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tempo_n_groove

JK_Livin said:

tempo_n_groove said:

JK_Livin said:

Thug only means one thing. Use the word you really want to use.

For the record I always viewed the term "thug" as a bully/asshole and never as a black person so maybe y'all are using it wrong and are the real racists?

I don't use it at all.

thug

THəɡ/

noun

1. 1.

   a violent person, especially a criminal.

   synonyms:

   ruffian, hooligan, vandal, hoodlum, gangster, villain, criminal;

SmallestOceans

Jearlpam0925 said:

SmallestOceans said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

dankind said:

SmallestOceans said:

Good analysis. I mean, they had us on the ropes in the first half but got way too conservative in the 2nd half. You're not going to beat the Pats playing don't fuck it up game. Bortles had that one great throw on the right sideline in the 1st half for 30 yards or so. Other than that, the Jacksonville coaches were horrified of the idea of Bortles throwing a football over 10-15 yards. You knew the Jags were going to have to force 2-3 turnovers to have a chance. They came close, but just couldn't do it.

The Gronk hit was clearly premeditated, the safety should have been thrown out the game, and that should be about a $100k fine. They're a bunch of unlikeable thugs, and I couldn't be happier that they're headed home to their Jacksonville ghettos while listening to their Lil Wayne and T-Pain. Happy trails. 

They'll be a decent team if they can get an Eli Manning/Joe Flacco type guy.

Spoken like a true Masshole. #MAGA

Well said - my god this is some racist ass shit right here. Like staring at a unicorn. Wow.

Just amazing.

That's not racist. Racists use racial slurs, riot, commit hate crimes and such, i'm not a racist. I'm just passionate about my team and I tell it how it is. Jags were an extremely dirty team and there's a whole lot of people that feel the same way. Try a little foresight, you don't think the players in that locker room weren't amped up before the game about taking out a Brady or Gronk? Because I think they were.

Thug = Black NFL player, who listens to rap, and apparently lives in a ghetto. Thug = black person (most likely an NFL football player = rap music = ghetto.

Yeah, I fucking got it, straight shooter.

Don't think you're gonna find "black man" anywhere near the definition of thug in a Merriam Webster dictionary. Could be white/black/yellow/red/blue/green. You might want to look up Barry Church's long resumee of illegal hits
and fines. I understand that everything is so pussified nowadays, but c'mon. 


Moving on...

The Juggler

SmallestOceans said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SmallestOceans said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

dankind said:

SmallestOceans said:

Good analysis. I mean, they had us on the ropes in the first half but got way too conservative in the 2nd half. You're not going to beat the Pats playing don't fuck it up game. Bortles had that one great throw on the right sideline in the 1st half for 30 yards or so. Other than that, the Jacksonville coaches were horrified of the idea of Bortles throwing a football over 10-15 yards. You knew the Jags were going to have to force 2-3 turnovers to have a chance. They came close, but just couldn't do it.

The Gronk hit was clearly premeditated, the safety should have been thrown out the game, and that should be about a $100k fine. They're a bunch of unlikeable thugs, and I couldn't be happier that they're headed home to their Jacksonville ghettos while listening to their Lil Wayne and T-Pain. Happy trails. 

They'll be a decent team if they can get an Eli Manning/Joe Flacco type guy.

Spoken like a true Masshole. #MAGA

Well said - my god this is some racist ass shit right here. Like staring at a unicorn. Wow.

Just amazing.

That's not racist. Racists use racial slurs, riot, commit hate crimes and such, i'm not a racist. I'm just passionate about my team and I tell it how it is. Jags were an extremely dirty team and there's a whole lot of people that feel the same way. Try a little foresight, you don't think the players in that locker room weren't amped up before the game about taking out a Brady or Gronk? Because I think they were.

Thug = Black NFL player, who listens to rap, and apparently lives in a ghetto. Thug = black person (most likely an NFL football player = rap music = ghetto.

Yeah, I fucking got it, straight shooter.

Don't think you're gonna find "black man" anywhere near the definition of thug in a Merriam Webster dictionary. Could be white/black/yellow/red/blue/green. You might want to look up Barry Church's long resumee of illegal hits
and fines. I understand that everything is so pussified nowadays, but c'mon. 


Moving on...

Your post speaks for itself.

Go Birds.

dankind

Y'all claiming M-W (a fixed reference I utilize every working hour of every working day as an editor, btw) as your defense regarding the word "thug" are either willfully ignorant or have just been revived from a coma after several years. 

Welome to 2018: https://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403362626/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug; https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/04/thug/391682/; http://www.ebony.com/news-views/thug-is-the-new-n-word-504#axzz5587oX0Od

Anyway, this has been fun. I don't even watch NFL games.

JK_Livin

The Juggler said:

SmallestOceans said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SmallestOceans said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

dankind said:

SmallestOceans said:

Good analysis. I mean, they had us on the ropes in the first half but got way too conservative in the 2nd half. You're not going to beat the Pats playing don't fuck it up game. Bortles had that one great throw on the right sideline in the 1st half for 30 yards or so. Other than that, the Jacksonville coaches were horrified of the idea of Bortles throwing a football over 10-15 yards. You knew the Jags were going to have to force 2-3 turnovers to have a chance. They came close, but just couldn't do it.

The Gronk hit was clearly premeditated, the safety should have been thrown out the game, and that should be about a $100k fine. They're a bunch of unlikeable thugs, and I couldn't be happier that they're headed home to their Jacksonville ghettos while listening to their Lil Wayne and T-Pain. Happy trails. 

They'll be a decent team if they can get an Eli Manning/Joe Flacco type guy.

Spoken like a true Masshole. #MAGA

Well said - my god this is some racist ass shit right here. Like staring at a unicorn. Wow.

Just amazing.

That's not racist. Racists use racial slurs, riot, commit hate crimes and such, i'm not a racist. I'm just passionate about my team and I tell it how it is. Jags were an extremely dirty team and there's a whole lot of people that feel the same way. Try a little foresight, you don't think the players in that locker room weren't amped up before the game about taking out a Brady or Gronk? Because I think they were.

Thug = Black NFL player, who listens to rap, and apparently lives in a ghetto. Thug = black person (most likely an NFL football player = rap music = ghetto.

Yeah, I fucking got it, straight shooter.

Don't think you're gonna find "black man" anywhere near the definition of thug in a Merriam Webster dictionary. Could be white/black/yellow/red/blue/green. You might want to look up Barry Church's long resumee of illegal hits
and fines. I understand that everything is so pussified nowadays, but c'mon. 


Moving on...

Your post speaks for itself.

Go Birds.

FNA
Go Birds!

SmallestOceans

*Thread needs music...
https://youtu.be/9YL1_PilDaQ

tempo_n_groove

dankind said:

Y'all claiming M-W (a fixed reference I utilize every working hour of every working day as an editor, btw) as your defense regarding the word "thug" are either willfully ignorant or have just been revived from a coma after several years. 

Welome to 2018: https://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403362626/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug; https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/04/thug/391682/; http://www.ebony.com/news-views/thug-is-the-new-n-word-504#axzz5587oX0Od

Anyway, this has been fun. I don't even watch NFL games.

How a term in India for a murderer came to represent an African-american in modern times is beyond me.For years Thug was a ruffian asshole, loudmouth.  I'm still trying to figure out how that term became racist...  I know what some people would like for it to mean but it really is dumb...

dankind

tempo_n_groove said:

dankind said:

Y'all claiming M-W (a fixed reference I utilize every working hour of every working day as an editor, btw) as your defense regarding the word "thug" are either willfully ignorant or have just been revived from a coma after several years. 

Welome to 2018: https://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403362626/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug; https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/04/thug/391682/; http://www.ebony.com/news-views/thug-is-the-new-n-word-504#axzz5587oX0Od

Anyway, this has been fun. I don't even watch NFL games.

How a term in India for a murderer came to represent an African-american in modern times is beyond me.For years Thug was a ruffian asshole, loudmouth.  I'm still trying to figure out how that term became racist...  I know what some people would like for it to mean but it really is dumb...

It is what it is. Language is constantly evolving with the zeitgeist. Dictionaries are generally at least a decade behind.

tempo_n_groove

dankind said:

tempo_n_groove said:

dankind said:

Y'all claiming M-W (a fixed reference I utilize every working hour of every working day as an editor, btw) as your defense regarding the word "thug" are either willfully ignorant or have just been revived from a coma after several years. 

Welome to 2018: https://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403362626/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug; https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/04/thug/391682/; http://www.ebony.com/news-views/thug-is-the-new-n-word-504#axzz5587oX0Od

Anyway, this has been fun. I don't even watch NFL games.

How a term in India for a murderer came to represent an African-american in modern times is beyond me.For years Thug was a ruffian asshole, loudmouth.  I'm still trying to figure out how that term became racist...  I know what some people would like for it to mean but it really is dumb...

It is what it is. Language is constantly evolving with the zeitgeist. Dictionaries are generally at least a decade behind.

While we are on the subject # is a pound sign dammit!!!

Thread integrity: Go Brady bump!

HesCalledDyer

The term "thug" became racist when people continually started using it to mean "big, scary black man who probably commits crime."

As for SmallestOceans, sure, you won't find the words "black man" in the M-W definition, but what you will find in your exclamation are other words commonly used in context of racial sleights, such as "ghetto" or mentioning rappers names. Rappers who just happen to be black.

So yeah, it's a pretty racist thing to say.  Just be aware of that and move on from it.

jeffbr

tempo_n_groove said:

dankind said:

Y'all claiming M-W (a fixed reference I utilize every working hour of every working day as an editor, btw) as your defense regarding the word "thug" are either willfully ignorant or have just been revived from a coma after several years. 

Welome to 2018: https://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403362626/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug; https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/04/thug/391682/; http://www.ebony.com/news-views/thug-is-the-new-n-word-504#axzz5587oX0Od

Anyway, this has been fun. I don't even watch NFL games.

How a term in India for a murderer came to represent an African-american in modern times is beyond me.For years Thug was a ruffian asshole, loudmouth.  I'm still trying to figure out how that term became racist...  I know what some people would like for it to mean but it really is dumb...

Thank Tupac.  NPR or Ebony claiming thug is a racist word doesn't make it so. It certainly can be, and is frequently used that way, but it is not exclusively racist. Context is everything. The word 'boy' can be a very highly charged, and unacceptably racist word when used in certain contexts, but the word 'boy' is not racist.  Do a search on "thug" here and you'll see plenty of AMT threads where this topic has been re-hashed countless times.

Cliffy6745

jeffbr said:

tempo_n_groove said:

dankind said:

Y'all claiming M-W (a fixed reference I utilize every working hour of every working day as an editor, btw) as your defense regarding the word "thug" are either willfully ignorant or have just been revived from a coma after several years. 

Welome to 2018: https://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403362626/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug; https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/04/thug/391682/; http://www.ebony.com/news-views/thug-is-the-new-n-word-504#axzz5587oX0Od

Anyway, this has been fun. I don't even watch NFL games.

How a term in India for a murderer came to represent an African-american in modern times is beyond me.For years Thug was a ruffian asshole, loudmouth.  I'm still trying to figure out how that term became racist...  I know what some people would like for it to mean but it really is dumb...

Thank Tupac.  NPR or Ebony claiming thug is a racist word doesn't make it so. It certainly can be, and is frequently used that way, but it is not exclusively racist. Context is everything. The word 'boy' can be a very highly charged, and unacceptably racist word when used in certain contexts, but the word 'boy' is not racist.  Do a search on "thug" here and you'll see plenty of AMT threads where this topic has been re-hashed countless times.

You mean context like this...

They're a bunch of unlikeable thugs, and I couldn't be happier that they're headed home to their Jacksonville ghettos while listening to their Lil Wayne and T-Pain

jeffbr

Cliffy6745 said:

jeffbr said:

tempo_n_groove said:

dankind said:

Y'all claiming M-W (a fixed reference I utilize every working hour of every working day as an editor, btw) as your defense regarding the word "thug" are either willfully ignorant or have just been revived from a coma after several years. 

Welome to 2018: https://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403362626/the-racially-charged-meaning-behind-the-word-thug; https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/04/thug/391682/; http://www.ebony.com/news-views/thug-is-the-new-n-word-504#axzz5587oX0Od

Anyway, this has been fun. I don't even watch NFL games.

How a term in India for a murderer came to represent an African-american in modern times is beyond me.For years Thug was a ruffian asshole, loudmouth.  I'm still trying to figure out how that term became racist...  I know what some people would like for it to mean but it really is dumb...

Thank Tupac.  NPR or Ebony claiming thug is a racist word doesn't make it so. It certainly can be, and is frequently used that way, but it is not exclusively racist. Context is everything. The word 'boy' can be a very highly charged, and unacceptably racist word when used in certain contexts, but the word 'boy' is not racist.  Do a search on "thug" here and you'll see plenty of AMT threads where this topic has been re-hashed countless times.

You mean context like this...

They're a bunch of unlikeable thugs, and I couldn't be happier that they're headed home to their Jacksonville ghettos while listening to their Lil Wayne and T-Pain

Exactly. That is a great example of how to use thug in a racist context. And in AMT threads you can find people calling pro-Trump, white nationalists thugs, which would obviously not be a racist thing to say.

Wobbie

is this the NFL thread or AMT?

GO BIRDS. (my homage to the juggler)

Poncier

This thread took a turn.
And as a lifelong masshole, yeah that shit smallest oceans posted was clearly racist. 

Ledbetterman10

SmallestOceans said:

The big deal/turning point in that game came with 2:30 left in the 2nd quarter with Jags driving near the Pats' 30 up 14-3. Pats call timeout, and coming out the timeout Blake Bortles gets a delay of game. They converted a 3rd and 7 for a first down but it was called back because of the penalty. Most likely would have been 17/21-3 at halftime because the Pats wouldn't have got the ball back with much time before the half ended. You pull that kind of mickey mouse crap and the Pats will always capitalize. They drove right down and made it 14-10.

This absolutely was the turning point. No excuse for getting a delay of game penalty after a timeout. 

SmallestOceans

How do we think the Eagles offense will attack the Patriots defense? What are their offensive strengths?

The Juggler

So to sum up: Eagles fans are decent, well meaning folks willing to donate their hard earned money to Mike Zimmer's wife's charity to make up for a few bad apples..... Patriots fans are mostly all racists.

GO BIRDS!

SmallestOceans

The Juggler said:

So to sum up: Eagles fans are decent, well meaning folks willing to donate their hard earned money to Mike Zimmer's wife's charity to make up for a few bad apples..... Patriots fans are mostly all racists.

GO BIRDS!

Jason P

The Juggler said:

Jason P said:

Juggler, I admit I've been a little heated and mean no disrespect to you personally.  You seem like a good dude.  Peace. 

I want to punch your horse in the face...assuming you have a horse.

Classy.  I offer an apology and this is what I get?  Philly proud!  

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5Ld2oR_G9Zw