***Official Led Zeppelin Thread***

Newch91

josevolution wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Fucking best rock band ever without a doubt i get goose bumps just thinking about the two shows i saw the anticipation leading up to the shows i haven't felt since no band made me feel that way before a show ....and no drummer has ever reproduced the drumming of Good times Bad times !!!!!

Extremely jealous.

Dude i get so sad just thinking about how bad Page & Jones wanted to tour again but Plant was never on board , like i said to this day i haven't felt that same feeling they were true rock gods back then ...

Me too, man, me too. I would have taken out a loan from the bank to pay for tickets to see them on tour. I would also like to hear some of the stuff they came up with after the reunion show that Page was talking about in the interview.

Bronx Bombers

josevolution wrote:

Anybody pick up this months RS if you haven't please do so ....

Still wondering how the hell rs left Achilles off of there top 40 LZ songs.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists ... e-20121107

DewieCox

Newch91 wrote:

Me too, man, me too. I would have taken out a loan from the bank to pay for tickets to see them on tour. I would also like to hear some of the stuff they came up with after the reunion show that Page was talking about in the interview.

Page is supposedly gearing up for an album and some live shows. Hopefully gets JPJ involved.

Newch91

Bronx Bombers wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Anybody pick up this months RS if you haven't please do so ....

Still wondering how the hell rs left Achilles off of there top 40 LZ songs.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists ... e-20121107

:fp:

Newch91

DewieCox wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

Me too, man, me too. I would have taken out a loan from the bank to pay for tickets to see them on tour. I would also like to hear some of the stuff they came up with after the reunion show that Page was talking about in the interview.

Page is supposedly gearing up for an album and some live shows. Hopefully gets JPJ involved.

That would be great if JPJ gets involved. Won't be he working on Them Crooked Vultures, though?

Newch91

Speaking of Rolling Stone, I've been thinking about this for the last couple of weeks: I've seen comments on Facebook and Rolling Stone's site where there are articles where they praise Zepp, people will leave comments saying stuff like, "Rolling Stone is only praising Zepp now to make up for what they wrote in the '70s." Stuff like that. What got me thinking was those were completely different writers when Zeppelin was around and the writers of Rolling Stone now are people who grew up listening and loving Zeppelin.

Do any of you think those comments are fair?

kramer73

Newch91 wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

Me too, man, me too. I would have taken out a loan from the bank to pay for tickets to see them on tour. I would also like to hear some of the stuff they came up with after the reunion show that Page was talking about in the interview.

Page is supposedly gearing up for an album and some live shows. Hopefully gets JPJ involved.

That would be great if JPJ gets involved. Won't be he working on Them Crooked Vultures, though?

I don't know if Dave Grohl is going to have any time anytime soon.

peacefrompaul

Newch91 wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

Me too, man, me too. I would have taken out a loan from the bank to pay for tickets to see them on tour. I would also like to hear some of the stuff they came up with after the reunion show that Page was talking about in the interview.

Page is supposedly gearing up for an album and some live shows. Hopefully gets JPJ involved.

That would be great if JPJ gets involved. Won't be he working on Them Crooked Vultures, though?

Maybe... I know QOTSA was recording in August... I assume their album, which I'm sure is going to be sick (Dave Grohl, Nick Oliveri, and Trent Reznor are involved), has got to be coming out soon. Then I'm sure they'll tour the hell out of it.

Could be a while before more Them Crooked Vultures.

samjam

True story: My dad got kicked out of a bar in NYC with Robert Plant & Jimmy Page in the '70s. He was a badass. The dude is missed.

Newch91

samjam wrote:

True story: My dad got kicked out of a bar in NYC with Robert Plant & Jimmy Page in the '70s. He was a badass. The dude is missed.

Badass

peacefrompaul

samjam wrote:

True story: My dad got kicked out of a bar in NYC with Robert Plant & Jimmy Page in the '70s. He was a badass. The dude is missed.

Yes! That is fucking awesome!

musicismylife78

i have a vivid memory of a sixth grade substitute, who often subbed in classes throughout middle school, where she mentioned either she was related to robert plant, or knew him and spent time at his house. She looks like Plant, and her sons went to my school. Ive always wanted to ask about it, either to her or her sons, but dont want to come off as the obviously obsessed fan i am, "are you related to robert plant?"

musicismylife78

Newch91 wrote:

Speaking of Rolling Stone, I've been thinking about this for the last couple of weeks: I've seen comments on Facebook and Rolling Stone's site where there are articles where they praise Zepp, people will leave comments saying stuff like, "Rolling Stone is only praising Zepp now to make up for what they wrote in the '70s." Stuff like that. What got me thinking was those were completely different writers when Zeppelin was around and the writers of Rolling Stone now are people who grew up listening and loving Zeppelin.

Do any of you think those comments are fair?

I do think its fair, because of what the magazine that RS originally was, and the magazine it is in 2012. The general consensus obviously is that Led Zep is one of the greatest bands to have ever existed. And RS knows thats how people feel.

I also think its fair because lets face it, Pitchfork isnt the only site or music media outlet that could be considered snobby or pandering or whatever.

The original writers of RS in 1967/1968 onwards they werent old people. Fricke and who else may have been kids then, but the writers for RS at the time they were reviewing the Zep albums, it was a countercultural magazine for hippies and promoting hippie bands and politics. By definition the readers and writers involved would have been young. Lets not forget Cameron Crowe was a kid back then writing for RS giving them glowing reviews but the magazine at large panned them

musicismylife78

I dont know how i feel about bands who dont have the entire original lineup reuniting and performing. I saw the pixies in 2009, and they had the original lineup. they were great. But I dont know about Zep without bonham, or rather with bonhams son filling in. I get it, they are legends and rock royalty and seeing them perform would be special

It would have been like if George, Paul and Ringo had played a show as The Beatles before George died. Sure it would have been awesome, and I'd love to see Paul and Ringo play together today, or solo for that matter, but it wont be the same without John and George.

I grew up enthralled and altered by grunge. But, I couldnt have cared less about AIC reuniting and really didnt enjoy the most recent album. Its not AIC without Layne.

Newch91

musicismylife78 wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

Speaking of Rolling Stone, I've been thinking about this for the last couple of weeks: I've seen comments on Facebook and Rolling Stone's site where there are articles where they praise Zepp, people will leave comments saying stuff like, "Rolling Stone is only praising Zepp now to make up for what they wrote in the '70s." Stuff like that. What got me thinking was those were completely different writers when Zeppelin was around and the writers of Rolling Stone now are people who grew up listening and loving Zeppelin.

Do any of you think those comments are fair?

I do think its fair, because of what the magazine that RS originally was, and the magazine it is in 2012. The general consensus obviously is that Led Zep is one of the greatest bands to have ever existed. And RS knows thats how people feel.

I also think its fair because lets face it, Pitchfork isnt the only site or music media outlet that could be considered snobby or pandering or whatever.

The original writers of RS in 1967/1968 onwards they werent old people. Fricke and who else may have been kids then, but the writers for RS at the time they were reviewing the Zep albums, it was a countercultural magazine for hippies and promoting hippie bands and politics. By definition the readers and writers involved would have been young. Lets not forget Cameron Crowe was a kid back then writing for RS giving them glowing reviews but the magazine at large panned them

They also used to refuse to do interviews with Rolling Stone after their early album reviews. It was Cameron who kept persisting on an interview and eventually, they did do the interview. On an episode of "Charlie Rose" when he was promoting "Almost Famous", Cameron said something like the journalists who had reviewed the early albums, they were more fans of folk and the rock of the sixties and when Zeppelin came out, they weren't used to something like this. I can't explain it well like he does.

Here's the link to the full interview. I'm sorry I couldn't get the time, it wouldn't play on my computer. http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/3522

josevolution

Man i wish Letterman would of just put Plant on the spot by asking straight up , So why no Tour ...

Johnny Abruzzo

Bronx Bombers wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Anybody pick up this months RS if you haven't please do so ....

Still wondering how the hell rs left Achilles off of there top 40 LZ songs.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists ... e-20121107

I have trouble keeping it out of the Top 1. RS lists are, um, special.


Anyone who gave Zep albums poor reviews back then, and Grammy people who never nominated them for anything, must really feel like idiots now.

Johnny Abruzzo

musicismylife78 wrote:

I dont see Zep as having a defacto leader. What made them the 2nd greatest band of all time, is the virtuosity of every single member of the band, every one of them has a claim as the greatest musician ever at their instrument, including Plant who didnt play an instrument. Seems to me all 4 came to the table with ideas and things to bring to the songs and albums and contributed equally. I dont get the feeling Bonzo, or JPJ were shy about bringing in riffs or musical ideas, and i think plant and page knew the absurd amount of talent they possessed, individually and as a band.

Its kind of like arguing which Beatle is better. We all have our personal favorite, but what made both bands so deadly and untouchable was how beyond brilliant each individual member was. I find it hard to say which Zep band member I like best. With the caliber of musicianship they assembled its like the ultimate band. They couldnt have been more talented and they couldnt have assembled a more talented band.

Whoever posted prior to me saying people overlook certain Zep band members, I think thats an absolutely insane statement to make. The band was literally perfect. Couldnt have been improved. They sold 300 million plus albums, are in my view the 2nd greatest band of all time, and are revered as the heroes they deserve to be. Could they recieve more credit and awards, yeah they could. But in my view Zep is viewed correctly, and are given the right amount of credit and acclaim and legendary status. For all intents and purposes Plant was a golden haired God and still is, and I dont know any drummer, bassist, or guitarist who doesnt worship bonzo, JPJ, and page respectively.

What they achieved in their careers as a band is sickening and staggering to even consider.

Great post. And their career was rather short too.

They made about 80 or so songs, and their "batting average" - probably at least 70 really good songs out of those 80, so a batting average of about .875. :!: Tell me any other band even approaching that.

Newch91

Page, why did you have to write some great but complicated stuff on guitar? "The Rain Song" was killing me tonight.

musicismylife78

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

I dont see Zep as having a defacto leader. What made them the 2nd greatest band of all time, is the virtuosity of every single member of the band, every one of them has a claim as the greatest musician ever at their instrument, including Plant who didnt play an instrument. Seems to me all 4 came to the table with ideas and things to bring to the songs and albums and contributed equally. I dont get the feeling Bonzo, or JPJ were shy about bringing in riffs or musical ideas, and i think plant and page knew the absurd amount of talent they possessed, individually and as a band.

Its kind of like arguing which Beatle is better. We all have our personal favorite, but what made both bands so deadly and untouchable was how beyond brilliant each individual member was. I find it hard to say which Zep band member I like best. With the caliber of musicianship they assembled its like the ultimate band. They couldnt have been more talented and they couldnt have assembled a more talented band.

Whoever posted prior to me saying people overlook certain Zep band members, I think thats an absolutely insane statement to make. The band was literally perfect. Couldnt have been improved. They sold 300 million plus albums, are in my view the 2nd greatest band of all time, and are revered as the heroes they deserve to be. Could they recieve more credit and awards, yeah they could. But in my view Zep is viewed correctly, and are given the right amount of credit and acclaim and legendary status. For all intents and purposes Plant was a golden haired God and still is, and I dont know any drummer, bassist, or guitarist who doesnt worship bonzo, JPJ, and page respectively.

What they achieved in their careers as a band is sickening and staggering to even consider.

Great post. And their career was rather short too.

They made about 80 or so songs, and their "batting average" - probably at least 70 really good songs out of those 80, so a batting average of about .875. :!: Tell me any other band even approaching that.

Excellent point. Didnt every single one of their albums have a tracklist of only 8 songs? Its funny because people moan about short albums nowadays, the last Radiohead album for example, but in reality, most if not all of the beatles albums were 30 minutes or so total, and Zeps albums only had 8 songs. And as you point out, for Zep nearly every song they did was amazing. That said Ive never been too keen on In through the out door, or coda. But every single other album they did is essential.

What about the beatles for batting average? 12 studio albums, 217 songs. There are very few beatles songs that are bad. Anyone read that 1980 interview Lennon did where it seemed like the interviewer went through nearly every single beatles song and asked John did opinion of it. and nearly every song Lennon said it was a throwaway and rubbish song. Strange how artists can see their work as being trash, and then the larger public view it as essentially Biblical scripture