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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    Jesus. The lawyer representing those women against Watson just said they have 12 women sign contracts with the firm to sue, and there's like 10 more they're talking to. 
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,274
    edited March 2021
    The 49ers just updated their trade offer for Watson from Bosa and 3 #1 draft picks to this:
    Houston sends Watson to SF
    Houston pays his entire salary
    SF sends Houston nothing

    :lol:  

    edit -- I don't want Watson on any team I root for unless he is completely cleared of this stuff.  Dude went from having a great image to being toxic in a week.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,928
    Jesus. The lawyer representing those women against Watson just said they have 12 women sign contracts with the firm to sue, and there's like 10 more they're talking to. 
    The whole thing is crazy.
    I mean if there's legit 20+ cases, how did none of it come out before and it all comes out at once.
    Hell of a talent, possibly going to complete waste.
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,042
    The 49ers just updated their trade offer for Watson from Bosa and 3 #1 draft picks to this:
    Houston sends Watson to SF
    Houston pays his entire salary
    SF sends Houston nothing

    :lol:  

    edit -- I don't want Watson on any team I root for unless he is completely cleared of this stuff.  Dude went from having a great image to being toxic in a week.
    I mean I've enjoyed the conspiracies that this is all planted by Houston. But the logical side of that is it sounds like they're willing to trade him. If that's the case why hurt your return then? It's silly.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,928
    Yeah no way the Texans would plant this...it takes his value from 4 first rounders to a bag of kicking tees.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    If Houston wasn’t such a dumpster fire I would totally out this past them but with Watson willing to sit out it totally makes since to make him worthless to every other team and introduce a situation where they could likely void his contract. 
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,928
    If so, its Jack Easterby who's behind it for sure.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,175
    Poncier said:
    Yeah when its one accusation, you might be able to say it untrue or a misunderstanding or whatever, but now that there's supposedly 6 accusations and 3 lawsuits, much like Handy Andy Cuomo, too much smoke for there not to be any fire.
    I think it’s like 16 lawsuits now. Dude thought he was entitled to a happy ending with every massage.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    Poncier said:
    If so, its Jack Easterby who's behind it for sure.
    Easterby’s a weirdo, but I simply can’t believe a team would set up a player like this. The risk vs reward doesn’t favor the franchise if the truth was ever exposed. 
  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,859
    The 49ers just updated their trade offer for Watson from Bosa and 3 #1 draft picks to this:
    Houston sends Watson to SF
    Houston pays his entire salary
    SF sends Houston nothing

    :lol:  

    edit -- I don't want Watson on any team I root for unless he is completely cleared of this stuff.  Dude went from having a great image to being toxic in a week.
    When Watson was available in the draft and the 49ers decided that Brian Hoyer at QB and picking Soloman Thomas in the first round was the better option, it blew me away. I was intrigued by the idea of getting Watson now, but not by trading away too much. Now, I think they would be crazy to trade for him until all of this gets figured out.   
  • Yeah before this happened I would have loved (loved!) to have Watson on the team, although I didn't like the idea of what it might take to get him.
    Now, he is ☢️ until this shit is ironed out.  I don't see how he comes out of any of this looking like he isn't a freak who is way out of line with women, at best, and at worst a rapist, or somewhere in between.
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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,859
    Yeah before this happened I would have loved (loved!) to have Watson on the team, although I didn't like the idea of what it might take to get him.
    Now, he is ☢️ until this shit is ironed out.  I don't see how he comes out of any of this looking like he isn't a freak who is way out of line with women, at best, and at worst a rapist, or somewhere in between.
    I am a big Jimmy G fan and think if he stays healthy, they have to be considered a contender in the NFC. However, based on his injury history it is a capital I and a capital F.
  • I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

    When pressured he throws picks.  
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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,859
    I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

    When pressured he throws picks.  
    The other throws that could be picks but are dropped will make your heart stop too. I am a big fan of when in doubt, chuck it to a cheerleader and move onto the next play. 
  • I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

    When pressured he throws picks.  
    The other throws that could be picks but are dropped will make your heart stop too. I am a big fan of when in doubt, chuck it to a cheerleader and move onto the next play. 

    We are in agreement on most things 49ers, it would seem!
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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,859
    I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

    When pressured he throws picks.  
    The other throws that could be picks but are dropped will make your heart stop too. I am a big fan of when in doubt, chuck it to a cheerleader and move onto the next play. 

    We are in agreement on most things 49ers, it would seem!
    Seems so. I grew up in the Bay Area and the first memory I have of watching them was Jim Plunkett being the QB. I would have been still been in elementary school at the time. Yes, I am old.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,676
    I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

    When pressured he throws picks.  
    Honestly,  isn't this the case for everyone?
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,274
    edited March 2021
    mrussel1 said:
    I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

    When pressured he throws picks.  
    Honestly,  isn't this the case for everyone?

    In the most broad sense of the statement, perhaps.  I can see that. 
    However, there are top level QBs that can still make things work with pressure. 
    JimmyG is not one of those, he panics and throws into coverage.  (I'm also not talking about people hitting him and pulling on him -- more, just the pocket being tight/collapsing.) 

    With blocking there are still many QBs that make idiotic reads, under or over throw receivers with regularity.  QBs that throw inexplicable picks. JimmyG would not be one of those guys.   He would be rock solid, money man, if that was the case more of the time. 


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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC Posts: 2,672
    mrussel1 said:
    I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

    When pressured he throws picks.  
    Honestly,  isn't this the case for everyone?
    Yeah that's one cliche that I always laugh at when an "analyst" says, he's a different quarterback when he has pressure in his face.  No shit...I can vouch for Patrick Mahomes, see Super Bowl 55.

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,676
    mrussel1 said:
    I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

    When pressured he throws picks.  
    Honestly,  isn't this the case for everyone?

    In the most broad sense of the statement, perhaps.  I can see that. 
    However, there are top level QBs that can still make things work with pressure. 
    JimmyG is not one of those, he panics and throws into coverage.  (I'm also not talking about people hitting him and pulling on him -- more, just the pocket being tight/collapsing.) 

    With blocking there are still many QBs that make idiotic reads, under or over throw receivers with regularity.  QBs that throw inexplicable picks. JimmyG would not be one of those guys.   He would be rock solid, money man, if that was the case more of the time. 


    I agree some are better than others,  but no one is good without a good line. 
  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

    When pressured he throws picks.  
    Honestly,  isn't this the case for everyone?

    In the most broad sense of the statement, perhaps.  I can see that. 
    However, there are top level QBs that can still make things work with pressure. 
    JimmyG is not one of those, he panics and throws into coverage.  (I'm also not talking about people hitting him and pulling on him -- more, just the pocket being tight/collapsing.) 

    With blocking there are still many QBs that make idiotic reads, under or over throw receivers with regularity.  QBs that throw inexplicable picks. JimmyG would not be one of those guys.   He would be rock solid, money man, if that was the case more of the time. 


    I agree some are better than others,  but no one is good without a good line. 
    Tom Brady and Big Ben both played well behind many poor OLs.  
    You are nitpicking an opinion I shared on JimmyG, who I've watched pretty much every game he has played for the Niners.  
    Have you?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,676
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

    When pressured he throws picks.  
    Honestly,  isn't this the case for everyone?

    In the most broad sense of the statement, perhaps.  I can see that. 
    However, there are top level QBs that can still make things work with pressure. 
    JimmyG is not one of those, he panics and throws into coverage.  (I'm also not talking about people hitting him and pulling on him -- more, just the pocket being tight/collapsing.) 

    With blocking there are still many QBs that make idiotic reads, under or over throw receivers with regularity.  QBs that throw inexplicable picks. JimmyG would not be one of those guys.   He would be rock solid, money man, if that was the case more of the time. 


    I agree some are better than others,  but no one is good without a good line. 
    Tom Brady and Big Ben both played well behind many poor OLs.  
    You are nitpicking an opinion I shared on JimmyG, who I've watched pretty much every game he has played for the Niners.  
    Have you?
    I'm not nitpicking your analysis of Jimmy G.  I have no opinion of him.  I know Baker looked like shit when our line was shit, but this past year we had one of the best lines in football and suddenly he is the second coming of Bernie Kosar.  
  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I think he is a totally average qh without blocking.  If he has blocking he is well above average, just outside the group of elite guys.

    When pressured he throws picks.  
    Honestly,  isn't this the case for everyone?

    In the most broad sense of the statement, perhaps.  I can see that. 
    However, there are top level QBs that can still make things work with pressure. 
    JimmyG is not one of those, he panics and throws into coverage.  (I'm also not talking about people hitting him and pulling on him -- more, just the pocket being tight/collapsing.) 

    With blocking there are still many QBs that make idiotic reads, under or over throw receivers with regularity.  QBs that throw inexplicable picks. JimmyG would not be one of those guys.   He would be rock solid, money man, if that was the case more of the time. 


    I agree some are better than others,  but no one is good without a good line. 
    Tom Brady and Big Ben both played well behind many poor OLs.  
    You are nitpicking an opinion I shared on JimmyG, who I've watched pretty much every game he has played for the Niners.  
    Have you?
    I'm not nitpicking your analysis of Jimmy G.  I have no opinion of him.  I know Baker looked like shit when our line was shit, but this past year we had one of the best lines in football and suddenly he is the second coming of Bernie Kosar.  

    OK.  I stand behind my opinion.

    I don't know much about Baker, except that I dislike his commercials and he cannot outrun cops when he is hammered, like most of us.

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Regarding the Watson stuff....I guess I am not following very closely, but why would these women not go to the police first?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,605
    Regarding the Watson stuff....I guess I am not following very closely, but why would these women not go to the police first?

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,928
    49ers just gave a shit ton to the Dolphins to move from 12 to 3, obviously targeting a QB.
    Belichick's master plan to get Jimmy G back is proceeding just as he has foreseen.


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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    Poncier said:
    49ers just gave a shit ton to the Dolphins to move from 12 to 3, obviously targeting a QB.
    Belichick's master plan to get Jimmy G back is proceeding just as he has foreseen.



     :D 
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,928
    And now Miami flips #12 and a 2022 first rounder (plus a late round pick swap) to Philly for #6.
    Someone in Miami knows what they are doing.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    Poncier said:
    And now Miami flips #12 and a 2022 first rounder (plus a late round pick swap) to Philly for #6.
    Someone in Miami knows what they are doing.
    Well it's about Goddamn time. 
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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,859
    The 49ers draft just got really interesting! There is no way they moved up to 3 to pick anyone but Jimmy's replacement. Even if they keep him another year, his future is with another team.
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