I have never been a big Led Zep fan. John Bonham is great and all, but I think Black Sabbath is way better. Jimmy Page solos too much and Robert Plant can be a little annoying. Plus they ripped off half their songs from other people.
Why do I even open these threads? :roll:
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Pearl Jam - seriously, are these clowns still around? I mean, Ten was OK, but they've sucked ever since then. They're the poor man's Creed. Hey Eddie Vedder, stop ripping off my man Scott Stapp's style.
"See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
Modest Mouse are awesome.
Some I really don't like:
Foo Fighters- I get that Dave is cool and all, but they are a singles band to me. Love Colour and Shape, but nothing since has really done anything for me. Their albums as a whole just sound incredibly generic to me. And I've seen them live too, still nothing.
Audioslave- OK i guess.
Stone Temple Pilots- Scott Weiland is an absolute tool. Music is boring to me.
U2- War through Achtung is a hell of a streak of albums, but everything after is not very good.
Muse- Really dislike them. Not really sure why.
Pearl Jam - seriously, are these clowns still around? I mean, Ten was OK, but they've sucked ever since then. They're the poor man's Creed. Hey Eddie Vedder, stop ripping off my man Scott Stapp's style.
Plus they ripped off half their songs from other people.
I can respect your opinion but this is a blatant exaggeration. Yeah, most of LZI is ripped off from old blues guys; the band had formed about a month before they recorded that album (it's not like Page/Plant were Lennon/McCartney writing songs for 5 years before they hit it big). But the last 8 albums are almost entirely original songs. Maybe 15-20% of their catalog is ripoffs.
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
“I know this song so well, I can smoke a cigarette, have a drink, brush my teeth, take a shit, and mow the lawn while singing it. But I'll only be doing a couple of those things during this version.”
I think sometimes if you go see a band live, it helps understand the obsession. I was a casual Springsteen fan, and my mom and dad, and two best friends are HUGE HUGE Springsteen fans. My dad and mom took me to see Springsteen, on the "Magic" and I was absolutely amazed. It was like seeing a crowd at Pearl jam. You are in a room full of people who just "get it." Saw him again with my two best friends on the WOAD tour and it was total awesomeness. Really had a whole new appreciation for Springsteen after seeing them live.
I am going to try to see MMJ in a few weeks. Really love their last two records. still need to listen to z proper though. Haven't given that one a full sit down and listen just yet.
Could not agree with you more. Came away from the Magic tour feeling the same way. I can honestly say the same thing about Pearl Jam... I was always more of a casual fan of the band (ie. got Ten when it came out, loved Vs. but after Vitalogy I kind of lost interest in the band) until I saw them live this year and now count PJ as my second favourite musical obsession (right after the Stones). Never have I come away from a show totally blown away by the music (not only the hits but songs I had never listened to... I now count Corduroy among my favourite songs).
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I think sometimes if you go see a band live, it helps understand the obsession. I was a casual Springsteen fan, and my mom and dad, and two best friends are HUGE HUGE Springsteen fans. My dad and mom took me to see Springsteen, on the "Magic" and I was absolutely amazed. It was like seeing a crowd at Pearl jam.
More accurately, seeing the crowd at PJ is like seeing a crowd at Springsteen. Since Springsteen was an awesome live band when the PJ guys were still in elementary school.
But yeah...I thought it was common knowledge that Springsteen live was made of awesome. Not sure how anyone could have missed that - especially anyone who was alive in the 80's.
I think sometimes if you go see a band live, it helps understand the obsession. I was a casual Springsteen fan, and my mom and dad, and two best friends are HUGE HUGE Springsteen fans. My dad and mom took me to see Springsteen, on the "Magic" and I was absolutely amazed. It was like seeing a crowd at Pearl jam.
More accurately, seeing the crowd at PJ is like seeing a crowd at Springsteen. Since Springsteen was already an awesome live band when the PJ guys were still in elementary school.
But yeah...I thought it was common knowledge that Springsteen live was made of awesome. Not sure how anyone could have missed that - especially anyone who was alive in the 80's.
Plus they ripped off half their songs from other people.
I can respect your opinion but this is a blatant exaggeration. Yeah, most of LZI is ripped off from old blues guys; the band had formed about a month before they recorded that album (it's not like Page/Plant were Lennon/McCartney writing songs for 5 years before they hit it big). But the last 8 albums are almost entirely original songs. Maybe 15-20% of their catalog is ripoffs.
They did more then ripp off old blues guys. They ripped off bands they toured with too. As far as only being together a short time, how long was Pearl Jam together before they recorded "Ten"?
I would have to say that Joni Mitchell is the most overrated artist. Technical virtuosity, a superb sense of melody and an original approach to lyrical phrasing she may have, but somehow I find myself turned off by the obsessive introspection of so many of her songs. Give me Dylan any day. He always had an outward- looking, historically and socially aware sensibility that becomes a major artist: Mitchell sounds too much like a whiny, self- preoccupied only child at times and I struggle to be remotely moved by anything she's done. However, I can appreciate that many other people disagree entirely: different strokes for different folks.
Michael Jackson.....and any of his relatives
Grateful Dead
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
I can understand if you don't like him, but to call him overrated baffles me.
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And if his newest album ends up within top 3 of countless amount of Best of lists this year...Bon Iver
and Michael Jackson...overrated, not most overrated, just over-rated. He released two amazing albums, redefined pop stardom through his performances, and built his own style to the point of becoming iconic early in his solo career. But onward he was mediocre and a shadow of himself who was bigger in the headlines rather than his music.
Plus they ripped off half their songs from other people.
I can respect your opinion but this is a blatant exaggeration. Yeah, most of LZI is ripped off from old blues guys; the band had formed about a month before they recorded that album (it's not like Page/Plant were Lennon/McCartney writing songs for 5 years before they hit it big). But the last 8 albums are almost entirely original songs. Maybe 15-20% of their catalog is ripoffs.
They did more then ripp off old blues guys. They ripped off bands they toured with too. As far as only being together a short time, how long was Pearl Jam together before they recorded "Ten"?
I still stand by my 15-20% estimate. About half of that list was traditional songs with no copyright anyway. Besides, listen to Killin Floor by Howlin Wolf and compare to the Lemon Song. By the time Zep was done with it it was a whole other thing. Bottom line is they were a revolutionary and diverse rock & roll band and nobody ever did it better.
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
I think sometimes if you go see a band live, it helps understand the obsession. I was a casual Springsteen fan, and my mom and dad, and two best friends are HUGE HUGE Springsteen fans. My dad and mom took me to see Springsteen, on the "Magic" and I was absolutely amazed. It was like seeing a crowd at Pearl jam.
More accurately, seeing the crowd at PJ is like seeing a crowd at Springsteen. Since Springsteen was an awesome live band when the PJ guys were still in elementary school.
But yeah...I thought it was common knowledge that Springsteen live was made of awesome. Not sure how anyone could have missed that - especially anyone who was alive in the 80's.
Saw him in 78. But the all time greatest Springsteen Show I saw was New Years Eve 1980 at Nassua Colisium. 4 1/2 hours of the best Rock n Roll I have ever seen. I also saw his last show in Bufallo (Clarance's Last Show). Anyone who thinks Springsteen is overrated is high.
Springsteen puts on one of the best shows ever, in my opinion. Epic 3 + hour long shows, no opening acts...bruce dancing and running around. It's one thing to not like the guy's music..but he truly gives it his all. I also recommend the darkness documentary..talk about a group of people dedicated to their craft!
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Springsteen puts on one of the best shows ever, in my opinion. Epic 3 + hour long shows, no opening acts...bruce dancing and running around. It's one thing to not like the guy's music..but he truly gives it his all. I also recommend the darkness documentary..talk about a group of people dedicated to their craft!
Springsteen puts on one of the best shows ever, in my opinion. Epic 3 + hour long shows, no opening acts...bruce dancing and running around. It's one thing to not like the guy's music..but he truly gives it his all. I also recommend the darkness documentary..talk about a group of people dedicated to their craft!
Snare
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"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
Springsteen puts on one of the best shows ever, in my opinion. Epic 3 + hour long shows, no opening acts...bruce dancing and running around. It's one thing to not like the guy's music..but he truly gives it his all. I also recommend the darkness documentary..talk about a group of people dedicated to their craft!
+1.
Couldn't agree more with both of you guys.
I don't think that Bruce Springsteen knows how to do ANYTHING halfway. If he does it, he gives it his absolute best effort - as does the rest of the E Street Band. And the thing is, they LOVE what they do - and it shows. Over the course of their career, they have done hundreds and hundreds of shows...but I have NEVER seen The E Street Band having a bad time - they are still having FUN, every time they hit that stage.
I too have been to several Springsteen shows, and there is no harder working band out there. They play long and they play hard and they play well. They give it their all, each and every time out, and I have never left a Springsteen show feeling that they didn't give MORE than top value for my concert dollar.
It is no mistake that PJ and Springsteen are my two favorite bands. Both are hard working bands who care deeply about their fans and giving the fans their all. Both possess brilliant songwriting capabilities, both possess fabulous musicianship that make their live performances wonderful...and both never take what they have for granted or become arrogant, with that smarmy 'rock star' 'tude that is so juvenile. Both of these bands are loaded with integrity - both musically and personally, and I admire that a lot.
These two bands, IMO, are the two classiest acts out there, bar none.
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Is Modest Mouse even rated? And Wilco is awesome.
it will be wrapped in the FLAG and
carrying a CROSS.
As for Modest Mouse, they had been hyped up and I just didn't get why.
U2 (post Achtung)
Nirvana (i like Bleach & that's it)
Smashing Pumpkins (can't get past his voice)
Coldplay
The Eagles
Rush (see pumpkins)
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Why do I even open these threads? :roll:
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Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Some I really don't like:
Foo Fighters- I get that Dave is cool and all, but they are a singles band to me. Love Colour and Shape, but nothing since has really done anything for me. Their albums as a whole just sound incredibly generic to me. And I've seen them live too, still nothing.
Audioslave- OK i guess.
Stone Temple Pilots- Scott Weiland is an absolute tool. Music is boring to me.
U2- War through Achtung is a hell of a streak of albums, but everything after is not very good.
Muse- Really dislike them. Not really sure why.
but mainly Foo Fighters.
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I can respect your opinion but this is a blatant exaggeration. Yeah, most of LZI is ripped off from old blues guys; the band had formed about a month before they recorded that album (it's not like Page/Plant were Lennon/McCartney writing songs for 5 years before they hit it big). But the last 8 albums are almost entirely original songs. Maybe 15-20% of their catalog is ripoffs.
WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Metallica
well played
that album is not good.
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Could not agree with you more. Came away from the Magic tour feeling the same way. I can honestly say the same thing about Pearl Jam... I was always more of a casual fan of the band (ie. got Ten when it came out, loved Vs. but after Vitalogy I kind of lost interest in the band) until I saw them live this year and now count PJ as my second favourite musical obsession (right after the Stones). Never have I come away from a show totally blown away by the music (not only the hits but songs I had never listened to... I now count Corduroy among my favourite songs).
London 2013 "The Dundas Hookers on Crack" Show
4/5,6/9/2003, 9/1/05, 12/7/2005, 7/15,16,18/2006, 8/5/2007
6/24,25/08,6/27/08,6/28/08,6/30/08
9/21,22/2009, 10/4/2009
5/6,7,9/2010, 9/3/2011 9/4/2011, 11/15/2013,
11/16/2013, 12/8/2013, 10/5/2014, 10/12/2014,
4/23, 5/10, 5/12, 8/20, 8/22 2016,
8/8, 8/10, 8/18, 8/20 2018, 5/12, 5/13, 9/20 2022
I figured .... overrated :?
their fans love them, they must be doing something right
I just know who the bestest band ever is
More accurately, seeing the crowd at PJ is like seeing a crowd at Springsteen. Since Springsteen was an awesome live band when the PJ guys were still in elementary school.
But yeah...I thought it was common knowledge that Springsteen live was made of awesome. Not sure how anyone could have missed that - especially anyone who was alive in the 80's.
They did more then ripp off old blues guys. They ripped off bands they toured with too. As far as only being together a short time, how long was Pearl Jam together before they recorded "Ten"?
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I can understand if you don't like him, but to call him overrated baffles me.
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
Mumford & Sons
Florence + the Machine
And if his newest album ends up within top 3 of countless amount of Best of lists this year...Bon Iver
and Michael Jackson...overrated, not most overrated, just over-rated. He released two amazing albums, redefined pop stardom through his performances, and built his own style to the point of becoming iconic early in his solo career. But onward he was mediocre and a shadow of himself who was bigger in the headlines rather than his music.
I still stand by my 15-20% estimate. About half of that list was traditional songs with no copyright anyway. Besides, listen to Killin Floor by Howlin Wolf and compare to the Lemon Song. By the time Zep was done with it it was a whole other thing. Bottom line is they were a revolutionary and diverse rock & roll band and nobody ever did it better.
WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Saw him in 78. But the all time greatest Springsteen Show I saw was New Years Eve 1980 at Nassua Colisium. 4 1/2 hours of the best Rock n Roll I have ever seen. I also saw his last show in Bufallo (Clarance's Last Show). Anyone who thinks Springsteen is overrated is high.
You're right. You are a monster! You are sick! Get help!
At least, I am not a fuck-up! A lying fuck-up!
...who exactly overrates the Grateful Dead?
(because if its just the fans, it doesn't count does it?)
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
+1.
Couldn't agree more with both of you guys.
I don't think that Bruce Springsteen knows how to do ANYTHING halfway. If he does it, he gives it his absolute best effort - as does the rest of the E Street Band. And the thing is, they LOVE what they do - and it shows. Over the course of their career, they have done hundreds and hundreds of shows...but I have NEVER seen The E Street Band having a bad time - they are still having FUN, every time they hit that stage.
I too have been to several Springsteen shows, and there is no harder working band out there. They play long and they play hard and they play well. They give it their all, each and every time out, and I have never left a Springsteen show feeling that they didn't give MORE than top value for my concert dollar.
It is no mistake that PJ and Springsteen are my two favorite bands. Both are hard working bands who care deeply about their fans and giving the fans their all. Both possess brilliant songwriting capabilities, both possess fabulous musicianship that make their live performances wonderful...and both never take what they have for granted or become arrogant, with that smarmy 'rock star' 'tude that is so juvenile. Both of these bands are loaded with integrity - both musically and personally, and I admire that a lot.
These two bands, IMO, are the two classiest acts out there, bar none.