaction to the spending of George W Bush who is a social conservative. The tea party has nothing to do with social conservativism although there are some social conservatives who are both i.e. Ted Cruz. Tea party conservatism is fiscal conservatism with a strain of populism. It wants minimal government spending and does not want subsidies or regulations that protect big banks or other large corporations from smaller start-ups. It is most concerned with the growth of crony capitalism and on social issues it is far more libertarian. My point is that for you to use the term "Tea Party crazy" does not really make sense when on the economic front you are far more aligned with them then you realize.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    Lougheed was a PC. How could he erode it away if he created it?

    Do you really think the NDP will save money? :lol:


    It's like talking to a wall man.

    Go back and read what I said.

  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    ^^^^^^
    I know.
    That is what I'm saying. It's just words from talking heads.
    But those words could get the PCs elected again because those words have just made every green activist happier today.

    Not in the least. No one I know is that stupid.

  • ^^^^
    You're wrong - All those armchair/internet/bumper sticker green activists are happier today.
    They let others do the heavy lifting and today will think that this campaign promise will bring what they have advocated for all along.
    They will support this because no other party has come out onto global stage to promote this.

  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    Sigh... I don't care anymore. Keep "talking" to a wall.
  • ^^^^
    me?
  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    If you really believe that is what the Tea Party is you have been had.
  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155

    ^^^^^^
    I know.
    That is what I'm saying. It's just words from talking heads.
    But those words could get the PCs elected again because those words have just made every green activist happier today.

    You betcha, we think alike for the most part. Cheers dude, and apparently every PC for the past forty years eroded the Nordic style government they created. Lmao
    There is a joke in there somewhere.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    If you really believe that is what the Tea Party is you have been had.

    Ats duh troof rat dur.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs said:

    If you really believe that is what the Tea Party is you have been had.

    Ats duh troof rat dur.
    yee haw,
    stick it in your grammaw
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    ^^^^^^
    I know.
    That is what I'm saying. It's just words from talking heads.
    But those words could get the PCs elected again because those words have just made every green activist happier today.

    You betcha, we think alike for the most part. Cheers dude, and apparently every PC for the past forty years eroded the Nordic style government they created. Lmao
    There is a joke in there somewhere.
    Again, a wall. A very thick wall.

  • dignin said:

    ^^^^^^
    I know.
    That is what I'm saying. It's just words from talking heads.
    But those words could get the PCs elected again because those words have just made every green activist happier today.

    You betcha, we think alike for the most part. Cheers dude, and apparently every PC for the past forty years eroded the Nordic style government they created. Lmao
    There is a joke in there somewhere.
    Again, a wall. A very thick wall.

    Easy.
    This is a Canadian Politics thread.
    No need for veiled insults.
    Make your point.
    Mr. Speaker gives you 2minutes.
  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    Alberta has never had Nordic style of government. Norway used one idea from Alberta, by researching what countries were doing with oil riches. They tax the hell out of people so they don't have to use resource money. They are a country, not a province with financial obligations to another Higher Level of government, the Feds. They have 5 million people. The comparison is unfair and quite frankly, nonsensical.

  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    Alberta has never had Nordic style of government. Norway used one idea from Alberta, by researching what countries were doing with oil riches. They tax the hell out of people so they don't have to use resource money. They are a country, not a province with financial obligations to another Higher Level of government, the Feds. They have 5 million people. The comparison is unfair and quite frankly, nonsensical.

    You said this

    "In fact, Norway's former Finance Minister recently said the reason they have a trillion dollars in the bank is because they looked at the model of Alberta, designed by Peter Lougheed's PC government in the 80s."

    To which I responded this

    "The model which all proceeding PC governments eroded away. The model which Rachel Notley and the Alberta NDP wants to bring us back to."



    I never said Alberta had a Nordic style of government, you seem to have come up with that out of thin air. The only thing I commented on was that Alberta started out fairly taxing oil (under Lougheed) and then throughout the years, I believe starting with King Ralph, eroded away those taxes, to what pittance they pay now. Notley will hopefully, after the oil review, raise those taxes more in line with what Lougheed had them paying back in the 70's.

    Got it?
  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited June 2015
    Naaaaah... You posted the Nordic style government link to wankerpedia. I know what you were trying to do.
    Were you around in the 80s to early 90s in Alberta? No jobs and no foreign investment. Klein was closing hospitals to try and balance budgets. (Thank the Libs for the NEP and no one here has forgotten)
    If you were, you would remember how tough it was, and perhaps the "erosion of taxes" you speak of is part of the reason industry saw Alberta as a business friendly province and created all the prosperity we have today. I graduated in 92, no hope and no future which is the MAIN reason bands like PJ spoke to us in the first place.
    This is the problem, when things don't go the far left's way, they fall to the "they are stealing our resources and we shouldn't turtle" position when the fact is, they don't really need our oil as there are plenty of other options for investment in the resource industry. It is not as black and white as your previous post.
    Notley has only promised a royalty review, no evidence she plans on putting more money in the kitty. With all of her campaign promises I cannot fathom how she could.

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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    Naaaaah... You posted the Nordic style government link to wankerpedia. I know what you were trying to do.
    Were you around in the 80s to early 90s in Alberta? No jobs and no foreign investment. Klein was closing hospitals to try and balance budgets. (Thank the Libs for the NEP and no one here has forgotten)
    If you were, you would remember how tough it was, and perhaps the "erosion of taxes" you speak of is part of the reason industry saw Alberta as a business friendly province and created all the prosperity we have today. I graduated in 92, no hope and no future which is the MAIN reason bands like PJ spoke to us in the first place.
    This is the problem, when things don't go the far left's way, they fall to the "they are stealing our resources and we shouldn't turtle" position when the fact is, they don't really need our oil as there are plenty of other options for investment in the resource industry. It is not as black and white as your previous post.
    Notley has only promised a royalty review, no evidence she plans on putting more money in the kitty. With all of her campaign promises I cannot fathom how she could.

    You are very confused, I posted the link on Wikipedia after your comment, "Sweden failed" and "Canada has the most successful balance of socialism and capitalism the world has ever seen.
    Health Care for everyone. A social safety net as good as anywhere. The ability to gain wealth.
    The joy of living in a safe country."

    Sweden is hardly a failure and Canada being a perfect beacon of hope to the rest of the world is laughable.


    I'm born and bred Albertan. I used to think that King Ralph was great. Until I stopped following the zombie like love of the man and opened my eyes to the damage that man did. He gutted our province and sold it to the highest bidder.

    And lets not forget the party that was in power before Klein.......

    How about we give this new government a chance to succeed or fail? I'm sick and tired of all the wet blankets who are counting their chickens before they hatch.


  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    This ought to get a few of you in a tizzy

    Mulcair poised for clear shot at becoming prime minister as NDP surges in polls

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/mulcair-poised-for-clear-shot-at-prime-minister-as-ndp-surges-in-polls/article24909370/
  • dignin said:

    This ought to get a few of you in a tizzy

    Mulcair poised for clear shot at becoming prime minister as NDP surges in polls

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/mulcair-poised-for-clear-shot-at-prime-minister-as-ndp-surges-in-polls/article24909370/

    With his competition being Trudeau of course he is in the running.
    Mulcair - Prime Minister? Really?
    Now that would be a wet blanket on the country.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    yikes ... someone actually thinks harper's comments on decarbonization is gonna make environmentalists vote for him ... this place has clearly gone to shits ...
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    polaris_x said:

    yikes ... someone actually thinks harper's comments on decarbonization is gonna make environmentalists vote for him ... this place has clearly gone to shits ...

    Holy shit, welcome back polaris.

  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    edited June 2015
    Double post
    Post edited by dignin on
  • polaris_x said:

    yikes ... someone actually thinks harper's comments on decarbonization is gonna make environmentalists vote for him ... this place has clearly gone to shits ...

    So your contribution to the conversation is....?
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