Please bring GOD back into our lives!!!!

FiveB247x

I never told anyone to not personally believe or enjoy it themselves, I merely stated I don't like when people project their beliefs on others.. that's all this post is. If you enjoy it, great... I personally do not.

pandora wrote:

um you don't have to listen nor read

this post brought some joy to some of us

that must be a good thing

81

if your god is part of this....i'll pass

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=178335

fear4freedom

FiveB247x wrote:

If there is a god, he doesn't care about what man-made national borders you live in and I'd appreciate it if I didn't have to hear about god from anyone. If someone wants to believe, that's great, just keep it to yourself and stop trying to proselytizing the world.

YOU DIDNT HAVE TO CLICK ON MY POST! DID YOU? NOPE! ITS CALLED FREE SPEECH BUD! LOL YOU ARE FUNNY

FiveB247x

I never claimed you couldn't use free speech to say what you want, I simply claimed I didn't like it and explained why. Free Speech isn't around to protect the opinions you agree with, it's their to protect the one's you don't.

fear4freedom wrote:

FiveB247x wrote:

If there is a god, he doesn't care about what man-made national borders you live in and I'd appreciate it if I didn't have to hear about god from anyone. If someone wants to believe, that's great, just keep it to yourself and stop trying to proselytizing the world.

YOU DIDNT HAVE TO CLICK ON MY POST! DID YOU? NOPE! ITS CALLED FREE SPEECH BUD! LOL YOU ARE FUNNY

Lone Drawn Meteor

An old, but still-relevant response…

Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one and it's fine to be proud of it, but please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around... and please don't try to shove it down my child's throat.

Lone Drawn Meteor

fear4freedom wrote:

FiveB247x wrote:

If there is a god, he doesn't care about what man-made national borders you live in and I'd appreciate it if I didn't have to hear about god from anyone. If someone wants to believe, that's great, just keep it to yourself and stop trying to proselytizing the world.

YOU DIDNT HAVE TO CLICK ON MY POST! DID YOU? NOPE! ITS CALLED FREE SPEECH BUD! LOL YOU ARE FUNNY

There's that caps lock acting up again…
http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=180506&p=4170401#p4170446

81

Mr. Fingerbottom wrote:

An old, but still-relevant response…

Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one and it's fine to be proud of it, but please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around... and please don't try to shove it down my child's throat.

fear4freedom

FiveB247x wrote:

If there is a god, he doesn't care about what man-made national borders you live in and I'd appreciate it if I didn't have to hear about god from anyone. If someone wants to believe, that's great, just keep it to yourself and stop trying to proselytizing the world.

The Great John F. Kennedy (Democrat) said "And yet the same revolutionary belief for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe-the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God."

Im sorry but to think that God doesnt know about good nations on this earth is very naive! I believe our country is blessed from God! I also believe that God knows what man will do and what nations will do here on earth! He is above you and your pay-grade!

stargirl69

Mr. Fingerbottom wrote:

An old, but still-relevant response…

Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one and it's fine to be proud of it, but please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around... and please don't try to shove it down my child's throat.

Totally agree

81

fear4freedom wrote:

FiveB247x wrote:

If there is a god, he doesn't care about what man-made national borders you live in and I'd appreciate it if I didn't have to hear about god from anyone. If someone wants to believe, that's great, just keep it to yourself and stop trying to proselytizing the world.

The Great John F. Kennedy (Democrat) said "And yet the same revolutionary belief for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe-the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God."

Im sorry but to think that God doesnt know about good nations on this earth is very naive! I believe our country is blessed from God! I also believe that God knows what man will do and what nations will do here on earth! He is above you and your pay-grade!

God hates the middle east

josevolution

Hey if you feel like you need a God in your life that's cool with me ..
I for one don't believe in any God or any religion at all , so enjoy your God ...

Bant

Judith was Maynard James Keenan's mother's name. She was a very religious person. One day she had a stroke that left her in a wheelchair partially paralyzed. This stroke only strengthened her belief in God - something that Maynard found to be pretty ironic. The lyrics in this song reflect how he felt about the whole situation -

Maynard James Keenan wrote:

You're such an inspiration
For the ways that I will
Never, ever choose to be
Oh so many ways for me to show you
How your savior has abandoned you

Fuck your God, your Lord, your Christ
He did this, took all you had and
Left you this way, still you pray, never stray, never
Taste of the fruit, never thought to question "Why?"

It's not like you killed someone
It's not like you drove a hateful spear into his side
Praise the one who left you broken down and paralyzed

He did it all for you...
He did it all for you...

Oh so many ways for me to show you
How your dogma has abandoned you

Pray to your Christ, to your God
Never taste of the fruit, never stray, never break, never
Choke on a lie even though he's the one who
Did this to you, you never thought to question "Why?"

It's not like you killed someone
It's not like you drove a spiteful spear into his side
Talk to Jesus Christ as if he knows the reasons why

He did it all for you...

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

CH156378

It's funny. I am no christian scholar. I was raised Catholic my whole life. I go to church once in awile just to make my mom happy. She is a great christan woman. I have never seen her drink alcohal, swear, ect, ect. In fact she just retired from cleaning our local church after 19 yrs. My parents, hard working middle class folks, sent all four of their boys to a christian school.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, i've seen many a good christian person in my day. From what I have seen and read from the original poster he/she does not represent in any way shape or form the Christ or God I learned about.

FiveB247x

Well you are free to believe that "god" intervened in the founding of our nation, but that doesn't make it truth either.

I'm naive? Do you believe in Santa Claus and tooth fairy as well? You know...invisible beings who people have been built up and created fairy tales from to make their own little existence feel special, secure or necessary? Sound like god at all? If there was a god, and any one actually worth "worshiping", we see a world full of great things and great people. Instead we see a history full of war, greed, anger, hate, selfishness and religion being used as a tool to conquer and control, so please save the whole, god is everywhere speech.
Here's god at work..everyday... just as man is created in his image http://i.imgur.com/CbJ0e.png

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPOfurmrjxo

fear4freedom wrote:

FiveB247x wrote:

If there is a god, he doesn't care about what man-made national borders you live in and I'd appreciate it if I didn't have to hear about god from anyone. If someone wants to believe, that's great, just keep it to yourself and stop trying to proselytizing the world.

The Great John F. Kennedy (Democrat) said "And yet the same revolutionary belief for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe-the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God."

Im sorry but to think that God doesnt know about good nations on this earth is very naive! I believe our country is blessed from God! I also believe that God knows what man will do and what nations will do here on earth! He is above you and your pay-grade!

Lone Drawn Meteor

fear4freedom wrote:

FiveB247x wrote:

If there is a god, he doesn't care about what man-made national borders you live in and I'd appreciate it if I didn't have to hear about god from anyone. If someone wants to believe, that's great, just keep it to yourself and stop trying to proselytizing the world.

The Great John F. Kennedy (Democrat) said "And yet the same revolutionary belief for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe-the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God."

Im sorry but to think that God doesnt know about good nations on this earth is very naive! I believe our country is blessed from God! I also believe that God knows what man will do and what nations will do here on earth! He is above you and your pay-grade!

He also said, ""Ich bin ein Berliner." It didn't mean he was actually a donut. Sometimes being a good person doesn't need to involve doing it in someone else's name.

Most of the atrocities this world has seen and continues to see are done in His name. Holiness is a form of greed that causes normally decent people to do unspeakable things.

And you can quote me on that.

catefrances

Bant wrote:

Judith was Maynard James Keenan's mother's name. She was a very religious person. One day she had a stroke that left her in a wheelchair partially paralyzed. This stroke only strengthened her belief in God - something that Maynard found to be pretty ironic. The lyrics in this song reflect how he felt about the whole situation -

Maynard James Keenan wrote:

You're such an inspiration
For the ways that I will
Never, ever choose to be
Oh so many ways for me to show you
How your savior has abandoned you

Fuck your God, your Lord, your Christ
He did this, took all you had and
Left you this way, still you pray, never stray, never
Taste of the fruit, never thought to question "Why?"

It's not like you killed someone
It's not like you drove a hateful spear into his side
Praise the one who left you broken down and paralyzed

He did it all for you...
He did it all for you...

Oh so many ways for me to show you
How your dogma has abandoned you

Pray to your Christ, to your God
Never taste of the fruit, never stray, never break, never
Choke on a lie even though he's the one who
Did this to you, you never thought to question "Why?"

It's not like you killed someone
It's not like you drove a spiteful spear into his side
Talk to Jesus Christ as if he knows the reasons why

He did it all for you...

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

and thank you that you couldnt.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

so just because Jesus may have been a real human being, holy or not, I should STILL put him above me? why the hell would I do that? I don't put my buddy Sean above me. He's a smart guy. He's a wise guy. And?

What makes you think people who put Jesus above them automatically makes them more responsible in life? I actually think it makes them the opposite. If you can always get forgiveness, there's no motive not to do what you want. You can even tell a priest you killed someone, and by LAW he can't rat you out! That's fucked!

Many men have died wrongly. Hell, I would have gone on the cross if I honestly thought that it would save the world. doesn't take a special person to do that. it takes a coward not to.

I put my own morality and conscience above me. And it serves me just fine, thank you.

and you are not blessed to be born in the US, it's geographical happenstance. by saying that god blesses the US basically says he hates 98% of the rest of the world, since the other 2% lives in utter poverty and despair.

nice god. good thing to worship.

dignin

fear4freedom wrote:

FiveB247x wrote:

If there is a god, he doesn't care about what man-made national borders you live in and I'd appreciate it if I didn't have to hear about god from anyone. If someone wants to believe, that's great, just keep it to yourself and stop trying to proselytizing the world.

The Great John F. Kennedy (Democrat) said "And yet the same revolutionary belief for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe-the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God."

Im sorry but to think that God doesnt know about good nations on this earth is very naive! I believe our country is blessed from God! I also believe that God knows what man will do and what nations will do here on earth! He is above you and your pay-grade!

"There are 200 countries in the world now. Do these people honestly think that God is sitting around picking out his favorites? Why would he do that? Why would God have a favorite country? And why would it be America out of all the countries? Because you have the most money? Because he likes our National Anthem? Maybe it’s because he heard we have 18 delicious flavors of Classic Rice-A-Roni! It’s delusional thinking! And America is not alone with this sort of delusions. Military cemeteries around the world are packed with brainwashed dead soldiers who were convinced God was on their side. America prays for God to destroy our enemies. Our enemies pray for God to destroy us. Somebody’s gonna be disappointed. Somebody’s wasting their fucking time. Could it be everyone?"

- George Carlin

catefrances

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

so just because Jesus may have been a real human being, holy or not, I should STILL put him above me? why the hell would I do that? I don't put my buddy Sean above me. He's a smart guy. He's a wise guy. And?...

yes but can sean turn water into wine and walk on water?????

satansbed

The founding fathers weren't religious

http://www.economist.com/node/21541718