Canadian Conservative Party Supporters

bytterman

lukin2006 wrote:

I didn't get to see the debate, from what I read it was a lot of 3 on 1, which was expected.

Best line of the night... “Why do you have the worst attendance record in the House of Commons of any Member of Parliament?” the NDP leader asked. “Most Canadians, if they don’t show up for work, they don’t get a promotion.”

That one gave me a chuckle, also when he asked "...what happened to the old Stephen Harper?" and the crack about loaning his cane to prop up the government. I managed to stay with it for the duration, but learned nothing except that these people really do some funky accounting, and would like to ask for that chunk of my life back. There was a fair bit of 3 against 1 but it was far better than in 2008, and I thought the format was sort of interesting. I kind of sensed that Ignatieff argues like a veteran professor: completely without listening to the other party (although he did pull back to the original question better than anyone else). I'm not saying that Harper is open-minded at all (because little could be further from the truth) but if Ignatieff is going to run government like faculty council we'll have an even more disconnected electorate, imo.

Good comments on corruption. I forget the quote but the gist is that absolute power corrupts absolutely; the Greens and NDP might have a very clean track record, but that's merely because they've never been in charge (as Ignatieff so gleefully pointed out last night). Not sure of a solution, unfortunately.

polaris_x

ShimmyMommy wrote:

i have been for the last couple of elections...least amount of corruption and they are thinking of the environment...I figure it balances it out somehow

i'm lucky tho ... i live in a riding that the conservative rep finishes last behind the greens ... if i was a swing riding ... i'd vote strategic ... :(

ShimmyMommy

polaris_x wrote:

ShimmyMommy wrote:

i have been for the last couple of elections...least amount of corruption and they are thinking of the environment...I figure it balances it out somehow

i'm lucky tho ... i live in a riding that the conservative rep finishes last behind the greens ... if i was a swing riding ... i'd vote strategic ... :(

I usually vote strategic...parts of SWO may not be in a swing riding, but I sure as hell don't want the really bad guys to get my vote!!

ShimmyMommy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhgYhcTl ... r_embedded

polaris_x

interesting stats ...

46% - percentage of votes missed by Conservative Leader Stephen Harper - 142 out of 311 - between November 2008 and December 2010, the most recent Parliament.

59% - percentage missed by Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff over the same period - 182 of 311 - the worst voting attendance of all MPs in the House.

3% - percentage of votes missed by Bloc Leader Gilles Duceppe - 10 of 311 - followed closely by NDP Leader Jack Layton, 11 of 311.

17 - The number of MPs who missed at least 25 per cent of the votes in the House.

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also ... i read that the ndp in some polls are polling second to the bloc in quebec?

haffajappa

http://www.shitharperdid.ca.nyud.net/

polaris_x

haffajappa wrote:

http://www.shitharperdid.ca.nyud.net/

Harper decorated the government lobby in parliament with photos of just himself, instead of the traditional portraits of former Prime Ministers.

is that true!?? ... i thought the letterhead change was bad - but this!?

ShimmyMommy

polaris_x wrote:

haffajappa wrote:

http://www.shitharperdid.ca.nyud.net/

Harper decorated the government lobby in parliament with photos of just himself, instead of the traditional portraits of former Prime Ministers.

is that true!?? ... i thought the letterhead change was bad - but this!?

:wtf: can you say dictator? :shock:

polaris_x

ShimmyMommy wrote:

:wtf: can you say dictator? :shock:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_%28epithet%29

In this sense, the word fascist is intended to mean "oppressive", "intolerant", "chauvinist", "genocidal", "dictatorial", "racist", or "aggressive"

oppressive: check
intolerant: check
chauvinist: check
genocidal: i hope not
dictatorial: check
racist: we may not want to say it but he is ... "you people"; "ethnic costumes"
aggressive: check

Drowned Out

haffajappa wrote:

http://www.shitharperdid.ca.nyud.net/

The video promoting this site is pretty much every second person's facebook status in my newsfeed right now...I swear, I don't know a single admitted con supporter. A couple of my friends are asking the conservatives on their friend list to show themselves - asking why they vote Con, and no one is replying...if more young people got involved in politics, our country would be an entirely different place.


Caught a comedian on Just for Laughs over the weekend who was crackin jokes about priorities, lack of involvement in the political process, and low voter turnout amongst the young....can't get them to the polls, but we can get a million signatures on a petition to not change facebook within a couple hours..

ShimmyMommy

polaris_x wrote:

ShimmyMommy wrote:

:wtf: can you say dictator? :shock:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_%28epithet%29

In this sense, the word fascist is intended to mean "oppressive", "intolerant", "chauvinist", "genocidal", "dictatorial", "racist", or "aggressive"

oppressive: check
intolerant: check
chauvinist: check
genocidal: i hope not
dictatorial: check
racist: we may not want to say it but he is ... "you people"; "ethnic costumes"
aggressive: check

well I guess 5 out of 7 ain't bad...oh wait, it is! :?

Dead Man Walking

The problem with the Canadian government right now is there are 3 men who think when an election is called, it's more important to "play politics" than to be productive for the people. Watching the 3 main party leaders take turns ganging up 2 on 1 against one another is incredibly tiresome to watch.

At the end of the day we're going to be right back where we started...Harper in control with a minority government and everyone in the other parties voting strategically for their own agenda and not what's best for the country...

I'll vote because I always vote, it's not inconvenient for me as our polling station is just a 10 minute walk but I can see how some people could be getting very annoyed with all these elections. I cant remember the last time we went a full year without those stupid signs stuck in the ground all around our neighborhood...

ShimmyMommy

Dead Man Walking wrote:

The problem with the Canadian government right now is there are 3 men who think when an election is called, it's more important to "play politics" than to be productive for the people. Watching the 3 main party leaders take turns ganging up 2 on 1 against one another is incredibly tiresome to watch.

At the end of the day we're going to be right back where we started...Harper in control with a minority government and everyone in the other parties voting strategically for their own agenda and not what's best for the country...

I'll vote because I always vote, it's not inconvenient for me as our polling station is just a 10 minute walk but I can see how some people could be getting very annoyed with all these elections. I cant remember the last time we went a full year without those stupid signs stuck in the ground all around our neighborhood...

+1 on your whole statement

lukin2006

The problem now is the hockey playoffs, the election will take a backseat to hockey, and there will most likely be a game every night so a lot more people are not going to follow the election. I suspect the polling numbers will pretty much stay the same. I do think if the opposition keeps hammering the tories over corruption it just might give Harper a majority. Sometimes I wonder if we've just seen so much corruption in politics that we expect it no matter who is in office so we just tune it out, and it appears people might be tuning it out.

ShimmyMommy

lukin2006 wrote:

The problem now is the hockey playoffs, the election will take a backseat to hockey, and there will most likely be a game every night so a lot more people are not going to follow the election. I suspect the polling numbers will pretty much stay the same. I do think if the opposition keeps hammering the tories over corruption it just might give Harper a majority. Sometimes I wonder if we've just seen so much corruption in politics that we expect it no matter who is in office so we just tune it out, and it appears people might be tuning it out.

maybe Harper should use prorogation for the playoffs too :roll:

lukin2006

Green Party candidate in B.C. resigns over 'rape' comment made on Facebook

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/green-party-ca ... 8-933.html

In fairness, we've heard plenty of negatives on the tories and liberals, now it's the greens turn...

ShimmyMommy

lukin2006 wrote:

Green Party candidate in B.C. resigns over 'rape' comment made on Facebook

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/green-party-ca ... 8-933.html

In fairness, we've heard plenty of negatives on the tories and liberals, now it's the greens turn...

I guess it's true then...politics is a fair game...

polaris_x

Dead Man Walking wrote:

The problem with the Canadian government right now is there are 3 men who think when an election is called, it's more important to "play politics" than to be productive for the people. Watching the 3 main party leaders take turns ganging up 2 on 1 against one another is incredibly tiresome to watch.

At the end of the day we're going to be right back where we started...Harper in control with a minority government and everyone in the other parties voting strategically for their own agenda and not what's best for the country...

I'll vote because I always vote, it's not inconvenient for me as our polling station is just a 10 minute walk but I can see how some people could be getting very annoyed with all these elections. I cant remember the last time we went a full year without those stupid signs stuck in the ground all around our neighborhood...

if harper was prepared to move to the centre and work with other parties - we wouldn't be in an election ... the bottom line is his ideology is so far removed from the other parties and rest of canada that in order to get it passed - he needs a majority ... hence this election ... i can guarantee you that a minority gov't with anyone but the conservatives at the helm - we wouldn't be going thru this mess ...

this is strictly a function of one right wing party vs. the rest of canada ...

polaris_x

lukin2006 wrote:

Green Party candidate in B.C. resigns over 'rape' comment made on Facebook

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/green-party-ca ... 8-933.html

In fairness, we've heard plenty of negatives on the tories and liberals, now it's the greens turn...

the difference is ... he resigned as opposed to saying an "aide" posted it without him knowing and the "aide" resigning ...

lukin2006

ShimmyMommy wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

Green Party candidate in B.C. resigns over 'rape' comment made on Facebook

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/green-party-ca ... 8-933.html

In fairness, we've heard plenty of negatives on the tories and liberals, now it's the greens turn...

I guess it's true then...politics is a fair game...

Just that a vote for any of the 4 national parties is a vote for corruption... , they all got corruption in them and not 1 has come out with a detailed plan as to how they will get rid of corruption in government, not 1.