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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    pandora wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    Interesting to see and hear all the love towards the one and only Ted Nugent. I've told this story here before and I won't say or waste another word this piece of crap of humanity....if you want to call him human.

    A friend of mine many many years ago begged me to go to this show I don't know what she saw in the guy but she asked me to go along with other friends went to his show. Place was unexpectedly packed...I knew none of his music but I reluctantly went. The show went on I was bored to tears but my lady friend was having a great time....anyway we got separated in a rush of the crowd when TN was on some apparatus that had him hanging over the crowd. I don't know if he was on some drugs or what but during one song he urges the crowd as they rushed under him to attack or go after some girls there. As I'm looking up in some kind of act or rage he screams to rape her, rape her.....little did I know my lady friend was caught up in the middle of this madness and his idiotic fans start to tear rip up these girls clothes. I went ballistic busted through maybe 20 people to get to my friend who by then had her top shirt ripped off. I looked up at this motherfucker and he was STILL encouraging these maniacs...I wanted to kill him but I grabbed her wrapped her up and pushed us out of there.

    She was crying and in shock....I wanted to file something but she said no and just wanted to go home. Maybe I posted this in the worst concert experience ever but I do remember posting this and these are my last words I'll waste on this piece of shit of a human. As you'll know I post PEACE at the end of post but I'll say this IF I ever run into this asswipe ever again I would put that peace sign away and put my fist straight through his skull and Then put my fist through his nuts. I've been to hundreds of concerts but NEVER have I seen an act encourage violence.

    You people who love HIM please continue but I'll never ever have ANY RESPECT FOR THIS PIECE OF SHIT OF A HUMAN.

    PEACE
    Not sure if I should pursue...

    I do not now much about Nugent,
    never went for the music and you know I am all about that.

    But do you think he has asked for forgiveness, that he has regrets for what he did,
    was it maybe 20 years ago?

    I know I have asked for forgiveness for things done in my youth,
    maybe you too

    Do you think he will ask in the end and know the terror of your friend?
    I do.

    Do you think you can forgive once he understands?

    I am more surprised at your violence after previous words we have spoke.
    So I understand what this horrific event means to you.

    I am sorry for this.
    Nobody who encourages the rape or murder of an individual deserves forgiveness. Nobody.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    if you think not, you have never done anything to deserve forgiveness
    and known the pain in that

    nor forgiven and felt the healing and peace in that

    it is not all so black and white in the end

    if we could only feel each others hearts
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    pandora wrote:
    if you think not, you have never done anything to deserve forgiveness
    and known the pain in that

    nor forgiven and felt the healing and peace in that

    it is not all so black and white in the end

    if we could only feel each others hearts
    I've done shit that deserves forgiveness, I've also been an asshole and lost friendships over things I didn't deserve to be forgiven for, I accept that.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    yes accepting loss and punishment is what we do
    forgiving us is what others do

    it is a blessing to forgive and be forgiven when hearts long for this
    why I feel those who long to be forgiven should be

    but a heart without regret knows no forgiveness
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    pandora wrote:
    yes accepting loss and punishment is what we do
    forgiving us is what others do

    it is a blessing to forgive and be forgiven when hearts long for this
    why I feel those who long to be forgiven should be

    but a heart without regret knows no forgiveness
    I regret tons of it, girls I wish I didn't get back together with, friends I wish I kept in done with, but its part of life. Sometimes people aren't forgiven.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Back on topic

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    the new song is super tyt! WOOT!
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,669
    pandora wrote:
    if you think not, you have never done anything to deserve forgiveness
    and known the pain in that

    nor forgiven and felt the healing and peace in that

    it is not all so black and white in the end

    if we could only feel each others hearts

    Your push for forgiveness is invalidating his feelings and experience of the situation. g under p and his friend can find forgiveness within their own choosing and processing of the situation. Your response to the story comes across as "black and white" and maybe it's how you often respond when hearing a story of someone being victimized. You begin to feel each others hearts by validating others, not by invalidating.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Go Beavers wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    if you think not, you have never done anything to deserve forgiveness
    and known the pain in that

    nor forgiven and felt the healing and peace in that

    it is not all so black and white in the end

    if we could only feel each others hearts

    Your push for forgiveness is invalidating his feelings and experience of the situation. g under p and his friend can find forgiveness within their own choosing and processing of the situation. Your response to the story comes across as "black and white" and maybe it's how you often respond when hearing a story of someone being victimized. You begin to feel each others hearts by validating others, not by invalidating.
    I believe you have made an error :?

    I was responding to the fact that someone does not deserve forgiveness made by another poster
    this post was not directed at g under p or his story

    I think maybe read what I replied to him to better understand where I am coming from

    I know much about victimizing and understand all to well

    but I stand by my words here both for the victim and those who victimize
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    keeponrockin wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    yes accepting loss and punishment is what we do
    forgiving us is what others do

    it is a blessing to forgive and be forgiven when hearts long for this
    why I feel those who long to be forgiven should be

    but a heart without regret knows no forgiveness
    I regret tons of it, girls I wish I didn't get back together with, friends I wish I kept in done with, but its part of life. Sometimes people aren't forgiven.
    correct

    but in my opinion only those who do not regret what they have done should go unforgiven

    this my point

    if a heart longs for forgiveness, forgiveness it shall have
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,669
    pandora wrote:
    Go Beavers wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    if you think not, you have never done anything to deserve forgiveness
    and known the pain in that

    nor forgiven and felt the healing and peace in that

    it is not all so black and white in the end

    if we could only feel each others hearts

    Your push for forgiveness is invalidating his feelings and experience of the situation. g under p and his friend can find forgiveness within their own choosing and processing of the situation. Your response to the story comes across as "black and white" and maybe it's how you often respond when hearing a story of someone being victimized. You begin to feel each others hearts by validating others, not by invalidating.
    I believe you have made an error :?

    I was responding to the fact that someone does not deserve forgiveness made by another poster
    this post was not directed at g under p or his story

    I think maybe read what I replied to him to better understand where I am coming from

    I know much about victimizing and understand all to well

    but I stand by my words here both for the victim and those who victimize

    I don't think I really made an error. In your direct response, you talked about thinking TN has asked for forgiveness. Whether he has or not (not likely based on what I've seen/heard) isn't relevant. I stand by my statement that your response was invalidating.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,869
    keeponrockin wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    yes accepting loss and punishment is what we do
    forgiving us is what others do

    it is a blessing to forgive and be forgiven when hearts long for this
    why I feel those who long to be forgiven should be

    but a heart without regret knows no forgiveness
    I regret tons of it, girls I wish I didn't get back together with, friends I wish I kept in done with, but its part of life. Sometimes people aren't forgiven.
    you are not alone KOR.

    i'm right there with ya man.

    making mistakes and doing things we regret is part of human nature. there are people i swore i would never forgive, but over time my heart has softened some. i know i am not forgiven by some people, and i am ok with that because at the end of the day there is nothing you can do about it. either they choose to forgive or they don't and you can't let that interfere with your daily life.

    as far as mr. nugent goes, i doubt he will ever think he needs forgiveness because the guy is a misogynist and probably feels like he did nothing wrong.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    hank jr. never has been hungry, he continues to ride on daddy's coat-tails, or however that saying goes. hank and kid rock work together creating bullshit music together, if you can even call it music. to my knowledge hank jr. has done nothing for this country except promote hillbilly bullshit. his songs all sound the same.

    he is a racist to my notion. http://youtu.be/OlDkgk3SMPg

    problem is, the south isn't ever gonna win, hank. y'all down yonder way are a bunch of toothless no knownin jackasses who enslaved others due to their darker skin color. you are a moron. your integrity is swallow and again, you are what you are because of your daddy paving out the way. you have really done nothing on your own of value to my knowledge.

    http://youtu.be/95aP0OWx4jY
    holy shit... thank god it isn't 1925 any longer

    (sorry im a big meany)
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Go Beavers wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Your push for forgiveness is invalidating his feelings and experience of the situation. g under p and his friend can find forgiveness within their own choosing and processing of the situation. Your response to the story comes across as "black and white" and maybe it's how you often respond when hearing a story of someone being victimized. You begin to feel each others hearts by validating others, not by invalidating.
    I believe you have made an error :?

    I was responding to the fact that someone does not deserve forgiveness made by another poster
    this post was not directed at g under p or his story

    I think maybe read what I replied to him to better understand where I am coming from

    I know much about victimizing and understand all to well

    but I stand by my words here both for the victim and those who victimize

    I don't think I really made an error. In your direct response, you talked about thinking TN has asked for forgiveness. Whether he has or not (not likely based on what I've seen/heard) isn't relevant. I stand by my statement that your response was invalidating.

    this is what i wrote


    "Not sure if I should pursue...

    I do not now much about Nugent,
    never went for the music and you know I am all about that.

    But do you think he has asked for forgiveness, that he has regrets for what he did,
    was it maybe 20 years ago?

    I know I have asked for forgiveness for things done in my youth,
    maybe you too

    Do you think he will ask in the end and know the terror of your friend?
    I do.

    Do you think you can forgive once he understands?

    I am more surprised at your violence after previous words we have spoke.
    So I understand what this horrific event means to you.

    I am sorry for this."

    I did not think anything about TN I did not think he had asked for forgiveness or not ...
    I asked what g under p thought

    I did not push for him to forgive or anyone to forgive, of course they will forgive or not in their own time
    His story was not black and white neither is forgiving my point


    invalidating :? I understood ... that is what I have to offer.... if you read my last lines to him
    I get it completely
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    pandora wrote:
    this is what i wrote
    "Not sure if I should pursue...
    I do not now much about Nugent, never went for the music and you know I am all about that.
    But do you think he has asked for forgiveness, that he has regrets for what he did, was it maybe 20 years ago?
    I know I have asked for forgiveness for things done in my youth, maybe you too
    Do you think he will ask in the end and know the terror of your friend?
    I do.
    Do you think you can forgive once he understands?
    I am more surprised at your violence after previous words we have spoke.
    So I understand what this horrific event means to you.
    I am sorry for this."
    I did not think anything about TN I did not think he had asked for forgiveness or not ...
    I asked what g under p thought
    I did not push for him to forgive or anyone to forgive, of course they will forgive or not in their own time
    His story was not black and white neither is forgiving my point
    invalidating :? I understood ... that is what I have to offer.... if you read my last lines to him
    I get it completely
    ...
    Asking for forgiveness and receiving it are two different things. Some people whom ask for forgiveness... do it for themselves, not for the ones they are asking forgiveness from.
    And if asked for and received forgiveness... why do they often times repeat the behaviour that prompted it?
    I feel that people should receive forgiveness... if it is deserving... not demanded.
    But, that's just me.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    You know, at this point, who really cares anymore? It was an analogy and a poor choice of words. And it does suck that even though he sucks, his song was great for Monday Night Football. So it's said it's gone, but can't we let this die yet?

    I suppose I'm not helping by posting again. :lol:
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    cincybearcat wrote:
    You know, at this point, who really cares anymore? It was an analogy and a poor choice of words. And it does suck that even though he sucks, his song was great for Monday Night Football. So it's said it's gone, but can't we let this die yet?

    I suppose I'm not helping by posting again. :lol:
    ...
    I think it's because people perceive this as a First Amendment (Freedom Of Speech) issue... when, in fact, it is a business decision.
    You and I don't care... because we know the First Amendment... and this is just an insignificant item that has been elevted to newsworthiness by newsrooms driven by ratings, not journalism.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    I think it was the new song that got everybody going again

    my whole thought did the song come first then 'the event'

    if so, then it was a grand publicity stunt to go along with the song and how he feels
    and how many others feel in this country ... very threatened and dissatisfied

    "I'll keep the USA and y'all can keep the change"
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Cosmo wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    this is what i wrote
    "Not sure if I should pursue...
    I do not now much about Nugent, never went for the music and you know I am all about that.
    But do you think he has asked for forgiveness, that he has regrets for what he did, was it maybe 20 years ago?
    I know I have asked for forgiveness for things done in my youth, maybe you too
    Do you think he will ask in the end and know the terror of your friend?
    I do.
    Do you think you can forgive once he understands?
    I am more surprised at your violence after previous words we have spoke.
    So I understand what this horrific event means to you.
    I am sorry for this."
    I did not think anything about TN I did not think he had asked for forgiveness or not ...
    I asked what g under p thought
    I did not push for him to forgive or anyone to forgive, of course they will forgive or not in their own time
    His story was not black and white neither is forgiving my point
    invalidating :? I understood ... that is what I have to offer.... if you read my last lines to him
    I get it completely
    ...
    Asking for forgiveness and receiving it are two different things. Some people whom ask for forgiveness... do it for themselves, not for the ones they are asking forgiveness from.
    And if asked for and received forgiveness... why do they often times repeat the behaviour that prompted it?
    I feel that people should receive forgiveness... if it is deserving... not demanded.
    But, that's just me.
    I agree

    a heart never lies... like I said too bad we can't feel each others

    to forgive is healing even more so for the forgiver
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    pandora wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Asking for forgiveness and receiving it are two different things. Some people whom ask for forgiveness... do it for themselves, not for the ones they are asking forgiveness from.
    And if asked for and received forgiveness... why do they often times repeat the behaviour that prompted it?
    I feel that people should receive forgiveness... if it is deserving... not demanded.
    But, that's just me.
    I agree

    a heart never lies... like I said too bad we can't feel each others

    to forgive is healing even more so for the forgiver
    ...
    I disagree. Why?
    Because, for example, I don't think that the Brown and Goldman families should need to 'feel' O.J.Simpson's heart.
    They may or may not forgive O.J. for slaughtering their kids and getting away with it in such a public forum... that's on them and what I feel about iyt means absolutely nothing.
    Or they can simply choose to dedicate their lives in honor of their slain children/siblings and give O.J. what he deserves from them... being completely out of their lives.
    ...
    P.S. The heart does lie. Ask the person who loves someone so much... they murder them.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    pandora wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    Interesting to see and hear all the love towards the one and only Ted Nugent. I've told this story here before and I won't say or waste another word this piece of crap of humanity....if you want to call him human.

    A friend of mine many many years ago begged me to go to this show I don't know what she saw in the guy but she asked me to go along with other friends went to his show. Place was unexpectedly packed...I knew none of his music but I reluctantly went. The show went on I was bored to tears but my lady friend was having a great time....anyway we got separated in a rush of the crowd when TN was on some apparatus that had him hanging over the crowd. I don't know if he was on some drugs or what but during one song he urges the crowd as they rushed under him to attack or go after some girls there. As I'm looking up in some kind of act or rage he screams to rape her, rape her.....little did I know my lady friend was caught up in the middle of this madness and his idiotic fans start to tear rip up these girls clothes. I went ballistic busted through maybe 20 people to get to my friend who by then had her top shirt ripped off. I looked up at this motherfucker and he was STILL encouraging these maniacs...I wanted to kill him but I grabbed her wrapped her up and pushed us out of there.

    She was crying and in shock....I wanted to file something but she said no and just wanted to go home. Maybe I posted this in the worst concert experience ever but I do remember posting this and these are my last words I'll waste on this piece of shit of a human. As you'll know I post PEACE at the end of post but I'll say this IF I ever run into this asswipe ever again I would put that peace sign away and put my fist straight through his skull and Then put my fist through his nuts. I've been to hundreds of concerts but NEVER have I seen an act encourage violence.

    You people who love HIM please continue but I'll never ever have ANY RESPECT FOR THIS PIECE OF SHIT OF A HUMAN.

    PEACE
    I do not now much about Nugent,
    never went for the music and you know I am all about that.

    But do you think he has asked for forgiveness, that he has regrets for what he did,

    Do you think you can forgive once he understands?


    So now the onus is on g under p to 'forgive'?

    Never mind Ted Nugent being a spineless loudmouth piece of shit. No. You just start preaching the same wishy-washy nonsense to g under p instead.

    Unbelievable.

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