Please bring GOD back into our lives!!!!

photogirlliz

The thread title is "Please bring GOD back into our lives"...I'd like to get a little more insight. To do so, may I ask how he was taken out of it?

catefrances

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

I just watched The Book of Eli last night. It was interesting.

SPOILER ALERT!!!!if you haven't seen it and don't want to know, don't read on .

and everyone else, don't quote this portion of my text.

it's set 30 years after a big war that wiped out most of the planet. he is "spoken to" by some voice (god or an angel or something-it's never said) and given directions to an important book. This book, obviously, is the bible. it is his quest to find this book, and to travel west to a place where it can be used to the best of its purpose.

the kicker? the reason this book is so important is because it's the only one left on earth. after the big war, everyone blamed religion (the bible in particular) for all the ills of the world, so they burned them all. so denzel finds the last one, and takes it (well, its message-if you've seen the movie, you know) to someone in San Francisco and they get it reprinted.

what I found interesting is that I actually agree with the first message: the bible, but more specifically, the belief in different supreme beings, IS the root cause of all conflict in the world.

I found myself actually feeling disappointed when he completed his mission and the bible had been revived.

i watched book of eli. i thought it was one of the worst films ive ever seen.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

catefrances wrote:

i watched book of eli. i thought it was one of the worst films ive ever seen.

that's a tad dramatic, no? one of the WORST you've ever seen? seriously? have you not seen any movie with Jason Statham in it?

seriously though, care to share why?

Thoughts_Arrive

In a daze coz I found God, yeaaah yeaaah!

The Fixer

81 wrote:

where is Tim Tebow when you need him.

you bastard, you beat me to it.

tebow is the OP. nice to know he's a PJ fan. I sure as fuck hope I don't get stuck next to him at a show on the next tour

my two cents...the people that need religion the most are the people that make the most mistakes in their lives. being religious is a way of them making up for the wrongs they have done.

I think religion is a huge scam. Just be a good person and you have nothing to worry about

Byrnzie

fear4freedom wrote:

The Govt. serves and protects us and are subservient to us. They work for us.

No they don't. The government serves and protects the interests of big business. You'd need to have your head in the sand to believe otherwise.

fear4freedom wrote:

f there have been about 60-70 billion people after Christ, and about %90 of them believe that Jesus walked this earth, and most of them believe he was tortured and hung on a cross, ISNT THAT ENOUGH to praise him?

Where do you get these stats? There is no evidence that Jesus ever lived. So how do you suppose that 90% of people during the last 2000 years believed in his existence? Also, most people in Asia don't believe in Jesus or Christianity. Eastern religion and philosophy predates Christianity by thousands of years. How does this fit into your quaint little scheme of things?

Godfather.

you all spend more time trying to convense each other there in no God...why ?
do you believe yourselfs to be the superior beings ?...I sure hope not because not one of you (you know who you are)
have showed any form or example of rational thought only blame self importance and hate for something
that others find important in their own lives, you just can't wait to cut down anothers belifes and tell them how smart you all are...what a joke the fact is that you don't want to know so you may never know Gods love. to bad...

Godfather.

blueandwhite

Byrnzie wrote:

At the same that the 'founders' of the U.S. were busy preaching 'God', manifest destiny, and slaughtering the native population, Europeans were evolving intellectually and moving beyond this silly superstition.

Anyone reading this post could be forgiven for thinking that the last 200 years of Western philosophy, science and literature never happened.

Are those the same Europeans that were colonizing much of the third world; trouncing on a bunch of indigenous peoples and leaving a negative footprint that is still felt today? And perhaps it's just me, but weren't those founding fathers also Europeans? Look, I appreciate that you pretty much despise anything and anyone associated with the United States but please don't tell me you actually look to Europe as being a paragon of enlightenment. People suck around the globe; Europe is hardly a special exception.

pandora

FiveB247x wrote:

No I recognize the difference between, god, organized religion and spirituality.

And when push comes to shove, there is changing or growing when it comes to very black and white matters in religion and god... most things boil down to the existence or not or creationism vs evolution. The more changing and growing a person does, you could say, the are moving away from what most consider religion is defined as. It's not discrimination or anything similar.

pandora wrote:

God is not religion but I think it is to you

We are all changing and growing whether someone believes in God or not
or
follows a religion or not...

the fact that you don't think this shows your discrimination of those who believe
and that is stagnant in itself

God created evolution



and your post here...

"Anyone who simply seeks out confirmation for their own beliefs isn't learning, growing or evolving, they're stagnant and seeking reaffirmation from others. Sadly, this is what religion and many other concrete, extreme beliefs are.. unchanged views in an ever changing world and life."



This sounded discriminating against the religious in my opinon

saying religious people are stagnant...
when you do not know if they are or not personally, individually
and it is also a broad generalization ...

this seems stagnant of you to me because you have formed an opinion
and are not allowing yourself to learn, grow or evolve on the subject
of those who follow religion.

Godfather.

Byrnzie wrote:

fear4freedom wrote:

The Govt. serves and protects us and are subservient to us. They work for us.

No they don't. The government serves and protects the interests of big business. You'd need to have your head in the sand to believe otherwise.

fear4freedom wrote:

f there have been about 60-70 billion people after Christ, and about %90 of them believe that Jesus walked this earth, and most of them believe he was tortured and hung on a cross, ISNT THAT ENOUGH to praise him?

Where do you get these stats? There is no evidence that Jesus ever lived. So how do you suppose that 90% of people during the last 2000 years believed in his existence? Also, most people in Asia don't believe in Jesus or Christianity. Eastern religion and philosophy predates Christianity by thousands of years. How does this fit into your quaint little scheme of things?

Byrnzie are you board ? or do you really believe the things you post ?...ease up man you're starting to sound angry and just saying things to irrerate people.

Godfather.

Suzi78

Godfather. wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

fear4freedom wrote:

The Govt. serves and protects us and are subservient to us. They work for us.

No they don't. The government serves and protects the interests of big business. You'd need to have your head in the sand to believe otherwise.

fear4freedom wrote:

f there have been about 60-70 billion people after Christ, and about %90 of them believe that Jesus walked this earth, and most of them believe he was tortured and hung on a cross, ISNT THAT ENOUGH to praise him?

Where do you get these stats? There is no evidence that Jesus ever lived. So how do you suppose that 90% of people during the last 2000 years believed in his existence? Also, most people in Asia don't believe in Jesus or Christianity. Eastern religion and philosophy predates Christianity by thousands of years. How does this fit into your quaint little scheme of things?

Byrnzie are you board ? or do you really believe the things you post ?...ease up man you're starting to sound angry and just saying things to irrerate people.

Godfather.

Were you asking if Byrnzie was bored? or abroad...? Well, he is in Asia at the moment. You know that continent where majority of the people do not believe in God or Jesus...? It is a rather well known fact that they're not Christians, so I don't know why you would ask him if he actually believes the things he posts :?
Nope, doesn't irrerate nor irritate me.

he still stands

90% of the people believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, they just don't know it yet. When they're on their death bed, they'll smell the garlic bread. You just need faith and an unflinching desire to spend trillions of dollars to protect ourselves from the other pasta religion terrorists.

Godfather.

well....suzi and h.s.s have a nice day
tooo ez...it's like watching re-runs of the twilight zone here some times.

Godfather.

brianlux

Godfather. wrote:

well....suzi and h.s.s have a nice day
tooo ez...it's like watching re-runs of the twilight zone here some times.

Godfather.

I've got news for you, Godfather. This is the Twilight Zone!

ONCE DEVIDED

Godfather. wrote:

you all spend more time trying to convense each other there in no God...why ?
do you believe yourselfs to be the superior beings ?...I sure hope not because not one of you (you know who you are)
have showed any form or example of rational thought only blame self importance and hate for something
that others find important in their own lives, you just can't wait to cut down anothers belifes and tell them how smart you all are...what a joke the fact is that you don't want to know so you may never know Gods love. to bad...

Godfather.

YOU ALL ??
Not one of you have shown any rational thought, self importance

Excuse me godfather. How is self importance in my thoughts on this.
All I ask is not to be controlled by your faith. How is that self importance . I have stated your faith is great for you but I don't share it and shouldnt have to live by it.
You choose to argue with the other comments that are completely opposite to your own and then say there is no rational discussion
I say your engaging in the same and not in respectful rational discussion
So don't complain about it

FiveB247x

Yeah I know the how the philosophy of god and religion work.. basically anything that we are unsure about it's origin, god must have created. And in general, the reason I called it stagnant, is because it's a concrete belief system.. there's no change with evidence or fact..ever. And I called the belief system stagnant, more so a reflection of the beliefs, compared to the people directed..although you could state it the opposite way as well. If you want to say that's a generalization so be it, but you still haven't really dismissed my comment, but instead just don't like how I'm describing these narrow view points. Believing in god is limiting as a philosophy because there's is no change, it all points to god's creation. And in an age of constant discovery, religious people simply discount anything and everything in order to surmise that god predetermined everything we see currently or will ever see. It's narrow and unchanged..ie stagnant.

pandora wrote:

God created evolution



and your post here...

"Anyone who simply seeks out confirmation for their own beliefs isn't learning, growing or evolving, they're stagnant and seeking reaffirmation from others. Sadly, this is what religion and many other concrete, extreme beliefs are.. unchanged views in an ever changing world and life."



This sounded discriminating against the religious in my opinon

saying religious people are stagnant...
when you do not know if they are or not personally, individually
and it is also a broad generalization ...

this seems stagnant of you to me because you have formed an opinion
and are not allowing yourself to learn, grow or evolve on the subject
of those who follow religion.

Godfather.

brianlux wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

well....suzi and h.s.s have a nice day
tooo ez...it's like watching re-runs of the twilight zone here some times.

Godfather.

I've got news for you, Godfather. This is the Twilight Zone!

Godfather.

Godfather.

ONCE DEVIDED wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

you all spend more time trying to convense each other there in no God...why ?
do you believe yourselfs to be the superior beings ?...I sure hope not because not one of you (you know who you are)
have showed any form or example of rational thought only blame self importance and hate for something
that others find important in their own lives, you just can't wait to cut down anothers belifes and tell them how smart you all are...what a joke the fact is that you don't want to know so you may never know Gods love. to bad...

Godfather.

YOU ALL ??
Not one of you have shown any rational thought, self importance

Excuse me godfather. How is self importance in my thoughts on this.
All I ask is not to be controlled by your faith. How is that self importance . I have stated your faith is great for you but I don't share it and shouldnt have to live by it.
You choose to argue with the other comments that are completely opposite to your own and then say there is no rational discussion
I say your engaging in the same and not in respectful rational discussion
So don't complain about it

read my post carefuly..."(you know who you are)

if you feel guilty enough react and reply that's on you brother.

Godfather.

ONCE DEVIDED

All brother
Means all
Not one of you
Means not one of us
And if you want rational discussion engage in that.
If you want to argue with those opposed to your view, don't complain.

Godfather.

ONCE DEVIDED wrote:

All brother
Means all
Not one of you
Means not one of us
And if you want rational discussion engage in that.
If you want to argue with those opposed to your view, don't complain.

rational discussion ?...yea sure.

Godfather.