The 2013-14 NBA season

xavier mcdaniel

dcfaithful wrote:

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

That's one of the few articles I've read on it and probably the only reason I read it is that when I covered pro basketball on the side, I was and still am good friends with the author.

I really enjoyed the article. Much better than any of the articles on NBA.com regarding this issue.

actually you should read this site too, especially when they actually play some games, it's chris sheridan's new venture.

www.sheridanhoops.com

RiotZact

That's my boy!

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/71438 ... -las-vegas

81

RiotZact wrote:

That's my boy!

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/71438 ... -las-vegas

one of the biggest chumps in nba history.

Newch91

RiotZact wrote:

That's my boy!

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/71438 ... -las-vegas

I wonder if he'll practice before the tournament.

RiotZact

81 wrote:

RiotZact wrote:

That's my boy!

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/71438 ... -las-vegas

one of the biggest chumps in nba history.

Possibly, but every time I start to not like him anymore I go back and watch some of his early 2000s highlights and it just amazes me how good he was, and at times he has showed signs that he's not all that bad, like this tournament for example

loadedgun

81 wrote:

RiotZact wrote:

That's my boy!

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/71438 ... -las-vegas

one of the biggest chumps in nba history.

Perhaps. But he'll always go down as a 'what could have been' to me. I think that's saying a lot, considering how good he was.

Wobbie

81 wrote:

RiotZact wrote:

That's my boy!

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/71438 ... -las-vegas

one of the biggest chumps in nba history.

made me remember the year they had the all-star game in vegas. what a clusterfuck that was. the stories of non-tipping. rude NBA'ers were everywhere....just another reason why some people don't care if this shit ever comes back.

RiotZact

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH5JTh3Xp3Y

not a perfect list but pretty good, after seeing this kind of stuff I don't know how anyone could ever say he doesn't deserve to be in the hall of fame

81

RiotZact wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH5JTh3Xp3Y

not a perfect list but pretty good, after seeing this kind of stuff I don't know how anyone could ever say he doesn't deserve to be in the hall of fame

if i had a vote, i would vote yes to the HOF....

he's still a chump

pjhawks

RiotZact wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH5JTh3Xp3Y

not a perfect list but pretty good, after seeing this kind of stuff I don't know how anyone could ever say he doesn't deserve to be in the hall of fame

anyone who says allen iverson shouldn't be in the hall of fame is a moron of major epic proportions. guy is without question one of the top 50 players of all time (bill simmons has him at 29 in his fantastic 'The Book of Basketball' - no matter what you think of Simmons i highly recommend the book) . absolute stud. yes he was kind of a turd as a human being but guy brought it every night. hell dennis rodman just went in the hall...dennis freaking rodman

Wobbie

pjhawks wrote:

hell dennis rodman just went in the hall...dennis freaking rodman

yeah, but dennis was friends with ed

DewieCox

pjhawks wrote:

RiotZact wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH5JTh3Xp3Y

not a perfect list but pretty good, after seeing this kind of stuff I don't know how anyone could ever say he doesn't deserve to be in the hall of fame

anyone who says allen iverson shouldn't be in the hall of fame is a moron of major epic proportions. guy is without question one of the top 50 players of all time (bill simmons has him at 29 in his fantastic 'The Book of Basketball' - no matter what you think of Simmons i highly recommend the book) . absolute stud. yes he was kind of a turd as a human being but guy brought it every night. hell dennis rodman just went in the hall...dennis freaking rodman

Rodman has how many rings?, was one of the best defenders and rebounders in the league(at the most generous 6'8" I've ever seen) for most of his career.

Iverson should go in the HoF, but I think saying he's unquestionably in the top 50 is a pretty big stretch. He could take a spot, but there's plenty of guys that could keep him bumped off. Only 1 MVP in a down league, bronze metal and no titles hurts him.

RiotZact

DewieCox wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

RiotZact wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH5JTh3Xp3Y

not a perfect list but pretty good, after seeing this kind of stuff I don't know how anyone could ever say he doesn't deserve to be in the hall of fame

anyone who says allen iverson shouldn't be in the hall of fame is a moron of major epic proportions. guy is without question one of the top 50 players of all time (bill simmons has him at 29 in his fantastic 'The Book of Basketball' - no matter what you think of Simmons i highly recommend the book) . absolute stud. yes he was kind of a turd as a human being but guy brought it every night. hell dennis rodman just went in the hall...dennis freaking rodman

Rodman has how many rings?, was one of the best defenders and rebounders in the league(at the most generous 6'8" I've ever seen) for most of his career.

Iverson should go in the HoF, but I think saying he's unquestionably in the top 50 is a pretty big stretch. He could take a spot, but there's plenty of guys that could keep him bumped off. Only 1 MVP in a down league, bronze metal and no titles hurts him.

I agree Rodman is better but I think he is easily top 50 as well, a year or two ago the guys that do TNT thursday nights did an all time fantasy draft and Charles Barkley had the first overall pick and he took AI. For sure that was a horrible pick and he was probably joking in a way but still...

RiotZact

UPDATE: AT LEAST 2 more weeks canceled

81

RiotZact wrote:

UPDATE: AT LEAST 2 more weeks canceled

Not sounding good :(

RiotZact

81 wrote:

RiotZact wrote:

UPDATE: AT LEAST 2 more weeks canceled

Not sounding good :(

nope I don't really know the specifics on the update cus I just read it as breaking news on the bottom line of the MNF game but it didn't sound good at all

The Juggler

talks resuming today...

81

The Juggler wrote:

talks resuming today...

oh boy....

i'm about ready to start the occupy nba areana movement.

pjhawks

The Juggler wrote:

talks resuming today...

maybe players finally realize they can't win and should shut up and collect their pay and play.

juggler see previous page. want to hear your thoughts on iverson vs. rodman. a couple of guys here are trying to tell me that rodman was better and more of a hall of famer than iverson (one guy even mentioned rodman's championships cause you know playing with jordan and duncan had nothing to do with those). as an aside Bill Simmons list Iverson as #29 all time and Rodman #69 all time in his book of Basketball.

81

pjhawks wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

talks resuming today...

maybe players finally realize they can't win and should shut up and collect their pay and play.

juggler see previous page. want to hear your thoughts on iverson vs. rodman. a couple of guys here are trying to tell me that rodman was better and more of a hall of famer than iverson (one guy even mentioned rodman's championships cause you know playing with jordan and duncan had nothing to do with those). as an aside Bill Simmons list Iverson as #29 all time and Rodman #69 all time in his book of Basketball.

pssst...he didn't win with Duncan...

2 with Detroit

3 with Chicago

i guess Ai vs. Rodman boils down to what you like

Rodman - defense, rebounding, a few put back points, hustle, old school all around tough nosed player

vs

AI - scoring, assisting

i think Rodman practiced as well.


as far as championships go...do they bulls beat utah in 98 without rodman guarding malone? do they go 72-10 in 95/96?