f there have been about 60-70 billion people after Christ, and about %90 of them believe that Jesus walked this earth, and most of them believe he was tortured and hung on a cross, ISNT THAT ENOUGH to praise him?
Where do you get these stats? There is no evidence that Jesus ever lived. So how do you suppose that 90% of people during the last 2000 years believed in his existence? Also, most people in Asia don't believe in Jesus or Christianity. Eastern religion and philosophy predates Christianity by thousands of years. How does this fit into your quaint little scheme of things?
Byrnzie are you board ? or do you really believe the things you post ?...ease up man you're starting to sound angry and just saying things to irrerate people.
Godfather.
Were you asking if Byrnzie was bored? or abroad...? Well, he is in Asia at the moment. You know that continent where majority of the people do not believe in God or Jesus...? It is a rather well known fact that they're not Christians, so I don't know why you would ask him if he actually believes the things he posts :?
Nope, doesn't irrerate nor irritate me.
90% of the people believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, they just don't know it yet. When they're on their death bed, they'll smell the garlic bread. You just need faith and an unflinching desire to spend trillions of dollars to protect ourselves from the other pasta religion terrorists.
Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
you all spend more time trying to convense each other there in no God...why ?
do you believe yourselfs to be the superior beings ?...I sure hope not because not one of you (you know who you are)
have showed any form or example of rational thought only blame self importance and hate for something
that others find important in their own lives, you just can't wait to cut down anothers belifes and tell them how smart you all are...what a joke the fact is that you don't want to know so you may never know Gods love. to bad...
Godfather.
YOU ALL ??
Not one of you have shown any rational thought, self importance
Excuse me godfather. How is self importance in my thoughts on this.
All I ask is not to be controlled by your faith. How is that self importance . I have stated your faith is great for you but I don't share it and shouldnt have to live by it.
You choose to argue with the other comments that are completely opposite to your own and then say there is no rational discussion
I say your engaging in the same and not in respectful rational discussion
So don't complain about it
Yeah I know the how the philosophy of god and religion work.. basically anything that we are unsure about it's origin, god must have created. And in general, the reason I called it stagnant, is because it's a concrete belief system.. there's no change with evidence or fact..ever. And I called the belief system stagnant, more so a reflection of the beliefs, compared to the people directed..although you could state it the opposite way as well. If you want to say that's a generalization so be it, but you still haven't really dismissed my comment, but instead just don't like how I'm describing these narrow view points. Believing in god is limiting as a philosophy because there's is no change, it all points to god's creation. And in an age of constant discovery, religious people simply discount anything and everything in order to surmise that god predetermined everything we see currently or will ever see. It's narrow and unchanged..ie stagnant.
"Anyone who simply seeks out confirmation for their own beliefs isn't learning, growing or evolving, they're stagnant and seeking reaffirmation from others. Sadly, this is what religion and many other concrete, extreme beliefs are.. unchanged views in an ever changing world and life."
This sounded discriminating against the religious in my opinon
saying religious people are stagnant...
when you do not know if they are or not personally, individually
and it is also a broad generalization ...
this seems stagnant of you to me because you have formed an opinion
and are not allowing yourself to learn, grow or evolve on the subject
of those who follow religion.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
you all spend more time trying to convense each other there in no God...why ?
do you believe yourselfs to be the superior beings ?...I sure hope not because not one of you (you know who you are)
have showed any form or example of rational thought only blame self importance and hate for something
that others find important in their own lives, you just can't wait to cut down anothers belifes and tell them how smart you all are...what a joke the fact is that you don't want to know so you may never know Gods love. to bad...
Godfather.
YOU ALL ??
Not one of you have shown any rational thought, self importance
Excuse me godfather. How is self importance in my thoughts on this.
All I ask is not to be controlled by your faith. How is that self importance . I have stated your faith is great for you but I don't share it and shouldnt have to live by it.
You choose to argue with the other comments that are completely opposite to your own and then say there is no rational discussion
I say your engaging in the same and not in respectful rational discussion
So don't complain about it
read my post carefuly..."(you know who you are)
if you feel guilty enough react and reply that's on you brother.
All brother
Means all
Not one of you
Means not one of us
And if you want rational discussion engage in that.
If you want to argue with those opposed to your view, don't complain.
All brother
Means all
Not one of you
Means not one of us
And if you want rational discussion engage in that.
If you want to argue with those opposed to your view, don't complain.
90% of the people believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, they just don't know it yet. When they're on their death bed, they'll smell the garlic bread. You just need faith and an unflinching desire to spend trillions of dollars to protect ourselves from the other pasta religion terrorists.
Have you been touched by his noodly appendage? If so, glad to see another pastafarian on this board.
That lyric sums it up for me. God? God to me is a great Mystery. I'm happy leaving it at that. When I want to get close to something sacred I look at a tiny spider mite or a huge redwood, dew sparkling on the ground or stars flickering in the great cosmos, or marvel at the power of love.
Now that!!! is the most intelligent statement anyone has made to this point. Why is it so rational? Because, you won't understand enlightenment until you can live in the now. The past is gone. The bad apples that called themselves religious fucked up the original meaning. Which is to be kind. Give of your time and help those that you can. But change starts with us only us. We cannot change others. Only by living by example can they see that religion needs a new word.:)
This poster lives in the now. They do not know the future, they need not dwell in the past. This causes suffering. Suffering can be lightened if we literally stay in the present moment and completely appreciate what is happening in that moment. Nature is a great way to be in another mindset. The pondering of all life. The amazement of a redwood tree that gives us the gift of oxygen so we can live. If you slow your mind down, stop, just observe the world you are in..an ant is a really amazing thing. The view of galaxies from Hubble they all look like cells..then go to the other level use a micro scope the view cells. They look like galaxies. This kind of mindfulness comes with a bit of the child like wisdom when the moon did follow us. Just because later we were told it does not, does not mean that it was not at the time. Your reality is created by your thoughts. Brianlux has just shown an example of what I call spirituality. Giving is magic. It feels fucking awesome to see the face of someone who needed something and you offer it up without thought of yourself. That in Buddhism is called Metta. We don't do it to get something in return but a feeling empathy and love ..i volunteered for 4 years when I was sick. The look on some peoples faces when I have them what they needed was pure gratefulness. And the magic that happened to me because of my giving made me more open to noticing the little things in daily life that we often over look. Like sunshine reflecting off a mobile of stars on my front porch that creates a dance of color on my front door. Ok so I smoke pot. I will admit to having nervous problems and it helps me slow down. When I do, I try to see what i normally don't notice. Light dancing on your door is beautiful. The awareness of it, brings on a chemical in the brain that makes us feel there is mystery out there. God is no man in the sky.
Buddhism is a religion based on pure loving kindness compassion for all of mankind. Look how China treats these gentle people...they hate them. They hate them because they can't get them to hate back. They found the secret. If you practice silence or prayer or running or something that takes you out of your mind, then you are a antenna suddenly picking up a radio station you never knew existed. I know no Buddhist that would participate in war. I'm also not saying it is the only way.I just believe, that you have to accept that there are many paths to finding this force. True "spiritual" people are everywhere. Those that don't get it and call themselves religious just have not gotten to that place on the path where they finally find out for themselves, that we can awaken to sleepwalking and hatred of those who killed in the name of love...to see that dew on the leaf and realize that we are alive, and that there are many types of people in this world. We are all related.
"As above so is it below" It's more like "The Force in Star Wars" You don't plead and beg to "God", you look at the EArth and the stars and mystery of the unfathomable space out there and it's when you think an awesome "god" you understand that what you have been doing wrong is thinking it is somewhere out there and it needs to be proven. When in fact it is WITHIN us. Our thoughts create our reality.
In the film Contact, Jodie Foster is a scientist and she meets a charming man who is a spiritual person. He explains how one day he just felt different and he knew it was God. She responded by saying, how do you know that you just created that experience because we don't want to face death. She said I would want proof. Later on, they are alone outside talking science and God, again she says there is no proof so it must not exist. That is logical thinking. He replies it is all about faith. She does not believe in faith in God. He responds like this.
"Did you love your father?" he says. "yes, very much" she says. He says, "well, then prove it."
Now that!!! is the most intelligent statement anyone has made to this point. Why is it so rational? Because, you won't understand enlightenment until you can live in the now. The past is gone. The bad apples that called themselves religious fucked up the original meaning. Which is to be kind. Give of your time and help those that you can. But change starts with us only us. We cannot change others. Only by living by example can they see that religion needs a new word.
This poster lives in the now. They do not know the future, they need not dwell in the past. This causes suffering. Suffering can be lightened if we literally stay in the present moment and completely appreciate what is happening in that moment. Nature is a great way to be in another mindset. The pondering of all life. The amazement of a redwood tree that gives us the gift of oxygen so we can live. If you slow your mind down, stop, just observe the world you are in..an ant is a really amazing thing. The view of galaxies from Hubble they all look like cells..then go to the other level use a micro scope the view cells. They look like galaxies. This kind of mindfulness comes with a bit of the child like wisdom when the moon did follow us. Just because later we were told it does not, does not mean that it was not at the time. Your reality is created by your thoughts. Brianlux has just shown an example of what I call spirituality. Giving is magic. It feels fucking awesome to see the face of someone who needed something and you offer it up without thought of yourself. That in Buddhism is called Metta. We don't do it to get something in return but a feeling empathy and love ..i volunteered for 4 years when I was sick. The look on some peoples faces when I have them what they needed was pure gratefulness. And the magic that happened to me because of my giving made me more open to noticing the little things in daily life that we often over look. Like sunshine reflecting off a mobile of stars on my front porch that creates a dance of color on my front door. Ok so I smoke pot. I will admit to having nervous problems and it helps me slow down. When I do, I try to see what i normally don't notice. Light dancing on your door is beautiful. The awareness of it, brings on a chemical in the brain that makes us feel there is mystery out there. God is no man in the sky.
Some great thoughts
Myself I'm most at peace sitting on my surfboard amongst the waves.
That natures shares it energy with me.
When I was young I prayed and prayed for deliverance from the painfully place I was in. I believed that my god would save me. Like I read in the bible where god saved so many. This of course never happened.
My turning point was when I took the responsibility of my life. When I started to build the life I have created.
When I turned to friendship with my fellow man. No matter what their beliefs were as that is not important. Sharing our life together, helping each other. Being there in good times and bad. We were actually talking last night with old friends, saying that our friendships sort of are like being married to each other. We talked about excepting each other, sure there are differences, and disagreements . But we get past that because of love and accepting that others are different , have different priorities. But that we enjoy each others company.
I'm proud that my circle of friends couldnt fit in my house at one time, that some of them wouldn't want to be in the same house as others offend them. But they are connected through me, my family.
I'm connected to so many through this band, and many have shown me love and kindness.
AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,430
Thank you, BhagavadGita. Just don't get carried away calling me "brilliant". I'm already in the dog house!
And for those of you who took offense at some of my posts- SURELY not my intent- please see my explanation here:
To whom are you referring? If you mean me, I wish I could say I always live in the "now". I try and I like what you say about doing so, but it takes a lot of living for some of us to do that. For others it seems to come naturally. Sometimes peace of mind has to be greatly cultivated.
And yes, another word for "religion" might be very useful!
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
To whom are you referring? If you mean me, I wish I could say I always live in the "now". I try and I like what you say about doing so, but it takes a lot of living for some of us to do that. For others it seems to come naturally. Sometimes peace of mind has to be greatly cultivated.
And yes, another word for "religion" might be very useful!
I wish that they were my words but bhagadvita used it and I copied and pasted
And the act of trying is what's great to me. We are human after all
Were you asking if Byrnzie was bored? or abroad...? Well, he is in Asia at the moment. You know that continent where majority of the people do not believe in God or Jesus...? It is a rather well known fact that they're not Christians, so I don't know why you would ask him if he actually believes the things he posts :?
Nope, doesn't irrerate nor irritate me.
Some people just don't like it when anyone challenges their myopic U.S-centric view of the World. Christianity is a defunct religion. It's not only defunct but it's based on a lie. Jesus never existed. The idea of Jesus was also based on much earlier Middle-Eastern pagan mystery religions that reach far back into ancient history and can be found all over the Mediterranean region and the near East. Why Americans in the 21st century choose to adhere to this 2000 year old synthetic Middle Eastern cult is beyond me.
They would have been much better off paying more attention to the Native religions/belief systems of the America's. If they had then maybe they wouldn't today be responsible for 25% of the Worlds pollution, to name just one benefit.
you all spend more time trying to convense each other there in no God...why ?
do you believe yourselfs to be the superior beings ?...I sure hope not because not one of you (you know who you are)
have showed any form or example of rational thought only blame self importance and hate for something
that others find important in their own lives, you just can't wait to cut down anothers belifes and tell them how smart you all are...what a joke the fact is that you don't want to know so you may never know Gods love. to bad...
Godfather.
why do WE spend all this time trying to convince each other there is no god? no convincing needed, first of all, and second of all, it's usually a theist that keeps starting these damn threads asking us why we don't believe what you believe.
if you don't want an answer, don't ask the question.
I find it incredibly disturbing the post above should actually have been written about many on the god side of the coin, not the other. you (nor your main compatriot) fail to see how awfully hypocritical you speak. opinions are ok for one side, but it's considered "bullying" or being disrespectful from the other. I believe me, I understand your view. I was once there. For a long time. I became enlightened, just as you think you became at some point in your life, but it's just a different enlightenment. why can't you people just accept that? I don't go around speaking negatively and in a condescending manner about how shitty your life must be with god, yet you and Pandora blather on constantly about how bad you feel for us.
do you really think that's an appropriate way to deal with people?
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
At the same that the 'founders' of the U.S. were busy preaching 'God', manifest destiny, and slaughtering the native population, Europeans were evolving intellectually and moving beyond this silly superstition.
Anyone reading this post could be forgiven for thinking that the last 200 years of Western philosophy, science and literature never happened.
It seems to me that you give every country that isn't the United States a free pass while throwing in a few nasty generalizations about Americans. You quickly point out the shortcomings of America and its peoples while giving Europe, the Middle East, South and East Asia a free pass. To me, you come across as being purposefully antagonistic with anybody who doesn't share your views.
you all spend more time trying to convense each other there in no God...why ?
do you believe yourselfs to be the superior beings ?...I sure hope not because not one of you (you know who you are)
have showed any form or example of rational thought only blame self importance and hate for something
that others find important in their own lives, you just can't wait to cut down anothers belifes and tell them how smart you all are...what a joke the fact is that you don't want to know so you may never know Gods love. to bad...
Godfather.
This is my first post in this thread. I was trying to decide if I was on the atheists side of the argument or the theists. I couldn't decide which group had the more intelligent posts. Based on the spelling and grammar errors alone in the post I quoted, I have decided that I no longer believe in God......
i watched book of eli. i thought it was one of the worst films ive ever seen.
that's a tad dramatic, no? one of the WORST you've ever seen? seriously? have you not seen any movie with Jason Statham in it?
seriously though, care to share why?
denzel spend the whole film walking, protecting a book, which merely by its existence is the reasoning for all the violence in the film. gary oldman wants the book and will do anything and have anyone killed to achieve that goal. i found the plot boring. and i said ONE OF, not THE MOST. and yes ive seen jason statham movies... and when i watch them i dont expect much more that fast cars and bare chested fighting at some stage.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
i watched book of eli. i thought it was one of the worst films ive ever seen.
that's a tad dramatic, no? one of the WORST you've ever seen? seriously? have you not seen any movie with Jason Statham in it?
seriously though, care to share why?
denzel spend the whole film walking, protecting a book, which merely by its existence is the reasoning for all the violence in the film. gary oldman wants the book and will do anything and have anyone killed to achieve that goal. i found the plot boring. and i said ONE OF, not THE MOST. and yes ive seen jason statham movies... and when i watch them i dont expect much more that fast cars and bare chested fighting at some stage.
I know you said "one of". So did I. I still think that's a stretch. But either way, I think that was the point the movie was trying to make, the irony of protecting a book by any means necessary to achieve peace and spread the word. it's the ultimate, yet tired, paradox.
bare chested fighting.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
i watched book of eli. i thought it was one of the worst films ive ever seen.
that's a tad dramatic, no? one of the WORST you've ever seen? seriously? have you not seen any movie with Jason Statham in it?
seriously though, care to share why?
denzel spend the whole film walking, protecting a book, which merely by its existence is the reasoning for all the violence in the film. gary oldman wants the book and will do anything and have anyone killed to achieve that goal. i found the plot boring. and i said ONE OF, not THE MOST. and yes ive seen jason statham movies... and when i watch them i dont expect much more that fast cars and bare chested fighting at some stage.
A movie( also post-apocalyptic ) that came out around the same time as Book of Eli but much much better is The Road. It stars Viggo Mortensen. It is one of the best movies from that year. A must see.
A movie( also post-apocalyptic ) that came out around the same time as Book of Eli but much much better is The Road. It stars Viggo Mortensen. It is one of the best movies from that year. A must see.
the problem i have with the road is, im a fan of cormac mccarthy and not a fan of movies made from books. but i am a fan of viggo mortensen so one day therell be enough distance between the book and the movie for me to watch it... thats just not now. but thank you for the recommendation.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,430
This is my first post in this thread. I was trying to decide if I was on the atheists side of the argument or the theists. I couldn't decide which group had the more intelligent posts. Based on the spelling and grammar errors alone in the post I quoted, I have decided that I no longer believe in God......
I laughed when I first read this... but then I remembered that in A Life in Letters John Steinbeck said that he didn't pay much attention to punctuation or spelling because he was too busy formulating his thoughts and ideas and besides, he said, "That's why I have an editor." So try running your experiment again based on well formulated thoughts and ideas and see if you come up with anything different.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
A movie( also post-apocalyptic ) that came out around the same time as Book of Eli but much much better is The Road. It stars Viggo Mortensen. It is one of the best movies from that year. A must see.
this not directed at me but thank you! I love Viggo Mortensen and will check this out
but I hope it's not too scary
I never got see the entire movie ... Book of Eli yet
watched the beginning and the cruelty really was too much for me...
I'll try another day
Comments
Were you asking if Byrnzie was bored? or abroad...? Well, he is in Asia at the moment. You know that continent where majority of the people do not believe in God or Jesus...? It is a rather well known fact that they're not Christians, so I don't know why you would ask him if he actually believes the things he posts :?
Nope, doesn't irrerate nor irritate me.
tooo ez...it's like watching re-runs of the twilight zone here some times.
Godfather.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
YOU ALL ??
Not one of you have shown any rational thought, self importance
Excuse me godfather. How is self importance in my thoughts on this.
All I ask is not to be controlled by your faith. How is that self importance . I have stated your faith is great for you but I don't share it and shouldnt have to live by it.
You choose to argue with the other comments that are completely opposite to your own and then say there is no rational discussion
I say your engaging in the same and not in respectful rational discussion
So don't complain about it
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Godfather.
if you feel guilty enough react and reply that's on you brother.
Godfather.
Means all
Not one of you
Means not one of us
And if you want rational discussion engage in that.
If you want to argue with those opposed to your view, don't complain.
rational discussion ?...yea sure.
Godfather.
Have you been touched by his noodly appendage? If so, glad to see another pastafarian on this board.
This poster lives in the now. They do not know the future, they need not dwell in the past. This causes suffering. Suffering can be lightened if we literally stay in the present moment and completely appreciate what is happening in that moment. Nature is a great way to be in another mindset. The pondering of all life. The amazement of a redwood tree that gives us the gift of oxygen so we can live. If you slow your mind down, stop, just observe the world you are in..an ant is a really amazing thing. The view of galaxies from Hubble they all look like cells..then go to the other level use a micro scope the view cells. They look like galaxies. This kind of mindfulness comes with a bit of the child like wisdom when the moon did follow us. Just because later we were told it does not, does not mean that it was not at the time. Your reality is created by your thoughts. Brianlux has just shown an example of what I call spirituality. Giving is magic. It feels fucking awesome to see the face of someone who needed something and you offer it up without thought of yourself. That in Buddhism is called Metta. We don't do it to get something in return but a feeling empathy and love ..i volunteered for 4 years when I was sick. The look on some peoples faces when I have them what they needed was pure gratefulness. And the magic that happened to me because of my giving made me more open to noticing the little things in daily life that we often over look. Like sunshine reflecting off a mobile of stars on my front porch that creates a dance of color on my front door. Ok so I smoke pot. I will admit to having nervous problems and it helps me slow down. When I do, I try to see what i normally don't notice. Light dancing on your door is beautiful. The awareness of it, brings on a chemical in the brain that makes us feel there is mystery out there. God is no man in the sky.
Buddhism is a religion based on pure loving kindness compassion for all of mankind. Look how China treats these gentle people...they hate them. They hate them because they can't get them to hate back. They found the secret. If you practice silence or prayer or running or something that takes you out of your mind, then you are a antenna suddenly picking up a radio station you never knew existed. I know no Buddhist that would participate in war. I'm also not saying it is the only way.I just believe, that you have to accept that there are many paths to finding this force. True "spiritual" people are everywhere. Those that don't get it and call themselves religious just have not gotten to that place on the path where they finally find out for themselves, that we can awaken to sleepwalking and hatred of those who killed in the name of love...to see that dew on the leaf and realize that we are alive, and that there are many types of people in this world. We are all related.
"As above so is it below" It's more like "The Force in Star Wars" You don't plead and beg to "God", you look at the EArth and the stars and mystery of the unfathomable space out there and it's when you think an awesome "god" you understand that what you have been doing wrong is thinking it is somewhere out there and it needs to be proven. When in fact it is WITHIN us. Our thoughts create our reality.
In the film Contact, Jodie Foster is a scientist and she meets a charming man who is a spiritual person. He explains how one day he just felt different and he knew it was God. She responded by saying, how do you know that you just created that experience because we don't want to face death. She said I would want proof. Later on, they are alone outside talking science and God, again she says there is no proof so it must not exist. That is logical thinking. He replies it is all about faith. She does not believe in faith in God. He responds like this.
"Did you love your father?" he says. "yes, very much" she says. He says, "well, then prove it."
Here's a listing of the most and least religious countries... How does God make people behave better?
http://dailyatheist.blogspot.com/2009/0 ... es-in.html
Sweden has no moral control apparently.
Northern Europeans are the least religious people in the world. Their countries must be in shambles. :roll:
This poster lives in the now. They do not know the future, they need not dwell in the past. This causes suffering. Suffering can be lightened if we literally stay in the present moment and completely appreciate what is happening in that moment. Nature is a great way to be in another mindset. The pondering of all life. The amazement of a redwood tree that gives us the gift of oxygen so we can live. If you slow your mind down, stop, just observe the world you are in..an ant is a really amazing thing. The view of galaxies from Hubble they all look like cells..then go to the other level use a micro scope the view cells. They look like galaxies. This kind of mindfulness comes with a bit of the child like wisdom when the moon did follow us. Just because later we were told it does not, does not mean that it was not at the time. Your reality is created by your thoughts. Brianlux has just shown an example of what I call spirituality. Giving is magic. It feels fucking awesome to see the face of someone who needed something and you offer it up without thought of yourself. That in Buddhism is called Metta. We don't do it to get something in return but a feeling empathy and love ..i volunteered for 4 years when I was sick. The look on some peoples faces when I have them what they needed was pure gratefulness. And the magic that happened to me because of my giving made me more open to noticing the little things in daily life that we often over look. Like sunshine reflecting off a mobile of stars on my front porch that creates a dance of color on my front door. Ok so I smoke pot. I will admit to having nervous problems and it helps me slow down. When I do, I try to see what i normally don't notice. Light dancing on your door is beautiful. The awareness of it, brings on a chemical in the brain that makes us feel there is mystery out there. God is no man in the sky.
Some great thoughts
Myself I'm most at peace sitting on my surfboard amongst the waves.
That natures shares it energy with me.
When I was young I prayed and prayed for deliverance from the painfully place I was in. I believed that my god would save me. Like I read in the bible where god saved so many. This of course never happened.
My turning point was when I took the responsibility of my life. When I started to build the life I have created.
When I turned to friendship with my fellow man. No matter what their beliefs were as that is not important. Sharing our life together, helping each other. Being there in good times and bad. We were actually talking last night with old friends, saying that our friendships sort of are like being married to each other. We talked about excepting each other, sure there are differences, and disagreements . But we get past that because of love and accepting that others are different , have different priorities. But that we enjoy each others company.
I'm proud that my circle of friends couldnt fit in my house at one time, that some of them wouldn't want to be in the same house as others offend them. But they are connected through me, my family.
I'm connected to so many through this band, and many have shown me love and kindness.
And for those of you who took offense at some of my posts- SURELY not my intent- please see my explanation here:
http://forums.pearljam.com/posting.php? ... &p=4174369
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
To whom are you referring? If you mean me, I wish I could say I always live in the "now". I try and I like what you say about doing so, but it takes a lot of living for some of us to do that. For others it seems to come naturally. Sometimes peace of mind has to be greatly cultivated.
And yes, another word for "religion" might be very useful!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
And the act of trying is what's great to me. We are human after all
And you base this assumption on what exactly?
Some people just don't like it when anyone challenges their myopic U.S-centric view of the World. Christianity is a defunct religion. It's not only defunct but it's based on a lie. Jesus never existed. The idea of Jesus was also based on much earlier Middle-Eastern pagan mystery religions that reach far back into ancient history and can be found all over the Mediterranean region and the near East. Why Americans in the 21st century choose to adhere to this 2000 year old synthetic Middle Eastern cult is beyond me.
They would have been much better off paying more attention to the Native religions/belief systems of the America's. If they had then maybe they wouldn't today be responsible for 25% of the Worlds pollution, to name just one benefit.
this is what is considered baiting and/or trolling.
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why do WE spend all this time trying to convince each other there is no god? no convincing needed, first of all, and second of all, it's usually a theist that keeps starting these damn threads asking us why we don't believe what you believe.
if you don't want an answer, don't ask the question.
I find it incredibly disturbing the post above should actually have been written about many on the god side of the coin, not the other. you (nor your main compatriot) fail to see how awfully hypocritical you speak. opinions are ok for one side, but it's considered "bullying" or being disrespectful from the other. I believe me, I understand your view. I was once there. For a long time. I became enlightened, just as you think you became at some point in your life, but it's just a different enlightenment. why can't you people just accept that? I don't go around speaking negatively and in a condescending manner about how shitty your life must be with god, yet you and Pandora blather on constantly about how bad you feel for us.
do you really think that's an appropriate way to deal with people?
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Posts like this perhaps?
It seems to me that you give every country that isn't the United States a free pass while throwing in a few nasty generalizations about Americans. You quickly point out the shortcomings of America and its peoples while giving Europe, the Middle East, South and East Asia a free pass. To me, you come across as being purposefully antagonistic with anybody who doesn't share your views.
This is my first post in this thread. I was trying to decide if I was on the atheists side of the argument or the theists. I couldn't decide which group had the more intelligent posts. Based on the spelling and grammar errors alone in the post I quoted, I have decided that I no longer believe in God......
denzel spend the whole film walking, protecting a book, which merely by its existence is the reasoning for all the violence in the film. gary oldman wants the book and will do anything and have anyone killed to achieve that goal. i found the plot boring. and i said ONE OF, not THE MOST. and yes ive seen jason statham movies... and when i watch them i dont expect much more that fast cars and bare chested fighting at some stage.
take a good look
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I know you said "one of". So did I. I still think that's a stretch. But either way, I think that was the point the movie was trying to make, the irony of protecting a book by any means necessary to achieve peace and spread the word. it's the ultimate, yet tired, paradox.
bare chested fighting.
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have you seen him covered in oil fighting the baddies in the transporter???? truly one of the greatest moments on film.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
A movie( also post-apocalyptic ) that came out around the same time as Book of Eli but much much better is The Road. It stars Viggo Mortensen. It is one of the best movies from that year. A must see.
the problem i have with the road is, im a fan of cormac mccarthy and not a fan of movies made from books. but i am a fan of viggo mortensen so one day therell be enough distance between the book and the movie for me to watch it... thats just not now. but thank you for the recommendation.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I laughed when I first read this... but then I remembered that in A Life in Letters John Steinbeck said that he didn't pay much attention to punctuation or spelling because he was too busy formulating his thoughts and ideas and besides, he said, "That's why I have an editor." So try running your experiment again based on well formulated thoughts and ideas and see if you come up with anything different.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
this not directed at me but thank you! I love Viggo Mortensen and will check this out
but I hope it's not too scary
I never got see the entire movie ... Book of Eli yet
watched the beginning and the cruelty really was too much for me...
I'll try another day