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SmallestOceans

oftenreading said:

SmallestOceans said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The Juggler said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The Juggler said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The Juggler said:

SmallestOceans said:

pjsteelerfan said:

SmallestOceans said:

Congratulations Eagles and Eagles fans, you deserved it. Your team played and coached much better than we did. I don't know why Belichick benched Malcolm Butler, but that decision cost us another championship. Thanks Bill, it's clear now that Brady is the GOat and you are an egotistical narc.

I keep hearing about Malcolm Butler. I know he is a good cornerback. I just never knew he was same class as Deion Sanders,  Charles Woodson, or Darrelle Revis in that he took away a whole half of the field and could single handily change a game. Or Pats fans are looking for an excuse. 

Well he's infinitely better than Johnson Bademosi and Jordan Richards.

You guys had your starting quarterback, though, right? Just checking...

So back up QB is the new gold standard or put down? TB was once a back up QB too. Maybe Folds will have a future as bright as TB’s. Nah.
 

It is when the other Pats fan reaches for the "back up corner back" excuse. Nah.

Pats' secondary had been getting burned all season. Last night was no surprise. Still question why Butler was benched but oh well, it is what it is. On to next season. The off season will be interesting. And the Eagles starters gave up 505 yards, so there is that. 

....aaaaaaand they won.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaagainst a 40 year old quarter back. Barely.
 

Dude, all week you went on and on about how they were going to win. Brady is the best. Was gonna be easy. Now Brady is just a 40 year old qb. Painful man.

Cliffy6745 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The Juggler said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The Juggler said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The Juggler said:

SmallestOceans said:

pjsteelerfan said:

SmallestOceans said:

Congratulations Eagles and Eagles fans, you deserved it. Your team played and coached much better than we did. I don't know why Belichick benched Malcolm Butler, but that decision cost us another championship. Thanks Bill, it's clear now that Brady is the GOat and you are an egotistical narc.

I keep hearing about Malcolm Butler. I know he is a good cornerback. I just never knew he was same class as Deion Sanders,  Charles Woodson, or Darrelle Revis in that he took away a whole half of the field and could single handily change a game. Or Pats fans are looking for an excuse. 

Well he's infinitely better than Johnson Bademosi and Jordan Richards.

You guys had your starting quarterback, though, right? Just checking...

So back up QB is the new gold standard or put down? TB was once a back up QB too. Maybe Folds will have a future as bright as TB’s. Nah.
 

It is when the other Pats fan reaches for the "back up corner back" excuse. Nah.

Pats' secondary had been getting burned all season. Last night was no surprise. Still question why Butler was benched but oh well, it is what it is. On to next season. The off season will be interesting. And the Eagles starters gave up 505 yards, so there is that. 

....aaaaaaand they won.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaagainst a 40 year old quarter back. Barely.
 

Dude, all week you went on and on about how they were going to win. Brady is the best. Was gonna be easy. Now Brady is just a 40 year old qb. Painful man.

Eli the fruitcake, painful.
https://youtu.be/6oKUTOLSeMM

If you mean the commercial, that was actually pretty funny. And if you're saying something else, with that "fruitcake" comment, then that's pretty pathetic.

It's a joke, chill

The Juggler

Thought that Eli commercial was hilarious

HesCalledDyer

So apparently Malcolm Bulter didn't play cuz he missed curfew and had weed on him.  Ya know, god forbid ya have a little fun and stay out late.  But sure, beat the shit out of your fiancee on camera, totally fuckin fine. The NFL sucks.

SmallestOceans

HesCalledDyer said:

So apparently Malcolm Bulter didn't play cuz he missed curfew and had weed on him.  Ya know, god forbid ya have a little fun and stay out late.  But sure, beat the shit out of your fiancee on camera, totally fucking fi ne. The NFL sucks.

It really does. The XFL might actually be successful at this point. They'll allow weed, steroids, cocaine, hookers, concussion inducing hits, no instant replay, a catch to be a catch. America loves that shit. The fact  that the refs had to spend 5 minutes to review that final Ertz touchdown. I mean he CAUGHT the ball at the 6 yrd line, took three big steps, reached out for the goaline, broke the plane. 

While we're at it, Bill Belichick is an ass. I hope Kraft dumps him at this point. Pats have been better off without him for years, he's cost them too many championships. If we're looking to give credit for the Pats dynasty it's mostly due to Tom Brady. 

Thoughts_Arrive

Seeing I don't know much about American football, can someone tell me how the players know which play to make after each down?
I see the coaches have earphones and a mic. Do they communicate directly to the players when they are on the field, like do the players have earpieces so they can hear? If not, who are the coaches talking to then?

MayDay10

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Seeing I don't know much about American football, can someone tell me how the players know which play to make after each down?
I see the coaches have earphones and a mic. Do they communicate directly to the players when they are on the field, like do the players have earpieces so they can hear? If not, who are the coaches talking to then?

typically, the offensive coach will call the plays and is mic-ed into the qb's helmet.  the qb communicates to the other players on what the call is.  the qb can also adjust the play when they line up if he sees something in the defense.  the only one who can hear the coaches are the qb and the patriots

Thoughts_Arrive

MayDay10 said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Seeing I don't know much about American football, can someone tell me how the players know which play to make after each down?
I see the coaches have earphones and a mic. Do they communicate directly to the players when they are on the field, like do the players have earpieces so they can hear? If not, who are the coaches talking to then?

typically, the offensive coach will call the plays and is mic-ed into the qb's helmet.  the qb communicates to the other players on what the call is.  the qb can also adjust the play when they line up if he sees something in the defense.  the only one who can hear the coaches are the qb and the patriots

Thank you for explaining!
"and the patriots"?

JK_Livin

SmallestOceans said:

I feel better about the Pats chances of winning as the week moves along. C'mon now...it's Brady and Belichick against who? There's not one person on the other side of the ball that scares me. The two weeks off benefits the Pats getting Gronk back. It also gives them more time to prepare for the Eagles' gimmicky run/pass system. Pats O line has been playing well lately. They'll get the double team on Cox, run some 5 wide, no huddle. Dink and dunk, hit the Rbs, catch the Eagles front substituting, tire them out. Schwartz will make some questionable calls. Eagles are gonna get overaggresive, Pats will hit some big plays on screens. Go ahead lineup Jenkins on Gronk, and Brady will expose their secondary. Their secondary sucks. Look for Brady to connect with Cooks
on a 60 yard TD in the 2nd/3rd quarter. 

I heard that Peterson defers to his math guys in the booth for 4th down calls? That is laughable, especially in the game where you need to trust your intuition the most. The Eagles might score some points early but Pats will make the necessary adjustments. Coaching is going to be a big factor in this game. The Eagles are a solid team, but they're not ready for a team that is this well coached and in this big of a spot. They'll make it a game, but will find a way to vomit
all over themselves. History repeats itself, Pats win 31-23 for championship number six.

Sorry, had to.
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Loved the Eli and ODB commercial. 

Ledbetterman10

SmallestOceans said:

While we're at it, Bill Belichick is an ass. I hope Kraft dumps him at this point. Pats have been better off without him for years, he's cost them too many championships.

I'm quoting this but I don't really have anything to say in response. The insanity of this statement just jumped off the screen at me.

Cliffy6745

Pats fans seem to be handling this well 

MayDay10

Thoughts_Arrive said:

MayDay10 said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Seeing I don't know much about American football, can someone tell me how the players know which play to make after each down?
I see the coaches have earphones and a mic. Do they communicate directly to the players when they are on the field, like do the players have earpieces so they can hear? If not, who are the coaches talking to then?

typically, the offensive coach will call the plays and is mic-ed into the qb's helmet.  the qb communicates to the other players on what the call is.  the qb can also adjust the play when they line up if he sees something in the defense.  the only one who can hear the coaches are the qb and the patriots

Thank you for explaining!
"and the patriots"?

lol, it was just a shot at them.  they have been accused in the past of listening in/cutting communications at their home stadium, etc...  

HughFreakingDillon

Thoughts_Arrive said:

tbergs said:

KC138045 said:

tbergs said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Pats played well -- heck, both teams were great on offense.  There was almost no defense to speak of.  How many punts?  Is that a record low #?

True. I think there was only 1 punt and 1 turnover. Very few penalties. One of the cleanest games you could hope for with the huge national audience. The NFL has to be happy with pretty much everything that game offered, including half-time with JT.

I have to admit that I don't really "get" music like Timberlake's but I don't see what was good about that performance. Just seemed like a bunch of lip-synching (for the most part) and dancing. I also didn't recognize a single song so that didn't help.

I honestly don't think he lip synced at all. That was him. He's a performer and puts on a good show. Can't say I'm his #1 fan, but I usually like at least a few tracks off of each his albums. I just love his humor. The guy has done some great SNL skits.

I thought it was pretty obvious he was lip syncing which I think there always is during the SB Halftime show..  Several times where his voice was singing but the mic was no where near his mouth.  The performance as a whole seemed like a jumbled mess.

Hmm, I'll have to watch it again I guess. I mean, I know the backing music includes most of the song when Pop/Hip-Hop artists perfom live like that, but every time I heard his voice out front on the song it was clearly live. I didn't see him mouthing lyrics he didn't sing.

Jumbled mess? I am surprised to hear some say that. I was impressed with how well they transitioned to all the different stages and how he was able to be where he needed to be among that crowd of dancers, band players, fans and everything else. I didn't see any major flaws with the choreography or sets. It looked like it would have been hell to plan that and execute it so well, but to each their own. I still love a great straight forward rock concert  

I notices the "fans?" jumping up and down when JT was on the stage.
Was thinking, are they actual fans, have they been hired to just jump up and down and go crazy so that it looks good on TV?
Just didn't seem that his songs would make someone jump like they are at a punk rock show.

I noticed one guy in the "jumping crowd" ended up on stage as a dancer, so yeah, those people were not fans, they were hired dancers. 

Jason P

Gronk gets his brain scrambled, loses the SB, and then goes home to discover the local populous robbed his home. New England Strong. 

Poncier

Jearlpam0925 said:

The Juggler said:

SmallestOceans said:

pjsteelerfan said:

SmallestOceans said:

Congratulations Eagles and Eagles fans, you deserved it. Your team played and coached much better than we did. I don't know why Belichick benched Malcolm Butler, but that decision cost us another championship. Thanks Bill, it's clear now that Brady is the GOat and you are an egotistical narc.

I keep hearing about Malcolm Butler. I know he is a good cornerback. I just never knew he was same class as Deion Sanders,  Charles Woodson, or Darrelle Revis in that he took away a whole half of the field and could single handily change a game. Or Pats fans are looking for an excuse. 

Well he's infinitely better than Johnson Bademosi and Jordan Richards.

You guys had your starting quarterback, though, right? Just checking...

I believe they had their starting MLB and LT as well. No big deal though.

Well Dont'a Hightower, the Pats' best linebacker by far has been out for most of the season and is on IR. 

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Players are starting to sound off on Bill's power trip (benching Butler). The team was shaken as a result of the decision. The timing of it was just enough for the team to lose at last part of their focus.

I still sit here puzzled over that move. I haven't seen the official release where it was a confirmed curfew and dope related issue, but even if it was... c'mon, man. Dope? It's legal in any progressive country or state. Late? This isn't high school, Bill.

If Butler blew an assignment or two during the game- proving the 'breaches' impacted his performance... then sit him down. These are grown men and professionals (most of them anyways).

* And Bill was nothing in Cleveland. I'll acknowledge him as one of the best coaches of all time, but it's fair to say he's been in good company and been the beneficiary of luck as well as being accomplished.

HughFreakingDillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Players are starting to sound off on Bill's power trip (benching Butler). The team was shaken as a result of the decision. The timing of it was just enough for the team to lose at last part of their focus.

I still sit here puzzled over that move. I haven't seen the official release where it was a confirmed curfew and dope related issue, but even if it was... c'mon, man. Dope? It's legal in any progressive country or state. Late? This isn't high school, Bill.

If Butler blew an assignment or two during the game- proving the 'breaches' impacted his performance... then sit him down. These are grown men and professionals (most of them anyways).

* And Bill was nothing in Cleveland. I'll acknowledge him as one of the best coaches of all time, but it's fair to say he's been in good company and been the beneficiary of luck as well as being accomplished.

and the SB is not the time to make an example or discipline. 

The Juggler

SmallestOceans said:

HesCalledDyer said:

So apparently Malcolm Bulter didn't play cuz he missed curfew and had weed on him.  Ya know, god forbid ya have a little fun and stay out late.  But sure, beat the shit out of your fiancee on camera, totally fucking fi ne. The NFL sucks.

It really does. The XFL might actually be successful at this point. They'll allow weed, steroids, cocaine, hookers, concussion inducing hits, no instant replay, a catch to be a catch. America loves that shit. The fact  that the refs had to spend 5 minutes to review that final Ertz touchdown. I mean he CAUGHT the ball at the 6 yrd line, took three big steps, reached out for the goaline, broke the plane. 

While we're at it, Bill Belichick is an ass. I hope Kraft dumps him at this point. Pats have been better off without him for years, he's cost them too many championships. If we're looking to give credit for the Pats dynasty it's mostly due to Tom Brady. 

For people who complained at fans for wanting Andy Reid gone after 14 years of not winning a championship, please refer this post. Thank you. 

SmallestOceans

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Players are starting to sound off on Bill's power trip (benching Butler). The team was shaken as a result of the decision. The timing of it was just enough for the team to lose at last part of their focus.

I still sit here puzzled over that move. I haven't seen the official release where it was a confirmed curfew and dope related issue, but even if it was... c'mon, man. Dope? It's legal in any progressive country or state. Late? This isn't high school, Bill.

If Butler blew an assignment or two during the game- proving the 'breaches' impacted his performance... then sit him down. These are grown men and professionals (most of them anyways).

* And Bill was nothing in Cleveland. I'll acknowledge him as one of the best coaches of all time, but it's fair to say he's been in good company and been the beneficiary of luck as well as being accomplished.

Yep, there's a good chance he loses the players in the locker room.

DewieCox

Can’t praise him over and over and over and over for being a hardass AND completely throw him under the bus when he makes a call that had a fairly minor impact on the game. If the other players were rattled by it that’s on them, not Billy. 

Poncier

SmallestOceans said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Players are starting to sound off on Bill's power trip (benching Butler). The team was shaken as a result of the decision. The timing of it was just enough for the team to lose at last part of their focus.

I still sit here puzzled over that move. I haven't seen the official release where it was a confirmed curfew and dope related issue, but even if it was... c'mon, man. Dope? It's legal in any progressive country or state. Late? This isn't high school, Bill.

If Butler blew an assignment or two during the game- proving the 'breaches' impacted his performance... then sit him down. These are grown men and professionals (most of them anyways).

* And Bill was nothing in Cleveland. I'll acknowledge him as one of the best coaches of all time, but it's fair to say he's been in good company and been the beneficiary of luck as well as being accomplished.

Yep, there's a good chance he loses the players in the locker room.

Not likely.
Butler is gone obviously, this will be forgotten once OTA's start and it will be business as usual. There'll be plenty of roster turnover and the returning players will have put this all behind them.