What does God look like ?

Cosmo

pandora wrote:

no I just see bullying

no to me taking anything personally, not much offends me I feel it was directed at those of religion
which belittles their faith... I take offense at others being belittled or mocked.

love is not a crutch that is offensive and describes love as something much less than the absolute power it is

I felt 'wolves' was speaking of his 5 senses because he has expressed the need for proof ... doorstep analogy

intelligence and reasoning can hinder one from feeling as do the five senses as the reply to 'feeling' God was made ...not understanding the concept or what that is.

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Okay. You see Brynzie's picture of God as bullying... even if he truely does see God as a crutch. Got it.
And if nothing offends you... why be offended by the crutch thing? 'For others'? What others?
As for this:
"intelligence and reasoning can hinder one from feeling as do the five senses as the reply to 'feeling' God was made ...not understanding the concept or what that is".
You may beliveve this to be true, but in reality, understanding only comes with intelligence and your capabilities of reasoning and logic... without intelligence, you cannot understand. You may be able to feel something without thinking about it, but, you must possess intelligence in order to understand it.

pandora

Cosmo wrote:

pandora wrote:

no I just see bullying

no to me taking anything personally, not much offends me I feel it was directed at those of religion
which belittles their faith... I take offense at others being belittled or mocked.

love is not a crutch that is offensive and describes love as something much less than the absolute power it is

I felt 'wolves' was speaking of his 5 senses because he has expressed the need for proof ... doorstep analogy

intelligence and reasoning can hinder one from feeling as do the five senses as the reply to 'feeling' God was made ...not understanding the concept or what that is.

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Okay. You see Brynzie's picture of God as bullying... even if he truely does see God as a crutch. Got it.
And if nothing offends you... why be offended by the crutch thing? 'For others'? What others?
As for this:
"intelligence and reasoning can hinder one from feeling as do the five senses as the reply to 'feeling' God was made ...not understanding the concept or what that is".
You may beliveve this to be true, but in reality, understanding only comes with intelligence and your capabilities of reasoning and logic... without intelligence, you cannot understand. You may be able to feel something without thinking about it, but, you must possess intelligence in order to understand it.

are you playing 'not all there' with me

cause my words explain exactly what I mean :? perhaps read again
I don't think I mentioned Brynzie but you do a lot.

and that is your opinion ... that it is through reasoning and intelligence that one understands
that is your box that is your reality
I disagree and will stick with my opinion ... those are the exact things that can hinder
feeling as do the five senses

Drowned Out

pandora wrote:

catefrances wrote:

guess i missed the memo that said God = no humour.

I know you like sarcasm and maybe being satirical too
I don't know

for me ... that's not humor ...

not if there is even a chance of someone being offended

ah. so...we should conform to your idea of humour, lest we be accused of being offensive, insulting, rude, condescending, cruel, disrespectful, bullying, derogatory, silly, defensive, lacking common sense, fearful, ridiculing meanies? (am I missing any of your adjectives from this thread?)...I’ll work on incorporating floating butterflies into my thoughts on God, just for you.

You must have a strong distaste for stand up comedy.

Electric_Delta wrote:

I have no problem placing faith in the One I believe created in the infinite universe. If He told me to place my faith in Him and not lean on my own understanding, I can accept that.

God is alot bigger than the tiny box society puts Him in.

Did He tell you to do that?

Cosmo

pandora wrote:

are you playing 'not all there' with me

cause my words explain exactly what I mean :? perhaps read again
I don't think I mentioned Brynzie but you do a lot.

and that is your opinion ... that it is through reasoning and intelligence that one understands
that is your box that is your reality
I disagree and will stick with my opinion ... those are the exact things that can hinder
feeling as do the five senses

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Brynzie, because you pulled up the example of ridicule and mockery and you only see him as bullying... don't you remember this? I mean, it was earlier today... not a couple of weeks ago.
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And your words... pretty vague at best. From what you have written, it seems as though you are transfering feelings of riducule and mockery due to the God = Crutch picture that Brynzie posted and relating them to some past experiences you may have had with being bullied or persecuted. Saying that it makes you think, not of yourself, but of others is a way of saying you do not feel ridiculed... but, you do. Your words tell me that you are transferring those feelings to Brynzie as a coping mechanism and find solice in calling him a bully, linking the feelings to have today with the hurt you've felt in the past.
Using reasoning instead of feeling to sort out those things would lead to understanding. That is intelligence leading to understanding... not feelings.
Correct me if I'm wrong here. Because based upon the words you have written... that is what I'm getting.
Failure in understanding that the two are completely unrelated.

Jeanwah

Drowned Out wrote:

pandora wrote:

catefrances wrote:

guess i missed the memo that said God = no humour.

I know you like sarcasm and maybe being satirical too
I don't know

for me ... that's not humor ...

not if there is even a chance of someone being offended

ah. so...we should conform to your idea of humour, lest we be accused of being offensive, insulting, rude, condescending, cruel, disrespectful, bullying, derogatory, silly, defensive, lacking common sense, fearful, ridiculing meanies? (am I missing any of your adjectives from this thread?)...I’ll work on incorporating floating butterflies into my thoughts on God, just for you.

You must have a strong distaste for stand up comedy.

Notice that because *one* person perceives a post to be bullying or offensive that it changes the entire thread? Why is the one person who is being unreasonable here receiving all the power to derail the thread? Because that's what's happening here. One person gets offended and everyone else jumps on board to argue with the irrational poster. Sociological observation at its best, and it's why society centers around dividing, rather than unifying. In my opinion Pandora cites ridicule, disrespect etc. as a need to push everyone's buttons as well as to control the thread...and don't we all fall for it...

Cosmo

Jeanwah wrote:

Notice that because *one* person perceives a post to be bullying or offensive that it changes the entire thread? Why is the one person who is being unreasonable here receiving all the power to derail the thread? Because that's what's happening here. One person gets offended and everyone else jumps on board to argue with the irrational poster. Sociological observation at its best, and it's why society centers around dividing, rather than unifying. In my opinion Pandora cites ridicule, disrespect etc. as a need to push everyone's buttons...and don't we all fall for it...

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I'm really trying to understand... really. I try to put the pieces together to get a basic feel of the logic I am dealing with. And sometimes it doesn't add up. It's like I'm rebuilding an engine and someone hands me a puppy to install.
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I just wanted to get that puppy comment in before this is shut down.

Jeanwah

There's no logic Cosmo. I've tried too.

Cosmo

Lizard wrote:

Come on Godfather. You wanted to provoke by asking a question that cannot be answered.
except by me...................
Here is God:

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Back on topic...
This is the interpreted vision of God as described in the Bible and translated by Michaelangelo. Good thing it wasn't Picasso... who would have been beheaded, even though his protrait of God would probably have been more accurate.
I wonder if God likes the band, 'Smashmouth'.

catefrances

Cosmo wrote:

Lizard wrote:

Come on Godfather. You wanted to provoke by asking a question that cannot be answered.
except by me...................
Here is God:

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Back on topic...
This is the interpreted vision of God as described in the Bible and translated by Michaelangelo. Good thing it wasn't Picasso... who would have been beheaded, even though his protrait of God would probably have been more accurate.
I wonder if God likes the band, 'Smashmouth'.

looks a bit like jerry garcia.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Godfather. wrote:

I would expect no less from you HFD..aside from my belief and faith let me have a second to explain why your reply is with little thought before typing...
fear of the unknown is most common, the boogie man under your bed or in the closet, the strange noises you hear in the house when your all alone, not being able to see in the dark but feeling a presents near you, fear of being alone or fear of death and if there is a God will I go to hell or will he forgive my sins ? etc.
so tell me what do you hide behind you laugh at others...maybe your questions of or out of fear ? EVERYBODY feels fear of some kind or another it's nothing to be ashamed of it's human nature. please accept my reply with all due respect for you.Godfather.

you start out with an insult and then tell me to accept your reply with all due respect. weird.
anyway, of COURSE everyone feels fear. I'm not denying that. Not sure where you got that from. But I don't fear god, because at this point I don't see his existence. I didn't fear death before I had my daughters. Now I fear death of myself for them, and my wife, if I am not around or able to provide. I have a fear of needles. And I will be the first to admit, I still sometimes fear the dark a bit. But I don't fear things that aren't there.

Cosmo

catefrances wrote:

looks a bit like jerry garcia.

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or like the 'Aqualung' character from the Jethro Tull album:

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except in a dirty Mac instead of a white robe.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

pandora wrote:

I am sorry you can not rejoice with others you are missing out on much.
How do you know I do not rejoice with you? You are on the defensive perhaps
you can not tell. Rather combative.

No one answered my question...

why come and ridicule and criticize? what is the purpose
and truly there is nothing more condescending then just that!

As far as fear it is showing in those with their defensive attitudes ...
otherwise one would think they would be happy with others beliefs.
No need for put downs or insulting another's beliefs when one is not
on the defensive.
They are comfortable with their beliefs and allow others to share theirs
without being threatened.

This was a great question, not at all silly, only to some non believers,
There were some great answers ... answers from the heart.
For me ...this question was about feelings and some shared them beautifully.

I have NEVER ONCE ridiculed anyone's faith. do YOU rejoice in the faith of those you disagree with? you don't rejoice in mine. so then why would you think I'm missing out on rejoicing with christians or you?

But I feel these threads are started just to start an argument with those you call "non-believers" (like we believe in nothing if we don't believe in your god). I thought it was a weird question. Priests themselves don't even sit around and ponder this question.

So what you are saying is.....no one can come to a thread started by you or GF because then it's just ridicule and fear. But you are free to go about your business on any thread you like derailing all of them into your "god is great" theme.

You can sit there and lecture all you want about what this thread was about and what an appropriate response is or isn't, but again, I shall ask, why do all these threads come back to YOU? You always put yourself at the centre of the topic. You police every thread like you are the moderator.

I am also comfortable in MY beliefs. yours do not coincide with mine, so when I state my opinion, those are my beliefs. if you trash what I say, then you aren't being tolerant to MY beliefs now are you?


how long are you going to preach these double standards?

Hugh Freaking Dillon

pandora wrote:

though a wind we can not see nor feel

you can't feel the wind? :?

catefrances

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

you start out with an insult and then tell me to accept your reply with all due respect. weird.
anyway, of COURSE everyone feels fear. I'm not denying that. Not sure where you got that from. But I don't fear god, because at this point I don't see his existence. I didn't fear death before I had my daughters. Now I fear death of myself for them, and my wife, if I am not around or able to provide. I have a fear of needles. And I will be the first to admit, I still sometimes fear the dark a bit. But I don't fear things that aren't there.

i dont really feel fear.

Cosmo

Godfather. wrote:

cool story, my take on it "We will create Man in our Image" so maybe He looks like me and looks like you
"I am he as you are me and we are all together"

Godfather.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... test=faces

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Maybe God looks like DNA.
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And is anyone else creeped out about God (and Santa Claus) watching us all of the time? Isn't that what stalkers do? Don't they have better things to do than watch us all playing with our genetali?

catefrances

Cosmo wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

cool story, my take on it "We will create Man in our Image" so maybe He looks like me and looks like you
"I am he as you are me and we are all together"

Godfather.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... test=faces

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Maybe God looks like DNA.
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And is anyone else creeped out about God (and Santa Claus) watching us all of the time? Isn't that what stalkers do? Don't they have better things to do than watch us all playing with our genetali?

nope. cant say that i am.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

pandora wrote:

Problem was it was used in a derogatory way showing believers as being weak for the need.

This a good example of the need to put down others.
Hmmm I wonder if that is a crutch?

you have said yourself that religion/faith are a crutch for a weakness. i'll find the quote if I have to. fact is, pandora, there are many needs in life that are as a result of a void. music fills mine.maybe your faith fills yours. but you constantly tell people not to comment on a public thread about their views on any given subject. if we don't agree, we are somehow evil. no one is ridiculing religion/faith/pandora. merely stating our views. if you can't handle that, and I'm not trying to be mean or condescending, but maybe you should stay off the train.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

catefrances wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

you start out with an insult and then tell me to accept your reply with all due respect. weird.
anyway, of COURSE everyone feels fear. I'm not denying that. Not sure where you got that from. But I don't fear god, because at this point I don't see his existence. I didn't fear death before I had my daughters. Now I fear death of myself for them, and my wife, if I am not around or able to provide. I have a fear of needles. And I will be the first to admit, I still sometimes fear the dark a bit. But I don't fear things that aren't there.

i dont really feel fear.

sorry, cate, but I have no choice but to call bullshit on that. to say as a human being that you don't feel fear is like saying you don't feel sadness. if you don't feel a biological human emotion, then something is dead.

catefrances

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

catefrances wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

you start out with an insult and then tell me to accept your reply with all due respect. weird.
anyway, of COURSE everyone feels fear. I'm not denying that. Not sure where you got that from. But I don't fear god, because at this point I don't see his existence. I didn't fear death before I had my daughters. Now I fear death of myself for them, and my wife, if I am not around or able to provide. I have a fear of needles. And I will be the first to admit, I still sometimes fear the dark a bit. But I don't fear things that aren't there.

i dont really feel fear.

sorry, cate, but I have no choice but to call bullshit on that. to say as a human being that you don't feel fear is like saying you don't feel sadness. if you don't feel a biological human emotion, then something is dead.

im not saying i never have. im saying now, where i am within myself, i dont feel fearful of anything. if however i was standing in the middle of a road with a mack truck bearing down on me and i couldnt move for some reason i probably would feel a great deal of fear. it would be a fear of being hurt and the pain involved. but pump me full of morphine and the fear of that pain would disappear.

Byrnzie

pandora wrote:

It matters not what they believe, to each their own

Would you say that to a neo-Nazi?