Reference to Jeremy Lin and PJ

foriginalsin

81 wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

81 wrote:

how bout 27 in 36 minutes, plus 18 points on 8 of 12 shooting and only 2 turnovers to boot vs the Knicks no less

http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 90NYK.html

Yeah, but what did he do in the FIRST 27 minutes

(You do know I think the 2 should not even be mentioned in the same breath).

how about a 29 minute game

11 assists
22 points on 10 of 15 shooting

http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 80UTA.html

This is getting ridiculous. Jeremy Lin is good and for real but he is NOT JOHN STOCKTON.

EdsonNascimento

foriginalsin wrote:

81 wrote:

how about a 29 minute game

11 assists
22 points on 10 of 15 shooting

http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 80UTA.html

This is getting ridiculous. Jeremy Lin is good and for real but he is NOT JOHN STOCKTON.

Follow along. Nobody's saying that.

And to the more mature smoking baby - I'd expect more out of you - 29 > 27 and he still couldn't get to the unlintainable assist mark.

Rossum20

“It’s unbelievable,” Lin told WFAN’s Boomer & Carton on Thursday morning. “I don’t really have words right now to explain it.”

And — surprise! — it might all be because of Carmelo Anthony.

Lin insisted any notion that Anthony is “selfish” and unable to share the spotlight should be thrown out the window. In fact, it was Anthony who convinced coach Mike D’Antoni to give Lin a chance.

“I’m just confused, because he’s the one who vouched for me in the first place,” said Lin. “We want to play together and we want to work together and we’re buying into that. You know, some people are calling Melo selfish and (saying) ‘He doesn’t buy into the team.’ I mean, that’s just tough for anyone to hear. Especially when we don’t think it’s true.”

The question is whether the Knicks will continue to have success with Anthony in the mix. D’Antoni said Wednesday that the superstar, out since Feb. 7 with a strained groin, could return as early as Friday.

Lin said there won’t be any issues sharing the court.

“I don’t want to come out here and shoot 20 shots a game,” he said. “But if that’s what the defense gives me, on those nights that’s what I’m gonna have to do.”

Callaway

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81

EdsonNascimento wrote:

unlintainable

boooooo

81

http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 90UTA.html

14 dimes in 26 minutes.

81

http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 70UTA.html

16 in 26

EdsonNascimento

Rossum20 wrote:

“It’s unbelievable,” Lin told WFAN’s Boomer & Carton on Thursday morning. “I don’t really have words right now to explain it.”

And — surprise! — it might all be because of Carmelo Anthony.

Lin insisted any notion that Anthony is “selfish” and unable to share the spotlight should be thrown out the window. In fact, it was Anthony who convinced coach Mike D’Antoni to give Lin a chance.

“I’m just confused, because he’s the one who vouched for me in the first place,” said Lin. “We want to play together and we want to work together and we’re buying into that. You know, some people are calling Melo selfish and (saying) ‘He doesn’t buy into the team.’ I mean, that’s just tough for anyone to hear. Especially when we don’t think it’s true.”

The question is whether the Knicks will continue to have success with Anthony in the mix. D’Antoni said Wednesday that the superstar, out since Feb. 7 with a strained groin, could return as early as Friday.

Lin said there won’t be any issues sharing the court.

“I don’t want to come out here and shoot 20 shots a game,” he said. “But if that’s what the defense gives me, on those nights that’s what I’m gonna have to do.”

Anyone who thinks a guy who likes to shoot can't play with a guy who likes to pass to people in easy, open scoring positions has never played or watched the sport. Melo did not have the ball in his hands all this time because he wanted to (though under the circumstances he did WANT to because that was the best way for that construct to win. I know that sounds contradictory, but 1 is an overall want, and 1 is a circumstantial want). Yes, he likes to get touches and shoot. But, I'm sure he likes to get touches in shoot in the open court. Lin isn't scoring 100 pts a game all on his lonesome. There's points to be had (and wouldn't logic also dictate ADDING a prolific scorer with a good facilitator would make the totals go up as a whole, leaving more for the individual?)

EdsonNascimento

81 wrote:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199001270UTA.html

16 in 26

1

EdsonNascimento

81 wrote:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199204090UTA.html

14 dimes in 26 minutes.

2

81

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Anyone who thinks a guy who likes to shoot can't play with a guy who likes to pass to people in easy, open scoring positions has never played or watched the sport. Melo did not have the ball in his hands all this time because he wanted to (though under the circumstances he did WANT to because that was the best way for that construct to win. I know that sounds contradictory, but 1 is an overall want, and 1 is a circumstantial want). Yes, he likes to get touches and shoot. But, I'm sure he likes to get touches in shoot in the open court. Lin isn't scoring 100 pts a game all on his lonesome. There's points to be had (and wouldn't logic also dictate ADDING a prolific scorer with a good facilitator would make the totals go up as a whole, leaving more for the individual?)

soooo....what you are saying is....Stockton to Malone made sense.

foriginalsin

Callaway wrote:

foriginalsin wrote:

FUN FACT about Jim Jackson:

Both he and Jason Kidd were banging toni Braxton at the same time. This caused a huge rift between them and fucked up the team.

That was actually not the truth. Jim and Jason Kidd were going to go meet her at a recording studio. Jim Jackson and Scotty Brooks instead went to a meeting with Pepsi Cola executives the night of. Jason Kidd thought Jim Jackson went without him and like the punk Jason Kidd is took it to the press that he wanted Jim Jackson traded. Jim Jackson told the real story including more about all that happened but neither one of them ever did met her. Toni Braxton about a year later said she didn't say anything because she thought it was cute. Like Jim Jackson said later, she had an album coming out called Secrets and it was good press for her.

Thanks for clearing that up.

81

EdsonNascimento wrote:

81 wrote:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199204090UTA.html

14 dimes in 26 minutes.

2

you want more? there are more.

in reality, you should be looking at minutes per assist or assists per minute to get a fairer compairson.

i also like to look at assists * 2 + points to get a feel for what a player contributed to scoring. that doesn't take into account pass pass score plays which happen quite a bit.

EdsonNascimento

81 wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

unlintainable

boooooo

I did hesitate.

My favorite (but only because my 8 year old came home with it is Too Linfinity! And Beyond!!!)


My other favorite aspect of this is racism/profiling is somehow once again acceptable. Sitting in a bar in NYC Friday night and a regular in the bar I had randomly chosen out of the blue tells the Asian waitress that she must be loving the Knicks right now. First a - I have no idea what you're talking about, but then - the oh, yeah I'm a waitress, so I'll agree conversation. I'm not sure why you have to be Asian to enjoy this. Or, why if you are Asian you have to wait for this to enjoy something. He's more American than half the Caucasians playing in the league. Fun times!

EdsonNascimento

81 wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

81 wrote:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199204090UTA.html

14 dimes in 26 minutes.

2

you want more? there are more.

in reality, you should be looking at minutes per assist or assists per minute to get a fairer compairson.

i also like to look at assists * 2 + points to get a feel for what a player contributed to scoring. that doesn't take into account pass pass score plays which happen quite a bit.

Well, I think we should look at total points in first 4 games started. I think THAT'S a fairer comparison. Booyah!!!! I win!!! I love random statistics. Nobody beats J-Lin!!!!!

And, yes - I'd like you to find more. It's got to be more exciting than watching the Cubs-Pirates.

conman

this is quite the PJ discussion you have going on here

81

EdsonNascimento wrote:

And, yes - I'd like you to find more. It's got to be more exciting than watching the Cubs-Pirates.

you left too soon.

Callaway

conman wrote:

this is quite the PJ discussion you have going on here

Mike McCready is a way better guitar player than Prince.

RiotZact

I'm totally neutral on the subject, but theirs no doubt that the kid has potential and for someone to come on here and say that he already knows how the guys career is going to pan out just pisses me the fuck off. No one came on hear saying he's the best player ever or anything but RM22 has to act as if he knows exactly whats going to happen. And then make a NFL NBA comparison just to tell someone they can't make an NFL NBA comparison a few posts later :roll:

There was a thread started about you on AET today RM22

http://forums.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=183579

For the record I'm not very found of the knicks, I'm a sixers fan now and when I was a little kid I was a heat fan back when the knicks/heat played every year in the playoffs and the knicks won. I agree that the media is blowing all of this way out of proportion but to not even give him a chance and state it as a fact that no one will know of him in 2 years is just ridiculous.

EdsonNascimento

81 wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

And, yes - I'd like you to find more. It's got to be more exciting than watching the Cubs-Pirates.

you left too soon.

Alpine Valley beckoned. You cannot deny the call of the wild...

Jeremy spoke in MmmSG Tonight....
Clearly I remember
Him picking on the D
Seemed a harmless littl F***
But, Mike unleashed a lion
Nashed!!!!! his teeth and broke the Defense man's ankles
How can I forget!!!
Then he hit Melo with a surprise Pass
Our jaws left hurtin
Dropped wide open
Just like the day
Like the day I heard

Golden State wouldn't give affection
And Houston was something that J-Lin wouldn't wear
King Jeremy the wicked
Ruled his world

Jeremy Spoke in... MmmSG tonight.


Ok. Now can this stay on the Porch? Skipped a couple verses. Feel free to add, and correct.