Homeland

grooveme

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

Indifference71 wrote:

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

That's true, though if they can show the VP not having any security when brody kills him, perhaps they can write something in that allows Nazir to skirt the testing and fool the CIA. Also what's the deal with Carrie with calling him Brody? To me, the fact that his wife and girlfriend never use his first name is bizarre.

True....keeping it realistic hasn't been a strength of the show this season. ALthough I do think that really was Nazir. He was willing to sacrifice himself for the bigger attack to go down. With Nazir dead, it seemed like the CIA kinda let its guard down for an awful attack like that to happen.

I always thought it was weird that everyone called him by his last name. I think the only person who used his first name was Nazir. He always called him 'Nicholas'. I think the VP called him Nick too. Other than that, everyone called him Brody.

That's an interesting contrast, one guy is the guy he's torn about and the other is someone he hates and winds up killing even if it was for saving Carrie.

Hmm, so if you call him by his first name you wind up dead, eh.

The Juggler

hedonist wrote:

I'm already jonesing for next season.

Couple things:

Loved the scene with Quinn & Estes ("I kill the bad guys"), but now Quinn knows Brody is Muslim. Carrie doesn't know this, correct? When they were at the cabin, and he told her she already knows everything about him? Not to mention the Walden thing...

And I thought Dana was gonna ask to go to the memorial with Brody, when they were speaking while he was getting dressed. Also, this chick speaks like her jaw's been wired shut.

The scene of the shrouding/burial of Nazir...is that respect in death for people like him typical? And actually worthy of saying the Kaddish? Perhaps that's simply protocol, but it struck me as odd (and in another odd way, kind of...humane).

So anyone think Carrie came back to tell Saul she wants back in with the CIA, or that she's going to go off into the wild blue yonder with the guy that most everyone refuses to call by his first name?

you might have a point about them knowing if he's muslim or not. i guess i kind of assuemd carrie knew but he left out the part where him and nazir prayed a few episodes back.

we did the same burial at sea for bin laden.

she's telling him she's staying the cia. i think she will tell him the truth about what happened and they will both work to find the people responsible (i still think its al queda) and, as a result, clear brody's name...of this at least.

The Juggler

grooveme wrote:

IQuinn's scene with Estes was priceless and I'm sure won Rupert Friend more than a few new fans.

i think it's one of the best scense of the entire series so far. i love the way they shot it too with the wide angle and quin's sort of in the shadows. not zooming in for a close up enhanced the creepiness.

quinn's character is a lot more interesting to me after watching the finale.

grooveme

The Juggler wrote:

grooveme wrote:

IQuinn's scene with Estes was priceless and I'm sure won Rupert Friend more than a few new fans.

i think it's one of the best scense of the entire series so far. i love the way they shot it too with the wide angle and quin's sort of in the shadows. not zooming in for a close up enhanced the creepiness.

quinn's character is a lot more interesting to me after watching the finale.

Oh yeah it was masterfully done - the closer shot only came at the end, making it much more powerful when Quinn stood up, Estes noticed the gun, and Quinn threatened him.

Indifference71

The Juggler wrote:

hedonist wrote:

I'm already jonesing for next season.

Couple things:

Loved the scene with Quinn & Estes ("I kill the bad guys"), but now Quinn knows Brody is Muslim. Carrie doesn't know this, correct? When they were at the cabin, and he told her she already knows everything about him? Not to mention the Walden thing...

And I thought Dana was gonna ask to go to the memorial with Brody, when they were speaking while he was getting dressed. Also, this chick speaks like her jaw's been wired shut.

The scene of the shrouding/burial of Nazir...is that respect in death for people like him typical? And actually worthy of saying the Kaddish? Perhaps that's simply protocol, but it struck me as odd (and in another odd way, kind of...humane).

So anyone think Carrie came back to tell Saul she wants back in with the CIA, or that she's going to go off into the wild blue yonder with the guy that most everyone refuses to call by his first name?

you might have a point about them knowing if he's muslim or not. i guess i kind of assuemd carrie knew but he left out the part where him and nazir prayed a few episodes back.

we did the same burial at sea for bin laden.

she's telling him she's staying the cia. i think she will tell him the truth about what happened and they will both work to find the people responsible (i still think its al queda) and, as a result, clear brody's name...of this at least.

I'm pretty sure Carrie knows that Brody is muslim. The episode from last year what they were at the cabin and he let her interrogate him, she asked him what he is always doing in his garage and he told her that he was praying. I'm pretty sure he then admitted he was muslim.

Saul will definitely put it together that Carrie helped Brody disappear. WIth a big part of the CIA wiped out by the attack, Saul and Carrie will pretty much be running the show at the CIA by the time next season starts. Can't wait.

Newch91

I wanted a cliff hanger!! Onto season 2.

dimitrispearljam

lets see what next season will brings

intodeep

I heard today that it would be back in the spring instead of next fall.......

Any truth to that?

I read it on the internet so it has to be true right??

Indifference71

intodeep wrote:

I heard today that it would be back in the spring instead of next fall.......

Any truth to that?

I read it on the internet so it has to be true right??

I doubt it. The first 2 seasons both started around September/October. They'd have to start filming soon if it were to be spring. Pretty sure Claire Danes is pregnant right now too.

intodeep

Indifference71 wrote:

intodeep wrote:

I heard today that it would be back in the spring instead of next fall.......

Any truth to that?

I read it on the internet so it has to be true right??

I doubt it. The first 2 seasons both started around September/October. They'd have to start filming soon if it were to be spring. Pretty sure Claire Danes is pregnant right now too.

with brody's baby what a plot twist

Yeah i've been looking and i've only seen it on that one site and i'm calling bullshit

DS1119

Read this on the IMDB site.



"Watch the scene where Brody gets out of his car and shakes the
guy's hand again. He has his keys in his hand when he gets out of the
car and never puts them in his pocket. Instead, in the very next shot,
he uses the same hand to greet the uniformed man. The reason for this?
To transfer his car keys to him without anyone knowing! The shot
intentionally is framed so that we do not see the actual handshake. So,
this uniformed fellow is therefore the mole that has been mentioned on
and off this season.


i doubt anyone picked up on this, just like how I had to point it out over on avclub, so thought i'd share.

way too coincidental for him and carrie to be outside the meeting otherwise in my opinion.

and that's what this is i guess, my opinion, so if people want to point out how I am mistaken, I really don't care. At the very least, it is a red herring put in there by the writers/director. anyway, for those of you who can rewatch the episode, judge for yourself."

The Juggler

DS1119 wrote:

Read this on the IMDB site.



"Watch the scene where Brody gets out of his car and shakes the
guy's hand again. He has his keys in his hand when he gets out of the
car and never puts them in his pocket. Instead, in the very next shot,
he uses the same hand to greet the uniformed man. The reason for this?
To transfer his car keys to him without anyone knowing! The shot
intentionally is framed so that we do not see the actual handshake. So,
this uniformed fellow is therefore the mole that has been mentioned on
and off this season.


i doubt anyone picked up on this, just like how I had to point it out over on avclub, so thought i'd share.

way too coincidental for him and carrie to be outside the meeting otherwise in my opinion.

and that's what this is i guess, my opinion, so if people want to point out how I am mistaken, I really don't care. At the very least, it is a red herring put in there by the writers/director. anyway, for those of you who can rewatch the episode, judge for yourself."

yes i saw someone mention this on some site and noticed it when i rewatched it.

do you think there is something to that or just some kind sloppy editing? i'm not sure how brody could really be involved with it at this point....

DS1119

The Juggler wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Read this on the IMDB site.



"Watch the scene where Brody gets out of his car and shakes the
guy's hand again. He has his keys in his hand when he gets out of the
car and never puts them in his pocket. Instead, in the very next shot,
he uses the same hand to greet the uniformed man. The reason for this?
To transfer his car keys to him without anyone knowing! The shot
intentionally is framed so that we do not see the actual handshake. So,
this uniformed fellow is therefore the mole that has been mentioned on
and off this season.


i doubt anyone picked up on this, just like how I had to point it out over on avclub, so thought i'd share.

way too coincidental for him and carrie to be outside the meeting otherwise in my opinion.

and that's what this is i guess, my opinion, so if people want to point out how I am mistaken, I really don't care. At the very least, it is a red herring put in there by the writers/director. anyway, for those of you who can rewatch the episode, judge for yourself."

yes i saw someone mention this on some site and noticed it when i rewatched it.

do you think there is something to that or just some kind sloppy editing? i'm not sure how brody could really be involved with it at this point....

I really don't know. I'm still in the "Saul is a spy" camp.

xavier mcdaniel

I think we'll find out a lot when they possibly play up this storyline with Dar Adal and Quinn next year, assuming they do so.

Indifference71

DS1119 wrote:

I really don't know. I'm still in the "Saul is a spy" camp.

:fp: :fp: :fp:

I think I would cry if Saul were a mole.

Indifference71

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

I think we'll find out a lot when they possibly play up this storyline with Dar Adal and Quinn next year, assuming they do so.

I did read in an interview with one of the showrunners that Quinn will definitely be involved with next season. Hopefully this Dar Adal guy comes back too.

Indifference71

The Juggler wrote:

yes i saw someone mention this on some site and noticed it when i rewatched it.

do you think there is something to that or just some kind sloppy editing? i'm not sure how brody could really be involved with it at this point....

Now I'm going to have to rewatch the finale.

I do agree with you though....hard to imagine Brody being involved at this point. Especially with his extreme hesitation to killing innocent civilians. Could just be some sloppy editing.

grooveme

The Fixer wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

The one thing I did wonder is how Carrie and Brody got out of the building with no one seeing them?

probably the same way he was allowed to stand in the VP's office and yell a terrorists name without anyone noticing.

I wonder if quinn is the terrorist responsible for the bombing. Maybe he didn't kill brody because he needed him alive so that he could frame him. Theory makes a lot of sense.

also, why does everyone call brody by his last name? even his wife and kids. not sure if that means anything in regards to the story, but it's weird to me.

IT seems that's he been called "Brody" by close friends for some time. I read somewhere that the show's creators have said that the VP and Nazir calling him his first name shows their "false familiarity" with him. They assume the right to use his first name, even when he doesn't go by it. (So did the VP's wife)

And congrates to Claire Danes and Hugh Dancy, she reportedly delivered a healthy baby boy this week.

The Juggler

grooveme wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

The one thing I did wonder is how Carrie and Brody got out of the building with no one seeing them?

probably the same way he was allowed to stand in the VP's office and yell a terrorists name without anyone noticing.

I wonder if quinn is the terrorist responsible for the bombing. Maybe he didn't kill brody because he needed him alive so that he could frame him. Theory makes a lot of sense.

also, why does everyone call brody by his last name? even his wife and kids. not sure if that means anything in regards to the story, but it's weird to me.

IT seems that's he been called "Brody" by close friends for some time. I read somewhere that the show's creators have said that the VP and Nazir calling him his first name shows their "false familiarity" with him. They assume the right to use his first name, even when he doesn't go by it. (So did the VP's wife)

And congrates to Claire Danes and Hugh Dancy, she reportedly delivered a healthy baby boy this week.

my friend was convinced they were going to write her pregnancy into the show and have it be brody's baby.

thank god that didn't happen.

goldrush

Two notable highlights in the finale for me:

1. "You're the smartest and the dumbest fucking person I've ever known" - easily the best line of the whole series!

2. Brody shaking hands with Finn at the service. How cold was that? It was like "Hi kid, I killed your Dad!"