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  • She is calling the coach out?  C'mon with that crap.  The coach has to calm egos.  What was he expected to say?  He walks on eggshells around AB?
    Have you followed any of this? Arians didn't want AB on the team from the start. Probably because he sat and watched Brown be accused of rape, arrested for assaulting a truck driver, live streaming himself berating his baby-mama in front of police and his children, and be completely unprofessional and disrespectful to the Steelers, Raiders, and Patriots (among other things). But Tom Brady wanted him anyway, so Arians had to play ball. Then Arians said if there is one slip up, he's gone. Then of course Brown gets a fake vax card, but Arians still couldn't get rid of him because of Brady. 

    Oh and how about Brady's press conference yesterday? He hopes people are compassionate and empathetic towards Brown. Hilarious. Maybe Tom should take Brown back in his home and help him improve his life WITHOUT the benefit of Brown catching footballs for him. You think Tom is compassionate and empathetic enough to do that? 
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925

    What really happened 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594
    She is calling the coach out?  C'mon with that crap.  The coach has to calm egos.  What was he expected to say?  He walks on eggshells around AB?
    Have you followed any of this? Arians didn't want AB on the team from the start. Probably because he sat and watched Brown be accused of rape, arrested for assaulting a truck driver, live streaming himself berating his baby-mama in front of police and his children, and be completely unprofessional and disrespectful to the Steelers, Raiders, and Patriots (among other things). But Tom Brady wanted him anyway, so Arians had to play ball. Then Arians said if there is one slip up, he's gone. Then of course Brown gets a fake vax card, but Arians still couldn't get rid of him because of Brady. 

    Oh and how about Brady's press conference yesterday? He hopes people are compassionate and empathetic towards Brown. Hilarious. Maybe Tom should take Brown back in his home and help him improve his life WITHOUT the benefit of Brown catching footballs for him. You think Tom is compassionate and empathetic enough to do that? 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451

    Brady and Arians deserve all the criticism in the world for excusing / ignoring / overlooking AB's sociopathic behavior for the sake of winning. 

  • Brady and Arians deserve all the criticism in the world for excusing / ignoring / overlooking AB's sociopathic behavior for the sake of winning. 
    Throw "enabling" in there too. They both look ridiculous. But at least Arians is sort of a puppet. Brady did some big time mental gymnastics and decompartmentalizing to justify Brown on the team. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    She is calling the coach out?  C'mon with that crap.  The coach has to calm egos.  What was he expected to say?  He walks on eggshells around AB?
    Have you followed any of this? Arians didn't want AB on the team from the start. Probably because he sat and watched Brown be accused of rape, arrested for assaulting a truck driver, live streaming himself berating his baby-mama in front of police and his children, and be completely unprofessional and disrespectful to the Steelers, Raiders, and Patriots (among other things). But Tom Brady wanted him anyway, so Arians had to play ball. Then Arians said if there is one slip up, he's gone. Then of course Brown gets a fake vax card, but Arians still couldn't get rid of him because of Brady. 

    Oh and how about Brady's press conference yesterday? He hopes people are compassionate and empathetic towards Brown. Hilarious. Maybe Tom should take Brown back in his home and help him improve his life WITHOUT the benefit of Brown catching footballs for him. You think Tom is compassionate and empathetic enough to do that? 
    I was impressed with Tom's statement.  It's clear that AB has mental health issues.  Is mental health no longer health?  I support giving people as many chances as you can.  If AB goes to counseling and tries to come back in a year, I'd be cool with someone taking him. Now it's a risk because he is obviously a distraction, but sure give him another chance. 
  • mrussel1 said:
    She is calling the coach out?  C'mon with that crap.  The coach has to calm egos.  What was he expected to say?  He walks on eggshells around AB?
    Have you followed any of this? Arians didn't want AB on the team from the start. Probably because he sat and watched Brown be accused of rape, arrested for assaulting a truck driver, live streaming himself berating his baby-mama in front of police and his children, and be completely unprofessional and disrespectful to the Steelers, Raiders, and Patriots (among other things). But Tom Brady wanted him anyway, so Arians had to play ball. Then Arians said if there is one slip up, he's gone. Then of course Brown gets a fake vax card, but Arians still couldn't get rid of him because of Brady. 

    Oh and how about Brady's press conference yesterday? He hopes people are compassionate and empathetic towards Brown. Hilarious. Maybe Tom should take Brown back in his home and help him improve his life WITHOUT the benefit of Brown catching footballs for him. You think Tom is compassionate and empathetic enough to do that? 
    I was impressed with Tom's statement.  It's clear that AB has mental health issues.  Is mental health no longer health?  I support giving people as many chances as you can.  If AB goes to counseling and tries to come back in a year, I'd be cool with someone taking him. Now it's a risk because he is obviously a distraction, but sure give him another chance. 
    Tom knows the rap sheet. And knows of his mental health issues. But mental health issues doesn't give someone an excuse to act like a total asshole. And I'm not talking about walking of the field yesterday or any other football-related stuff. If you followed Brown from his release from the Steelers to his signing with the Bucs, there was MAJOR issues typical of a sociopath that Brady bringing in Tony Robbins to talk to him wasn't going to solve. 
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    I agree they are all trash.  They see AB for one thing.  Touchdowns.  All the noise is just inconveniences that can be overlooked.  He tears off his equipment and runs off the field mid-game?  Its at the point of no return and they pretend to be concerned for the man.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    mrussel1 said:
    She is calling the coach out?  C'mon with that crap.  The coach has to calm egos.  What was he expected to say?  He walks on eggshells around AB?
    Have you followed any of this? Arians didn't want AB on the team from the start. Probably because he sat and watched Brown be accused of rape, arrested for assaulting a truck driver, live streaming himself berating his baby-mama in front of police and his children, and be completely unprofessional and disrespectful to the Steelers, Raiders, and Patriots (among other things). But Tom Brady wanted him anyway, so Arians had to play ball. Then Arians said if there is one slip up, he's gone. Then of course Brown gets a fake vax card, but Arians still couldn't get rid of him because of Brady. 

    Oh and how about Brady's press conference yesterday? He hopes people are compassionate and empathetic towards Brown. Hilarious. Maybe Tom should take Brown back in his home and help him improve his life WITHOUT the benefit of Brown catching footballs for him. You think Tom is compassionate and empathetic enough to do that? 
    I was impressed with Tom's statement.  It's clear that AB has mental health issues.  Is mental health no longer health?  I support giving people as many chances as you can.  If AB goes to counseling and tries to come back in a year, I'd be cool with someone taking him. Now it's a risk because he is obviously a distraction, but sure give him another chance. 
    Tom knows the rap sheet. And knows of his mental health issues. But mental health issues doesn't give someone an excuse to act like a total asshole. And I'm not talking about walking of the field yesterday or any other football-related stuff. If you followed Brown from his release from the Steelers to his signing with the Bucs, there was MAJOR issues typical of a sociopath that Brady bringing in Tony Robbins to talk to him wasn't going to solve. 
    Mental health issues make people act like assholes all the time.  It's pretty common.  So why are we surprised, outraged, shaking our righteous fingers?  I know exactly what AB did to his welcome in PItt, NE, and now TB.  Do people with mental health issues not get more chances?  Is there a limit?  Yes, Tampa was taking a chance, but it was a good chance to take.  He helped them win some big games and AB had his head on (relatively) straight for a while.  Now it's off.  Move on.  Hopefully he gets help and hopefully someone else gives him another chance in the future. 
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451

    Brady and Arians deserve all the criticism in the world for excusing / ignoring / overlooking AB's sociopathic behavior for the sake of winning. 
    Throw "enabling" in there too. They both look ridiculous. But at least Arians is sort of a puppet. Brady did some big time mental gymnastics and decompartmentalizing to justify Brown on the team. 
    100%, Enabling should have been included in my statement. 

    I believe AB is mentally ill. How much of his behavior can be chalked up to that I'm sure I don't know, but the fact is, Brady & Arians & everyone in Tampa knew who they were getting and had no problem overlooking his bullshit for the sake of winning. They deserve to get dragged for that.

    Rapoport reported that AB said his ankle was sore & didn't want to go back in, they said if he didn't go in, he was done, so he left. If there's any truth to that, that's a bad look for Arians. 

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    MayDay10 said:
    I agree they are all trash.  They see AB for one thing.  Touchdowns.  All the noise is just inconveniences that can be overlooked.  He tears off his equipment and runs off the field mid-game?  Its at the point of no return and they pretend to be concerned for the man.
    So they should have really done him a favor as a human being and never gave him a chance?
  • She is calling the coach out?  C'mon with that crap.  The coach has to calm egos.  What was he expected to say?  He walks on eggshells around AB?
    Have you followed any of this? Arians didn't want AB on the team from the start. Probably because he sat and watched Brown be accused of rape, arrested for assaulting a truck driver, live streaming himself berating his baby-mama in front of police and his children, and be completely unprofessional and disrespectful to the Steelers, Raiders, and Patriots (among other things). But Tom Brady wanted him anyway, so Arians had to play ball. Then Arians said if there is one slip up, he's gone. Then of course Brown gets a fake vax card, but Arians still couldn't get rid of him because of Brady. 

    Oh and how about Brady's press conference yesterday? He hopes people are compassionate and empathetic towards Brown. Hilarious. Maybe Tom should take Brown back in his home and help him improve his life WITHOUT the benefit of Brown catching footballs for him. You think Tom is compassionate and empathetic enough to do that? 
    Yes I have followed it.  The coach was handcuffed about AB, we all knew that which is why I questioned her calling out the coach.  Was she following any of this?
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925

    Brady and Arians deserve all the criticism in the world for excusing / ignoring / overlooking AB's sociopathic behavior for the sake of winning. 
    As did Brady and Belichick in 2019.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675

    Brady and Arians deserve all the criticism in the world for excusing / ignoring / overlooking AB's sociopathic behavior for the sake of winning. 
    Throw "enabling" in there too. They both look ridiculous. But at least Arians is sort of a puppet. Brady did some big time mental gymnastics and decompartmentalizing to justify Brown on the team. 
    100%, Enabling should have been included in my statement. 

    I believe AB is mentally ill. How much of his behavior can be chalked up to that I'm sure I don't know, but the fact is, Brady & Arians & everyone in Tampa knew who they were getting and had no problem overlooking his bullshit for the sake of winning. They deserve to get dragged for that.

    Rapoport reported that AB said his ankle was sore & didn't want to go back in, they said if he didn't go in, he was done, so he left. If there's any truth to that, that's a bad look for Arians. 

    We all overlook bullshit for the sake of something.  If you have someone on a team at work that is a problem, you tend to give that person multiple chances if they are a good contributor.  At some point it may become too much, but not at first.  

    AT the end of the day AB walked off the job in the middle of the work day.  Big fucking deal.  Everyone is acting like he was piloting a plane, not one of 6 WR on the roster. 
  • Did anyone notice that no one tried to stop him?  He got side eyed and they let him walk off.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    Poncier said:

    Brady and Arians deserve all the criticism in the world for excusing / ignoring / overlooking AB's sociopathic behavior for the sake of winning. 
    As did Brady and Belichick in 2019.
    Agreed. 

    That Brady was such a bitch after they released him baffled me, as did most of his behavior in 2019. 
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    Did anyone notice that no one tried to stop him?  He got side eyed and they let him walk off.
    Evans appeared to try and stop him at first but gave up.
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  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    She is calling the coach out?  C'mon with that crap.  The coach has to calm egos.  What was he expected to say?  He walks on eggshells around AB?
    Have you followed any of this? Arians didn't want AB on the team from the start. Probably because he sat and watched Brown be accused of rape, arrested for assaulting a truck driver, live streaming himself berating his baby-mama in front of police and his children, and be completely unprofessional and disrespectful to the Steelers, Raiders, and Patriots (among other things). But Tom Brady wanted him anyway, so Arians had to play ball. Then Arians said if there is one slip up, he's gone. Then of course Brown gets a fake vax card, but Arians still couldn't get rid of him because of Brady. 

    Oh and how about Brady's press conference yesterday? He hopes people are compassionate and empathetic towards Brown. Hilarious. Maybe Tom should take Brown back in his home and help him improve his life WITHOUT the benefit of Brown catching footballs for him. You think Tom is compassionate and empathetic enough to do that? 
    I was impressed with Tom's statement.  It's clear that AB has mental health issues.  Is mental health no longer health?  I support giving people as many chances as you can.  If AB goes to counseling and tries to come back in a year, I'd be cool with someone taking him. Now it's a risk because he is obviously a distraction, but sure give him another chance. 
    Tom knows the rap sheet. And knows of his mental health issues. But mental health issues doesn't give someone an excuse to act like a total asshole. And I'm not talking about walking of the field yesterday or any other football-related stuff. If you followed Brown from his release from the Steelers to his signing with the Bucs, there was MAJOR issues typical of a sociopath that Brady bringing in Tony Robbins to talk to him wasn't going to solve. 
    Mental health issues make people act like assholes all the time.  It's pretty common.  So why are we surprised, outraged, shaking our righteous fingers?  I know exactly what AB did to his welcome in PItt, NE, and now TB.  Do people with mental health issues not get more chances?  Is there a limit?  Yes, Tampa was taking a chance, but it was a good chance to take.  He helped them win some big games and AB had his head on (relatively) straight for a while.  Now it's off.  Move on.  Hopefully he gets help and hopefully someone else gives him another chance in the future. 
    That’s like the Republicans that know Trump is a narcissistic and a sociopath saying “Yeah but he got us some court appointments.”

    I was calling AB the Trump of football players back when New England signed him: do everything wrong, be callous towards everyone, and still get your way. Why? Because no matter how despicable you are, there’s someone that could benefit from you. Whether it be Mitch McConnell types with Trump, or Tom Brady types with Brown. 

    And the same way Trump has “needed help” for decades and hasn’t changed a bit, neither will Brown. 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    mrussel1 said:

    Brady and Arians deserve all the criticism in the world for excusing / ignoring / overlooking AB's sociopathic behavior for the sake of winning. 
    Throw "enabling" in there too. They both look ridiculous. But at least Arians is sort of a puppet. Brady did some big time mental gymnastics and decompartmentalizing to justify Brown on the team. 
    100%, Enabling should have been included in my statement. 

    I believe AB is mentally ill. How much of his behavior can be chalked up to that I'm sure I don't know, but the fact is, Brady & Arians & everyone in Tampa knew who they were getting and had no problem overlooking his bullshit for the sake of winning. They deserve to get dragged for that.

    Rapoport reported that AB said his ankle was sore & didn't want to go back in, they said if he didn't go in, he was done, so he left. If there's any truth to that, that's a bad look for Arians. 

    We all overlook bullshit for the sake of something.  If you have someone on a team at work that is a problem, you tend to give that person multiple chances if they are a good contributor.  At some point it may become too much, but not at first. - I don't disagree, but I think we're past the "At some point" stage of your scenario. (let's not forget some of the bullshit being overlooked includes him threatening someone who made sexual assault claims against him and the incident w/ the moving company.) This isn't typical diva bullshit. 

    AT the end of the day AB walked off the job in the middle of the work day.  Big fucking deal.  Everyone is acting like he was piloting a plane, not one of 6 WR on the roster. - according to Rapoport Arians told him then & there he was done with the team... if this is true, he walked off the field after getting fired. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    She is calling the coach out?  C'mon with that crap.  The coach has to calm egos.  What was he expected to say?  He walks on eggshells around AB?
    Have you followed any of this? Arians didn't want AB on the team from the start. Probably because he sat and watched Brown be accused of rape, arrested for assaulting a truck driver, live streaming himself berating his baby-mama in front of police and his children, and be completely unprofessional and disrespectful to the Steelers, Raiders, and Patriots (among other things). But Tom Brady wanted him anyway, so Arians had to play ball. Then Arians said if there is one slip up, he's gone. Then of course Brown gets a fake vax card, but Arians still couldn't get rid of him because of Brady. 

    Oh and how about Brady's press conference yesterday? He hopes people are compassionate and empathetic towards Brown. Hilarious. Maybe Tom should take Brown back in his home and help him improve his life WITHOUT the benefit of Brown catching footballs for him. You think Tom is compassionate and empathetic enough to do that? 
    I was impressed with Tom's statement.  It's clear that AB has mental health issues.  Is mental health no longer health?  I support giving people as many chances as you can.  If AB goes to counseling and tries to come back in a year, I'd be cool with someone taking him. Now it's a risk because he is obviously a distraction, but sure give him another chance. 
    Tom knows the rap sheet. And knows of his mental health issues. But mental health issues doesn't give someone an excuse to act like a total asshole. And I'm not talking about walking of the field yesterday or any other football-related stuff. If you followed Brown from his release from the Steelers to his signing with the Bucs, there was MAJOR issues typical of a sociopath that Brady bringing in Tony Robbins to talk to him wasn't going to solve. 
    Mental health issues make people act like assholes all the time.  It's pretty common.  So why are we surprised, outraged, shaking our righteous fingers?  I know exactly what AB did to his welcome in PItt, NE, and now TB.  Do people with mental health issues not get more chances?  Is there a limit?  Yes, Tampa was taking a chance, but it was a good chance to take.  He helped them win some big games and AB had his head on (relatively) straight for a while.  Now it's off.  Move on.  Hopefully he gets help and hopefully someone else gives him another chance in the future. 
    That’s like the Republicans that know Trump is a narcissistic and a sociopath saying “Yeah but he got us some court appointments.”

    I was calling AB the Trump of football players back when New England signed him: do everything wrong, be callous towards everyone, and still get your way. Why? Because no matter how despicable you are, there’s someone that could benefit from you. Whether it be Mitch McConnell types with Trump, or Tom Brady types with Brown. 

    And the same way Trump has “needed help” for decades and hasn’t changed a bit, neither will Brown. 
    He's playing a football game, he's not the president.  That's what's bothering me about this whole thing.  Have some perspective on what the guy is doing.  If I was managing a Chick Fil-A, I'd probably hire an ex-con that was on parole so long as I felt like he was not a risk to other employees.  I wouldn't vote for him to be president.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    mrussel1 said:

    Brady and Arians deserve all the criticism in the world for excusing / ignoring / overlooking AB's sociopathic behavior for the sake of winning. 
    Throw "enabling" in there too. They both look ridiculous. But at least Arians is sort of a puppet. Brady did some big time mental gymnastics and decompartmentalizing to justify Brown on the team. 
    100%, Enabling should have been included in my statement. 

    I believe AB is mentally ill. How much of his behavior can be chalked up to that I'm sure I don't know, but the fact is, Brady & Arians & everyone in Tampa knew who they were getting and had no problem overlooking his bullshit for the sake of winning. They deserve to get dragged for that.

    Rapoport reported that AB said his ankle was sore & didn't want to go back in, they said if he didn't go in, he was done, so he left. If there's any truth to that, that's a bad look for Arians. 

    We all overlook bullshit for the sake of something.  If you have someone on a team at work that is a problem, you tend to give that person multiple chances if they are a good contributor.  At some point it may become too much, but not at first. - I don't disagree, but I think we're past the "At some point" stage of your scenario. (let's not forget some of the bullshit being overlooked includes him threatening someone who made sexual assault claims against him and the incident w/ the moving company.) This isn't typical diva bullshit. 

    AT the end of the day AB walked off the job in the middle of the work day.  Big fucking deal.  Everyone is acting like he was piloting a plane, not one of 6 WR on the roster. - according to Rapoport Arians told him then & there he was done with the team... if this is true, he walked off the field after getting fired. 
    Fair enough.. he can now file for unemployment.  
  • Poncier said:
    Did anyone notice that no one tried to stop him?  He got side eyed and they let him walk off.
    Evans appeared to try and stop him at first but gave up.
    Someone actually tried?  I did not see that.  All I saw was him taking off his pads and people side eyeing him.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    Poncier said:
    Did anyone notice that no one tried to stop him?  He got side eyed and they let him walk off.
    Evans appeared to try and stop him at first but gave up.
    Someone actually tried?  I did not see that.  All I saw was him taking off his pads and people side eyeing him.
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  • First time I saw this.  Thanks for letting me know that someone tried to stop him.
  • Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    Did anyone notice that no one tried to stop him?  He got side eyed and they let him walk off.
    Evans appeared to try and stop him at first but gave up.
    Someone actually tried?  I did not see that.  All I saw was him taking off his pads and people side eyeing him.
    https://youtu.be/3jwR34BCFvI
    HA!  I just posted that too.  I went looking for it and found this.
  • Player walks off the field mid game = total outrage and everyone associated with him is scum.

    NFL owner has a toxic work place and treats woman like shit for a decade plus, Commish looks the other way, fans yawn and it’s crickets.

    Good to see everyone has their priorities straight. “Integrity of the game.” Yea, sure, right on.
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    She is calling the coach out?  C'mon with that crap.  The coach has to calm egos.  What was he expected to say?  He walks on eggshells around AB?
    Have you followed any of this? Arians didn't want AB on the team from the start. Probably because he sat and watched Brown be accused of rape, arrested for assaulting a truck driver, live streaming himself berating his baby-mama in front of police and his children, and be completely unprofessional and disrespectful to the Steelers, Raiders, and Patriots (among other things). But Tom Brady wanted him anyway, so Arians had to play ball. Then Arians said if there is one slip up, he's gone. Then of course Brown gets a fake vax card, but Arians still couldn't get rid of him because of Brady. 

    Oh and how about Brady's press conference yesterday? He hopes people are compassionate and empathetic towards Brown. Hilarious. Maybe Tom should take Brown back in his home and help him improve his life WITHOUT the benefit of Brown catching footballs for him. You think Tom is compassionate and empathetic enough to do that? 
    I was impressed with Tom's statement.  It's clear that AB has mental health issues.  Is mental health no longer health?  I support giving people as many chances as you can.  If AB goes to counseling and tries to come back in a year, I'd be cool with someone taking him. Now it's a risk because he is obviously a distraction, but sure give him another chance. 
    Tom knows the rap sheet. And knows of his mental health issues. But mental health issues doesn't give someone an excuse to act like a total asshole. And I'm not talking about walking of the field yesterday or any other football-related stuff. If you followed Brown from his release from the Steelers to his signing with the Bucs, there was MAJOR issues typical of a sociopath that Brady bringing in Tony Robbins to talk to him wasn't going to solve. 
    Mental health issues make people act like assholes all the time.  It's pretty common.  So why are we surprised, outraged, shaking our righteous fingers?  I know exactly what AB did to his welcome in PItt, NE, and now TB.  Do people with mental health issues not get more chances?  Is there a limit?  Yes, Tampa was taking a chance, but it was a good chance to take.  He helped them win some big games and AB had his head on (relatively) straight for a while.  Now it's off.  Move on.  Hopefully he gets help and hopefully someone else gives him another chance in the future. 
    That’s like the Republicans that know Trump is a narcissistic and a sociopath saying “Yeah but he got us some court appointments.”

    I was calling AB the Trump of football players back when New England signed him: do everything wrong, be callous towards everyone, and still get your way. Why? Because no matter how despicable you are, there’s someone that could benefit from you. Whether it be Mitch McConnell types with Trump, or Tom Brady types with Brown. 

    And the same way Trump has “needed help” for decades and hasn’t changed a bit, neither will Brown. 
    He's playing a football game, he's not the president.  That's what's bothering me about this whole thing.  Have some perspective on what the guy is doing.  If I was managing a Chick Fil-A, I'd probably hire an ex-con that was on parole so long as I felt like he was not a risk to other employees.  I wouldn't vote for him to be president.  
    I assumed that was going to be your response. I'm just using Trump as the most famous example of someone that is terrible in every way, yet there's people that turn a blind eye to it because he can benefit them. 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
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    Player walks off the field mid game = total outrage and everyone associated with him is scum.

    NFL owner has a toxic work place and treats woman like shit for a decade plus, Commish looks the other way, fans yawn and it’s crickets.

    Good to see everyone has their priorities straight. “Integrity of the game.” Yea, sure, right on.
    Who is outraged here? 
  • Player walks off the field mid game = total outrage and everyone associated with him is scum.

    NFL owner has a toxic work place and treats woman like shit for a decade plus, Commish looks the other way, fans yawn and it’s crickets.

    Good to see everyone has their priorities straight. “Integrity of the game.” Yea, sure, right on.
    Who is outraged here? 
    Read through some of the posts and you tell me.
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