The Beatles - can never understand why they are placed so high, The Beach boys are better
THANK YOU. Any time I say anything bad about the Beatles everyone around me instantly looks at me as though I'm crazy. I don't like them. In fact, I can't stand them. Get over it!
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Good god, I certainly hope not. First, because they suck. But more importantly, because I really like Alter Bridge and don't want that fucker Scott Stapp doing anything that might threaten to break them up.
The rest of Creed is alot better off without Stapp. Alter Bridge is great!
I read several months ago about the possibility of a Creed reunion, but given that I have spent most of my adult life trying to avoid that band, I have not heard any updates. Are they really gonna do this?
Say it ain't so!
Yeah. Actually I just recently seen an interview with Scott Stapp and they're reuniting for this next year:
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04/14 - Chicago Theatre - Chicago, IL ("Human Clay")
04/16 - Tower Theatre - Philadelphia, PA ("My Own Prison")
04/17 - Tower Theatre - Philadelphia, PA ("Human Clay")
04/19 - Beacon Theatre - New York, NY ("My Own Prison")
04/20 - Beacon Theatre - New York, NY ("Human Clay")
Hopefully this week-long 'tour' will be all we get. :P
Reading through this thread I think it's important to realize the difference between thinking an artist is overrated, and just simply not liking an artist who is popular but still understanding why they are popular.
There are many artists I don't like, but I realize they are talented, although sometimes grudgingly. For instance Celine Dion. I hate her music, can't stand it. But she is a talented woman with a crazy set of pipes. Unfortunately for me she uses them on a style of music that makes me cringe. So I don't think she is "overrated".
Stevie Ray Vaughn I like a little bit more because of the fact he played rock music. But I don't care for any of it. I can listen to it and be blown away by his technical skill with a guitar, and realize he was an insanely talented individual, but the music he plays with that talent does nothing for me. So while I don't own his music, I support it in theory, and understand WHY he is so highly regarded.
I personally love The Beatles, and realistically I don't think there can really be any argument made for them being overrated. Maybe somebody doesn't like them, but their importance to rock/pop music is immeasurable. Michael Jackson who I'm personally not a fan of is in the same boat. He broke new ground, and had talent. Just not the type of talent that pleases my ears.
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Reading through this thread I think it's important to realize the difference between thinking an artist is overrated, and just simply not liking an artist who is popular but still understanding why they are popular.
There are many artists I don't like, but I realize they are talented, although sometimes grudgingly. For instance Celine Dion. I hate her music, can't stand it. But she is a talented woman with a crazy set of pipes. Unfortunately for me she uses them on a style of music that makes me cringe. So I don't think she is "overrated".
Stevie Ray Vaughn I like a little bit more because of the fact he played rock music. But I don't care for any of it. I can listen to it and be blown away by his technical skill with a guitar, and realize he was an insanely talented individual, but the music he plays with that talent does nothing for me. So while I don't own his music, I support it in theory, and understand WHY he is so highly regarded.
I personally love The Beatles, and realistically I don't think there can really be any argument made for them being overrated. Maybe somebody doesn't like them, but their importance to rock/pop music is immeasurable. Michael Jackson who I'm personally not a fan of is in the same boat. He broke new ground, and had talent. Just not the type of talent that pleases my ears.
Great post.
I realize that Bob Dylan is immensely talented, at least on some level (more songwriting than, say, singing). His music doesn't do much for me, but I would not call him overrated. Obviously many many people are touched by his genius; who am I to put him and them down by calling the man "overrated?"
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Reading through this thread I think it's important to realize the difference between thinking an artist is overrated, and just simply not liking an artist who is popular but still understanding why they are popular.
There are many artists I don't like, but I realize they are talented, although sometimes grudgingly. For instance Celine Dion. I hate her music, can't stand it. But she is a talented woman with a crazy set of pipes. Unfortunately for me she uses them on a style of music that makes me cringe. So I don't think she is "overrated".
Stevie Ray Vaughn I like a little bit more because of the fact he played rock music. But I don't care for any of it. I can listen to it and be blown away by his technical skill with a guitar, and realize he was an insanely talented individual, but the music he plays with that talent does nothing for me. So while I don't own his music, I support it in theory, and understand WHY he is so highly regarded.
I personally love The Beatles, and realistically I don't think there can really be any argument made for them being overrated. Maybe somebody doesn't like them, but their importance to rock/pop music is immeasurable. Michael Jackson who I'm personally not a fan of is in the same boat. He broke new ground, and had talent. Just not the type of talent that pleases my ears.
Touche sir! I think my hate for the Beatles clouds my brain sometimes. Most overrated artist in my opinion? I'd probably have to say Green Day.
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I think any of these people deserve credit in their own way because they're writing, singing, putting on shows, doing whatever they do. They're putting it out there. However, all these bands and singer/songwriters all have some sort of fan base that will fight you to the end that that specific act is talented/not overrated or whatever else you may have against them. So I kind of view it as the same thing. I can tell somebody that I don't like their band because XYZ and they may argue it. I can also tell someone that I think they're band is overrated and don't have as much talent as they get credit for, and they can argue it for the same exact reasons. I wouldn't call my list overrated then. I wouldn't call anybody in this thread overrated because they all have talent in their own ways or they wouldn't be successful. It should just be an artists you don't care for thread.
I was going to say Nirvana but to me the one truly "overrated" band by definition is Radiohead. All of you guys are just naming popular bands that most people like, which in no way makes them overrated. Popular opinion has never been a measuring stick of talent or the critical praise they receive.
There is only one band that could make an album of each member taking a dump on a microphone or whistling game show theme songs and it be declared a revolutionary piece of brilliant "art" ( :roll: ), and that band is Radiohead. Now for the record I do enjoy me some Radiohead, but I have NEVER seen a band so irresponsibly praised for mediocrity before. U2 have gotten bashed in the last 10-20 years for various things and so have many others that have been mentioned here. But not Radiohead. They can't be touched for some reason (and please spare me the "because they ARE perfect BS ).
I've gotta agree with what some others have said, I don't think the term 'overrated' really carries much merit. For example, I've noticed quite a few people saying they think Lady Gaga is overrated, and whilst I can't say her music does a whole lot for me, I think she is insanely talented. She's got a great voice for a start - I saw her on a chat show the other day and she sat and played the piano (very well) and gave an incredible vocal performance. She also writes her own stuff, she plays instruments, she sings live, she designs her stage shows her self - she is ambition personified. And even though on the surface she might be deemed as comparable with someone like Britney Spears, she quite clearly has a hell of a lot more talent and therefore deserves credit for that.
Foo Fighters, My Morning Jacket, Wilco, RHCP, Jane's Addiction, U2, Green Day, My Chemical Romance, Coldplay, Metallica, Linkin Park, Kid Rock, System Of A Down.... to name a few! Don't get me wrong, I have albums from most of these artists but feel like their best days are long gone (Foo Fighters, Wilco, Coldplay, U2, Wilco, RHCP). Metallica wasted a good decade with some pretty awful albums until Death Magnetic. I bought Green Day, American Idiot but I thought they peaked with Warning which I know some people hate and as for MMJ, MCR, Kid Rock, Linkin Park and SOAD, I don't get what they do and why so many people like it? :?
Each to their own I guess....
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i agree with many choices on this thread. the beatles did make strawberry fields as a result of competing with the beach boys...i respect the beatles, though. they have influenced 5 generations of music as have led zep & the stones,dylan, neil, bruce, pink floyd, the doors. most music released since the big 4 in seattle, though has been utter shit. coldplay & radiohead, 1st couple of records, cool, then blah... sad bastard music. gaga & bieber= fame whores. all these singing competition shows killed music. so, everything is disposable shit, save for a few bands....
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^ Totally agree about all these TV shows (American Idol and the like) killing music. They have artificially inflated the perceived value of pop - not that it's not legitimate...but I do think that those shows lead the industry to believe that pop has alot more fans than it really has compared to rock.
The industry has just not been focused on rock in recent years. A few good bands have risen above the general dregs...but not nearly as many as could have been, if the industry had put any effort into finding good rock bands.
I think about everything is disposable these days, which is unfortunate. I hope that changes soon. But I'm not holding my breath.
Fortunately for us, bands like PJ are here to keep us occupied and keep us looking forward to good new music!
Reading through this thread I think it's important to realize the difference between thinking an artist is overrated, and just simply not liking an artist who is popular but still understanding why they are popular.
There are many artists I don't like, but I realize they are talented, although sometimes grudgingly. For instance Celine Dion. I hate her music, can't stand it. But she is a talented woman with a crazy set of pipes. Unfortunately for me she uses them on a style of music that makes me cringe. So I don't think she is "overrated".
Stevie Ray Vaughn I like a little bit more because of the fact he played rock music. But I don't care for any of it. I can listen to it and be blown away by his technical skill with a guitar, and realize he was an insanely talented individual, but the music he plays with that talent does nothing for me. So while I don't own his music, I support it in theory, and understand WHY he is so highly regarded.
I personally love The Beatles, and realistically I don't think there can really be any argument made for them being overrated. Maybe somebody doesn't like them, but their importance to rock/pop music is immeasurable. Michael Jackson who I'm personally not a fan of is in the same boat. He broke new ground, and had talent. Just not the type of talent that pleases my ears.
In the title of this thread it does say in your opinion! And surely when a band becomes popular that would make them 'rated' in a lot of peoples mind?! So if someone didn't understand why people liked them they would view them as overrated?! For example, a lot of people talk about how great U2 are...both in terms of their song writing and their musical abilities, but to me they write the most mediocre music and the edge is one of the most boring guitarists I can think of. So for that reason I see them as overrated.
I love the Beatles too, but I can see why somebody would say they were overrated...They've written some great songs, but they've also written some really shit songs, but because they're 'the Beatles' a lot of people won't hear a bad word against them. Also, recently I saw that ringo came 3rd in an online poll for great drummers...I'm sure even ringo would agree that he probably wasn't even the best drummer in the Beatles, let alone one of the greatest in the world! So by definition that would make him an overrated drummer!
Radiohead - that shit puts me to sleep
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Why is everyone on the Pearl Jam Other Music forum obsessed with hating Creed & Nickelback? Just don't mention them. They're not overrated because everyone knows they suck. You're missing the point. At any time there's usually a couple threads about either of these bands and how horrible they are on Page 1 of Other Music. WTF :roll:
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I don't get the Radiohead love either....just not interested in their work
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In the title of this thread it does say in your opinion! And surely when a band becomes popular that would make them 'rated' in a lot of peoples mind?! So if someone didn't understand why people liked them they would view them as overrated?!
I wasn't saying that nobody should think, or have an opinion on, who is overrated. I was just noticing in a lot of posts people were listing popular bands they didn't like. And I was pointing out that thinking somebody is overrated and just not liking them are two different things. Thinking somebody is overrated means that you feel they are undeserving of the praise they receive, and that should be based on merit and not simply taste. You can respect an artists abilities and not like them at the same time.
I love the Beatles too, but I can see why somebody would say they were overrated...They've written some great songs, but they've also written some really shit songs, but because they're 'the Beatles' a lot of people won't hear a bad word against them.
That can be said about many bands. Usually a band is rated on their strengths, not by focusing on the negative. People don't judge/rate Pearl Jam based on "Sweet Lew", "Stupid Mop", "Red Dot", etc.
Also, recently I saw that ringo came 3rd in an online poll for great drummers...I'm sure even ringo would agree that he probably wasn't even the best drummer in the Beatles, let alone one of the greatest in the world! So by definition that would make him an overrated drummer!
Ringo wasn't the most technically skilled drummer, but he had his own style that is highly copied. I think these lists sometimes give merit to style/originality over substance sometimes. Just like The Edge making guitar lists. He'll be the first to admit that he's not that technically skilled and mainly relies on effects pedals to get the job done, but his style is unique and recognizable, which counts for something I guess. Personally I can take him or leave him.
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I love the Beatles too, but I can see why somebody would say they were overrated...They've written some great songs, but they've also written some really shit songs, but because they're 'the Beatles' a lot of people won't hear a bad word against them.
That can be said about many bands. Usually a band is rated on their strengths, not by focusing on the negative. People don't judge/rate Pearl Jam based on "Sweet Lew", "Stupid Mop", "Red Dot", etc.
And we're talking about a band that was pressured to put out 2 or 3 albums a year, full of 14 2 or 3 minute songs. This at a time when albums full of good material were not common in rock & pop music at all. They were entitled to a few clunkers here and there - They made I think well over 200 songs.
You're entitled to your opinion that the Beatles were overrated, but, it's, ummm, not correct.
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I think it was fitting for them to be on the last twilight soundtrack. Twilight bullshit movies deserve Muse as a bullshit band
U2 has had some great records in their career( not too many in the last decade IMO) but the fact they buy into their own hype makes them unlistenable. Wankers
Dave Matthews band! Is it because Dave is such a nice guy in his fans eyes?? Cause their music is terrible.... Lot of their fans are bigger zombies than us
Arcade fire..... Boring
Bush..... Lotta ladies like them for obvious reasons.... Just terrible
Sublime.... I own records and use to be a regular listener when I was a teenager. I don't get it anymore. Corny
Kings of Leon....... Not very good
Bon jovi ...... Anyone outside of Jersey really listen to that shit?
Bon jovi ...... Anyone outside of Jersey really listen to that shit?
people in Jersey still like him??!! :shock:
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Why is everyone on the Pearl Jam Other Music forum obsessed with hating Creed & Nickelback? Just don't mention them. They're not overrated because everyone knows they suck. You're missing the point. At any time there's usually a couple threads about either of these bands and how horrible they are on Page 1 of Other Music. WTF :roll:
Yea I wish we could just all stop talking about them.
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Good call. Definitely an overrated band in my opinion too.
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Why is everyone on the Pearl Jam Other Music forum obsessed with hating Creed & Nickelback? Just don't mention them. They're not overrated because everyone knows they suck. You're missing the point. At any time there's usually a couple threads about either of these bands and how horrible they are on Page 1 of Other Music. WTF :roll:
Well, given that both bands were hugely popular among the general public...and monopolized the airwaves of sundry radio stations for quite some time, I'm not sure 'everyone' got the memo.
I thought Nickelback was nominated for a Grammy, in fact...and won some American Music Awards, etc. And is one of the best selling non-American bands in the US ever.
So yeah....I'm not at all sure 'everyone' got that memo about how much they suck.
As for Creed...I think that a lot of PJ fans dislike them in particular...but I don't think the prevailing opinion among PJ fans is the prevailing opinion among the general population....
I am deeply saddened that I skimmed this thread and saw the Beach Boys used only as "better than the Beatles", but not as "overrated".
Unless I missed it, allow me to be the first to nominate the Beach Boys as most overrated. Man do I hate the Beach Boys; every song...every high-pitched pop surf tune. Yet they are so beloved that one of the albums is generally considered among the top 5 of all time and nobody hear has considered them over-rated (and you guys have named just about everyone else).
I guess I'm continually amazed that more people are not thoroughly annoyed by them.
Others:
GnR: They certainly had promise to be great, but instead Axl acted like a jackass and they faded away for over a decade. And the albums they did put out had some good songs, but TONS of filler.
U2: They have some good songs, but they've probably been the most popular band in the world (not the US; the world) for most of the last 25 years...
Michael Jackson: He deserves to be "rated" well, but as someone else in this thread already said, he had some great pop music in the 80s then became the sad creature he became. If his head had been on straight, he could have done even more.
Nirvana: I admit, I probably give too much credit to longevity (see my GNR pick), but they were not around enough to be considered as great as they are. I'll go a step further and say that their place in history is overrated. Yeah they were key in the "Seattle Sound"/"Grunge" movement and "Teen Spirit" is the best choice as the "breakthrough" song for the genre, but that's ALL anyone talks about...A lot of other great bands were a part of that time. And I'll go to my grave believing that PJ was more popular (not that I need that...but it's indicative of the importance of Cobain's suicide in how well we remember Nirvana).
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I am deeply saddened that I skimmed this thread and saw the Beach Boys used only as "better than the Beatles", but not as "overrated".
Unless I missed it, allow me to be the first to nominate the Beach Boys as most overrated. Man do I hate the Beach Boys; every song...every high-pitched pop surf tune. Yet they are so beloved that one of the albums is generally considered among the top 5 of all time and nobody hear has considered them over-rated (and you guys have named just about everyone else).
I will say this about the Beach Boys, and one thing that's bothered me about them is that on their best album, the one that's always in the top 5 of all-time greatest albums lists, the Beach Boys basically just sang on it. The rest of the band was out touring and Brian was in the studio with an army of over 60 session musicians putting together the album, then the rest of the band laid down vocals, and that's Pet Sounds.
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and I completely agree about the Beach Boys, equally as annoying
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THANK YOU. Any time I say anything bad about the Beatles everyone around me instantly looks at me as though I'm crazy. I don't like them. In fact, I can't stand them. Get over it!
Yeah. No doubt about it - that song blows.
Hopefully this week-long 'tour' will be all we get. :P
Go, Alter Bridge!
There are many artists I don't like, but I realize they are talented, although sometimes grudgingly. For instance Celine Dion. I hate her music, can't stand it. But she is a talented woman with a crazy set of pipes. Unfortunately for me she uses them on a style of music that makes me cringe. So I don't think she is "overrated".
Stevie Ray Vaughn I like a little bit more because of the fact he played rock music. But I don't care for any of it. I can listen to it and be blown away by his technical skill with a guitar, and realize he was an insanely talented individual, but the music he plays with that talent does nothing for me. So while I don't own his music, I support it in theory, and understand WHY he is so highly regarded.
I personally love The Beatles, and realistically I don't think there can really be any argument made for them being overrated. Maybe somebody doesn't like them, but their importance to rock/pop music is immeasurable. Michael Jackson who I'm personally not a fan of is in the same boat. He broke new ground, and had talent. Just not the type of talent that pleases my ears.
Great post.
I realize that Bob Dylan is immensely talented, at least on some level (more songwriting than, say, singing). His music doesn't do much for me, but I would not call him overrated. Obviously many many people are touched by his genius; who am I to put him and them down by calling the man "overrated?"
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Touche sir! I think my hate for the Beatles clouds my brain sometimes. Most overrated artist in my opinion? I'd probably have to say Green Day.
There is only one band that could make an album of each member taking a dump on a microphone or whistling game show theme songs and it be declared a revolutionary piece of brilliant "art" ( :roll: ), and that band is Radiohead. Now for the record I do enjoy me some Radiohead, but I have NEVER seen a band so irresponsibly praised for mediocrity before. U2 have gotten bashed in the last 10-20 years for various things and so have many others that have been mentioned here. But not Radiohead. They can't be touched for some reason (and please spare me the "because they ARE perfect BS
Each to their own I guess....
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The industry has just not been focused on rock in recent years. A few good bands have risen above the general dregs...but not nearly as many as could have been, if the industry had put any effort into finding good rock bands.
I think about everything is disposable these days, which is unfortunate. I hope that changes soon. But I'm not holding my breath.
Fortunately for us, bands like PJ are here to keep us occupied and keep us looking forward to good new music!
In the title of this thread it does say in your opinion! And surely when a band becomes popular that would make them 'rated' in a lot of peoples mind?! So if someone didn't understand why people liked them they would view them as overrated?! For example, a lot of people talk about how great U2 are...both in terms of their song writing and their musical abilities, but to me they write the most mediocre music and the edge is one of the most boring guitarists I can think of. So for that reason I see them as overrated.
I love the Beatles too, but I can see why somebody would say they were overrated...They've written some great songs, but they've also written some really shit songs, but because they're 'the Beatles' a lot of people won't hear a bad word against them. Also, recently I saw that ringo came 3rd in an online poll for great drummers...I'm sure even ringo would agree that he probably wasn't even the best drummer in the Beatles, let alone one of the greatest in the world! So by definition that would make him an overrated drummer!
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Queen - no thanks
Kiss - makeup does not make you a great band
Slipknot - wearing masks don't make you a great band
Limp Bizkit - having a dj guy doing his little breakdown thing does not make you a great band
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I wasn't saying that nobody should think, or have an opinion on, who is overrated. I was just noticing in a lot of posts people were listing popular bands they didn't like. And I was pointing out that thinking somebody is overrated and just not liking them are two different things. Thinking somebody is overrated means that you feel they are undeserving of the praise they receive, and that should be based on merit and not simply taste. You can respect an artists abilities and not like them at the same time.
That can be said about many bands. Usually a band is rated on their strengths, not by focusing on the negative. People don't judge/rate Pearl Jam based on "Sweet Lew", "Stupid Mop", "Red Dot", etc.
Ringo wasn't the most technically skilled drummer, but he had his own style that is highly copied. I think these lists sometimes give merit to style/originality over substance sometimes. Just like The Edge making guitar lists. He'll be the first to admit that he's not that technically skilled and mainly relies on effects pedals to get the job done, but his style is unique and recognizable, which counts for something I guess. Personally I can take him or leave him.
And we're talking about a band that was pressured to put out 2 or 3 albums a year, full of 14 2 or 3 minute songs. This at a time when albums full of good material were not common in rock & pop music at all. They were entitled to a few clunkers here and there - They made I think well over 200 songs.
You're entitled to your opinion that the Beatles were overrated, but, it's, ummm, not correct.
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Muse
Muse
And oh yea Muse
I think it was fitting for them to be on the last twilight soundtrack. Twilight bullshit movies deserve Muse as a bullshit band
U2 has had some great records in their career( not too many in the last decade IMO) but the fact they buy into their own hype makes them unlistenable. Wankers
Dave Matthews band! Is it because Dave is such a nice guy in his fans eyes?? Cause their music is terrible.... Lot of their fans are bigger zombies than us
Arcade fire..... Boring
Bush..... Lotta ladies like them for obvious reasons.... Just terrible
Sublime.... I own records and use to be a regular listener when I was a teenager. I don't get it anymore. Corny
Kings of Leon....... Not very good
Bon jovi ...... Anyone outside of Jersey really listen to that shit?
The Beatles
Metallica
GnR
Michael Jackson
These were your picks
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You sir, have a lot of growing up to do
Just kidding man.
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Yea I wish we could just all stop talking about them.
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2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
Good call. Definitely an overrated band in my opinion too.
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Well, given that both bands were hugely popular among the general public...and monopolized the airwaves of sundry radio stations for quite some time, I'm not sure 'everyone' got the memo.
I thought Nickelback was nominated for a Grammy, in fact...and won some American Music Awards, etc. And is one of the best selling non-American bands in the US ever.
So yeah....I'm not at all sure 'everyone' got that memo about how much they suck.
As for Creed...I think that a lot of PJ fans dislike them in particular...but I don't think the prevailing opinion among PJ fans is the prevailing opinion among the general population....
Unless I missed it, allow me to be the first to nominate the Beach Boys as most overrated. Man do I hate the Beach Boys; every song...every high-pitched pop surf tune. Yet they are so beloved that one of the albums is generally considered among the top 5 of all time and nobody hear has considered them over-rated (and you guys have named just about everyone else).
I guess I'm continually amazed that more people are not thoroughly annoyed by them.
Others:
GnR: They certainly had promise to be great, but instead Axl acted like a jackass and they faded away for over a decade. And the albums they did put out had some good songs, but TONS of filler.
U2: They have some good songs, but they've probably been the most popular band in the world (not the US; the world) for most of the last 25 years...
Michael Jackson: He deserves to be "rated" well, but as someone else in this thread already said, he had some great pop music in the 80s then became the sad creature he became. If his head had been on straight, he could have done even more.
Nirvana: I admit, I probably give too much credit to longevity (see my GNR pick), but they were not around enough to be considered as great as they are. I'll go a step further and say that their place in history is overrated. Yeah they were key in the "Seattle Sound"/"Grunge" movement and "Teen Spirit" is the best choice as the "breakthrough" song for the genre, but that's ALL anyone talks about...A lot of other great bands were a part of that time. And I'll go to my grave believing that PJ was more popular (not that I need that...but it's indicative of the importance of Cobain's suicide in how well we remember Nirvana).
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I will say this about the Beach Boys, and one thing that's bothered me about them is that on their best album, the one that's always in the top 5 of all-time greatest albums lists, the Beach Boys basically just sang on it. The rest of the band was out touring and Brian was in the studio with an army of over 60 session musicians putting together the album, then the rest of the band laid down vocals, and that's Pet Sounds.
and I completely agree about the Beach Boys, equally as annoying