Whats the difference between a corrupt conservative, ndp or libreral government, there all crooks, there only in it for themselves...thats why stealing is illegal, the government don't like competition.
A little joke I received today...
A driver is stuck in a traffic jam going into downtown Ottawa. Nothing is moving north or south.
Suddenly a man knocks on his window.
The driver rolls down his window and asks, "What happened? What's the hold-up?"
"Terrorists have kidnapped Michael Ignatieff, Dalton McGuinty, Jack Layton, Gilles Duceppe, and Prime Minister Harper. They are asking for a ten million dollar ransom....otherwise, they are going to douse them with gasoline and set them on fire. We are going from car to car, taking up a collection."
The driver asks, "On average, how much is everyone giving?"
"About a litre!"
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I rather not vote, than to vote for any of the corrupt bullshitters.
what do you mean... no pirate party 2011 for you!!?!?!
If the pirate party or pot party or one of the fringe parties was running in my riding, yes they'd get my vote . The election is 3 weeks in and they are all corrupt bullshitters, not 1 is willing to get out and separate themselves. I don't understand, you would think at least 1 party the parties would act differently and just tell me how they are going to make Canada a better place, instead every time I turn on the news it's all about how corrupt Harper is...duh...I think we know that already. Beside has it ever occurred to 1 of these bullshitters that that Canadians know you're all corrupt so that no longer resonates with voters.
It will most likely be either a PC majority or minority.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
The Star Published On Thu Oct 16 2008
THE CANADIAN PRESS
High MP pensions
OTTAWA–The rich pension plan MPs set up for themselves over the years will see defeated MPs walking into the sunset with annual pensions as high as $167,000, for the six years required to qualify for a pension That's on top of a pension they receives from other Companies they worked for before or after their political career
Defeated Conservative MP Rahim Jaffer, 36, qualifies for minimum pension of $53,540, which he can begin collecting at age 55. By then, retroactive inflation indexing to the year he lost his seat will have increased Jaffer's pension substantially.
No wonder Helena Guergis who has been in Canadian House of Commons since 2004 wants to get Relected so bad.
How many Canadians will have a Pension like that with a life time of work.
How come no Leaders mention the Tax $ wasted on their PENSIONS .
6 Years give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let get rid of any new MP before they can collect it and get the $$$$$$ we save put into OAS, so every one can have a better Pension.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
LMAO!!! OMG Shimmy that joke was HILARIOUS!!!!!!!! Thanks
I've seen that Shit Harper Did website...brilliant!!!!
Lukin - in an election like this it's my opinion that not voting at all is basically the same as a vote for the Cons...it's saying you are not upset enough with anything that's been done to get up and do something about it...so they can keep on doing more of the same.
I hate Ignatieff too and I REALLY don't want to vote for the Liberals either....hell if they weren't Separatists and had candidates outside Quebec I'd vote for the Bloq lol. Gilles Duceppe is the only one of the 4 I don't mind. (cept for the Separatist views he holds).
I am going to take one for the country and vote strategically...and I REALLY hope you do the same Lukin.
If the Cons can lose some seats in their stronghold (Alberta) maybe that will send them a message!
"Rock and roll is something that can't be quantified, sometimes it's not even something you hear, but FEEL!" - Bob Lefsetz
Ok You wanna know how much distain Harper has for us.. How dillusional he REALLY is?? Please read that speech from when he was with the Reform Party. Yes it's a little dated, but my political views have not changed much since then...and I don't believe his has either.
Shame on us for not calling Harper out on this!!
"Rock and roll is something that can't be quantified, sometimes it's not even something you hear, but FEEL!" - Bob Lefsetz
Ok You wanna know how much distain Harper has for us.. How dillusional he REALLY is?? Please read that speech from when he was with the Reform Party. Yes it's a little dated, but my political views have not changed much since then...and I don't believe his has either.
Shame on us for not calling Harper out on this!!
:shock: maybe it's time to remind the other politicians :think:
LMAO!!! OMG Shimmy that joke was HILARIOUS!!!!!!!! Thanks
I've seen that Shit Harper Did website...brilliant!!!!
Lukin - in an election like this it's my opinion that not voting at all is basically the same as a vote for the Cons...it's saying you are not upset enough with anything that's been done to get up and do something about it...so they can keep on doing more of the same.
I hate Ignatieff too and I REALLY don't want to vote for the Liberals either....hell if they weren't Separatists and had candidates outside Quebec I'd vote for the Bloq lol. Gilles Duceppe is the only one of the 4 I don't mind. (cept for the Separatist views he holds).
I am going to take one for the country and vote strategically...and I REALLY hope you do the same Lukin.
If the Cons can lose some seats in their stronghold (Alberta) maybe that will send them a message!
That's not an issue in my riding, in 2008 the ndp won the riding by 11000 votes. Now after I read about his voting record and how he and his colleague in the adjacent riding voted against several very big and absolutely necessary projects in this area I fail to see how he deserves my vote, after the Chretien years the liberals will never get my vote...hate to say this guys this conservative government has financed plenty of much needed infrastructure projects in this area, but both ndp mps voting against these projects, still not going to vote Conservative, but the conservative candidate deserves my vote more than the MP we got.
Not to mention the Federal Liberals have not mention the new Detroit River International Crossing in their platform...big concern in this area of the country, not to mention much needed.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
obviously their vote is soft and they have a big hump to go over to actually translate that into seats ... but it's pretty clear that after several weeks of campaigning - Layton has done the best job especially at the debates ... but what is more important is that the cons have lost ground in each poll ... what this means is that outreach campaigns to the disenchanted is working and hopefully, we can get the voter turnout to prevent this majority ...
this should be every liberal's, NDP's, and Green's slogan.
just run tv ads with thunder sounds and it flickering inverted colours...
THIS... IS YOUR FUTURE WITH STEPHEN HARPER... dun dun dunnnnn
Did he or didn't he get an education? If your handed a minority then work with the other parties...I think he owes this to his base as well, as far as I'm concerned it's time to compromise, let's get on with the business of getting the country going forward, and if Harper can't do it then step down and let someone else do the job.
Why not a coalition with Jack Layton as PM, he can add liberals to his cabinet and centrist tories (and I'm sure there are some, Layton and Iggy know who they are), this way we're not at the mercy of the bloc. This would also be a way to freeze Harper and his cronies in cabinet out.
Harper doesn't want to work with the other parties I suspect because he is calling it quits if he only gets a minority.
I'd rather have Layton more than Iggy, imo.
It all sucks anyways, because Harper doesn't want to get along and work within a minority parliament he is costing us 300 million, we should send him the bill.
Now that I wrote this I'll probably be banned from any of his rallies .
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Did he or didn't he get an education? If your handed a minority then work with the other parties...I think he owes this to his base as well, as far as I'm concerned it's time to compromise, let's get on with the business of getting the country going forward, and if Harper can't do it then step down and let someone else do the job.
Why not a coalition with Jack Layton as PM, he can add liberals to his cabinet and centrist tories (and I'm sure there are some, Layton and Iggy know who they are), this way we're not at the mercy of the bloc. This would also be a way to freeze Harper and his cronies in cabinet out.
Harper doesn't want to work with the other parties I suspect because he is calling it quits if he only gets a minority.
I'd rather have Layton more than Iggy, imo.
It all sucks anyways, because Harper doesn't want to get along and work within a minority parliament he is costing us 300 million, we should send him the bill.
Now that I wrote this I'll probably be banned from any of his rallies .
Did he or didn't he get an education? If your handed a minority then work with the other parties...I think he owes this to his base as well, as far as I'm concerned it's time to compromise, let's get on with the business of getting the country going forward, and if Harper can't do it then step down and let someone else do the job.
Why not a coalition with Jack Layton as PM, he can add liberals to his cabinet and centrist tories (and I'm sure there are some, Layton and Iggy know who they are), this way we're not at the mercy of the bloc. This would also be a way to freeze Harper and his cronies in cabinet out.
Harper doesn't want to work with the other parties I suspect because he is calling it quits if he only gets a minority.
I'd rather have Layton more than Iggy, imo.
It all sucks anyways, because Harper doesn't want to get along and work within a minority parliament he is costing us 300 million, we should send him the bill.
Now that I wrote this I'll probably be banned from any of his rallies .
i would hope no party wins a majority ever again
+1 Then they would all have to work together for the good of everyone!
Did he or didn't he get an education? If your handed a minority then work with the other parties...I think he owes this to his base as well, as far as I'm concerned it's time to compromise, let's get on with the business of getting the country going forward, and if Harper can't do it then step down and let someone else do the job.
Why not a coalition with Jack Layton as PM, he can add liberals to his cabinet and centrist tories (and I'm sure there are some, Layton and Iggy know who they are), this way we're not at the mercy of the bloc. This would also be a way to freeze Harper and his cronies in cabinet out.
Harper doesn't want to work with the other parties I suspect because he is calling it quits if he only gets a minority.
I'd rather have Layton more than Iggy, imo.
It all sucks anyways, because Harper doesn't want to get along and work within a minority parliament he is costing us 300 million, we should send him the bill.
Now that I wrote this I'll probably be banned from any of his rallies .
i would hope no party wins a majority ever again
Agree...and no Steven Harper!!!
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Did he or didn't he get an education? If your handed a minority then work with the other parties...I think he owes this to his base as well, as far as I'm concerned it's time to compromise, let's get on with the business of getting the country going forward, and if Harper can't do it then step down and let someone else do the job.
Why not a coalition with Jack Layton as PM, he can add liberals to his cabinet and centrist tories (and I'm sure there are some, Layton and Iggy know who they are), this way we're not at the mercy of the bloc. This would also be a way to freeze Harper and his cronies in cabinet out.
Harper doesn't want to work with the other parties I suspect because he is calling it quits if he only gets a minority.
I'd rather have Layton more than Iggy, imo.
It all sucks anyways, because Harper doesn't want to get along and work within a minority parliament he is costing us 300 million, we should send him the bill.
Now that I wrote this I'll probably be banned from any of his rallies .
i would hope no party wins a majority ever again
+1 Then they would all have to work together for the good of everyone!
I like that, "for the good of everyone".
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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this is the ideological agenda i've been talking about for ages with everyone ... the fact that this is just becoming a story is attributable to how sneaky and manipulative this gov't is ...
they've already stacked (formerly independent non-partisan) boards with their lackeys to shape all kinds of decision making through their ideology ... the attack on human rights has started long ago ...
this is why they don't take public questions and people have to be screened and why they don't all show up at debates and only some people are allowed to talk to the media ...
these ass-backward right wing nuts do not represent true canadian values ...
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this is the ideological agenda i've been talking about for ages with everyone ... the fact that this is just becoming a story is attributable to how sneaky and manipulative this gov't is ...
they've already stacked (formerly independent non-partisan) boards with their lackeys to shape all kinds of decision making through their ideology ... the attack on human rights has started long ago ...
this is why they don't take public questions and people have to be screened and why they don't all show up at debates and only some people are allowed to talk to the media ...
these ass-backward right wing nuts do not represent true canadian values ...
I don't think he is going to get a majority, so I'm thinking he'll present a budget that will defeat the government and he'll resign.
I do however think that any other government can't include the bloc...so I'm hoping they find enough centrist tories to run a functioning government for 4 years.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
From reading this I'm not sure I'd want to be governor general after the election...
Some points I took out of the article, Harper does not have to rush parliament back...which he won't.
In order for the liberals to form the government they'll need a non compete agreement from the NDP and Bloc, so how much are they going to have to give to the bloc to get their support?
Or form a coalition...sounds like the best best bet...Liberal-NDP-Conservative (Centrist Conservatives).
It shall be interesting to see what happens...wouldn't surprise me if parliament reconvenes in September.
Also wouldn't surprise me if Harper got an agreement from 1 of the opposition parties...with Harper nothing surprises me. He'll do whatever it takes to stay in power.
Personally I like the coalition of Liberals-NDP-Centrist Tories...with Jack Layton leading it.
Who knows we may end up with Prime Minister Duceppe .
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
layton polling higher than the bloc in quebec! ... that is ridiculous!! ...
i'm not sure what the cuss is gonna happen may 3rd ... all i hope is that harper does not garner his majority however if i was a betting man ... i would assume the following would happen (if harper does not get his minority):
* he will return and run gov't status quo
* he will continue to try and govern manipulating rules
* he will launch an aggressive PR campaign against the other parties and feigning that they are not cooperating
* he will continue to stack independent boards to push through other agendas
* he will basically dissolve the freedom to information act simply by non-compliance
i don't suspect he is willing to relinquish power in any form and his backers will not let him resign ... truth be told - the party is at peak support because of his fascist approach ... if MP's were allowed to talk and everything wasn't micromanaged from the PMO - more canadians would see what this party is really about ...
i used to be with ignatieff in that i didn't think the ndp would ever get elected into power ... although I would never say it like him (bad move) ...
i mean - it's still early ... but let's think about this for a second ...
the ndp has 37 seats with about 19% of the popular vote ... you have to figure that at least 5-10% of the popular vote left them for strategic reasons ... now, if this surge is actualized in quebec and they somehow manage 5 or 6 seats there ... that would be a huge psychological barrier to overcome amongst voters ... BC is known to vote in NDP provincial gov'ts so it's not a stretch to see that province go orange ... if disenchantment of the liberals continues - you will continue to see that shift ...
next thing you know - they could be up to 65-75 seats ... after that - anything can happen ...
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I am not ryan gosling......... of Breaker High
That's shit like POOP... that's harper like POOP
we're practically hillbillies out here!
no wonder mark warawa gets the vote.. you know how much paper he wastes on trying to convince us how great the cons are?!?!
need i say more?
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
If the pirate party or pot party or one of the fringe parties was running in my riding, yes they'd get my vote . The election is 3 weeks in and they are all corrupt bullshitters, not 1 is willing to get out and separate themselves. I don't understand, you would think at least 1 party the parties would act differently and just tell me how they are going to make Canada a better place, instead every time I turn on the news it's all about how corrupt Harper is...duh...I think we know that already. Beside has it ever occurred to 1 of these bullshitters that that Canadians know you're all corrupt so that no longer resonates with voters.
It will most likely be either a PC majority or minority.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
THE CANADIAN PRESS
High MP pensions
OTTAWA–The rich pension plan MPs set up for themselves over the years will see defeated MPs walking into the sunset with annual pensions as high as $167,000, for the six years required to qualify for a pension That's on top of a pension they receives from other Companies they worked for before or after their political career
Defeated Conservative MP Rahim Jaffer, 36, qualifies for minimum pension of $53,540, which he can begin collecting at age 55. By then, retroactive inflation indexing to the year he lost his seat will have increased Jaffer's pension substantially.
No wonder Helena Guergis who has been in Canadian House of Commons since 2004 wants to get Relected so bad.
How many Canadians will have a Pension like that with a life time of work.
How come no Leaders mention the Tax $ wasted on their PENSIONS .
6 Years give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let get rid of any new MP before they can collect it and get the $$$$$$ we save put into OAS, so every one can have a better Pension.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/201 ... 00-plaque/
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I've seen that Shit Harper Did website...brilliant!!!!
Lukin - in an election like this it's my opinion that not voting at all is basically the same as a vote for the Cons...it's saying you are not upset enough with anything that's been done to get up and do something about it...so they can keep on doing more of the same.
I hate Ignatieff too and I REALLY don't want to vote for the Liberals either....hell if they weren't Separatists and had candidates outside Quebec I'd vote for the Bloq lol. Gilles Duceppe is the only one of the 4 I don't mind. (cept for the Separatist views he holds).
I am going to take one for the country and vote strategically...and I REALLY hope you do the same Lukin.
If the Cons can lose some seats in their stronghold (Alberta) maybe that will send them a message!
Ok You wanna know how much distain Harper has for us.. How dillusional he REALLY is?? Please read that speech from when he was with the Reform Party. Yes it's a little dated, but my political views have not changed much since then...and I don't believe his has either.
Shame on us for not calling Harper out on this!!
:shock: maybe it's time to remind the other politicians :think:
That's not an issue in my riding, in 2008 the ndp won the riding by 11000 votes. Now after I read about his voting record and how he and his colleague in the adjacent riding voted against several very big and absolutely necessary projects in this area I fail to see how he deserves my vote, after the Chretien years the liberals will never get my vote...hate to say this guys this conservative government has financed plenty of much needed infrastructure projects in this area, but both ndp mps voting against these projects, still not going to vote Conservative, but the conservative candidate deserves my vote more than the MP we got.
Not to mention the Federal Liberals have not mention the new Detroit River International Crossing in their platform...big concern in this area of the country, not to mention much needed.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
obviously their vote is soft and they have a big hump to go over to actually translate that into seats ... but it's pretty clear that after several weeks of campaigning - Layton has done the best job especially at the debates ... but what is more important is that the cons have lost ground in each poll ... what this means is that outreach campaigns to the disenchanted is working and hopefully, we can get the voter turnout to prevent this majority ...
just run tv ads with thunder sounds and it flickering inverted colours...
THIS... IS YOUR FUTURE WITH STEPHEN HARPER... dun dun dunnnnn
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/04/20 ... -minority/
Did he or didn't he get an education? If your handed a minority then work with the other parties...I think he owes this to his base as well, as far as I'm concerned it's time to compromise, let's get on with the business of getting the country going forward, and if Harper can't do it then step down and let someone else do the job.
Why not a coalition with Jack Layton as PM, he can add liberals to his cabinet and centrist tories (and I'm sure there are some, Layton and Iggy know who they are), this way we're not at the mercy of the bloc. This would also be a way to freeze Harper and his cronies in cabinet out.
Harper doesn't want to work with the other parties I suspect because he is calling it quits if he only gets a minority.
I'd rather have Layton more than Iggy, imo.
It all sucks anyways, because Harper doesn't want to get along and work within a minority parliament he is costing us 300 million, we should send him the bill.
Now that I wrote this I'll probably be banned from any of his rallies .
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
i would hope no party wins a majority ever again
start a love train! a love train!
Agree...and no Steven Harper!!!
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I like that, "for the good of everyone".
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Thanks in part to the cuts to the settlement programs.
Thanks Steve!
Sorry to hear that...Please educate me...what are the settlement programs? I think I know but am not sure.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
well he's just earned my vote..thanks for posting that, I was on the fence.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/04/20 ... ial-media/
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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this is the ideological agenda i've been talking about for ages with everyone ... the fact that this is just becoming a story is attributable to how sneaky and manipulative this gov't is ...
they've already stacked (formerly independent non-partisan) boards with their lackeys to shape all kinds of decision making through their ideology ... the attack on human rights has started long ago ...
this is why they don't take public questions and people have to be screened and why they don't all show up at debates and only some people are allowed to talk to the media ...
these ass-backward right wing nuts do not represent true canadian values ...
edit: further to my last point ... http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... le1592858/
I don't think he is going to get a majority, so I'm thinking he'll present a budget that will defeat the government and he'll resign.
I do however think that any other government can't include the bloc...so I'm hoping they find enough centrist tories to run a functioning government for 4 years.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/04/21 ... -on-may-3/
From reading this I'm not sure I'd want to be governor general after the election...
Some points I took out of the article, Harper does not have to rush parliament back...which he won't.
In order for the liberals to form the government they'll need a non compete agreement from the NDP and Bloc, so how much are they going to have to give to the bloc to get their support?
Or form a coalition...sounds like the best best bet...Liberal-NDP-Conservative (Centrist Conservatives).
It shall be interesting to see what happens...wouldn't surprise me if parliament reconvenes in September.
Also wouldn't surprise me if Harper got an agreement from 1 of the opposition parties...with Harper nothing surprises me. He'll do whatever it takes to stay in power.
Personally I like the coalition of Liberals-NDP-Centrist Tories...with Jack Layton leading it.
Who knows we may end up with Prime Minister Duceppe .
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
i'm not sure what the cuss is gonna happen may 3rd ... all i hope is that harper does not garner his majority however if i was a betting man ... i would assume the following would happen (if harper does not get his minority):
* he will return and run gov't status quo
* he will continue to try and govern manipulating rules
* he will launch an aggressive PR campaign against the other parties and feigning that they are not cooperating
* he will continue to stack independent boards to push through other agendas
* he will basically dissolve the freedom to information act simply by non-compliance
i don't suspect he is willing to relinquish power in any form and his backers will not let him resign ... truth be told - the party is at peak support because of his fascist approach ... if MP's were allowed to talk and everything wasn't micromanaged from the PMO - more canadians would see what this party is really about ...
i mean - it's still early ... but let's think about this for a second ...
the ndp has 37 seats with about 19% of the popular vote ... you have to figure that at least 5-10% of the popular vote left them for strategic reasons ... now, if this surge is actualized in quebec and they somehow manage 5 or 6 seats there ... that would be a huge psychological barrier to overcome amongst voters ... BC is known to vote in NDP provincial gov'ts so it's not a stretch to see that province go orange ... if disenchantment of the liberals continues - you will continue to see that shift ...
next thing you know - they could be up to 65-75 seats ... after that - anything can happen ...